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| Finally, something amazing. No need to write more than that. Excellent Episode. Best episode so far. |
| Unbelievable episode, been a while since I've been that sucked into a scene like I was that last 5 minutes. Be interesting to see how Akane kicks on from here Because that was a real punch in the gut. Didn't think he was actually gonna do it for a second.. |
| Rewatching Psycho Pass its all its glory and just finished this ep. Still one of my fave series. On the first watch the suspense was through the roof and I was freaking out a lot lol. Rewatching it brings out many nuances and God forbid, ALL THE FORESHADOWING. This ep really kicked up the stakes and lots of character development. I spent a lot of time hating on Kougami and his ~edginess~ on first watch, but the way he took care of useless civilian girl Yuki made me envious and changed my mind about him. Akane also took her first real step to being an excellent detective (the old-timey, nearly extinct type). What Akane did was very well thought-out by the writers despite many commenters hating on her. Akane believed from the bottom of her heart in the efficiency of the Sybil System, how many people (other from wildcard Kou) can realistically throw that kind of brainwashing away and kill someone with her own hands? Imo, on top of not being trained with gunpowder weapons, Akane herself was never serious about shooting Makishima as she couldn't let go of her Dominator and all that it meant to her and her society. And unlike for most citizens, it's not a weakness for Akane, because she thought it through unlike 'livestock' and chose to continue believing in her job. If she had just up and killed Makishima, that would be contrary to her personality. The scene clearly defined the person that Akane was, unwilling to bow down to those she does not agree with despite whatever strong persuasion. The whole show is basically a test of her character. She was also able to accept and live with her mistakes with a kind of maturity that is lacking in many of the other characters (that I also love don't get me wrong). But damn don't I wish Kougami could change a little more for Akane's sake instead of being so obsessed with Makishima. Wonderfully complex and realistic characters. |
littlefujiApr 20, 2016 7:21 AM
 "Everyone wants to carve their scars into someone else; everyone wants to connect with someone else." -- Sonozaki Noriko, Kiznaiver |
| While watching this episode, I was shouting, JUST KILL THE FUCKING BASTARD, JUST KILL HIM. But nooooo, she let Yuki die. I can not even feel bad for her. Ah this was so frustrating, I onlynfeel bad for Yuki, to die like that. |
BloodReaperArmy said: Lol akane, you may not have used a gun before... BUT WHY THE FUCK DID YOU NOT USE BOTH HAND YOU FMSHIT! Jfc ffs! I'm surprised she didn't hit her friend! Holding a goddamn gun like that! Btw I understand that what she did was entirely in character and what not, as believing in the system is what she would do, I'm just pissed that she didn't hold the damn gun with two hands. That is all. She didn't want to really kill her. She shot with the gun, but she knew that it wouldn't hit. She just didn't want to let go of the Dominator |
| Wow. Damn, Makishima Shogo. That was some torture and test you gave to Akane. Can't believe he actually really did it in the end. And yet his psycho pass reading just got lower and lower. I wonder why? Perhaps it's his indifference to all those killings and general lack of emotions? Like he is more of the rational type not emotional and the psycho pass can't really access that beyond the emotional level? So far all f the ones with high psycho pass readings displayed a lot of emotions? Perhaps Makishima's nonchalance was what gave the low readings. Other that or he's involved with the Sybil system on a high level...somehow. Like the creator's kid or something lol Anyway, really intense episode. Feel bad for Akane, though it's interesting (for a change) to see her being so shaken up with Makishima's terrorising. Wonder if this experience will make her have a high psycho pass reading and hence make her a latent criminal... I hope we'll get to see her psycho pass being affected even just a little bit, because it's hard to believe her psycho pass will always be clear... Makishima is a different case though. |
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| oh thank god, the creepy ass cyborg is finally dead, i hated his character yuki's death is probably one of the saddest and cruel ones i've seen, in the end akane couldn't save her and she was tortured until her last moment - i honestly felt a bit sick when she started screaming for shogo cutting her back up and when he slit her throat this was honestly probably one of my favorite arcs though (does this count as an arc? i mean it's two episodes so it's a short one but oh well im gonna count it as one) besides the rikako one |
| Wow, well that was quite the episode. Really enjoying Psycho Pass so far. After a solid 11 episode binge, time for a break and then to finish up within the next day or two. |
| More than anything, I reslly hated Akane in this episode. She acted like an idiot, letting her best friend be killed in front of her. All she did was holding the stupid Dominator. How can she stick to Sybil system when her friend's life is at stake? |
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karineyn said: More than anything, I reslly hated Akane in this episode. She acted like an idiot, letting her best friend be killed in front of her. All she did was holding the stupid Dominator. How can she stick to Sybil system when her friend's life is at stake? shes nothing but a mere pawn to her psycho pass/Sibyl system. This episode almost makes me want to justify Makishimas actions lol |
| Almost cried at the end of the episode. Damn, Urobuchi, you did it again! karineyn said: More than anything, I reslly hated Akane in this episode. She acted like an idiot, letting her best friend be killed in front of her. All she did was holding the stupid Dominator. How can she stick to Sybil system when her friend's life is at stake? It's not that easy to kill a person. Even when a friend's life is at stake. Will you be able to do it that easy? Assuming you're not a soldier or a maniac, or whatever. |
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puella_magi said: Almost cried at the end of the episode. Damn, Urobuchi, you did it again! karineyn said: More than anything, I reslly hated Akane in this episode. She acted like an idiot, letting her best friend be killed in front of her. All she did was holding the stupid Dominator. How can she stick to Sybil system when her friend's life is at stake? It's not that easy to kill a person. Even when a friend's life is at stake. Will you be able to do it that easy? Assuming you're not a soldier or a maniac, or whatever. Of cohese I wouldn't. I don't say killing is easy. But the context is quite different there. Akane is a detective, and they kill people when they have to. It is her job. If the Dominator worked on Makishima and switched to Lethal eliminator mode, she would kill him in the blink of an eye without any hesitation or regret. What I criticized is, she waited the Sybil system to tell her kill the man, and when the Dominator was unable to do that, she couldn't do anything. She knew he is a serial killer, she knew no matter how clear his psycho-pass is, he was guilty, but chose to do nothing at the cost of her friend's life. We are talking about a social structure where criminals are decomposed, let alone killed. Not the society we know where people are sent to prison or something. So, in that world, killing Makishima is the right thing to do. I don't think you can talk about being maniac or something in this context. Watch your language. |
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| @karineyn As I remember, Akane's experience of killing people is super low (even zero? I don't remember her killing anybody yet), so her psychological shock is understandable. As I can judge, in school they are taught theories, not practice (mentioned in early episodes). They are not taught properly how to kill a person both on physical and psychological levels or how to deal with this sort of situations. But Akane lives in different society, where people are relying on technologies on that high level that they usually can't do a thing when an error occures. Makishima and that cyborg minister guy told viewers about it. I didn't mean you're a maniac. What I was talking about that if you don't have any weapon-using skills and/or high self-possession and, of course, experience, it's hard to be rational in this kind of situations. |
puella_magiAug 14, 2016 3:21 AM
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| @puella_magi I get your point. And I know Aksme is the last person to kill someone in the show. But I didn't want Yuki to die that way. It would be great if Akane at least wounded Makisihma enough to prevent Yuki's death. Of course, it wouldnt make sense if the show's main antagonist died in the first half ot the series. I was just frustrated because Akane was so loyal to the Sybil system even though the system proved wrong in front of her eyes. Don't get me wrong, I can understand her psychology and shock as well. But I believe the scene shows how loyal she is to the system than how unwilling she is to kill someone. I am pretty sure she would kill Makisihma if the Dominator worked and switched to decompose mode despite her unwillingness to kill people. But emotions aside, it was a great scene where we learned how flawed the system is in dealing with criminals. |
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karineyn said: @puella_magi But I believe the scene shows how loyal she is to the system than how unwilling she is to kill someone. I am pretty sure she would kill Makisihma if the Dominator worked and switched to decompose mode despite her unwillingness to kill people. I agree mostly, but I don't believe that Akane doesn't care about killing factor. Speaking about Makishima situation, yes, she would kill him, because of all his previous murders, manipulative games yada yada yada. But yeah, it's really hard to judge for me now, when I finished only 11 episodes. Let's see what will Akane do next. |
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| I wonder how the Sybil system actually works. I mean, it is perfectly capable of"judging" machines (the drone some episode earlier, the two dogs, the old guy who only had a natural brain left), but when a human doesn't feel like it's wrong what he does it doesn't work? I wonder if it would have worked the moment after Makishima killed Yuki. After all, it does update according to perceived threats etc. Not that Akane was in any position to fire right then.. Apparently it's also not possible to change the setting (safe, stun, kill) on your own. Or Akane simply doesn't know that, but i assume the former. Why do they even need authorization then? I mean, whats the worst that can happen assuming the Sybil system is perfect? That one criminal gets his hand on a Dominator and shoots his rivals? Given that they apparently never question people or keep them under surveillance, but instead always go for the kill (or at least stun, and then directly to prison), how would that be bad? In a really rare case it could be that a criminal stuns an enforcer and either kills him afterwards with other weapons or gets away etc, but if they would simply drop a shipment of unlucked Dominators in the worst parts of the city, the underground would clean itself up.. Given that they probably can track Dominators, too (unless the connection is jammed, but then it won't work, too) they can simply swoop in after a week or so and pick them up. Also funny how that self driving weapon delivery car is not capable of standing up again. They have the technology to build autonomous hunting dogs capable of even bringing someone like Kogami down when he's not careful, but the police uses what amounts to a self propelled tea-cart.. |
| OKAY, I'M REALLY LOVING THIS ANIME, BUT AKANE IS RIDICULOUSLY STUPID AND I REALLY COULDN'T STAND IT THIS EPISODE. FORGIVE ME IF WHAT I SAY GOES AGAINST WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND YOUR OPINIONS, BUT HOW COULD SHE NOT SHOOT HIM EVEN WHEN GIVEN A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING GUN? I FAIL TO COMPREHEND HER INABILITY TO SAVE HER FRIEND WHEN SHE WAS GIVEN THE PROPER WEAPONRY JUST AS SHE FAILS TO COMPREHEND THE WEIGHT OF A LIFE AGAINST HER IDEALS. LIKE OKAY, I GET THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO KILL ANYBODY, BUT IT'S OBVIOUS THAT DESPITE WHAT THE SYSTEM SAYS, THAT MAN IS FUCKED UP AND IT'S YOUR FRIEND'S LIFE THAT IS ON THE LINE. SHE IS ABOUT TO BE KILLED RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS DROP THE USELESS DOMINATOR AND SHOOT HIM WITH THE HUNTING RIFLE WITH TWO HANDS. YOUR FRIEND WAS BEGGING YOU TO SAVE HER AND YOU DID NOTHING. I'M SORRY, BUT I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY DESPICABLE, AND I FEEL NOTHING BUT HATE FOR HER NOW. LIKE HOLY CRAP I MIGHT EVEN SAY SHE'S WORSE THAN SAKURA FROM NARUTO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KOGAMI SEES IN HER, BUT HEY, IF YOU'RE INTO THOSE GIRLS WHO ARE USELESS AND JUST LIVING IN THE IDEALISTIC FANTASIES, THEN BY ALL MEANS GO FOR IT. TOWARDS THE END OF THE EPISODE I HAVE FACEPALMED AT LEAST 8 TIMES AND I'M JUST IN UTTER DISBELIEF THAT SHE LET THAT HAPPEN. KOGAMI RISKED HIS LIFE TO SAVE HER, AND FOR WHAT? FOR NOTHING! I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING SHE COULD DO AT THIS POINT TO REDEEM HERSELF BECAUSE THATS- THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN REDEEM YOURSELF FROM. |
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| Makishima Shogo to be honest he is a really great villain I love how calm he is when he talks, Poor Tsunemori san to saw her friend killed like that. |
| That ending was damn frustrating. Ugh.. Can they now just make Kougami the protagonist for the rest of the series? I really dislike Akane now and I don't see that changing any easily nor soon. On the other hand, Makishima looks like an interesting villain. 9/10 for the majority of the episode but minus 3 points because you suck Akane, can't still believe she is as smart as the Sibyl system said or even right for that job. |
Dr_Manhattan95Mar 20, 2017 2:45 PM
| I hate Makishima officially. Never like guys like this him to begin with. The only thing I am interested in is, his grand scheme. Tho ye I would never get to like him. And Akane what the hell are you doing. Just grab that gun and kill that bastard. I hate him. He has a point but he's still annoying as hell with his scheming. Also he's so full of himself. Overall, this episode was weak. Do they really have like. 6 people in their security department? Don't make me laugh. Also Gino is as annoying as Makishima. |
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| DIS BITCH. WAS SO USELESS!!!!!!!!! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK Can't do first aid. Runs after an opponent way out of her league. Can't save her friend. *applause* Maki CLEARLY gave her a CHANCE to save Yuki and she blew it! He showed her by first slicing Yuki that the Sibyl System is total bullshit in front of him. And passed her a REAL gun to shoot him. Yet she still chose the piece of shit iron that he told her to discard because it doesn't work. Now Yuki's life who was protected by Kou by no means an easy task at all, went wasted by that bitch Akane. USELESS. If Yuki doesn't haunt you for letting her die, I don't know what else to say. Because you deserve it =_____= |
| This oughtta be one of the best episodes in this anime so far, if not best. It had everything |
| THAT WAS AWESOME. Probably one of the most shocking moments I've seen in anime. |
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| THAT WAS AWESOME. Probably one of the most shocking moments I've seen in anime. |
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| Akane you dumbass, i know seeing his coefficient being so low must have been confusing but when one of your friends' life is at stake the very least you can do is try to help instead of standing there like an idiot. Even Kougami got shot in order to help Yuki and he didn't even know her. Anyway very good episode and it was interesting to see more of Makishima |
DanaeJul 24, 2017 12:46 PM
| The ending was absolutely horrible. From the moment Akane chases after the Yuki alone you just know that Yuki is going to die. The coming events neatly line themselves up before you so you can predict the ending 10 minutes before it actually happens. Akane is going to chase after the guy. The guy does some stuff to make her feel upset. He forces her to make a seemingly important decision which she, of course, isn't able to make. Kills Yuki and leaves Akane traumatized. I bet the next episode is going to cover how badly traumatized she actually is by the incident by giving her a few clouds in her psycho-pass or something of the sort. |
| I am shocked. Poor Yuki... :( |
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| Why can't Kougami be the main character of this show, i like him way better than Akane. |
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| It's so cool to see some directors having the guts to kill and scar the good guys too, this episode left me at the edge of my seat! My thoughts after episode 1: 'ok, so each episode will bring us closer to the truth about how and why sybil is going to fail spectacularly, and the good guys will either die defending it or win by defying it'. And it's slowly going this way. Shougo and Akane have something in common - the unalterable nature of their hues - but will it change now that Akane saw her friend get brutally murdered, or will it stay the same and prove that Akane's not normal by sybil standards? So glad I picked this series up. |
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DreamerXX said: That ending, [sigh]. The way I see, it's either you do something and there is a chance of saving her, or you do nothing and there is no chance of you saving her. All this really does is frustrates me. I really have no sympathy for people who are either stupid, weak of resolve, or cowards. Even if it meant that Akane's crime coefficient would go up and maybe she gets labelled as a latent criminal, doesn't saving her friend makes that worth it? Instead of just hesitating and shouting at the other guy to stop, why wouldn't you risk it and save your friend. Just makes me shake my head. On one hand - I wanted her to do something. On the other - I don't think Akane's problem was the fear of her crime coefficient going up, she's shown to care for people from ep 1, and to have a strong desire to protect despite the risk (remember how she fought for the rape victim in the 1st episode, to the point of paralyzing her enforcer). That can't be it. I think it was more of a complete shock and confusion of how the system she's known and followed her whole life, which she was born into, which she's trusted with her life (remember how she said she'd chosen her career because she believed Sybil showed her a way to making her life a meaningless one) - that that all-encompassing system they all trust in their everyday lives must be flawed from the inside out. Every day on the force has shown her signs of that, but nothing did so more than the simple fact of her Dominator not seeing the threat in Makishima. Her beliefs were in that instant shaken to the core, and I don't think I'm too far off suspecting that some of her thoughts went along the lines of 'if sybil doesn't see that threat, maybe what he's saying is right? Maybe he won't do it? Or maybe he's not to be judged by someone like me if even Sybil doesn't judge him?' Either way, I suspect her world collapsed right there and then, and she didn't regain her composure fast enough to act. And the moment she shakingly shot two shots knowing there are no more left, she realised she'd just given up her friend's life. |
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DreamerXX said: I can see what you mean. Her entire view on the world was shaken and she has so much doubt in her that she doesn't know what to do. But still, that's your friend there, and someone is holding a gun to her head and threatening to kill her. You are her friend and a police officer, shouldn't you judge the situation based on your own, and save her? Even if it means shooting him dead. Obviously I get that she is so used to the system and had never really doubted it, that maybe she trusts the system more than herself. I'm just saying that viewing this as an individual from the outside, it is very frustrating to watch, and does not sit well with me. If it was me in this situation, I probably would be even more panicked and maybe doubt myself. But when a good friend of mine's life is in danger, I would like to believe that I have what it takes to leap into action and do everything within my power to save them. Can't argue with that - I feel the same way. |
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| Woow. Best episode so far. Notice how the crime coefficient of makishima keeps on dropping the closer he gets to the kill because he truly believes that what hes about to do is something good. Crazy encounter between the two. The sibyl system is flawed and not perfect in any means. |
| Yuki no! Well, that's certainly a good turning point type episode, and I'm honestly not as mad at Akane as it seems so many people are. There's definitely more she could've done, but she did shoot, and it's not like she had used a shotgun before. And while she's seen flaws with the whole system, she's never seen a criminal be seen as a non-criminal, only vice versa, so of course she'd think the crime coefficient would go up at some point |
| It'd be explainable if Shogo's Crime Coefficient being dangerously low is the result of him not actually pulling off the crimes themselves but seeing his numbers go lower and lower the more he came closer to killing Akane's friend was insane. They depended on the Sibyl System so much that an exception like him would be almost impossible to apprehend from afar. Traditional weapons like that Double Barrel Rifle must be really difficult to come by those days and wielding them is very difficult if you weren't trained to do it. Shinya tried so hard to keep her alive but everything was for naught because of that glitch. It was either she missed miserably or he'll use her friend as a meat-shield. At least that cyborg's dealt with and hundreds won't have to play his hunting game anytime soon anymore. |
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| Fantastic episode, dominator owned the old cyborg fella. Sad that she's so caught up in the system that she wouldn't just aim that shotgun better to save her friend.. |
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