Guilty Crown Episode 8 Discussion

SoFarGone said:


oh you mean the prequel to CG. My bad I thought you were comparing Crown to it.

kamikaze_1996 said:


oh you mean the prequel to CG. My bad I thought you were comparing Crown to it.

GodlyKyon said:

it isn't really a prequel, if im not mistaken it is based on 2017 around the time when zero/lelouch formed the black knights, its just that lelouch isn't the main character, but he might make an appearance, i just feel that akito wont be as awesome and epic as lelouch so the new GC wont be all that great

kamikaze_1996 said:

it's CG at least in name. it's worth checking out. but I agree the characters will probably not be as satisfying. perhaps this can take place during the time when lelouch lost his memory?

mystik said:
Shuu really was checking out those boobs. girl in the wheelchair wasn't so bad either.

how does Gai know everyone's voids anyway?

crappy interruption from Shuu, and everyone else was there.

was that Shuu's father or someone pretending to be him? vague.

I guess that one classmate that likes him will fall into the category of side girl who has no chance. why there always has to be one I have no idea.

Mormegil said:
GOD DAMN. 13 PAGES!

I'm amazed at Guilty Crown's popularity. Seriously, why so popular? Because of its relation to Code Geass?

onedaysnotice said:


its more infamous than popular. Read the entire thread. Go on. lol

onedaysnotice said:


So you're saying to lower your expectations for this anime so far down, to the point that this show being a giant compendium of cliches and fanservices is considered fine and 'intentional'?. The first ep set the stage. They showed to us that Japan is just recovering from a massive pandemic, and that they are in constant conflict with some "terrorist" group. I do not see how fanservice comes into this and how this cannot be seen as 'serious'. You say that GC follows the style of combining serious aspects with cliches and fanservices, well I say that this anime has an identity crisis. This was one of the major things that restricted HOTD from greatness. HOTD, imo, (at the first few eps/chapters) established the 'zombie apocalypse' atmosphere perfectly, but the over-the-top ecchi that subsequently followed held it from being a 8.5 or 9, to being a 7 or 8. Choose one or the other ffs or if you're gonna do both, do the fanservices tastefully and in moderation.

Just because other animes have followed this style does not excuse GC for the untasteful use of fanservice. Think of the Kallen shower scene in CG. Now this is all from memory, but I remember that scene as being a mind game between Kallen and Lelouch on trying to discern each other's true identity. Now that was obviously fanservice, but it was done right - it actually had a reason. Meanwhile in GC, Hare's just putting Shu's arm in between her breast because she wants to one-up Inori, and his mum is pressing her boobs on him just for the fun of it. Yes I know that this series in not nearly on par with CG, but you would want to think that with a show with this much hype and financial backing, that they would hire a director that knows how to employ fanservice at the right moment.

In addition, this show isn't even funny, it doesn't even make me smile. A "serious" (and I'm saying serious because of how they established the anime with the first ep) anime 'intentionally' riddled with cliches without some sort of comedy to back it up/complement it and give reason to the fanservice, just makes it (imo) a failure on that front. It just ends up being a petty excuse to appeal to the horny prepubescent 12-year-olds (lol stereotype. I know that most of them are not like that, but you get what I mean). You can't expect the majority of people to suddenly change their mind and say 'oh this anime doesn't want to be taken seriously' after establishing such a serious background and undertones. If that's how GC was actually designed to be, then I just lost even more respect for it.

I still have hope for this anime, I really do. And this is shown with how I'm still watching this anime and critiquing it. I want this anime to get back on its feet and give us the same greatness that the first ep did. However when an anime gives an intro such as that, and then proceeds by spitting on your face, treating you like a child, then that is inexcusable. It is still an enjoyable anime, but it could've been so much more.

lol when I rant, I tend to forget why the heck I started in the first place. Please excuse any incoherencies.

Omegadark said:
To all you guys going "shu is a pussy" and "why is great animation being wasted on a piece of crap like Guilty Crown" you don't have to watch it you know? You keep bitching every single week, yet you crawl back to it every time to watch it. Another thing is why does everyone hate main characters that act like this? I saw the exact same bullshit on Deadman Wonderland about Ganta. I really don't understand unless your all Rambo in real life or something.
That aside i think this was a great episode, exactly what GC needed to lighten the mood from the last few episodes. The character development was also great, as was the bgms.

GodlyKyon said:

I have to laugh at this despite being neutral. First of all, GC is a very average show in terms of character and plot. But it's not bad enough for people to drop before let's say, a season(11-12 eps). However, this show was hyped up a lot before it's actual release. So many people had too high of an expectations to it and points out many superficial detail. But some of them are really stupid.

Oh, also, the (main) characters are not exactly lovable. Gai being a douchebag and Inori being a sex doll, and Shu, my favorite of the 3, being a cockblocker and has his reasons all over the place.

But overall, it might be the fans' fault that the series warranted so much hate. They made it out to be a CG before it even begun, and it resulted in a failure that can be called TGE greatest we had this year.

Still, try to watch on. This nit the worst of the season but definitely nit the best(Fate Zero, Mirai Nikki, Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai)

Cirris said:
WTF is it with GHQ leaders shooting people in the head for very little reason?!?

BTW someone asked who Keido(keigo) was. He's the head Researcher that Segai consults with and Haruka works under. I don't think he's related to Shu. Though he does seem to be at the age where he most likely worked with Shu's deceased father.

The more I watch this the more I realize that the whole premise of Guilty Crown is the slowly reverse engineer the backstory and plot until at the end they hope it'll all make sense.

Poor Hare. She's doing her best to get Shu to look her way, but it's no use. miss quiet and bland bubblegum haired girl has got Shu by the balls.

LightningRamiel said:
CHILDHOOD FRIEND ROUTE. ALL DAY ERR DAY.

Heck, truth be told I'm kinda backing any romance option BUT Inori. I don't know if it's because she's been "main" girl from the get-go, but she's just not that compelling at this point romance-wise. I'd much rather see Shu x Hare or Shu x Ayase get developed :/

Omegadark said:
Why do people still think Inori is a sex slave when 5 minutes later it clearly shows what they were doing, which was not sex.

GodlyKyon said:


I'll yell you why. It's nit much if a "sex slave". But more of a doormat slave in general to Gai. Everyone in the series is so gay for him besides Shu(the very reason why I like him).

Also, they COULD have had sex.

GodlyKyon said:


I'll yell you why. It's nit much if a "sex slave". But more of a doormat slave in general to Gai. Everyone in the series is so gay for him besides Shu(the very reason why I like him).

Also, they COULD have had sex.

Omegadark said:


You didn't have to yell, but honestly i think Gai is a good leader. Which is why everyone in the series is "gay" for him. Hes been shown to be able to solve pretty much any problem and make the most effective plans to maximize survival rates. Also after that episode of Gai telling Shu the way he really feels about being leader, it made me think of Gai as a pretty cool guy as did Shu.

Also, i'm almost positive that Inori is that other girl with pink hairs' clone or maybe her void or something. I also think that the pink hair girl is Gai's sister. Though i could be wrong.

Roloko said:


They could have, but they didn't. I don't think Shu is that type of character who would just randomly sleep with some girl he barely knows. He isn't Makoto here. xD

GodlyKyon said:
The directors has created a feeling that Inori is a sex slave doormat in our minds

GodlyKyon said:


I didn't want to do this but here we go:

gai is NOT a good leader.
he constantly risks his organization's survival rate by assigning dangerous missions that can get himself killed. and also, he always does reckless things that normally would just be for show off. he exposed himself to the public so easily, and shown his face to enemy headquarters millions of times. he could've gotten killed a thousand times over.
the infatuation his organization has over him is unexplained. everyone is so in love with him it's stupid. we needs to explain their reasons. usually 1 person does something so unhealthy for an organization he would've been blamed.



I was talking about Gai and Inori. that's waht everyone in the organization feels. and honest, do you think Inori would've refused if Gai told her to do that?

























If you answer was no, then there you go. The directors has created a feeling that Inori is a sex slave doormat in our minds

Omegadark said:


Every action has its risks,very few leaders are able to completely nullify the danger and finish missions with absolutely zero casualties.
The people in Funeral Parlor love him because out of everyone there, he is the best suited person to be leader. I believe he is the kind of man that would gladly step down from his position as leader if a person more suited wanted to be leader. A few episodes back it was also shown that Gai would gladly die for the sake of furthering his goal.
Another reason could be that Gai is a pretty smooth talker, as seen with how he talked to Ayase and Arisa.

As for showing himself to GHQ and putting himself out in the battlefield. He probably just doesn't care. Forgive me for comparing the two but, Osama Bin laden showed his face instead of remaining anonymous too.
Also whenever Gai is out on the battlefield he usually has a plan that ensures his survival, like in ep 2 with the kaleidoscope and lasers.

LightningRamiel said:

I don't know about any bed, but it's probably Yahiro's brother as the episode is probably his condition getting worse and Shu getting caught up in it (because of Gai?) and being forced to confront Yahiro.

Yumekichi11 said:
Ah yes Yahiro's brother. Then it could like this episode, a reconciliation and ultimatum that all can change even if they betrayed before.

I hope it will not be cliche but I doubt it. Ultimately Yahiro going back into the ranks with Shu would be nice but I am more interested what Yahiro's void has for functions.

octal9 said:
great episode - this show has really grown on me as it's proceeded - beautiful art, great romance, thrilling plot twists - shu seems to have really matured in this episode.

GodlyKyon said:

I'm too tired to answer this but I'm sure Osama didn't run up to a tank (endlave) and try to destroy it. Doesn't caring = bad leading. He needs to care, or else why establish this organization. In fact, why is it even made for? Why did the people join, were they just purely charmed by him?

Aol answer u later maybe.

Mephist said:

Sarcasm I assume?

SoFarGone said:
I have no idea what you guys are talking about. It was another boring episode. Unfortunately I'm still watching this in hopes of something good happen. It did have character development which is a good thing.