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Apr 15, 2013 10:33 AM
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Mm, the OP song is okay I guess.

Watching Arata and Kotoha together was kinda funny. Oh kinda sad they got captured.

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Well at least the guy still has some guts to speak out.
Apr 15, 2013 11:27 AM
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Does Kotoha honestly think it's the Arata she knows? I'm a little confused if she's in denial of Hinohara or she truly believes its Arata but thinks something is wrong with him..
Apr 15, 2013 12:17 PM
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Eh. On the verge of dropping. Not fond of the character designs or the main character.
Apr 15, 2013 12:28 PM
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Kotoha's necklace was the link to Arata. Hinohara talks to Arata and finds out he didn't kill the princess. Great bond between them : ) Now Hinohara is put on trial. Go Hinohara!!!! You tell'em. Damn Kannagi > : 0 Kotaha sneeks onboard to bring Hayagami and they meet princess. : 0 She tells him that he is the new Shinsho.
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I like the opening, one of the better themes I've heard this season.

Hybridbloodszak said:
Does Kotoha honestly think it's the Arata she knows? I'm a little confused if she's in denial of Hinohara or she truly believes its Arata but thinks something is wrong with him..

Same here. Really confusing.
Apr 15, 2013 1:21 PM
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For all the people around both Aratas look like their counterpart. Only we sere them as they are.
Apr 15, 2013 1:26 PM
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This episode was quite faithful to the manga but they're certainly rushing things. I'm looking forward to the Gatoya part though.
Apr 15, 2013 1:54 PM
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Yeah, the masses are always sheep so gullible to swallow any bs fed to them. I mean how can that guy try to kill the princess with 12 of you around and escape.
Poor Arata getting such a mess, but you better man up now or freaking die!
I wish they show a little bit about the life of the other one, I mean even though it is peaceful he has to fit in.
Apr 15, 2013 3:12 PM
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The MC bitches too much.....another useless retard mc....
Apr 15, 2013 3:43 PM

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It was nice episode, but I'm kinda starting to like the Arata who is in present time more, then the one who is in past, but we'll see where will this go.
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Nachtwandler_21 said:
For all the people around both Aratas look like their counterpart. Only we sere them as they are.

If only we see them as they are then why did the people in town see long haired Arata "naked" and if Hinohara is supposed to look like Arata, wouldn't it appear to Kotoha that he wasn't wearing a shirt? (since she had to unbutton his shirt to check for the necklace)
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morshuwarrior said:
Hybridbloodszak said:
Does Kotoha honestly think it's the Arata she knows? I'm a little confused if she's in denial of Hinohara or she truly believes its Arata but thinks something is wrong with him..

Same here. Really confusing.


It's supposed to be the latter. The anime's script isn't conveying that well enough, I guess. Either that, or the extra dialogue they added in to the beach scene made it confusing. Hinohara's second attempt at convincing Kotoha that he's not the Arata she thinks he is, as well as her playing along with it in a way that suggests disbelief, was not in the original dialogue.

AlexTheRiot said:
Nachtwandler_21 said:
For all the people around both Aratas look like their counterpart. Only we sere them as they are.

If only we see them as they are then why did the people in town see long haired Arata "naked" and if Hinohara is supposed to look like Arata, wouldn't it appear to Kotoha that he wasn't wearing a shirt? (since she had to unbutton his shirt to check for the necklace)


Their bodies, but not their clothes are affected. Early on in the original manga, people would make comments about the strange clothes that Hinohara was wearing.

As for the episode itself, pretty good. Didn't expect to see certain people yet, though... I suppose they are planning on restructuring the plot a little so it could fit in one cour that stands well enough on its own...

As for Hinohara... well, I think I'll have to retract my earlier statement that the cutting scenes was to the shows benefit. Cutting out the humor certainly was, but to not show the extent of the bullying and ostracization that the original introduction provided obscures his justification for his severe trust issues. Without it, Hinohara's classical antiheroic tendencies and complaints go from mildly annoying but understandable to simply unbearable. I really hope they get back into it in the upcoming arc, because that's a good place, if any, for the anime to do so.
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I like the premise and they've done a good job here. The OP was okay, it could have been better.

I like Arata and Arata Hinohara, but I think the girl's a bit of a ditz. How long is it going to take her to realize that that Arata isn't the original one?

The sham trial was interesting but I do like the fact that the princess has named Arata as her new warrior and has thus unofficially disowned the other 12. I am also curious about the guy who bullies Arata and what his story is and why he's in the op and ed so much. Now that Arata has been exiled, I wonder how they're going to escape and somehow bring down the 12 evil bishies and save the princess? (That REALLY sounded like some sort of 80s fairy tale...)

So what adventures will there be for Arata and company? I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Yeah, the masses are always sheep so gullible to swallow any bs fed to them. I mean how can that guy try to kill the princess with 12 of you around and escape.
Poor Arata getting such a mess, but you better man up now or freaking die!
I wish they show a little bit about the life of the other one, I mean even though it is peaceful he has to fit in.


Actually, yes, someone should bring that up!
How the heck could Arata harm the princess since he was in a confining awkward dress surrounded by the country's elite warriors? Are you telling me not ONE of you could protect her against a cross-dressing teenager?!

Even the shoddiest lawyer would call bullcrap on that.
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It was OK. There seems a high bar for him to approach. So is for the anime. Not easy to surpass similar vibe anime such as Tweleve Kingdoms and Inuyasha.
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Irenesharda said:
MaxCrazy7 said:
Yeah, the masses are always sheep so gullible to swallow any bs fed to them. I mean how can that guy try to kill the princess with 12 of you around and escape.
Poor Arata getting such a mess, but you better man up now or freaking die!
I wish they show a little bit about the life of the other one, I mean even though it is peaceful he has to fit in.


Actually, yes, someone should bring that up!
How the heck could Arata harm the princess since he was in a confining awkward dress surrounded by the country's elite warriors? Are you telling me not ONE of you could protect her against a cross-dressing teenager?!

Even the shoddiest lawyer would call bullcrap on that.

I know right...I guess everyone trusts the 12 warriors very much since they are supposed to be very close to the princess. The people are just too biased to see the truth.

I never really got into the manga, but hopefully the anime will make me want to pick up the manga again.
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Irenesharda said:
I like the premise and they've done a good job here. The OP was okay, it could have been better.

I like Arata and Arata Hinohara, but I think the girl's a bit of a ditz. How long is it going to take her to realize that that Arata isn't the original one?

The sham trial was interesting but I do like the fact that the princess has named Arata as her new warrior and has thus unofficially disowned the other 12. I am also curious about the guy who bullies Arata and what his story is and why he's in the op and ed so much. Now that Arata has been exiled, I wonder how they're going to escape and somehow bring down the 12 evil bishies and save the princess? (That REALLY sounded like some sort of 80s fairy tale...)

So what adventures will there be for Arata and company? I guess we'll just have to wait and see.


Well it's pretty well explained in the show why this situation is plausible for her to believe that its the Arata she knows. The forest is known to devour people's memories, that and the fact that Arata still looks like the very same Arata she knows, its' not rocket science to understand why she still believes its the same Arata.
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Hybridbloodszak said:
Does Kotoha honestly think it's the Arata she knows? I'm a little confused if she's in denial of Hinohara or she truly believes its Arata but thinks something is wrong with him..


Yeah I diddnt understand either, also I don't like the fact that Arata(short hair) is taking over the other guys life and is apparently more worthy than the better one. Edit- it seems someone answered this above, I diddnt see it before. I guess the anime couldn't fit all the content from the novel. Still this should have been made clear.

Yeah sorry but the long haired one is way better. He dosnt have trust issues and he has a brighter personality. Then this new guy comes and takes his "girl" who might think he's the real one. And if they aren't going to show us the other Arata's situation in the normal world why bother having him it could have just been like "hey this guy came out of nowhere and he's the chosen one."

They might have a reason but so far I'm not seeing it. That said I don't dislike it just don't agree with some of the events.

3/5

And why is short hair Arata shunned, did I miss something. It seems like they were hinting something with the track team and that other kid knowing him. Also someone else asked this but why is the kid from the track team in so much of the ed.
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OP, as seen on youtube, was good.

So everyone around two Aratas can only see their own Arata. Wow, the pendant can let each Arata see each other.

Interesting to see what Hime's going to tell Arata.
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Bakazuki said:
morshuwarrior said:
Hybridbloodszak said:
Does Kotoha honestly think it's the Arata she knows? I'm a little confused if she's in denial of Hinohara or she truly believes its Arata but thinks something is wrong with him..

Same here. Really confusing.


It's supposed to be the latter. The anime's script isn't conveying that well enough, I guess. Either that, or the extra dialogue they added in to the beach scene made it confusing. Hinohara's second attempt at convincing Kotoha that he's not the Arata she thinks he is, as well as her playing along with it in a way that suggests disbelief, was not in the original dialogue.

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Nachtwandler_21 said:
For all the people around both Aratas look like their counterpart. Only we sere them as they are.

If only we see them as they are then why did the people in town see long haired Arata "naked" and if Hinohara is supposed to look like Arata, wouldn't it appear to Kotoha that he wasn't wearing a shirt? (since she had to unbutton his shirt to check for the necklace)


Their bodies, but not their clothes are affected. Early on in the original manga, people would make comments about the strange clothes that Hinohara was wearing.

As for the episode itself, pretty good. Didn't expect to see certain people yet, though... I suppose they are planning on restructuring the plot a little so it could fit in one cour that stands well enough on its own...

As for Hinohara... well, I think I'll have to retract my earlier statement that the cutting scenes was to the shows benefit. Cutting out the humor certainly was, but to not show the extent of the bullying and ostracization that the original introduction provided obscures his justification for his severe trust issues. Without it, Hinohara's classical antiheroic tendencies and complaints go from mildly annoying but understandable to simply unbearable. I really hope they get back into it in the upcoming arc, because that's a good place, if any, for the anime to do so.


But the crowd in Hinohara's world clearly thought that he (Arata) was an idol filming something. The indication we've got is that Hinohara is more an average highschooler in looks and body tone than the outdoorsy, buff, long-haired, idol-look-alike Arata. I suspect the explanation has to be that their clothes and hairstyles made the transition, but the base genetics, bone, and facial structure are identical so everyone in their new worlds just assumes that they've got a new costume/wardrobe and a new hairstyle.
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Yeah sorry but the long haired one is way better. He dosnt have trust issues and he has a brighter personality. Then this new guy comes and takes his "girl" who might think he's the real one. And if they aren't going to show us the other Arata's situation in the normal world why bother having him it could have just been like "hey this guy came out of nowhere and he's the chosen one."

They might have a reason but so far I'm not seeing it. That said I don't dislike it just don't agree with some of the events.

3/5

And why is short hair Arata shunned, did I miss something. It seems like they were hinting something with the track team and that other kid knowing him. Also someone else asked this but why is the kid from the track team in so much of the ed.


The other Arata is involved with the plot, but honestly, I don't see the events pertaining to him happening in this adaptation if this anime is just going to remain one cour. That is, unless they rearrange events and character introductions like they did with a few characters.

The reason why Hinohara's ostracized was originally established in his introductory chapter in the manga, but was cut because they presumably wanted to end the first episode with Arata's Hayagami awakening. Since I have low expectations of this anime touching on it, I'll explain briefly (though I still spoiler tag it, despite technically being past this point):



As for why Kadowaki is featured prominently in the Ending sequence... you technically aren't supposed to know at this point. However, it should be pretty easy to figure out...

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So I like Arata better but I am more interested in Hinohara's side of things. xD; Ah well, I suppose that means at least both paths are interesting, looking forward to seeing more of Kannagi. One of my favorites, although I am just reading the manga as it comes out in the states so I'm quite a bit behind.
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rodac said:
But the crowd in Hinohara's world clearly thought that he (Arata) was an idol filming something. The indication we've got is that Hinohara is more an average highschooler in looks and body tone than the outdoorsy, buff, long-haired, idol-look-alike Arata. I suspect the explanation has to be that their clothes and hairstyles made the transition, but the base genetics, bone, and facial structure are identical so everyone in their new worlds just assumes that they've got a new costume/wardrobe and a new hairstyle.


Hinohara is athletic, so his build can't be that average.

But anyway, that does sound interesting, and I certainly would've been impressed if Yuu Watase had thought that far in the original. However, the manga makes it pretty clear that their hairstyles are affected by the... let's call it an illusion... of the forest in a manga chapter that's covered by this episode.

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/38291/arata-kangatari_v1_ch5_by_project-kurai-ryu/6
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Bakazuki said:
Fallenkingzero said:

Yeah sorry but the long haired one is way better. He dosnt have trust issues and he has a brighter personality. Then this new guy comes and takes his "girl" who might think he's the real one. And if they aren't going to show us the other Arata's situation in the normal world why bother having him it could have just been like "hey this guy came out of nowhere and he's the chosen one."

They might have a reason but so far I'm not seeing it. That said I don't dislike it just don't agree with some of the events.

3/5

And why is short hair Arata shunned, did I miss something. It seems like they were hinting something with the track team and that other kid knowing him. Also someone else asked this but why is the kid from the track team in so much of the ed.


The other Arata is involved with the plot, but honestly, I don't see the events pertaining to him happening in this adaptation if this anime is just going to remain one cour. That is, unless they rearrange events and character introductions like they did with a few characters.

The reason why Hinohara's ostracized was originally established in his introductory chapter in the manga, but was cut because they presumably wanted to end the first episode with Arata's Hayagami awakening. Since I have low expectations of this anime touching on it, I'll explain briefly (though I still spoiler tag it, despite technically being past this point):



As for why Kadowaki is featured prominently in the Ending sequence... you technically aren't supposed to know at this point. However, it should be pretty easy to figure out...



It's still pretty confusing. Are you telling me that:



And Kadowaki:



UGHHH! This story gives you more questions than answers!
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Lol every 1 in this anime needs to get their eyes checked, both aratas look NOTHING alike LMAO... 1 has short hair 1 has long hair, both way different color hair lol... I only watched this cause of Fushigi Yuugi but if it doesnt get better soon I will drop it.
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this may not be the the most expected anime!that's why there are no expectations.
this anime is really good!and relaxing!unlike those weird anime this season i think i will prefer this!
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Hybridbloodszak said:
Does Kotoha honestly think it's the Arata she knows? I'm a little confused if she's in denial of Hinohara or she truly believes its Arata but thinks something is wrong with him..

Because she's a idiot. Even though she has been with Arata her whole life, she only realised the truth in chap 41..


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It's still pretty confusing. Are you telling me that:



WARNING: To answer this question, there would be too much of a spoilers and long. Look at your own risk..



Irenesharda said:

And Kadowaki:



UGHHH! This story gives you more questions than answers!


It should be explained in the later episodes, but if you want to know now:
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Eh. Still rather an introduction than "shit gets real". Still not much of an intro

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The manga has like 205 chapters published in Japan but still hasn't finished (it's published weekly in the same magazine as Magi). So it's not strange that the start is a bit slow, although I'm not sure how the anime is going to fit the plot in only 13 episodes.
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So who will win Kotoha's heart? Arata or Arata?
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The manga has like 205 chapters published in Japan but still hasn't finished (it's published weekly in the same magazine as Magi). So it's not strange that the start is a bit slow, although I'm not sure how the anime is going to fit the plot in only 13 episodes.

It's 204...
13 episodes? Where did you got this from? Oh man, if it's true than it's certainly sucks. I guess I won't be able to see Kuguru's arc, which is at like chap 75,76. It's actually one of my favorite arc.
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good episode, mainly because the pacing got better
Looking forward to the interesting story and how the characters will uncover their identities
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hokaru said:
flamingo-chan said:
The manga has like 205 chapters published in Japan but still hasn't finished (it's published weekly in the same magazine as Magi). So it's not strange that the start is a bit slow, although I'm not sure how the anime is going to fit the plot in only 13 episodes.

It's 204...
13 episodes? Where did you got this from? Oh man, if it's true than it's certainly sucks. I guess I won't be able to see Kuguru's arc, which is at like chap 75,76. It's actually one of my favorite arc.

My bad, a typo. Yes, it's 204.

The stores which sell the DVDs list 6 volumes which means 12-13 episodes. Even if it has more episodes I don't think we'll see Kugura's arc or Yataka's one. Mikusa probably won't even appear since there hasn't been a seiyuu announcement nor design.
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The MC bitches too much.....another useless retard mc....


agreed. he needs to man the fuck up or i'm out.
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It's still pretty confusing. Are you telling me that:



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Don't know why but somehow I have NTR in mind when I watched this episode...
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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Don't know why but somehow I have NTR in mind when I watched this episode...
Haha I felt the same, I think in my case it was when he was in the trial, not sure why.
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flamingo-chan said:

My bad, a typo. Yes, it's 204.

The stores which sell the DVDs list 6 volumes which means 12-13 episodes. Even if it has more episodes I don't think we'll see Kugura's arc or Yataka's one. Mikusa probably won't even appear since there hasn't been a seiyuu announcement nor design.

I hope there'll be more episodes.. ahh Mikusa. And it's also weird that they put Suguru, Nao, Arata's mother character deisgn on the site but didn't put Hiruko's.. Hiruko's screen time has much more than theirs altogether..
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Second better than the first even though I expected already from the beginning of the series more involvement. I especially like the characters a little less drawings and animations. Agreeable solutions expressed during the vision of stakes!
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Meh... still not really into this. .. but the preview looks decent!
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Ohh, lol @ the other Arata...
Hinohara and Kotoha looks cute together. That Kannagi... -_-
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I am liking the premise... although the main characters are annoying. Hopefully Hinohara will man up soon enough. I wanna see the Kamui sword in its mint condition when he use its powers.
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This show is quite boring and has a lot of contradictions; if it doesn't improve next episode, i'll drop it.
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This show is quite boring and has a lot of contradictions; if it doesn't improve next episode, i'll drop it.
I would agree that it is not particularly engaging, but I am not sure how there are a lot of contradictions though.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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Maaaan, I had high expectations that this might be Watase's best anime adaptation, but again the poor woman got the short end of the stick. Her mangas always get butchered...

Really, the only good thing about this anime is the soundtrack. The manga is infinitely superior in every other aspect.
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Hmm, I just started to read the manga and I can automatically see where the two are divided. However, I think I actually prefer the anime so far. They have skipped a lot of antics and backstory, but I think it helps with the pacing of the much shorter show.

And it's just my preference but I often end up liking Watase's anime adaptations more than I do her mangas (at least with the really long running ones).

I enjoyed Fushigi Yugi, Ceres, and I'm enjoying Arata for what it is. I like Watase's shorter running manga series such as Alice 19th and Absolute Boyfriend, but loooong ones like Fushigi Yugi just seem to drag along (even the anime had a bit of that).
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