Seinen anime tends to be less well-received because itโs harder for some audiences to digest or relate to.
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May 13, 8:41 AM
#1
Title briefly states my statement. |
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May 13, 9:27 AM
#2
I don't think it's true that seinen anime are less relatable. |
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May 13, 9:31 AM
#3
you have to specify what seinen anime exactly, seinen anime are higly praised like lookt at kaguya sama, berserk 1997, orb, monster, oshi no ko, vinland saga, pluto and so much more, seinen is a demographic not specific genre. |
May 13, 9:34 AM
#4
Okay? Examples? And what do you mean by "less well-received"? As in, lower MAL ratings? |
May 13, 10:03 AM
#5
The main reason is the lower popularity. A lot of seinen manga could easily work in a shounen magazine too, but their anime adaptations won't get the budget and the resources to be animated and marketed as well as the most popular shounen. And let's not forget that lower popularity also means lower scores, since the % of casuals who rate everything higher among their watchers will be lower. Then if we talk about the seinen that wouldn't easily work just as well in a shounen magazine (e.g. CGDCT iyashikei or a fully adult main cast with no teenagers), it's true that they're less relatable to the average anime fan. |
May 13, 10:09 AM
#6
TLDR' ignore any threads made by subhuman yotsubafags who thinks "adopt & raise another mans heir" is profound and surely not astroturfed due to be being 4cucks mascot ๐ฟ |
May 13, 10:11 AM
#7
I think the main thing about this is that seinen is "unpopular" because comics'/manga's main draw is wildly fantastical scenarios without need for indepth and sometimes excessive detail (I love these things by the way) and something primal. I love works like Oishinbo, Umizaru, even to stuff like Food Wars and the manga about a Japanese American going on to become a US President and the golfing manga by the guy who did Lone Wolf and Cub, as well as Video Girl Ai, Weather Girl, Vagabond, and Blade of the Immortal, but I can bring up the fact that "reality" is not as cracked up to be, and that comics, even in Japan, but especially out west have less of a reader base than the younger crowd (although Japan still ousts the US adults comics reader market and crowd value quotient by kilometers). |
HokutoMumyoZanMay 13, 10:14 AM
May 13, 10:18 AM
#8
Seinen, shounen, and whatever other term for anime is bullshit, everything is slop. |
May 13, 10:34 AM
#9
zoomerReviewer said: TLDR' ignore any threads made by subhuman yotsubafags who thinks "adopt & raise another mans heir" is profound and surely not astroturfed due to be being 4cucks mascot ๐ฟ Oh wow, we’re really out here calling people subhuman over just anime opinions now?! That’s some next level emotional damage. All because someone thought the idea of “adopting and raising someone else’s heir” was… profound? I mean, maybe a little character development instead of just yelling BASED at every edge lord moment. Wild stuff. And calling it "astroturfed"? Yeah, you caught us; we're all part of the secret global anime fanbase conspiracy to make kindness look cool such as you. You cracked the code, lonely detective. Come on, report us to the anime CIA before we convince someone that empathy is a valid storytelling element. Also, calling anyone a “yotsubaf*gs” because they frequent a board or like a character? That’s the kind of galaxy-brain take that reminds everyone how seriously we should take internet rage comments. Anyway, I was going to keep going, but… Oh no, I forgot you don’t read long stuff- TL;DRs only, my bad. ๐ |
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May 13, 11:18 AM
#10
I doubted this at first, but then I checked the median score of each demographic in the MAL anime DB:
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ZarutakuMay 13, 2:29 PM
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
May 13, 11:36 AM
#11
Yet another attention seeking bait thread from nirererin. |
May 13, 11:43 AM
#12
Reply to Zarutaku
I doubted this at first, but then I checked the median score of each demographic in the MAL anime DB:
- Shounen = 7.14
- Seinen = 6.95
- Josei = 6.86
- Shoujo = 6.84
- Kodomo = 5.88
@Zarutaku I'd say seinen's doing pretty well for itself if it's the 2nd highest rated demographic. |
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May 13, 11:49 AM
#13
There are more controversy involved with Seinen (I include Seinen theme which isn't even tagged) compared to shounen. Due to more mature theme that's probably some reason. |
May 13, 1:26 PM
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May 13, 1:41 PM
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May 13, 2:23 PM
#16
Reply to LuxuriousHeart
@Zarutaku What about manga? Seinen manga tends to be rated higher than Seinen anime.
@LuxuriousHeart Manga-wise the median scores are:
Gaps are much more narrow and surprisingly Shoujo has the highest median. |
ZarutakuMay 13, 2:43 PM
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
May 13, 2:51 PM
#17
Reply to Zarutaku
@LuxuriousHeart Manga-wise the median scores are:
Gaps are much more narrow and surprisingly Shoujo has the highest median.
- Shoujo = 6.99
- Shounen = 6.98
- Seinen = 6.92
- Josei = 6.87
- Kodomo = 6.73
Gaps are much more narrow and surprisingly Shoujo has the highest median.
@Zarutaku That actually shocks me. The highest rated manga tend to be Seinen, and then Shounen. The median scores of Shounen and Seinen might be brought down by some drastic lows. In contrast, Shoujo might not score the highest, but they also don't score the lowest. Interesting numbers overall. |
May 13, 3:01 PM
#18
Reply to epidemia78
Seinen doesnt mean anything. Rozen Maiden is seinen...

It's a great show. Beautiful style and atmosphere. But there's nothing especially "adult male" about it. In fact, I think most people who go around bragging about being seinen fans would be repelled by it.
It's a great show. Beautiful style and atmosphere. But there's nothing especially "adult male" about it. In fact, I think most people who go around bragging about being seinen fans would be repelled by it.
@epidemia78 If it's a Seinen, then it's aimed at adult males. So it is for adult males. The demographics for girls and women are Shoujo and Josei. I notice an absence of those from your list btw... Only 3 Shoujo completed and a lot of dropped Shoujo. Only 1 completed Josei and a dropped Josei. Josei and Shoujo being your lowest scoring demographics. ๐ฌ |
May 13, 3:16 PM
#19
Reply to Zarutaku
@LuxuriousHeart Manga-wise the median scores are:
Gaps are much more narrow and surprisingly Shoujo has the highest median.
- Shoujo = 6.99
- Shounen = 6.98
- Seinen = 6.92
- Josei = 6.87
- Kodomo = 6.73
Gaps are much more narrow and surprisingly Shoujo has the highest median.
@Zarutaku Women generally are more open to reading manga. For men it is much nicher. |
May 13, 3:20 PM
#20
Seinen is doing pretty well this season with Shiunji ke and Kowloon. It scores pretty well too. Not seeing the issue. It is generally more popular than shoujo. Only really topped in popularity by Shounen which often is the default. Around 50-60% is shounen Around 20-25% of the top 100 is seinen Only 5-10% of the top 100 is shoujo 2-5% josei 2-5% kids |
rohan121May 13, 3:28 PM
May 13, 3:26 PM
#21
Reply to rohan121
@Zarutaku
Women generally are more open to reading manga. For men it is much nicher.
Women generally are more open to reading manga. For men it is much nicher.
@rohan121 Maybe, but this isn't a popularity ranking. |
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
May 13, 3:29 PM
#22
Your post is a pleonasm. And thus I have nothing to say here. It is harder for some audiences (Not X) digest or relate to work targetting audience X. It is harder for some audiences digest or relate to shoujo. It is harder for some audiences digest or relate to shounen. It is harder for some audiences digest or relate to kodomo. It is harder for some audiences digest or relate to josei. |
May 13, 3:30 PM
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May 13, 3:54 PM
#24
Reply to LuxuriousHeart
@epidemia78 If it's a Seinen, then it's aimed at adult males. So it is for adult males.
The demographics for girls and women are Shoujo and Josei. I notice an absence of those from your list btw... Only 3 Shoujo completed and a lot of dropped Shoujo. Only 1 completed Josei and a dropped Josei. Josei and Shoujo being your lowest scoring demographics. ๐ฌ
The demographics for girls and women are Shoujo and Josei. I notice an absence of those from your list btw... Only 3 Shoujo completed and a lot of dropped Shoujo. Only 1 completed Josei and a dropped Josei. Josei and Shoujo being your lowest scoring demographics. ๐ฌ
LuxuriousHeart said: The demographics for girls and women are Shoujo and Josei. I notice an absence of those from your list btw... Only 3 Shoujo completed and a lot of dropped Shoujo. Only 1 completed Josei and a dropped Josei. Josei and Shoujo being your lowest scoring demographics Yes I don't really care much for shojo. But I think Kobato basically counts as one. I freaking love Kobato. But there's only ten slots for favorites and Kobato isnt quite on the level of the others. Also theres 12 Kingdoms which might be the best anime ever made in my humble opinion. If not for one fatal flaw, the lack of a definitive ending and a lot of loose plot threads. Now 12 Kingdoms was published as a light novel which doesnt have meaningless demographic tags. If it was ever adapted to manga form, it'd be right at home in the shojo category, maybe even josei as it's quite a bit more mature than the usual anime. "Berserk for girls" I've heard it called and that sounds about right. |
May 13, 6:56 PM
#25
Reply to epidemia78
LuxuriousHeart said:
The demographics for girls and women are Shoujo and Josei. I notice an absence of those from your list btw... Only 3 Shoujo completed and a lot of dropped Shoujo. Only 1 completed Josei and a dropped Josei. Josei and Shoujo being your lowest scoring demographics
The demographics for girls and women are Shoujo and Josei. I notice an absence of those from your list btw... Only 3 Shoujo completed and a lot of dropped Shoujo. Only 1 completed Josei and a dropped Josei. Josei and Shoujo being your lowest scoring demographics
Yes I don't really care much for shojo. But I think Kobato basically counts as one. I freaking love Kobato. But there's only ten slots for favorites and Kobato isnt quite on the level of the others. Also theres 12 Kingdoms which might be the best anime ever made in my humble opinion. If not for one fatal flaw, the lack of a definitive ending and a lot of loose plot threads. Now 12 Kingdoms was published as a light novel which doesnt have meaningless demographic tags. If it was ever adapted to manga form, it'd be right at home in the shojo category, maybe even josei as it's quite a bit more mature than the usual anime. "Berserk for girls" I've heard it called and that sounds about right.
@epidemia78 Kobato is a Seinen, not a Shoujo. Obviously you don't care for Shoujo, because you drop them like a bad habit. The highest rated Shoujo is the one that Shounentards like for obvious reasons... Every other Shoujo has a low rank or has been dropped. You don't really care for any of the demographics other than Shounen, and some Seinen. So anime is perfect for you. Battle Shounen and some Seinen series. No idea why you think anime should be more than Shounen, when that's most of what you watch and like. ๐ |
May 13, 7:29 PM
#26
Reply to epidemia78
Seinen doesnt mean anything. Rozen Maiden is seinen...

It's a great show. Beautiful style and atmosphere. But there's nothing especially "adult male" about it. In fact, I think most people who go around bragging about being seinen fans would be repelled by it.
It's a great show. Beautiful style and atmosphere. But there's nothing especially "adult male" about it. In fact, I think most people who go around bragging about being seinen fans would be repelled by it.
epidemia78 said: But there's nothing especially "adult male" about it. That's mainly because the Rozen Maiden anime doesn't follow the manga. Which gives me an idea for a new thread. |
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May 13, 8:27 PM
#27
The medians don't look that much different between the 4 genres ? I find that seinen anime tend to be be less emotional, less theatrical or less dramatic than the other genres. They face the same problems as Slice-of-Life anime to me, boring to an extent. It must take real skill to make an interesting Seinen, to be both mature/deeper and fast-paced/attractive. Finding the right balance must be even trickier due to mature or adult themes, without resorting to full R-rated adult hooks. |
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May 13, 8:49 PM
#28
Reply to LuxuriousHeart
@epidemia78 Kobato is a Seinen, not a Shoujo. Obviously you don't care for Shoujo, because you drop them like a bad habit. The highest rated Shoujo is the one that Shounentards like for obvious reasons... Every other Shoujo has a low rank or has been dropped.
You don't really care for any of the demographics other than Shounen, and some Seinen. So anime is perfect for you. Battle Shounen and some Seinen series. No idea why you think anime should be more than Shounen, when that's most of what you watch and like. ๐
You don't really care for any of the demographics other than Shounen, and some Seinen. So anime is perfect for you. Battle Shounen and some Seinen series. No idea why you think anime should be more than Shounen, when that's most of what you watch and like. ๐
LuxuriousHeart said: Kobato is a Seinen, not a Shoujo. Kobato: Genres: Adventure, Fantasy, Romance Theme: Iyashikei But yeah it's totally seinen. Just look at this hard boiled cover art. ![]() ![]() ![]() You can tell Kobato is a force to be reckoned with on a quest for vengeance against the mob boss who murdered her family. |
May 13, 9:15 PM
#29
Reply to epidemia78
LuxuriousHeart said:
Kobato is a Seinen, not a Shoujo.
Kobato is a Seinen, not a Shoujo.
Kobato:
Genres: Adventure, Fantasy, Romance
Theme: Iyashikei
But yeah it's totally seinen. Just look at this hard boiled cover art.



You can tell Kobato is a force to be reckoned with on a quest for vengeance against the mob boss who murdered her family.
@epidemia78 Seinen does not mean edgy. There's Seinen that isn't dark or edgy: - Dance Dance Danseur - Medalist - Skip and Loafer - Haru and Ao's Lunchbox - etc Those are Seinen series. So is Kobato. Kobato was published in a Seinen magazine, therefore it's a Seinen. Do you assume that every Shoujo series is a wholesome series with a female protagonist? |
May 13, 9:18 PM
#30
Reply to Eldinis
The medians don't look that much different between the 4 genres ?
I find that seinen anime tend to be be less emotional, less theatrical or less dramatic than the other genres.
They face the same problems as Slice-of-Life anime to me, boring to an extent. It must take real skill to make an interesting Seinen, to be both mature/deeper and fast-paced/attractive. Finding the right balance must be even trickier due to mature or adult themes, without resorting to full R-rated adult hooks.
I find that seinen anime tend to be be less emotional, less theatrical or less dramatic than the other genres.
They face the same problems as Slice-of-Life anime to me, boring to an extent. It must take real skill to make an interesting Seinen, to be both mature/deeper and fast-paced/attractive. Finding the right balance must be even trickier due to mature or adult themes, without resorting to full R-rated adult hooks.
@Eldinis You have 35 Seinen rated a 7+ You clearly like Seinen as well... |
May 13, 9:36 PM
#31
Reply to LuxuriousHeart
@Eldinis You have 35 Seinen rated a 7+ You clearly like Seinen as well...
@LuxuriousHeart Funny, I've long wondered how many of my shows are Seinen, though 35 is small compared to 600 entries. How did you get that list? |
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May 14, 4:28 AM
#32
Anime is targeted towards a younger audience, nothing new there. So obviously the younger audience will not like or even be able to appreciate a "Seinen" show. Even if some did like or appreciate it, they would be the minority. So why would a studio make anime for the minority, it makes little sense. By the way this is coming from someone who loves Seinen. |
May 14, 4:38 AM
#33
That is a lot of anime for a 22 year old lol. How do you guys do it. |
May 14, 7:12 AM
#34
Reply to Eldinis
@LuxuriousHeart Funny, I've long wondered how many of my shows are Seinen, though 35 is small compared to 600 entries. How did you get that list?
@Eldinis > go to profile > click "all anime stats" > click "genres" (next to scores and anime) > click "demographics" and then click "genres" and "themes", so that only "demographics" has a blue checkmark next to it. > click the number next to Seinen. It's "49" so far. You have two Seinen series rated a 10. You don't seem to dislike it that much... You also generally like most of the Seinen series that you've watched, rating most of them at least a 7/10. |
May 14, 7:54 AM
#35
Reply to Eldinis
@LuxuriousHeart Funny, I've long wondered how many of my shows are Seinen, though 35 is small compared to 600 entries. How did you get that list?
@Eldinis You can search your profile on https://anime.plus |
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May 14, 8:08 AM
#36
Please stop creating threads about categories, and "demographics" or anything to do with whether an anime is "seinen" or "shounen" or whatever. All it does is start a thing where some robot comes in and tells someone else the anime they mentioned isn't really shounen, it's seinen in the database, or isn't seinen, it's shoujo in the database. It's not valuable. |
May 14, 2:46 PM
#37
Reply to LuxuriousHeart
@Eldinis
> go to profile
> click "all anime stats"
> click "genres" (next to scores and anime)
> click "demographics" and then click "genres" and "themes", so that only "demographics" has a blue checkmark next to it.
> click the number next to Seinen. It's "49" so far.
You have two Seinen series rated a 10. You don't seem to dislike it that much... You also generally like most of the Seinen series that you've watched, rating most of them at least a 7/10.
> go to profile
> click "all anime stats"
> click "genres" (next to scores and anime)
> click "demographics" and then click "genres" and "themes", so that only "demographics" has a blue checkmark next to it.
> click the number next to Seinen. It's "49" so far.
You have two Seinen series rated a 10. You don't seem to dislike it that much... You also generally like most of the Seinen series that you've watched, rating most of them at least a 7/10.
@LuxuriousHeart Thank you for the nice guide! I don't think I like Seinen more than other genres though. Some shows like Arte and 3-gatsu no Lion I might have rated 7 but I took the time to slowly watch them. They are not anime series I would be willing to re-watch anytime soon. That's what I call boring to an extent. I can recognize the quality of the material, yet find it boring. That's exactly why I rated 10 to Sousou no Frieren before dropping it after 12 episodes, and I'm not ready to go back soon to it anyway. Also, 7 has kinda been my default scoring for a long time, though I've tried to lean it towards 6 at times, it still tends to be my default rating. Now, if we look at the 8+ scores.. EIGHTS Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio's Movie : +1 compared to the season; yea it's a trend I tend to do. I'll never go back to that series, I watched and re-watched Kancolle which is better (to me) than this. D-Frag! : peak school comedy with childish over-the-top vibes Hanebado! : only there for the waifus obviously Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou : peak ecchi Saki : Saki is not just anime, it's manga, it's Hoyostar's Mahjong Soul collabs, it's a Discord server, all geared towards Mahjong. I've not been into Mahjong for a while now. But you can't say it's just the anime. Urara Meirochou : it's CGDCT before being a Seinen; been my training ground for reading raw manga Vinland Saga : sour notes on this one; i may have completed season 1, but this indefinite s2 on-hold status is suspicious; that's usually the sign I won't engage any further despite being rated 8 Witch Craft Works : peak school comedy again, with magical settings now INFLATION Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai : FOUR entries. Now, that's inflating numbers for Seinen. I like RomCom-s (no wonder). I do find Kaguya-sama less theatrical than other romcoms though. They are TOO CHILL in there. Except Chika, love you Chika ♥ Shadows House (9 and 10) : a friend dragged me along; who knows how much I would have rated or dropped this one otherwise Prison School (9) : Seinen Ecchi, unique in its genre Oshi no Ko (9 and 10) : Idol, and unique in its genre too Conclusion Yeah, I like some Seinen, just like I like some SoL. I don't see a pattern among them though. Those I liked, I either watched for the genres or the broader appeal, some of them you also find the same elements in Shonen. Thanks to the stats, I see comedy is my favorite genre, which includes D-Frag!, Prison School and Monster Musume. When you leave the comedy ground, seinen do tend to be boring (sorry it's my taste, I don't enjoy Vinland Saga or 3-gatsu that much; and they fit much more the idea I have of a Seinen than the others) I'm not sure how some of them are qualified to be mature like D-Frag with the childish elements, Saki with the shonen-like eponymous protagonist, or Urara Meirochou that could clearly be read and enjoyed by a seven-year-old. Those are toward adults but with clearly cute and childish vibes. I guess anything that doesn't fall into Kids/Shonen automatically gets labelled Seinen. I guess in the end, I like immature seinen and I dislike mature seinen. |
EldinisMay 14, 3:00 PM
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May 14, 4:03 PM
#38
Reply to Eldinis
@LuxuriousHeart Thank you for the nice guide!
I don't think I like Seinen more than other genres though.
Some shows like Arte and 3-gatsu no Lion I might have rated 7 but I took the time to slowly watch them. They are not anime series I would be willing to re-watch anytime soon. That's what I call boring to an extent. I can recognize the quality of the material, yet find it boring. That's exactly why I rated 10 to Sousou no Frieren before dropping it after 12 episodes, and I'm not ready to go back soon to it anyway.
Also, 7 has kinda been my default scoring for a long time, though I've tried to lean it towards 6 at times, it still tends to be my default rating. Now, if we look at the 8+ scores..
EIGHTS
Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio's Movie : +1 compared to the season; yea it's a trend I tend to do. I'll never go back to that series, I watched and re-watched Kancolle which is better (to me) than this.
D-Frag! : peak school comedy with childish over-the-top vibes
Hanebado! : only there for the waifus obviously
Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou : peak ecchi
Saki : Saki is not just anime, it's manga, it's Hoyostar's Mahjong Soul collabs, it's a Discord server, all geared towards Mahjong. I've not been into Mahjong for a while now. But you can't say it's just the anime.
Urara Meirochou : it's CGDCT before being a Seinen; been my training ground for reading raw manga
Vinland Saga : sour notes on this one; i may have completed season 1, but this indefinite s2 on-hold status is suspicious; that's usually the sign I won't engage any further despite being rated 8
Witch Craft Works : peak school comedy again, with magical settings now
INFLATION
Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai : FOUR entries. Now, that's inflating numbers for Seinen. I like RomCom-s (no wonder). I do find Kaguya-sama less theatrical than other romcoms though. They are TOO CHILL in there. Except Chika, love you Chika ♥
Shadows House (9 and 10) : a friend dragged me along; who knows how much I would have rated or dropped this one otherwise
Prison School (9) : Seinen Ecchi, unique in its genre
Oshi no Ko (9 and 10) : Idol, and unique in its genre too
Conclusion
Yeah, I like some Seinen, just like I like some SoL.
I don't see a pattern among them though. Those I liked, I either watched for the genres or the broader appeal, some of them you also find the same elements in Shonen.
Thanks to the stats, I see comedy is my favorite genre, which includes D-Frag!, Prison School and Monster Musume. When you leave the comedy ground, seinen do tend to be boring (sorry it's my taste, I don't enjoy Vinland Saga or 3-gatsu that much; and they fit much more the idea I have of a Seinen than the others)
I'm not sure how some of them are qualified to be mature like D-Frag with the childish elements, Saki with the shonen-like eponymous protagonist, or Urara Meirochou that could clearly be read and enjoyed by a seven-year-old. Those are toward adults but with clearly cute and childish vibes. I guess anything that doesn't fall into Kids/Shonen automatically gets labelled Seinen.
I guess in the end, I like immature seinen and I dislike mature seinen.
I don't think I like Seinen more than other genres though.
Some shows like Arte and 3-gatsu no Lion I might have rated 7 but I took the time to slowly watch them. They are not anime series I would be willing to re-watch anytime soon. That's what I call boring to an extent. I can recognize the quality of the material, yet find it boring. That's exactly why I rated 10 to Sousou no Frieren before dropping it after 12 episodes, and I'm not ready to go back soon to it anyway.
Also, 7 has kinda been my default scoring for a long time, though I've tried to lean it towards 6 at times, it still tends to be my default rating. Now, if we look at the 8+ scores..
EIGHTS
Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio's Movie : +1 compared to the season; yea it's a trend I tend to do. I'll never go back to that series, I watched and re-watched Kancolle which is better (to me) than this.
D-Frag! : peak school comedy with childish over-the-top vibes
Hanebado! : only there for the waifus obviously
Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou : peak ecchi
Saki : Saki is not just anime, it's manga, it's Hoyostar's Mahjong Soul collabs, it's a Discord server, all geared towards Mahjong. I've not been into Mahjong for a while now. But you can't say it's just the anime.
Urara Meirochou : it's CGDCT before being a Seinen; been my training ground for reading raw manga
Vinland Saga : sour notes on this one; i may have completed season 1, but this indefinite s2 on-hold status is suspicious; that's usually the sign I won't engage any further despite being rated 8
Witch Craft Works : peak school comedy again, with magical settings now
INFLATION
Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai : FOUR entries. Now, that's inflating numbers for Seinen. I like RomCom-s (no wonder). I do find Kaguya-sama less theatrical than other romcoms though. They are TOO CHILL in there. Except Chika, love you Chika ♥
Shadows House (9 and 10) : a friend dragged me along; who knows how much I would have rated or dropped this one otherwise
Prison School (9) : Seinen Ecchi, unique in its genre
Oshi no Ko (9 and 10) : Idol, and unique in its genre too
Conclusion
Yeah, I like some Seinen, just like I like some SoL.
I don't see a pattern among them though. Those I liked, I either watched for the genres or the broader appeal, some of them you also find the same elements in Shonen.
Thanks to the stats, I see comedy is my favorite genre, which includes D-Frag!, Prison School and Monster Musume. When you leave the comedy ground, seinen do tend to be boring (sorry it's my taste, I don't enjoy Vinland Saga or 3-gatsu that much; and they fit much more the idea I have of a Seinen than the others)
I'm not sure how some of them are qualified to be mature like D-Frag with the childish elements, Saki with the shonen-like eponymous protagonist, or Urara Meirochou that could clearly be read and enjoyed by a seven-year-old. Those are toward adults but with clearly cute and childish vibes. I guess anything that doesn't fall into Kids/Shonen automatically gets labelled Seinen.
I guess in the end, I like immature seinen and I dislike mature seinen.
Eldinis said: Those I liked, I either watched for the genres or the broader appeal, some of them you also find the same elements in Shonen. Almost like demographics are just that... Demographics, and not genres... And if you think that ecchi Seinen is rare, then... I'll just say that ecchi Seinen is as rare as Josei smut. |
May 14, 4:42 PM
#39
May 15, 4:29 AM
#40
Reply to epidemia78
LuxuriousHeart said:
Kobato is a Seinen, not a Shoujo.
Kobato is a Seinen, not a Shoujo.
Kobato:
Genres: Adventure, Fantasy, Romance
Theme: Iyashikei
But yeah it's totally seinen. Just look at this hard boiled cover art.



You can tell Kobato is a force to be reckoned with on a quest for vengeance against the mob boss who murdered her family.
@epidemia78 don't argue with the retard. they will say kusuryiya is not for women. being published in a seinen magazine simply means seinen magazines are better than shoujo ones because they are able to accomodate all audiences while shoujo circles are pretty much circlejerks. female authors have realised the key to success is writing for a shounen or seinen magazine to reach a real audience who has taste. |
May 15, 4:45 AM
#41
Reply to zoomerReviewer
@epidemia78 don't argue with the retard. they will say kusuryiya is not for women. being published in a seinen magazine simply means seinen magazines are better than shoujo ones because they are able to accomodate all audiences while shoujo circles are pretty much circlejerks. female authors have realised the key to success is writing for a shounen or seinen magazine to reach a real audience who has taste.
@zoomerReviewer Now you're stalking me? Obsessed much? How would you know what Shoujo is good at? You haven't read or watched any. |
May 15, 4:49 AM
#42
Reply to LuxuriousHeart
@zoomerReviewer Now you're stalking me? Obsessed much?
How would you know what Shoujo is good at? You haven't read or watched any.
How would you know what Shoujo is good at? You haven't read or watched any.
@LuxuriousHeart im not the one purity checking lists lil bro. no one needs to watch shoujo to know how much grooming and problematic shit is in it |
May 15, 5:09 AM
#43
Reply to zoomerReviewer
TLDR' ignore any threads made by subhuman yotsubafags who thinks "adopt & raise another mans heir" is profound and surely not astroturfed due to be being 4cucks mascot ๐ฟ
@zoomerReviewer as if bocchi the rock isnt yet another mid high school girl band anime that got astroturfed up as a meme |
May 15, 6:31 AM
#44
Seinen anime just doesn’t get the same hype that generic shounen shows usually do. |
๐๐ธ๐ป๐๐ช๐ป๐ญ ๐ฒ๐ผ ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐๐ช๐..... |
May 15, 6:34 AM
#45
Reply to perseii
Okay? Examples?
And what do you mean by "less well-received"? As in, lower MAL ratings?
And what do you mean by "less well-received"? As in, lower MAL ratings?
@perseii Yeah, for example, shows like Monster or Vinland Saga (especially S2) are critically praised but don’t get nearly the same hype or buzz as something like JJK or Demon Slayer. And by "less well-received," I meant more in terms of general popularity or mainstream attention, not necessarily MAL scores, since those can still be high. It's more about how much people talk about it or how viral it gets. |
๐๐ธ๐ป๐๐ช๐ป๐ญ ๐ฒ๐ผ ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐๐ช๐..... |
May 15, 7:17 AM
#46
Reply to nirererin
@perseii Yeah, for example, shows like Monster or Vinland Saga (especially S2) are critically praised but don’t get nearly the same hype or buzz as something like JJK or Demon Slayer.
And by "less well-received," I meant more in terms of general popularity or mainstream attention, not necessarily MAL scores, since those can still be high. It's more about how much people talk about it or how viral it gets.
And by "less well-received," I meant more in terms of general popularity or mainstream attention, not necessarily MAL scores, since those can still be high. It's more about how much people talk about it or how viral it gets.
@nirererin the reason battle shounen go viral is because it is easy to create a ticktok presenting a badass fight scene. It is quite difficult to sell an audience on an anime about a dude realizing the earth has actually been moving all the time. |
May 15, 7:21 AM
#47
Reply to zoomerReviewer
@LuxuriousHeart im not the one purity checking lists lil bro. no one needs to watch shoujo to know how much grooming and problematic shit is in it
@zoomerReviewer zoomerReviewer said: no one needs to watch shoujo to know how much grooming and problematic shit is in it this sounds like a statement a normie would make about anime in general |
May 15, 7:33 AM
#48
"Seinen" Anime don't exist. If you're talking about anime adaptations of seinen manga, then train of thought only hold some water because Monster and Vinland Saga are treated like second coming of christ, only that their purple-patch popularity was astroturfed by terminally-online sheep, who only watch stuff they are told is "good" by the discourse™. Just a new form of snobism. |
May 15, 7:39 AM
#49
Reply to Hiyajo-san
@zoomerReviewer
this sounds like a statement a normie would make about anime in general
zoomerReviewer said:
no one needs to watch shoujo to know how much grooming and problematic shit is in it
no one needs to watch shoujo to know how much grooming and problematic shit is in it
this sounds like a statement a normie would make about anime in general
Trvth acorn |
May 15, 8:32 AM
#50
Because the average anime audience is younger and seinen is aimed at more mature people.That's why younger people don't watch seinen very often. |
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