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Nov 24, 2010 4:31 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Awww! sai cried! T.T Im happy too that his brother finally got to see his picture. ♥ and call me crazy, but im happy to see Sasori again..haha.. i kinda like him ;D
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Nov 24, 2010 4:39 PM
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Glad Sai's brother finally got to see the picture.

I don't know if it'll work for all of them, but if each character completes some unfinished business, maybe they'll return to their Heaven or Hell.
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Nov 24, 2010 4:54 PM
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Nice chapter I guess, mainly cause I did find the puppet battle and Deidara's crazy shenanigans amusing.

I know most people are gonna like the emotional thing about unbinding Sai's brothers soul just cause he saw the pic, but its kind of a cop out, I mean is this foreshadowing to the other zombies, is Asuma gonna 'die' when he sees his son or Itachi when.......eh cant think of a good example, considering the mess Sasuke is.
Nov 24, 2010 4:55 PM
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The thing with Sai's brother is definitely going to piss off alot of people.

Even I had a problem with it and I'm always positive and optimistic when it comes to Naruto. Hater's are going to have a field day.

Anyways it was nice to see actual strategy and deception used to capture Sasori and Deidara. Rather than just attacking without a plan in mind.

Now we just need to wait and see what happens with that ressurected mist ninja.
Nov 24, 2010 4:56 PM
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Sai looked scary when he got pissed. Also cool to see how Kankurou has become strong even surpassing Sasori.

Score one for the good guys
Nov 24, 2010 5:09 PM
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Sai's rageface was epic.

Awesome chapter!
Nov 24, 2010 5:16 PM
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That was quick.. Im glad Sai's brother can rest in peace now. Im curious about what unfinished business Itachi has.. I know itll make me cry.
Nov 24, 2010 5:35 PM
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Sucks about Sasori though. I don't like that the lil puppet user thinks he's surpassed the big dog like that. The only reason they were able to take down Sasori is becasue he's a puppet technique user without any of his strongest pupperts (i.e. the Scorpion shell he hides in, 100 puppet warriors, former kazekage puppet, or his own puppet body). Beating him at this point without any real weapons to use makes him useless and pointless in this fight.
Nov 24, 2010 5:36 PM
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kevin_video said:

but if each character completes some unfinished business, maybe they'll return to their Heaven or Hell.


ye i guess that will be the pattern of this war
Nov 24, 2010 5:39 PM

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hmm i know its already mentioned here, but the idea of 'releasing' one's soul by fulfilling something could possibly work, though i dont know how the itachi is going to react upon seeing sasugay and his bromance with naruto, and man i cant wait to see nagato in action
Nov 24, 2010 5:48 PM

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Like other people said, its nice to see Sai's brother and to see Sai have some emotion for once. On the other hand, I'm kinda thrilled to see Kankuro beat Sasori. :D
Nov 24, 2010 5:49 PM

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i dont know how the itachi is going to react upon seeing sasugay and his bromance with naruto


Yeah, because they're so close as of late. Sarcasm aside, Itachi already gave Naruto something to stop Sasuke.


RedLunge said:
The thing with Sai's brother is definitely going to piss off alot of people.

Even I had a problem with it and I'm always positive and optimistic when it comes to Naruto. Hater's are going to have a field day.


Yeah I saw that straight away, it really doesn't make that much sense... His soul was bound by the talisman, I would've thought that only Kabuto / destroying said talisman would work.
Other than that, I'm quite saddened by remembering Sai was meant to replace Sasuke, we've had such little development for him so far and he really doesn't feel like part of the team, saying that, they haven't really been a "team" for a long time.
Nov 24, 2010 5:58 PM

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Shancakeschan said:
That was quick.. Im glad Sai's brother can rest in peace now.


Ya, I enjoyed that part of the chapter, especially when he was able to see Sai's picture.
Nov 24, 2010 6:36 PM

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That was meaningless
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Nov 24, 2010 7:09 PM

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Confucius said:
That was meaningless

I agree.

Sai's brother's soul was released?!?! WTF?!?!?!

And to beat those guys so quickly and easily?!?! I hope that wasn't all there is to this fight.

Nov 24, 2010 7:16 PM

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I personally liked it. Didn't have any Sauce-gay, so that was a plus, and had some touching Sai moments, which was also a plus. 4/5 :]

Nov 24, 2010 7:26 PM

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I guess Sasori's soul is the next one to be released ~

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Now we just need to wait and see what happens with that ressurected mist ninja.
Nov 24, 2010 7:30 PM

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Does anyone remember when Kankurou was pwnage?
Neither do I.
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Nov 24, 2010 7:47 PM

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Again, a cool fight but a lame conclusion. Nah, just kidding, the only lame part was the soul release of Sai's brother. It was good that they captured both Deidara and Sasori but I wonder what they'll do with them meanwhile.
Though this will cause more rage from the people reading here. Well, if this fulfilling the soul to release them is applied well then it wouldn't be so bad. Just don't let all of them fulfill their soul to release them, Kishi.
Nov 24, 2010 8:03 PM

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That was...an unexpectedly good chapter?
Didn't expect that after the latest events.

It's great to see Sai get enraged, but it's even better to see Kankuro pawning Sasori.
Good fights in this chapter, and it's great that a fight was wrapped in just a chapter. We'll need such pacing with all that's in store for us. But if the quality is that good, no problem for me. Although I'd rather not see any more soul releasing. That's way too cheap.
Nov 24, 2010 8:26 PM

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Again, a cool fight but a lame conclusion. Nah, just kidding, the only lame part was the soul release of Sai's brother. It was good that they captured both Deidara and Sasori but I wonder what they'll do with them meanwhile.
Though this will cause more rage from the people reading here. Well, if this fulfilling the soul to release them is applied well then it wouldn't be so bad. Just don't let all of them fulfill their soul to release them, Kishi.
It was a good chapter 'cause we still had a battle between people that resembled a bit ninjas, yet they're still overpowered... but not so much as Kabutomaru, or Madara... or Sauce.... anyway the battle between the Ambush Recon Teams! I loved the way everyone from the Nation's Alliance managed to do their stuff the right way... First of all Kankuro owning Sasori and recovering those poor guys from Sasori's control, Omoi blocking Deidara's super powerful bombings and Sai deleting his "bro'"s soul... That was a bit crappy... but if Kishi uses it well then we shouldn't worry... I hope everything will be alright for the chapters to come

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Nov 24, 2010 9:49 PM

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That's the first sai's angry face!!

Nov 24, 2010 9:50 PM

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SAI GOES EMO

*facepalm* Great, now that term is used very loosely AND is overrated!!

But wow, man, Sai's facial expression right there proves how much he changed from when he was first introduced. He's ENRAGED with emotion now!!! And it's funny how Kishimoto drew his face that way because in his more recent Naruto color illustration, he made brief commentary about one of his colored drawings from I think chapter 380 and that the weird, sketchy, realistic drawing style was the way he use to draw in his college days. Sai's facial expression slightly remind me of that.

And I gotta give props to Omoi getting over his nervous anxiety, or at least getting over it enough in time to battle (not that I've experienced war, but trust me when I say getting over any anxiety ain't easy, especially if you're enemies are pretty much, well, immortal). Though I'll admit, I wasn't quite sure what one of the ninja's meant when he said Deidara's techniques are deactivated with lightning chakra. But then it hit me about the cycle of the five elements and that lightning is weak against wind nature while strong agains earth nature.

I can tell that when this volume comes out in to the first 10 chapters of nothing but the 4th Ninja War, I'm REALLY gonna want to buy that volume. And the fact Kishimoto is making a war surprisingly doesn't sacrifice Kishimoto's artwork too much.
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Nov 24, 2010 10:47 PM

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Does anyone remember when Kankurou was pwnage?
Neither do I.


Most likely since he became the leader of the scout group or whatever group he's leading.

It's like he's like as smart as Shika now, knows the lightning weakness of Deidara, owns Sasori in seconds, and is like a genius level puppeteer. He's also able to give out patronizing lectures while kicking your ass too. How cheesy. It all seems too convenient, and i don't really buy it. Fuck Kankuro.. i want Temari(x Shika =] ) instead! Her power should be awesome in this war. One wave and the whole forest is gone already.. and that was before she powered up or anything either. I shudder to think of what she could do now.
Nov 24, 2010 11:07 PM

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Most likely since he became the leader of the scout group or whatever group he's leading.

Actually I think you mean the Ambush squad/platoon/group/division which Kankuro is the leader of. I think you mean scout group as in the sensory group, which Ao is the leader of. And by the way, Kankuro did take out both Sakon and Ukon of the Sound four while also saving Kiba.
Nov 25, 2010 12:05 AM
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Good chapter, but the whole soul release thing could get REALLY annoying. I didn't mind it so much this chap, but I never want to see it again. If Shikamaru's final fight turns into some half assed fight against Asuma where he's doesn't really want to fight him, and then just shows Asuma his kid and frees his soul I'm gona be pissed.
Nov 25, 2010 12:21 AM
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Wow deidara was funny as hell with his: 'Fuck it, i'm gonna suicide bomb their asses' he's such an artist

The thing with Sai's brother seemed a bit too short to get emotional for me. But it was fine.

Battle was a bit blurry at times but i liked how they used techniques and tactics again. Has been some time since i've seen that in Naruto. And i guess the only thing the zombie guys have working for them is that they are much harder to kill. Their actual strenght has declined quite a bit.

All in all a pretty nice fast paced chapter 4/5
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Nov 25, 2010 1:38 AM

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meh chapter, didnt really care about Sai or his brother

the rageface was epic though
Nov 25, 2010 1:38 AM

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Kankurou was pretty badass in this chapter. My only complain is the cliche "I saw your picture and now I'm free."

Nov 25, 2010 3:32 AM

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Oh sh**! Don't Mess with Sai!
Nov 25, 2010 4:21 AM

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It was okay. After this chapter the Ambush team seemed quite talented. The Shin part was a little bit cheesy. Deidara and Sasori seemed very weak because Sasori didn't had his puppets to rely on.
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Nov 25, 2010 5:08 AM

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lame chapter kishi always do a good job with the build up but his conclusion are so often lame/anticlimax ....
Nov 25, 2010 5:16 AM

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lame chapter kishi always do a good job with the build up but his conclusion are so often lame/anticlimax ....


Oda did the same thing :(
Nov 25, 2010 5:35 AM

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bskbob said:
lame chapter kishi always do a good job with the build up but his conclusion are so often lame/anticlimax ....


Oda did the same thing :(


qft ......
Nov 25, 2010 5:48 AM

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bskbob said:
lame chapter kishi always do a good job with the build up but his conclusion are so often lame/anticlimax ....

That is going to be the theme of this entire "war".
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Nov 25, 2010 6:40 AM

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SAI GOES EMO
Sai was always Emo, he was ROOT after all.
Nov 25, 2010 7:29 AM

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On one hand, I enjoyed the tactics and teamwork in this chapter. It's always nice to see a combination of techniques and not just POWER BLASTS defeating an enemy. On the other hand, it's really lame that Kishi had to EXPLAIN so many of the moves they were doing. They should've been shown with art, not words, since this is a fight. He should've spent more panels on this and drawn it out for two chapters. But I guess in real-time this was a really quick battle and many characters only realize what's happened after it's happened.
Sai's brother was a really bland character, but I didn't expect anything else.
Nov 25, 2010 7:54 AM

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Tbh I expected more from this chapter and overall for this arc. When did Kankurou became so powerfull he just defeats akatsuki like they are some weaklings lol. And Sai brother drama ugh " I seen your picture and now im free " WTF

3/5 just because Kankurou was badass but dunno where that come from lol
Nov 25, 2010 7:57 AM

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Tbh I expected more from this chapter and overall for this arc. When did Kankurou became so powerfull he just defeats akatsuki like they are some weaklings lol. And Sai brother drama ugh " I seen your picture and now im free " WTF

3/5 just because Kankurou was badass but dunno where that come from lol


As he said to Sasori: Sasori had become a puppet and not a puppetmaster, therein lies why he lost.
Deidara was just a team effort though.
Nov 25, 2010 9:24 AM

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1. Another apathy-spreading chapter just like a few others before.

2. SasukeItachiBrothersRedux Fight happens and SasukeItachiBrothersRedux2 fight happens. We get more anvils on how everyone in the good side are purely good and powerful and care about family and peace.

3. Akatsuki Fodder revived as Zombie Fodder is even more fodderized than their original appearances.

4. End of chapter. More anvils of shonen logic and bashing our head with ideals..meh.


Seriously, Naruto manga now feels like that cheap butter advert on tv - you look at it with apathy, it ends and you go "oh well, lets continue watching the show". Its clear that Kishi lost any sort of joy he ever had writing this stuff.

3/5
Nov 25, 2010 9:27 AM

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This chapter was pretty good. I liked the team dynamics, and Deidara was his usual crazy self.

I did roll my eyes when Sai's bro was freed because of the picture, but I guess it could have been a lot worse. It makes me wonder what will free the others...hopefully not something as cheesy XD
Nov 25, 2010 11:40 AM

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lol, Sai's rage ;D nice!

in this episode, you will die horribly... *laughs just as shion*
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Nov 25, 2010 12:53 PM

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"Seeing your drawing freed my soul from its binds." = FAIL
Nov 25, 2010 12:55 PM

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Seriously, Naruto manga now feels like that cheap butter advert on tv - you look at it with apathy, it ends and you go "oh well, lets continue watching the show". Its clear that Kishi lost any sort of joy he ever had writing this stuff.


you notice this now?
i noticed this since the arc after Pain...
Nov 25, 2010 1:03 PM

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I agree the Sai's brother soul release thing was gay, but the rest of the fight was pretty good and I have high hopes for this arc overall. I would give this chapter a 4 out of 5.
Nov 25, 2010 1:32 PM

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you notice this now?
i noticed this since the arc after Pain...


Oh but during that time, Kishi's writing actually felt like he BELIEVES in whatever stuff he is writing.

While that does not excuse for the crappy writing style, millions of sasuke/naruto/itachi/sakura rehashes and the anvil-dropping of shonen ideals, for all that was worth, it actually looked like Kishi is disillusioned into believing on what he was writing.

Like he sits down and decides to draw something that preaches peace and friendship and stuff...

Nowadays its like he sits down, writes whatever comes first to mind to get done with it and then forgets the manga even existed.


The inner outlook of "omg i am the most awesome manga writer ever and I am so talented" turned into "uhhhhhhhhh. lets fill those 17 pages with something and go get my paycheck....maybe."
Nov 25, 2010 1:33 PM

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Sai just proved that he is quite good as a replacement of Sasuke.
Nov 25, 2010 1:46 PM

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Sai just proved that he is quite good as a replacement of Sasuke.



oh but can he do a completely nonsensical rants while trying to pull off manic laughing to ?

Oh and Sai knows too many jutsus for that to work. He needs to forget all of them and get sharingan implant.



EDIT: is it just me....Or Sai looks like he has a hitler-mustache in that pic 8D
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