Criticism You Don't Understand.

@LSSJ_Gaming

I would not say anything I hate.

"being aware of social issues"

This alone isn't bad.

It's bad when it is shoehorned into media.

Having a lgbt character? not a bad thing

having a lgbt character purely for "being aware of social issues", or changing a none lbtq character to become one for "being aware of social issues" is a bad thing.


My favourite voice actor is a gay man, and one of my all time favourite characters is bi. And on top of that, him being Bi is one of the reasons for why I love him. If he wasn't bi it would make his character worse!!!

and the fact that I'm saying that just goes to show being bi is not a thing that they added to him for the hell of it.

(I didn't say the character cause if you know who it is, it will ruin a twist for you, but I will say that he is from black sails.)

"Criticism You Don't Understand."

"Don't understand" or "don't like"?

Because I pretty much can get why people dislike certain things, without them telling much: not enough cheesy melodrama, the characterizations aren't as bloated as they are used to or lack of hype. This is because the big hits have conditioned them to like certain traits like the coitus interruptus of a flashback inside of a big battle or that that the MC should be impossibly obnoxious (because this is supposed the be relatable) ect.

So, no matter what the wording of a criticism is, it boils down to two thigs A) "Its wasn't in the format I was expecting." B) "This is not popular enough, thus there must me something wrong with it.".

PS
I forgot one of the most essential one: C) "This is way too popular than it deserves.".
Like who cares? If you are enjoyed in to a lesser degree, that's still joy, right? Why you should be bothered that it's a bit overrated? And if you dislike it simply say so!

I agree with a decent amount of what I read on this topic.
The ones I don't understand or disagree the most with in general are the 'bad animation' ones or the 'this entire genre is boring/sucks' ones.

@APolygons2 In before this inevitably gets locked, I mostly agree with you with some things I'd like to add.

In the case of Scooby doo, I wasn't the biggest fan of Mystery Incorporated (2010), particularly their iteration of Velma. She was just too different from the ones I grew up with and that is my nostalgia talking. But I can understand why so many people love that version of her. She's a good example of a balanced mix between making a new character while staying loyal to the original in the right departments. Comparing that to the latest Velma-it just doesn't work. And contrary to the outrage clickbait yappers on youtube, it's not her race. Her and the rest of the gang feel like they grabbed random people off the street, made them do cosplay and instructed them to be as insufferable as they can. That's not how you do a new take on a preexisting series.

Although with the Little mermaid, I see why not make the character a different race. But why not expand on it then? Make the story your own while paying homage to the og. Make it seem like it's a version of the og from another universe or point of view and not a half assed painted over copypaste (making the story as close to the og but Ariel is black and that's it). Black or trans or whatever character don't have to and shouldn't be just in the background because the writers can't do them justice.

Just throwing something in with nothing behind the thought (in these cases lgbt+ or folks of colour) is almost as damaging as those gross and dehumanizing caricatures people post on reddit and think they're funny.

"This translation is slightly rephrased from the original Japanese, therefore it is complete trash and is innacurate, and translators should fucking die and be replaced by robots"- half the fandom rn

The "criticism" that Izumi from Shikimori's Not Just a Cutie faced. Granted, I had my own criticisms of both Izumi and the anime itself, but most of the criticisms I saw from others was focused on Izumi, particularly because he doesn't fit their idea of a guy in a relationship I guess. This is something you can see with characters similar to Izumi, where most people hate the character simply because he doesn't act like the "dominant" one in the relationship. There's a lot more to it and you'd have to go to the episode discussions and see for yourself because it's hard to properly put into my own words.

Along the same vein, I don't understand people who don't know what they want from a character. They get upset when they don't think with their dicks and start having sex with every girl in sight, but they also get upset when characters act exactly like that. You can see this best with Kazuya from KanoKari, but he's a special case I think.

Finally, I don't understand why the first criticism for romcom MCs is "self-insert." I'm not going to pretend that there's not romcom with main characters that are essentially meant to be a self-insert, but it seems ever MC is labeled a self-insert, even the good ones. An example would be Gojou from My Dress Up Darling. I've never seen this description for Gojou outside of twitter though, so maybe it's just contained there.

These are just a few that I'm confused with, but for some of the other ones I have I'm having a hard time wording my complaints in a way that doesn't make it seem like they rile me up.

Really? after all that I said this what you took from It?

So don't pretend like this is the case, you are just putting everyone in the category to make them seem unreasonable. If you actually listened, you would know that none of the things I said have anything to do with being "against" being progressive.

You are just as unreasonable as the people you hate if you really genuinely think, that was the point of my argument

@APolygons2 You have two completely incompatible viewpoints. They think representation should be prioritized because it can have meaningful change in society, and you think this viewpoint shouldn't trump writing actual good characters/stories in the media that's supposed to entertain us. Those types would find your concerns frivolous by comparison, and judge you for not championing diversity, instead aligning with bigots, even if it's to the detriment of said media. However, I will say that it's true certain groups will shout "woke" at any sort of "marginalized" representation, whether it's forced or not. That doesn't mean that woke ideology isn't very much a thing when it comes to media, though.

It is not rational nor Fair to judge BNHA based on the "Gay Shipping" fandom that I recently learned about despite being an avid an for all this years.
It's not logical to say "it's Shounen so it's for braindead kids" either,or even worse, attacking the user and spam calling him names just because of it .
It is an anime that exceeds the highest interdimensional peaks <3