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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Wow, I did not expect this much from a one-shot... I think Claudine and her experiences show how heteronormative is our society, and how gender is really one of those invisible borders in society. And I love the art style! |
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| I loved it ;___; But why couldn't he have end up together with Rosemarie? |
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| That was incredible. It handled a topic that many today can't understand. Well done. The ending was harsh, but that is reality unfortunately. |
| It would have been much better if he wasn't referred to as she right throughout. He's referred to as 'she' by many fans as well. I mean idk it made me very uncomfortable that he was being misgendered so much. |
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Clefabled said: It would have been much better if he wasn't referred to as she right throughout. He's referred to as 'she' by many fans as well. I mean idk it made me very uncomfortable that he was being misgendered so much. In context of the story I think it was to show how the majority of society at that time would see his situation, and how they didn't accept/understand it, which caused a lot of problems for him. In terms of the fans...I feel like this shouldn't have the shoujo-ai label? Since the main character identifies as male...Well actually there is a point in the beginning where Claudine's mother tells the psychiatrist(?) that "[Claudine] says that she is a girl now, but used to be a boy. And that she will return to being a boy sometime in the future." So Claudine might be genderfluid. Lovely story though, despite the melodrama. It's rare to see this topic handled sensitively in manga. I wished Claudine could have had a happy ending but life is cruel sometimes :( |
| I hate that he kept getting misgendered. I do wish that he could have had a happy ending though. Also...this was four chapters so I'm confused that the first comment says it's a one shot like it was one chapter? SleepyBear said: "[Claudine] says that she is a girl now, but used to be a boy. And that she will return to being a boy sometime in the future." So Claudine might be genderfluid. Actually, he's just male. When the mom brought this up, it was Claudine saying that he used to be a boy in a past life, but in this life was a girl but planned on returning to being a boy in the future. |
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| That was a good short read, but it felt like it skipped around too much. Too bad for Claudine he was born in the wrong body. |
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| Oh, wow. RiP Claudine! Such a tough a life he lived and such a tragic end. Oh yeah and...FUCK Sirene!! |
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| I just love this manga, I love when vintage manga feel very ahead of their time with societal issues. (Even if these issues have been around for a long time, it is awesome to see them taken head on.) |
| Ikeda did such a great job of endearing us to Claudine over such a short period of time; you could really feel his pain when he was blatantly called "a girl," and of course dat ending. It really is a shame that he couldn't end up with Rosemarie, since she was the only one that seemed to actually respect his identity. |
| I didn't expected this to be this sad... It really was a very moving manga and the perfect reflection of society's cruelty. Poor Claudine... It's nice to see this theme being treated in a serious way in japanese media. It's still not as common as it should. |
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| Claudine truly suffered throughout his life. Every love Claudine had fell apart in front of his very eyes. Rosemarie was the only person who understood Claudine, but Claudine didn't reciprocate her feelings, unfortunately. The ending made me very sad. Reading this gave me a better understanding of what it must be like to be transgender. Life can be so incredibly difficult for those whose being isn't fully accepted or understood by society. |
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| Claudine Deserved better ): he truly deserved better. Rereading this makes me bawl my eyes out. Also the one thing that I didn’t like is people misgender him too much. |
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