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| My oh my DAT CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT... I'm just really wondering what they're going to do with Mavrick... his smug look dropping Barnaby off right before his parents died bothered me. Anyways goood episode |
| Whoa there, this show just took an interesting turn. To be honest, I wasn't entirely sold on Kotetsu's thoughts of Mr. Legend - waiting for more information to surface rather than rely on the little that we had from his flashbacks/idolization. And I'm glad I did that; though this wasn't expected, especially from Lunatic - father and son? The irony. Wasn't a big fan of Lunatic either, if anything, he needed this episode to seem more believable - and it worked. As for theories on Maverick - judging from where the plot's taken us so far, it's highly probable that he's got his hands in it ; the question would be where he's got his heart - i.e motives. /Speculate. On a brighter note; fshdhdsjfdktjj- Tomoe <3 About time we get some of that, bittersweet & all~ |
SicJul 18, 2011 1:03 AM
Monad said: rurupoi said: Monad said: I agree with some others that Maverick seems especially suspicious now that we know that he even was with Barnaby the night his parents got killed. He may well be the one who hired that crazy guy to kill Barnaby's parents because he wanted maybe to stop there robot project since it could ruin his hero business and also wanted to use Barnaby as a hero. That would be an insane plot twist but entirely plausible! o.o Barnaby did mention that his parents were essentially trying to create Hero robots and Maverick seems to be quite the businessman... hmmmm... Wait when did Barnaby get his powers? Would Maverick have known Barnaby was a NEXT before his parents were killed? Yes very possible that he realized Barnaby was a NEXT early on and maybe even killed his parents before they even realized it. Also as the man on top of the hero TV business having a tone of hero robots will have ruined what he build so he will have a good reason to take them out of the way. Well according to Bunny he had them since he was a baby, and they had alot of trouble with him... of course that can't rule out the possibilty that he was misinformed |
| I'm still depressed about this episode more than 24 hours later. I don't think that's normal. *sigh* Monad said: So the whole Ouroboros thing was was red herring? I'd just assumed that it wasn't really Jake Martinez who killed Barnaby's parents, that's why he couldn't remember it. But this makes more sense.The fact that the guy who actually killed them doesn't even remember them and we got no explanation of his actions indicates that he was probably just hired to do a job and it wasn't something he personally cared and also that someone else had the real motive to kill them. *sob* More tears for Barnaby. |
Wayero said: Am I the only one on Lunatic's side? He reminds me of why I sometimes dislike Batman. Sure, you can't always appoint someone to be judge, jury, and executioner, but there are criminals out there that just don't deserve to live. They are nothing but a threat to society. I am sympathetic to Lunatic. He's become a bit of a JerkA** Woobie or Type V on the Sliding Scale of Anti-Heroes. I can understand Wayero's logic. I have even thought like him at one time when incensed over what I consider to be hideous slights against mankind. So far though, we've only seen Lunatic murder criminals that we presume/have been told are guilty and have little background information on. Maybe they are just as sympathetic? Were they all murderers as well? Should they all, regardless of the crime (robbery, domestic abuse, murders) receive death? Even then, a tortuous death by burning alive? That last kind of reminds me of the Salem Witch Trials but that is a bit of a tangent. I'm not opposed to the death penalty but I've come to the conclusion that I'd rather have fair trails & commensurate punishment that vigilante justice that may or may not have the right guy and punish them accordingly for the right crime. So, ditto Ani-Blast, Bwahahachick & AstuteOtaku. Archie74 said: more interested in seeing a 26 episode anime of Lunatic's story. I noticed that girl again, someone had mentioned her presence before, and there she was again at the "Hero Bar". Wonder what's up with that. They could totally make a spin off for Lunatic IMHO. Even though I like Tiger & Bunny, I think that it would have been more complex and interesting to have them as the side characters in Lunatic's story. It could pull a Xena on Hercules because of the morality issues that it would make people think about. Or maybe we just find anti-heroes more entertaining than boy scouts. Even Bunny's bent on revenge schtick failed to get satisfyingly dark enough. What girl? Do you have a time stamp for this episode and any others that she was in? I'd like to make the connection myself. I felt a little bad for suspecting how close Maverick was to the scene (like, why didn't he run in after hearing that loud sound Bunny heard as a child announcing the first death?) until I read that others like Buster and LaBrosephine were thinking similar things. windy said: Damnnnnnnn, shit went down. Kotetsu needs to tell Bunny what's up sooner rather than later. :/ He didn't tell him already? I figured that Bunny knew. It would be so irresponsible of Tiger to withhold that knowledge from his partner. In order for them to be a good team, they need to know both the strengths and limits on one another. I couldn't trust someone if I found out that they let me assume they could back me up for 5 mins but really couldn't do more than 4. I know that it is only a minute but that is a lot of time in a life or death situation. darkwintre said: Just a thought but what if Tyger isn't losing his powers, rather they're being transferred to barnaby? I can't help wondering why Barnaby has the same powers as Tyger and given that why he was partners with him save for the supposed experience as well as team up. BUT what if Barnaby is the result of a eugenics experiment involving Mr Legend and the reason Mr Legend was losing his powers was because they were transferred to the infant Barnaby which is why he gained his powers so young and the reason for the current team up is because Barnaby is going to lose his abilities unless he gets a fresh donor... namely Tyger! What do you think? Dude! You totally threw me for a loop! I actually thought about it for a minute. I have another theory. What if Tiger is just evolving, like he thought earlier before being told he was losing his powers? rurupoi said: Yes! I don't understand why T&B gets no love outside of Japan. D: This may sound odd but I think that because it is more like Western animation, enthusiasts of "pure" anime turn their noses up at it. I read a recent review that scoffed at the Western like animation in Tiger and Bunny. I personally think that both Western and Japanese animation have their gems so I wasn't put off by it but I know of some who are. |
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| i feel sorry for Kotetsu, is there a bitter-sweet ending i can see coming? or will every thing be splendid and happy at the end? i can't wait to see Kotetsu's family next week. i feel there is not enough information on his backround, i hope alot of great things are shown next week! but i saw some one in hospital, his mum? Rexky said: I'm hoping for TigerxBlueRose ending, with Kotetsu being the stay at home dad :D yeeehh that would be nice ^.^ i don't think it will happen unfortunately, there hasn't been enough focus on BlueRose and i think that proves that it will not happen. |
Cooperation-sanJul 18, 2011 1:19 PM
| im a sucker for super heroes and when i found out about tiger and bunny i just had to watch it! this episode was great, loved the twist. Also cant wait for next week when kotetsu is going back home. this show needs more love! |
| Great developments, the biggest one being Kira X (huh, Lunatic)'s character. |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| holy owo poor kotetsu why he isn't say anything to bunny trust him kotetsuuuu poor man I think he maybe should quit and be the father kaede needs in the other side wao for lunatic I mean he didn't turn a blind eye to bad people maybe killing his father wasn't the best way but well it just happened so whatever he moving along and decided to kill all the rats in the city XD I'm anxious about the other episode i wan't to see it already |
| Life is bittersweet can you live with that? |
| Maverick is so behind everything that happened to Bunny.. Lunatic is the most interesting character so far,the poor guy is going insane I hope he won't get killed by the end of the show ;__;.. And it seems that Tiger is getting jealous of Bunny success >,>'.. |
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| Wow deep episode, I never would have thought that Lunatic's past would be so interesting,especially who his father really is. Poor Kotetsu is losing his powers, I hope he doesn't quit :( I really love this anime so much i'm close into giving it a 10/10 now.I already want to would what's gonna happen next! |
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| Pretty amazing how this anime changed so quickly into a dark atmosphere. I think they timed it really well in the story with how Kotetsu is losing his powers just as Legend did. |
| Really nice that we got some insight into Lunatic's past. Also interesting that Legend lost his powers just as Kotetsu is now, certainly looking forward to the next ep :) |
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| Holy crap, this episode was really REALLY good. Lunatic is a great character. I am so loving this series. |
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| HOLY CRAP, THIS SHOW IS AWESOME. LUNATIC'S DAD IS LEGEND?!?!?!?! I NEVER would have seen that coming O_O Poor Kotetsu! T_T Brings up some good questions though ... like, what is he gonna do when his powers die? D; Crap, this show is too good T_T Well, I guess he can finally visit his daughter next episode ...? OMG, I love this show D: |
| Doooooooh Lunatic's father is Mr. Legend!? |
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| Well, while we are waiting, I got some more info on what's up and coming in T&B. (will be in spoiler tags but not overly revealing), and thank -KarumA- for providing translations. Summary for episode 16 From the new Hero Book That was agonizingly vague. Also it seems that Sunrise is gonna do what Sunrise does best. |
| Seen it coming before they removed the shadowy thingies. The car looks pretty weird and the dad looks fat and Lunatic's hair matches Legend's so I realized it was Mr.Legend before they revealed it. But man this anime is pretty good. |
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| Wow! Nice twist! |
| nice twist of story right there so lunatic's father is none other than mr legend that kotetsu is admiring and that mr legend has some sad past on how he handled his fading powers and eventually made lunatic become what he is right now |
| This is getting better. Plot twist FTW!! Mr. Legend as Lunatic's father definitely adds depth to his character. And so with Tiger.. About Maverick, it's clearly obvious what he did to Bunny's family but still there's no clear motive since the time he took Bunny in, he doesn't have any powers to take advantage from. |
| Oh wow, that was an amazing episode. Yuri's past was such a shock, and I feel really bad for him >: Can't believe that Mr. Legend was such a messed up person towards the end. It's honestly hard to be completely against Yuri's philosophy, but I still think he's a bit too extreme. And I agree with the people who mentioned Mr. Marverick as being suspicious. My first guess was that he might be connected to Ouroboros but the previous arc seems to show that that's not exactly the case. Still, he's not quite what he seems, imo. Poor Tiger's really going to go through some serious depression. |
 Znips: When Shay is born she just crawls back in the womb to shitpost for another year |
| I'm just going to leave this here. RECURSION! |
| lunatic's mother is annoying like fkk |
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| Tiger is losing his power's duration T.T Well I guess he will start to consider how precious his power is and he will start to use his brain more than his brawn. His daughter have a good future of being a hero as well =) |
| Cannot believe with Lunatic and Mr. Legend. |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
adamantine said: OH MY GOD THIS IS A QUALITY SHOW THIS A GENUINELY QUALITY SHOW MY MIND WAS BLOWN I HAVE NOT BEEN SURPRISED IN A VERY LONG TIME. I didn't care much about Yuri since his appearance but WOW was that deep. I never saw it coming. It was pretty sad too. Tiger and Yuri need a hug so badly now :c Now I'm sure I'm giving T&B a 10. |
| This episode rocked EVERYONE's world. Kotetsu's and everyone watching. Damn! Mr. Legend was really beating the sh*t out of his wife! Closed fist! I'm not surprised that Lunatic turned out rather screwed up. Then again, you could say he's somewhat well adjusted (penchant for vigilante murder aside). He's a dedicated, functioning member of society ...until he sees a NEXT abusing their powers. Plus, I don't really have sympathy for a serial killer. It would have been nice if Kotetsu hadn't screwed up, nearly gotten killed and let the guy get away, but seeing Lunatic give a him a painful death doesn't really hurt my heart either. Ghostlightning had a very good right up on this episode. You guys should check it out. http://ghostlightning.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/moral-authenticity-the-hero-tiger-bunny-16/  |
DonKangolJonesAug 16, 2011 9:36 AM
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| Whelp, this episode made me boost Tiger & Bunny from an 8 to a 9. However, the series is gonna have to do something really spectacular if it wants to make up for its lackluster first-third and earn a 10. |
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| This anime is really good ! The scenarists didn't just invented a basic story for the money and to please the sponsors ! Shit just got serious ! |
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| It really sucks to find out that Mr. Legend was actually like that it makes me sad and now i feel kinda bad for Lunatic D| (I have too much Empathy ) God Damn it kotetsu this is the third time your life has made me want to cry ;-; |
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| Did NOT see it coming that Lunatic is Mr Legend's kid and that Mr Legend was such a deadbeat that resorted to domestic assault. D: Holy shit. I guess that pretty much 100% guarantees that it will be a Tiger vs. Lunatic fight at the end, what with Tiger's backstory with Mr Legend. I feel pretty bad about Kotetsu. I mean, not only are his power declining, but now he's found out all this shit about his personal hero (heh), Mr Legend. If it were me I'd be seriously fucking depressed right about now. |
| Well, that was incredibly depressing. |
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| Lunatic is a very interesting character, I would like to know more about him. Also I have to say I feel very bad for Tiger. |
| HOLY SHIT. THAT WAS SUCH AN AMAZING EPISODE! |
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| This episode was absolutely amazing. |
| Wow... This episode was way better than the whole series so far. |
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| amazing episode :D though i thought Barnaby was the son of Mr Legend. i mean what could Lunatic had done? Legend might have killed his wife if he continues to beat her like that. wow i feel sorry for Lunatic :( im glad Lunatic destroyed that stupid fucker so Kotetsu is really losing his power like Mr Legend :( please don't end up like him!!! the next 9 episods are gonna be intense! |
| Yuri that sneaky bastard...sneaking his way into my heart, playing with my feels. Legend got what was coming for him, why did he hit his wife? Why did he take his frustrations on someone so helpless? He deserved to be punished. Yet again that ungrateful woman calls Yuri a demon, yet he still calls her mama... It's ironic how Kotetsu is slowly turning out to be a step closer to being like his /idol/ but I really hope Barnaby can stop that from happening! I wish someone bursts Kotetsu's bubble and tells him that his /idol/ was an ass [apologies for the word] who was pretty much a useless little shit who abused his wife! |
| WOW, just as I thought, that blonde guy IS Lunatic! Mr. Legend is his father? I didn't expect that! WOW WOW WOW just f*ckin' wow! When Tiger fell down from the building I thought he was going to die. ;A;/ I'm sorry about him, loosing his power, but now he can go home and spend time with his daughter. Was it she in the preview? She has grown up! ..and, is she pregnant? Is she sick? Because she was in bed. oO |
AileenWuornosOct 28, 2013 6:05 AM
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| Legend was Lunatic's father?! And Tiger is gradually losing his powers?! Now this is getting serious! Glad that Lunatic set the record straight and separated himself from the other heroes by admitting that he was not a hero and he has his own idea of justice. Too bad only one person heard him and he's dead. Looking forward to the next few episodes. |
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| Sad story, kinda feel bad for Lunatic... And Tiger. </3 |
| Who knew that Legend was an abusive father, i feel kind of bad for Lunatic. |
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