| My problem is not so much with just J.C. Staff as it is with the fact that we're getting staff that relatively 'rookie' or haven't performed in excelling capacity before. We're getting the director Kill Me Baby! for fucks sake. This is a travesty. I've still got a little faith, but considering the notorious failures this studio has produced (let us not forget, once again, Yumekui Merry) among other things, especially considering their history of adaptations (the last one they did was Tsukihime) of visual novels. I will give it a shot one way or another because this is my favorite VN, period, but if they ruin this (and I'm already slightly peeved about the ordering), I will absolutely shun J.C. Staff and the production staff of the anime in particular forever as crap. |
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| Doubts are cleared =) Let's hope it will be 26 eps long~ |
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Lelouch_X said: Doubts are cleared =) Let's hope it will be 26 eps long~ Lets hope its at least 50 episodes long. Its supposed to be longer than Clannad, so if its any shorter than that it will be rushing through. |
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jmal said: giusex27 said: really hope the adaption turns out to be great, after all J.C. always had mediocre animation That's not really fair, if you mean pure animation quality. Yeah they can pump out some mediocre animation in low budget titles (so will most high-volume studios) but if they've got a budget to work with, they can do some very pretty stuff. Purely from an animation perspective (not commenting either way on how much I like or dislike the shows), titles like Railgun, Shana, Index, ROD TV have very nice visuals, as far as technical quality goes. And they've got less action-centric titles with good, consistent art as well, including some where I really enjoyed the art like AnoNatsu, Toradora, Otome Youkai Zakuro, and more. If JC gets a good budget for LB!, animation quality shouldn't be a concern. I'm not going to say they're on par with KyoAni, but they are very capable of good art and animation. yeah i loved the animation on some of the titles they've previously done like AnoNatsu, but in others like Bakuman the animation it's not that good, so yeah the real problem we are dealing with it's the budget, i hope they really do their best job |
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| For a director who directed Kill Me Baby for crying out loud and his task of doing an adaptation that has VERY HIGH expectations, I'll be prepared as to what he has planned for this anime, but my expectation for this anime is ridiculously low. J.C.Staff COULD possibly pull off a master of an anime out of this, or they could make a disaster out of this, nothing in between now. |
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| I have more faith now, but I'm still worried. They want to make it lengthy, but will they do good enough to make enough money to fulfill that wish? |
fujifruit said: Fletchaaa said: 12 episodes is enough for LB.Lelouch_X said: Doubts are cleared =) Let's hope it will be 26 eps long~ Lets hope its at least 50 episodes long. Its supposed to be longer than Clannad, so if its any shorter than that it will be rushing through. LoL You know nothing... |
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| The "long" term makes me think it'll be one of those 2 series JC Staff shows. Like how Shana and Index have been done (same producer, too!) |
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| I'm hoping they finish it in one long run or at least a two cour. If its going to be 1-2yr breaks in-between 12 episode seasons, I will start crying. |
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fujifruit said: yah sure, and the hour and half for the clanand movie was fine, and so was the 12 episode 2002 kanon, cause those worked out so well and werent rushed at all rightFletchaaa said: 12 episodes is enough for LB.Lelouch_X said: Doubts are cleared =) Let's hope it will be 26 eps long~ Lets hope its at least 50 episodes long. Its supposed to be longer than Clannad, so if its any shorter than that it will be rushing through. and LB is longer than both those series so im sure it will work out even better in 12 eps. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: fujifruit said: yah sure, and the hour and half for the clanand movie was fine, and so was the 12 episode 2002 kanon, cause those worked out so well and werent rushed at all rightFletchaaa said: 12 episodes is enough for LB.Lelouch_X said: Doubts are cleared =) Let's hope it will be 26 eps long~ Lets hope its at least 50 episodes long. Its supposed to be longer than Clannad, so if its any shorter than that it will be rushing through. and LB is longer than both those series so im sure it will work out even better in 12 eps. The 12 episode Chaos;Head was a masterpiece, no doubts. I'd say, ~26 episodes would be good, with 13 for Refrain. |
| Yeah, of course, but 12 is still too much, why not 3x20min ? |
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SIeepwalker said: Yea totally just have LB be a set of 3 27 minute OVAs. Would be genius *troll face*Yeah, of course, but 12 is still too much, why not 3x20min ? |
Kazeshini said: sounds overrated already Don't want to hear that from someone with a K-ON forum avatar! >_< I'm still skeptical as J.C have done nothing right lately but hopefully if there are Key members on board to steer them the right direction it shouldnt be too disastrous. The good news is definitely that it looks like it wont be a compressed debacle like Angel Beats was as we are looking at at least 26 episodes I'd reckon. However anyone who has played the games knows there is plenty of material for up to 52 episodes easily and the one thing JC Staff has going for them is that they definitely like longer running series. I hope this rings true. |
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ichigo03 said: I'm still loving all the rage....simply hilarious. All you people do is give anime a horrible name and continue to show all the stereotypes that others have against you. Thankfully I learned a long time ago, not to go ape shit over things such as this. When you'll have waited a fucking long time for a specific adaptation to come out, just so they announce that a low tier team is behind said adaptation, you'll understand why some people are still upset and unsure if this is going to be a success. You know, some people don't want their anime butchered and rushed. If you don't care, that's your choice. But we want quality, not shit. |
fujifruit said: Solkiskey said: Refrain can be done in 12 episodes. All of the routes in LBs seem like an afterthought and have no purpose. The plot is simple,but slightly dragged out.DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: fujifruit said: yah sure, and the hour and half for the clanand movie was fine, and so was the 12 episode 2002 kanon, cause those worked out so well and werent rushed at all rightFletchaaa said: 12 episodes is enough for LB.Lelouch_X said: Doubts are cleared =) Let's hope it will be 26 eps long~ Lets hope its at least 50 episodes long. Its supposed to be longer than Clannad, so if its any shorter than that it will be rushing through. and LB is longer than both those series so im sure it will work out even better in 12 eps. The 12 episode Chaos;Head was a masterpiece, no doubts. I'd say, ~26 episodes would be good, with 13 for Refrain. Pretty much. I hope they'll be a little bit more important in the TV series. |
ichigo03 said: Solkiskey said: When you'll have waited a fucking long time for a specific adaptation to come out, just so they announce that a low tier team is behind said adaptation, you'll understand why some people are still upset and unsure if this is going to be a success. You know, some people don't want their anime butchered and rushed. If you don't care, that's your choice. But we want quality, not shit. NO... You people are raging over stupid assumptions and because you didn't get your way, which makes most of you look like little kids crying over spilled milk. Assumption? If you look at the team, it's clear that it's not very solid if you look at the other series they made. JC Staff isn't weak, but they're known to butcher up a lot of their adaptation, and their last visual novel adaptation was a huge... fail. Of course people are fucking afraid of JC fucking up a visual novel adaptation that's been awaited since 2007 (?). I only buy licensed anime, haven't bought much yet. I plan on buying more. I don't see how it's related to the problem, though. |
jay24 said: I have seen almost all of the anime since 2008 and for me J.C.Staff may not be the best studio out there but they are one of the good ones. People must understand that writng a manga, novel or visual novel is different from writng a script for an anime that alterations is sometimes necessary due to several factors. How come people judge or complain about it before it is even released. Of course alterations are sometimes necessary, but the problem with some adaptations is that they're altered SO MUCH that they just... aren't as good as the original series. |
| You guys are being ridiculous. Quite honestly, I'm just thankful that we are even GETTING an anime. I was just about to think it was never going to happen. However, all you want to do is whine. Heck, Key just cleared up some of the things we were worrying about in the previous thread, and you STILL complain, sometimes about the things they just cleared up! I'm sure that if J.C. Staff did a fantastic job on the anime, you guys would still complain. Don't get me wrong, your worries are not irrational. This is the first Key anime with J.C. Staff and they don't have the best track record, but you guys are blowing it way out of proportion. I like what LUNI_TUNZ from Anime News Network said on one of the LB! articles, "Ever since it leaked people have been acting like JC intends on taking the game discs and using them as coasters around the office - or tiny frisbees for their dogs, while wringing their hands over the horror they plan to unleash on the world." It's not like us bitching and complaining about this is going to change anything. Trust me, if I thought bitching and complaining would make Kyoani take over the project, then I would be one of the first ones up here to bitch and complain! But it won't change anything, so I'm at least going to try to make an effort to stay positive and hope for the best. If the anime is good, then that's great! If it's bad then it's not like "omg they ruined little bsuters foreverrrr!!!!one11!!1 T____T". |
-KamioRika-Apr 9, 2012 5:37 PM
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
| I can't help but agree with the last 2 posts |
Key Fan |
-KamioRika- said: You guys are being ridiculous. Quite honestly, I'm just thankful that we are even GETTING an anime. I was just about to think it was never going to happen. However, all you want to do is whine. Heck, Key just cleared up some of the things we were worrying about in the previous thread, and you STILL complain, sometimes about the things they just cleared up! I'm sure that if J.C. Staff did a fantastic job on the anime, you guys would still complain. Don't get me wrong, your worries are not irrational. This is the first Key anime with J.C. Staff and they don't have the best track record, but you guys are blowing it way out of proportion. I like what LUNI_TUNZ from Anime News Network said on one of the LB! articles, "Ever since it leaked people have been acting like JC intends on taking the game discs and using them as coasters around the office - or tiny frisbees for their dogs, while wringing their hands over the horror they plan to unleash on the world." It's not like us bitching and complaining about this is going to change anything. Trust me, if I thought bitching and complaining would make Kyoani take over the project, then I would be one of the first ones up here to bitch and complain! But it won't change anything, so I'm at least going to try to make an effort to stay positive and hope for the best. If the anime is good, then that's great! If it's bad then it's not like "omg they ruined little bsuters foreverrrr!!!!one11!!1 T____T". tl;dr half of your wall, but I'd rather not have an anime if it's to be butchered up. Not that I'm saying JC will-- but isn't it obvious people will doubt JC's ability of adapting Little Busters! with the team they've made for it? Oh, and of course Key would say "not to worry", do you really think they'll say "this adaptation will fail"? ( ¬‿¬) |
Solkiskey said: -KamioRika- said: You guys are being ridiculous. Quite honestly, I'm just thankful that we are even GETTING an anime. I was just about to think it was never going to happen. However, all you want to do is whine. Heck, Key just cleared up some of the things we were worrying about in the previous thread, and you STILL complain, sometimes about the things they just cleared up! I'm sure that if J.C. Staff did a fantastic job on the anime, you guys would still complain. Don't get me wrong, your worries are not irrational. This is the first Key anime with J.C. Staff and they don't have the best track record, but you guys are blowing it way out of proportion. I like what LUNI_TUNZ from Anime News Network said on one of the LB! articles, "Ever since it leaked people have been acting like JC intends on taking the game discs and using them as coasters around the office - or tiny frisbees for their dogs, while wringing their hands over the horror they plan to unleash on the world." It's not like us bitching and complaining about this is going to change anything. Trust me, if I thought bitching and complaining would make Kyoani take over the project, then I would be one of the first ones up here to bitch and complain! But it won't change anything, so I'm at least going to try to make an effort to stay positive and hope for the best. If the anime is good, then that's great! If it's bad then it's not like "omg they ruined little bsuters foreverrrr!!!!one11!!1 T____T". tl;dr half of your wall, but I'd rather not have an anime if it's to be butchered up. Not that I'm saying JC will-- but isn't it obvious people will doubt JC's ability of adapting Little Busters! with the team they've made for it? Oh, and of course Key would say "not to worry", do you really think they'll say "this adaptation will fail"? ( ¬‿¬) Then don't watch the anime! Quite frankly Solkiskey said: -KamioRika- said: You guys are being ridiculous. Quite honestly, I'm just thankful that we are even GETTING an anime. I was just about to think it was never going to happen. However, all you want to do is whine. Heck, Key just cleared up some of the things we were worrying about in the previous thread, and you STILL complain, sometimes about the things they just cleared up! I'm sure that if J.C. Staff did a fantastic job on the anime, you guys would still complain. Don't get me wrong, your worries are not irrational. This is the first Key anime with J.C. Staff and they don't have the best track record, but you guys are blowing it way out of proportion. I like what LUNI_TUNZ from Anime News Network said on one of the LB! articles, "Ever since it leaked people have been acting like JC intends on taking the game discs and using them as coasters around the office - or tiny frisbees for their dogs, while wringing their hands over the horror they plan to unleash on the world." It's not like us bitching and complaining about this is going to change anything. Trust me, if I thought bitching and complaining would make Kyoani take over the project, then I would be one of the first ones up here to bitch and complain! But it won't change anything, so I'm at least going to try to make an effort to stay positive and hope for the best. If the anime is good, then that's great! If it's bad then it's not like "omg they ruined little bsuters foreverrrr!!!!one11!!1 T____T". tl;dr half of your wall, but I'd rather not have an anime if it's to be butchered up. Not that I'm saying JC will-- but isn't it obvious people will doubt JC's ability of adapting Little Busters! with the team they've made for it? Oh, and of course Key would say "not to worry", do you really think they'll say "this adaptation will fail"? ( ¬‿¬) Of course it's obvious that people will doubt J.C. Staff's ability, even I doubt J.C. Staff's ability, but I'm not going to whine or moan over it when it won't change a thing. You know, you don't HAVE to watch the anime if you think it's going to be shit. And I think that Key would not have went with J.C. Staff if they thought the adaptation would fail. |
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
| Errr, I didn't write the "Then don't watch the anime! Quite frankly" part. Not sure what happened there, lol. |
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
-KamioRika- said: Errr, I didn't write the "Then don't watch the anime! Quite frankly" part. Not sure what happened there, lol. No problem. Of course we don't have to watch it, but we've been waiting for an adaptation (well, I've been waiting for 2 years), and now we're not even sure if it'll be a good one or not. |
-KamioRika- said: It's not like us bitching and complaining about this is going to change anything. Trust me, if I thought bitching and complaining would make Kyoani take over the project, then I would be one of the first ones up here to bitch and complain! But it won't change anything, so I'm at least going to try to make an effort to stay positive and hope for the best. If the anime is good, then that's great! If it's bad then it's not like "omg they ruined little bsuters foreverrrr!!!!one11!!1 T____T". Actually..., you are wrong. It is because so many people complained that the president of Visual Arts himself made a public comment reassuring all his fans. You alone complaining won't do much, but along with hundreds of thousands of sore fans, it does make a different. Well all in all, I'm sure JC Staff will do fine, especially because they have all eyes on them. Anything that goes wrong and there goes their reputation. FEEL THE PRESSURE JC STAFF. DON'T DISAPPOINT ME. |
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Kurogashi said: -KamioRika- said: It's not like us bitching and complaining about this is going to change anything. Trust me, if I thought bitching and complaining would make Kyoani take over the project, then I would be one of the first ones up here to bitch and complain! But it won't change anything, so I'm at least going to try to make an effort to stay positive and hope for the best. If the anime is good, then that's great! If it's bad then it's not like "omg they ruined little bsuters foreverrrr!!!!one11!!1 T____T". Actually..., you are wrong. It is because so many people complained that the president of Visual Arts himself made a public comment reassuring all his fans. You alone complaining won't do much, but along with hundreds of thousands of sore fans, it does make a different. Well all in all, I'm sure JC Staff will do fine, especially because they have all eyes on them. Anything that goes wrong and there goes their reputation. FEEL THE PRESSURE JC STAFF. DON'T DISAPPOINT ME. I fully agree with this which is why I breathed a sigh of relief when Key understood the fans grievances. After all, after the visual novel hit there has been talk of the fans wanting it adapted for as long as it's been out. Now with all the concern that it has finally happened and being with a hit or miss studio will put massive pressure on JC Staff. Personally I think the production team is a bit low par for the quality the fans will expect from this but I could be wrong. However as Kuro says, with all eyes on them, THEY CANT AFFORD TO FAIL in all honesty and that being said, it could turn into a diamond in the rough. After all, if they do fail it will be one of the most publicly humiliating blunders they make and will spell the end of the studio being taken seriously for any major projects. After all for this year, I dont think there is a more hyped upcoming anime at the moment but that could be own narrow vision getting in the way as I dont know much more that is coming soon. |
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| so did they read the other post here on MAL about j.c. staff animating this?? lol this is funny |
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supermegasonic said: Lol as If. This was probably responses to the rumours and tweets around Japanese blogs and Boards ever since the Leak went out.so did they read the other post here on MAL about j.c. staff animating this?? lol this is funny |
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Kurogashi said: -KamioRika- said: It's not like us bitching and complaining about this is going to change anything. Trust me, if I thought bitching and complaining would make Kyoani take over the project, then I would be one of the first ones up here to bitch and complain! But it won't change anything, so I'm at least going to try to make an effort to stay positive and hope for the best. If the anime is good, then that's great! If it's bad then it's not like "omg they ruined little bsuters foreverrrr!!!!one11!!1 T____T". Actually..., you are wrong. It is because so many people complained that the president of Visual Arts himself made a public comment reassuring all his fans. You alone complaining won't do much, but along with hundreds of thousands of sore fans, it does make a different. Well all in all, I'm sure JC Staff will do fine, especially because they have all eyes on them. Anything that goes wrong and there goes their reputation. FEEL THE PRESSURE JC STAFF. DON'T DISAPPOINT ME. Oh, I understand that the complaining is what led to the president addressing us, but it still won't change the fact that J.C. Staff is doing the anime. The complaints are also being terribly blown out of proportion. I, too, think they will do fine. This will either make them or break them and if they mess up, they are pretty much digging their own grave. I'm sure they they will do the best they can possibly do, not only to please us fans, but to save their own butts. |
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
| screw u JCS => |
RitsujunApr 9, 2012 7:51 PM
| <img src="http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8165/cnoo1rs.jpg" />てめー怒ってる？ |
| http://emd2nd.blog47.fc2.com/blog-entry-2477.html#more Some pic from Dengeki Visual Art's 2012 Spring |
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| Well, JC Staff... I don't want to say you'll screw up yet, so I'll give you a chance. But you better not let us (the people who have played the VN) down. Make an adaptation that will bring the VN justice. |
 Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol. |
| J.C Staff, the ones who did the anime adaptation for Tsukihime? No just no. |
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| i just realized that the other thread got locked. thats a 1st i've seen of that. anyway back on topic, looking at all the stuff jc has done, they mostly got 7's. so it will atleast be ok. now with the added pressure, i'm sure they will prioritize this anime, try to make it better, so there's atleast a bit of a chance you will get the satisfied ending from the vn, whatever it is. or they might sucker you to have an opened ending for another season. |
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| hmmm long series? what? 50+ episodes for in depth character plot? possibly naruto length? WARNING: wall of text not for impatient readers so i placed it on spoiler "enthusiasm does not mean they will do their best everyday till the end" that applies to JC staffs. little busters is a great money maker for studios given that it was "correctly" animated but.... EDIT: i just remembered, arent they will be animating to aru majutsu no index movie? so there's that and there's this and the other one... |
MasterPogiApr 9, 2012 9:25 PM
| Does anybody have any of the stuff from Dengeki translated yet? |
| Not the EX version? Boo. |
-KamioRika- said: It doesn't look like you have enough experience with them to make that assertion. Or even bothered LOOKING at their shitz.The complaints are also being terribly blown out of proportion. If they're going to animate it, they damn well better do it right. If they can't do it right, just don't do it at all. I'd rather wait for a year or two to have it done by a worthy studio than have them needlessly rush it and shit out a terrible adaptation. Or have them make a steaming poo and have to wait for a remake several years later. |
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| Well, JC Staff isn't the most consistent of studios but they have had some pretty good romantic drama type series like Toradora and Honey and Clover. Yes, I release that none of those staff members are working on this, but it's still worth noting I think. Since I haven't read Little Busters yet, as I'm just now getting decently close to finishing Clannad (which I can't imagine LB! being better than). But, I'll definitely be reading the VN before watching the anime because, despite my optimism, I want to experience it first in the best way possible. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
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