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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ----------------------------------------  Dat Sibyl system.. Episode was alright. Nice to see Yuki and Kagari again somewhat in some of the scenes. I just hope Akane can put her words into action soon. |
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eminagnam said: Wow shocking fact about Sibyl system! It appoints unbeatable criminals to conduct it whilst it removes innocent shepherds? Very paradoxical yet reasonable in a sense. It was a thought-provoking episode. The script writer did a good job. Well done. The art of a breadbasket was impressive and realistic. How is it shocking? LOL We, the viewers, already knew this since like ep 17 or so. It only seems 'shocking' b/c Akane is finding out the reality of Sybil. Although I was kinda sitll pissed that Akane would even still somewhat 'agree' w/ Sybil (though I can understand her position and was glad to see such emotions from her); I like how she did a bit of thinking like Kogami to work the situation in her favor. I think it was so pimp how she 'bargined' Kogami's freedom from execution like that. Geez, this ep went by too damn FAST! Dammit, another week of waiting.....u_u |
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| Akane I give you props for sticking for what you think is right and having your determination but that still doesn't change the fact that you're wrong : ) What a great episode into looking at the machinations of Akane's mind and her ideology. Is the price of admission for the kind of society Japan has worth free will? The main dilemma that has been at the center of this show since we were introduced to Sibyl. I'm conflicted with Akane on whether I find her sympathetic or not currently. Unlike us viewers and Masaoka, Akane was born into Sibyl life and didn't have to go through the transition; as such her point of view is starkly different than the rest of the group. Also in Sibyl's way of life as exemplified in Kagari's flashback she's one of the few people who has the freedom to live as she chooses. An elite; it's hard for her to see the other side of the coin. But for me where she's walking on thin wire is that she's willing to keep Sibyl active all for the sake of one person, Kogami. Is she not being hypocritical of her hatred towards Sibyl? She's willing to compromise her morals to have Kogami live and Sibyl intact. Akane is justifying Kogami's life against people's ability to make choices while Sibyl justifies absorbing a couple minds to keep society at "peace" That leads into a whole other topic of what "peace" is which I do not want to get into detail. In a very basic nutshell, if Japan's society in PP was able to achieve the kind of society they have without Sibyl I would consider that peace. All in all I'm very excited to see how these last two episodes play out. |
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| Akane is finally showing some darker side. I loved that inner flashback thingie she had, thought I think it took a little more time than it should have had. 'Twas a little freaky seeing her acting all professional at the crime scene, especially seeing how Gino was dumbstruck at her XD. Anyone else thinks Sibyl system won't live up to its end of the bargain? |
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shinezu said: Anyone else thinks Sibyl system won't live up to its end of the bargain? This and I can't wait for it to happen 3/5 |
| New Ep was awesome as always *W* Hmph and we have to wait whole week TT___TT Akane and Kougami are made for each other, they are both clever, they understand each other and think the same way. >< I liked how she spoke in the car pointing that dominator at her chest. For te second time I thought she was cool (first was when she shot Kougami because Ginozas Dominator "broke") |
| Yeah no way Sibyl keeps its word and there is no way for Akane to counter it...or is there. Akane is going to be the one to determine the fate of Sibyl, and the country. |
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Hybridbloodszak said: Akane I give you props for sticking for what you think is right and having your determination but that still doesn't change the fact that you're wrong : ) What a great episode into looking at the machinations of Akane's mind and her ideology. Is the price of admission for the kind of society Japan has worth free will? The main dilemma that has been at the center of this show since we were introduced to Sibyl. I'm conflicted with Akane on whether I find her sympathetic or not currently. Unlike us viewers and Masaoka, Akane was born into Sibyl life and didn't have to go through the transition; as such her point of view is starkly different than the rest of the group. Also in Sibyl's way of life as exemplified in Kagari's flashback she's one of the few people who has the freedom to live as she chooses. An elite; it's hard for her to see the other side of the coin. But for me where she's walking on thin wire is that she's willing to keep Sibyl active all for the sake of one person, Kogami. Is she not being hypocritical of her hatred towards Sibyl? She's willing to compromise her morals to have Kogami live and Sibyl intact. Akane is justifying Kogami's life against people's ability to make choices while Sibyl justifies absorbing a couple minds to keep society at "peace" Me too, I sometimes dislike Akane and her ideals (or actually, most of the time) so I haven't liked her much throughout the whole series, even if I do respect her for becoming an investigator and having such ideals about keeping peace. I've come to like her more though in this episode, seems like she's able to even stand up for her beliefs against the Sibyl System, to the point that she would point the dominator at herself. She's also really grown as an investigator, as Ginoza sees Shinya in her. I also wonder about her decision to negotiate with the Sibyl System regarding keeping Shinya alive. In a way like you said, Akane is putting a higher value on Shinya's life than everyone's free will. I don't want him to die either, but honestly, the Sibyl System could kill him off anyways whenever they want. I don't think it's really possible to negotiate with them, and I sure as hell won't believe in their promise. |
| This episode was amazing. Akane was great, I'm glad she's sticking to her guns. I seriously doubt Makishima's going to live after this finishes though. NOO. SHUUSEI REALLY IS DEAD. I didn't want to believe it but. Fuck you Urobuchi sobsobsob The flashbacks killed me. Tears everywhere. 5/5, Thursdays were always my favourite day of the week. |
| Better than the last episode. Akane developed. This was the highlight of the episode definitely. Other highlights are Ginoza seeing Kougami in Akane, Shogo in the fields (i imagined him smiling and jumping like a little kid there xD), then Kougami after him... so close... Mother of god o.O... ;_; 5/5 |
| Next ep = EPIC |
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| I loved the way Akane's inner conflict was visualized. It presented the dillema Akane is faced with very clearly and comprehensible. On the one side the Sibyl System provides peace and harmony (which is supposedly uncommon in the rest of the world at that time) and provides the citizens a carefree life by thinking and making decisions for them, something most people seem to accept, willingly even so. Happy "sheeps" (as Makishima would call them) they may are but they're still happy nonetheless. On the other side there is the true form of the Sibyl System, where asymptomatic dangerous criminals are not punished but rather elevated to be the leaders of the country, something that rubs Akane and with no doubt the majority of the audience the wrong way to say the least. Then there are also people like Kagari who draw the short strow and end up at the bottom of society without having done anything wrong, even though downsides can be applied to any systems if looking at them closely enough. It's interesting to see that the Sybil System is striving for new ideas and concepts through the inclusion of individuals who are not bound by fixed views on morals and ethics in order to eliminate its flaws, questioning the definition of good and evil as a result. The final battle is approaching and the technological farming facility looks like the perfect place for an epic showdown. Of course the problem could have been avoided by using different crops for food supply, but seeing how already monocultures are implemented on a grand scale today, I suppose the scenario presented here isn't that farfetched. |
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Akane I give you props for sticking for what you think is right and having your determination but that still doesn't change the fact that you're wrong : ) I honestly don't see in what she is wrong: she is not accepting Sybil and, unless Sybil manages to get rid of her, she has potential to be as destructive to the system as Makishima... the only difference being that she wouldn't do it by spilling blood. But for me where she's walking on thin wire is that she's willing to keep Sibyl active all for the sake of one person, Kogami. Is she not being hypocritical of her hatred towards Sibyl? She's willing to compromise her morals to have Kogami live and Sibyl intact. Akane is justifying Kogami's life against people's ability to make choices while Sibyl justifies absorbing a couple minds to keep society at "peace" She is keeping Sybil active to protect the people from suffering, not to save Kogami. Should Sybill just go off, the current society would go to hell quite quickly (the "helmet incident" would end up looking like a child's play), something she doesn't want to happen as she values human life and happiness. She values both the free will and happiness (as described in her visualized inner conflicts) and she won't compromise happiness for free will. She can fight the system later, once she comes up with something. For now, she wants to save lives from a madman who justifies his sick desires with philosophy. Killed or given to Sybill, Makishima is finished and the closest threat is negated. |
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| Whether you dislike her or not you can't deny Akane's growth as a character. AuronPond said: ...as much as I am confused about the relationship between Kogami and Akane. The climax of the relationship itself will be the psychological decision that Akane will choose for the rest of her life. I agree. -There is a very likely chance that the Sibyl System won't let Kougami go as they said. (If he does make it out alive that is.) -Kougami is trying to kill Shougo, Akane has agreed that she will try to bring him back alive. I can't begin to wrap my head around on the effect things like these will have on Akane. Feeling very tense for these last 2 episodes. Neonzel said: That smile... In any other universe this would be a cute boyish smile. In this universe it'll gouge your eyes out and use them for a retina scan. |
| Nice promise made there. Honestly I think it will be kept, we saw Akane thinking like Kogami; so if she can do that, she can probably plan ahead like him as well (leave an audio record or something to cause trouble to sibyl system) Great episode, very compelling 5/5 for me. But really, 2 episodes left D; would be awesome to get a equally if not better second season. |
| At this point, I do wonder how it would feel for me if I had watched Madoka Magica in a weekly basis (I marathoned it). Because right now, Urobochi and IG are making me suffer the pain of having to wait an entire week for the next PP episode. OH GOSH I NEED MORE. Anyway, I like the idea that Akane can't deny completely the system, but she seems at the point where she believes some changes need to be done from the inside. That makes me remember of that moment in episode 09 where she thought the rights of latent criminals would improve with time. parfaited said: Neonzel said: That smile... In any other universe this would be a cute boyish smile. In this universe it'll gouge your eyes out and use them for a retina scan. Moe as hell. |
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| Damn, intense as usual. I'm just waiting for the final conflict between all of them. |
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Mary_Vanucchi said: MoekishimaAt this point, I do wonder how it would feel for me if I had watched Madoka Magica in a weekly basis (I marathoned it). Because right now, Urobochi and IG are making me suffer the pain of having to wait an entire week for the next PP episode. OH GOSH I NEED MORE. Anyway, I like the idea that Akane can't deny completely the system, but she seems at the point where she believes some changes need to be done from the inside. That makes me remember of that moment in episode 09 where she thought the rights of latent criminals would improve with time. parfaited said: Neonzel said: That smile... In any other universe this would be a cute boyish smile. In this universe it'll gouge your eyes out and use them for a retina scan. Moe as hell. |
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| damn akane just grew bigger balls than ginoza. fuckkk that in car scene. deducing that murder like a boss too. cant wait to see this climax |
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| The brains of criminals = the system?? Wow. She agreed to cooperate in return to save that guy's life. Now she's investigating like that guy. Final battle @ a lab? |
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| Wonder how they're gonna wrap this up in 2 episodes... |
SleepyBear said: Wonder how they're gonna wrap this up in 2 episodes... Cliffhanger ending anyone? Makashima spontaneously disapears along with Kogami? |
| Sybil System exploited the ideals of Akane right there but good thing Akane is holding her ground and is evolving to be a reliable hero |
| Akane just turn into a real detective. I was LOLing at this scene  |
Kaiser-chanMar 7, 2013 5:26 PM
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| Really enjoyed this episode, the artwork in some places was beautiful, and the soundtrack was brilliant! Well we now know everything about the Sybil System (unless there's even more that the Sybil System didn't tell Akane - unlikely though), and I'm thinking what others have said, that it might not live up to it's side of the bargain. Gutted that there's only two more episodes left, but also excited to see how it ends. Guess it's time for another week's wait...*sigh* |
KaiserNazrin said: Akane just turn into a real detective. I was LOLing at this scene Sure reminded me of Shougo Okita's smile (Gintama) XD Anyway that aside, YAAY Akane.. <3 It took 20 episodes for her to reach the climax of her character growth though. Still <3 :3 How can this only be a one season anime ;o; ? There HAS to be a season 2 or a movie somehow :( ;o; |
| two more episodes. i really wonder how will they deal with makishima and fix up the sibyl system in merely 46mins. unless they bring in makishima, but sibyl will still live and all our main characters die? it would be a win-win situation like that once sibyl gets a hold on maki. |
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| Akane serious mode :D That promise... not going to happen. I guess. 2 more eps... I'm expecting some kind of plot twist next ep. Just because Urobuchi :D |
| damn.. everybody looks badass this episode.. akane got her guts.. makishima got his plan works.. kougami got his lead.. woooooooot!!! |
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| Why are some people surprised over the fact the Sibyl System is actually run and controlled by the minds of former "criminals" or perhaps outlaws is a better word? I mean they explained that in the episode where they revealed the true nature of the System right? :O I'm very curious how they'll end the anime, I somehow end up hoping that Shougo will succeed in at least corrupting the food system, it will take time and a few other factors but in the end that action will be a big blow for the System, if not making it useless on the long run. On the other hand I hope he doesn't because they'll never show the world (or rather Japan) after the collapse of the Sibyl System and the curiosity would be too much for me to handle. I also hope Kagami will be able to kill Shougo and I'm praying Akane won't do anything stupid (again) like letting Shougo escape last minute because she doesn't want to kill him, for he should be judged correctly according to the law, but also won't let Kagami kill him because she doesn't want him to become a murderer... Anyway I'm really looking forward to the final 2 episodes :) |
| Whoa. I love the fact that Akane is in a dilemma. A world with the Sibyl System or not, either decision will lead to chaos. And, complete character development for her. She is utilizing Kogami's logic and mindset... which is better when she was in the first episode. |
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