To all lolicons, what about real life loli?

khorven said:
How much does your Japanese-influenced moral allow you to sexualize let's say:



eh?

I personally do not believe in the whole 'age of consent', this supposed 'children don't know what sex is' is bullshit to me, first because 'knowing what sex is' is a pretty vague and ill-defined term, secondly, I haven't seen any research being done into it at all, thirdly, there have been countless cultures par locum et tempus where it was normal practice for children to have whatever sex, even with animals without any psychological trauma to them. Classical Greek and Rome, classical India, Classical American civilizations, Arabia, and of course Japan. I'm pretty much devoid of moral in the conventional sense, that is disapproving of things 'because they are sick'. So indeed, I sexualize some real life loli. With the stress on 'some', æsthetic people are rare for me to meet, attractive people even more so. As I already let know in the gender role topic, I don't think that much in 'age' and 'gender', I do think in 'cute', I like cuteness, and that's more so often found in loli.

Flibbertigibbet said:
I don't actually have any affiliation with the Dear Leader, because I'm from South Korea. I've been posing this entire time.

khorven said:
How much does your Japanese-influenced moral allow you to sexualize let's say:



eh?

I personally do not believe in the whole 'age of consent', this supposed 'children don't know what sex is' is bullshit to me, first because 'knowing what sex is' is a pretty vague and ill-defined term, secondly, I haven't seen any research being done into it at all, thirdly, there have been countless cultures par locum et tempus where it was normal practice for children to have whatever sex, even with animals without any psychological trauma to them. Classical Greek and Rome, classical India, Classical American civilizations, Arabia, and of course Japan. I'm pretty much devoid of moral in the conventional sense, that is disapproving of things 'because they are sick'. So indeed, I sexualize some real life loli. With the stress on 'some', æsthetic people are rare for me to meet, attractive people even more so. As I already let know in the gender role topic, I don't think that much in 'age' and 'gender', I do think in 'cute', I like cuteness, and that's more so often found in loli.

Rpgwiz99 said:


How old are you talking man? If you approve of fucking 5 year olds than your a sick bastard. I 14-15 year old girl is a bit differnt but that really depends on her maturity level, I would never think of going with any female more that 4 years younger than me unless we were adults. Its truly digusting to take advantage of a childs innocence.

ZinnKid said:
*fixed

FireReaverX said:
Nice private photobucket, guy.




I wonder how many more of those you have...

sikkkke said:
wonder how long that took

the_seventh_l said:
^ best script ever

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Razma said:
This shit is getting out of hand now, why the hell are we posting pics of little asian girls with swimsuits?

And khorven, there's an age limit for certain things for a reason. Young people have no real life experience, they make quick, rash decisions based on whatever emotions they are experiencing at the time. A 12 year old girl and an 18 year girl have 2 totally different mindsets, saying that age doesnt matter is a cop out for your sick ass fetish. It takes years to figure out how your body really works, and how sex is going to effect you physically and emotionally, and a lot of people who have sex before they are ready scar themselves, a lot dont even realize that they have done it either. Children consenting to adults is not a consent out of a sexual desire, its out of a desire to please a person they trust and admire most of the time, and when the adult takes advantage of that, it is one of the worst thing that is possible.

Razma said:
And you base this shit off of 'Classical Greek and Rome', what a load of shit, saying that it doesn't cause any 'psychological Trauma to them', now how do we know that? Did people study the reactions of kids while they were getting forced to wed/sex at age 10? Kids who have sex at a young age with an adult do suffer from relationship issues, trust issues and a number of other effects. The truth is children cant make the decision about sex, shit half of the adults in the world cant make a rational decision when it comes to sex, and children are by far the worst to place in a position of that.

Razma said:
After reading about your own 'loli' which you seem so proud of, all it shows is how weak and pitiful a person can be. You say you have no morals, but we both know thats not true, on some level you know what you suposedly did with this 'loli' was wrong (i say suposedly because honestly I think you are starved for attention and thats why you pick abstract topics to rattle about). You wont admit it I know, you will more than likely have some big essay ready for me to read when I check again, telling me to mathematically prove that a 12 year old cant make a decision or some bs. But when the smoke clears all that is left is the fact that you are a sick fuck my friend, and I hope you grow up one day and dont end up being a pedaphile like you are quickly approaching.

"physicist" said:



I think this is a pretty silly arguement. He argues as if it were an arguement about declassification of the concepts as a whole, but for as far as I understand, the only thing argued in the paper I linked was removal of them from the DSM as being paraphilia, or 'mental illnesses'. His point also doesn't hold; consider what happened to homosexuality after it was removed from DSM. No more studies were done ever since...? I find that hard to believe.



Exactly. And we should be able to question those laws being right. This person is funny, she takes practising pedophilia being illegal as a REQUIREMENT in debating removal of the attraction pedophilia from DSM definitions, rather than using DSM as a source of information for creating such laws. In other words, she hangs on to an un-(or at least under-)arguemented law as an arguement to reject removal of pedophilia as being a mental illness. How silly can one be...



She acknowledges that sex at a young age is often looked back on positively according to some psychiatrists, and doesn't falsify that, but accepts it. As there is no remaining logical ground to reject it, she says that despite this evidence, she'll hang on to her (unfounded) morals. Now this is a big person in the science called "psychiatry".. Wow.



That it is criminal is irrelevant, the law is subject to change and cannot be used to argue whether an attraction is 'right' or 'wrong'. That it is immoral is also subject to change, and definately not something that is solid or inherently true. In other words: the APA just said "we do not like pedophilia". Nothing more, no further value can be added to this statement, except that current society (with no further arguements) apparently agrees with them; for the law and morals are that way. It's only an observation on how we feel about it, not a guideline about how we should feel about it.



According to DSM, people that have sexual feelings for children and do not act on them, are not pedophiles. :lol:

Another compelling arguement in favor of maintaining paraphilias in DSM:


His reasoning is stunning. "We must not remove it, because we will never remove it."

APA is a joke, from what I'm reading here. I'm imagining a room full of psychiatrists (which is a joke on itself) debating in the most moralistic country of all, which I believe is the USA. All being veteran psychiatrists and very protective of what they achieved through DSM and psychiatry. I think they are indeed so biased they are uncapable of drawing logical or "objective" conclusions on the matter.

The paper I linked was not objective, but it was sufficiently arguemented and I've yet to see them falsified by proper reasoning or valid arguements.

Razma said:
Shit I really dont have a burden of proof, thats the lovely thing about having morals, you dont have to have proof that something is wrong. you just know that fucking a 12 year old is wrong, great isnt it? The real burden is on you, having to talk yourself into believing that half of the shit that comes out of your mouth isnt pure garbage.

Razma said:
Shit I really dont have a burden of proof, thats the lovely thing about having morals, you dont have to have proof that something is wrong. you just know that fucking a 12 year old is wrong, great isnt it? The real burden is on you, having to talk yourself into believing that half of the shit that comes out of your mouth isnt pure garbage.

Plate said:


This is the equivalent of

Sticks said:


And as much as you love real lolis think black people shouldn't be slaves, society frowns upon it. You can bitch and moan all you like, but as long as the people around you consider you a pedo nigra lover, you'll be disliked, shunned, and thrown out with the garbage. Come back in 50 (arbitrary number) years when the rest of society has changed, or find a time machine and go back to premodernity.

Sticks said:
This one's turned into a flamewar.

And as much as you love real lolis, society frowns upon it. You can bitch and moan all you like, but as long as the people around you consider you a pedo (or replace that with morally objectionable) you'll be disliked, shunned, and thrown out with the garbage. Come back in 50 (arbitrary number) years when the rest of society has changed, or find a time machine and go back to premodernity.

Last post in this topic before mods find a reason to lock.

kei-clone said:
chill out guys. have a healthy debate, but no reason to invest emotions into it and call each other names and whatnot. first warning.

and lol, those latter two pics aren't even loli. they're clearly past puberty, just check out their racks. they only look young cuz they're asians lol. seriously, who needs pedos when you got azns? :D

khorven said:
The swimming pool one is clearly shopped by the way, loli head on breasted body.

kei-clone said:


i dunno man, the way that hair's falling...it'd be quite impressive

Razma said:
ok I am done with this shit, I had a lengthy reply typed up, but this arguement is useless. You know I hope you do snap and go out on a murderous rampage, less of you is worth the loss of a couple of lives.

Plate said:


And the winner is~