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armchair3 said: There are some leaks from the newest Aka's interview that he'd like to write a spin-off soon. We'll see if it's true So he got rid of the original story as quickly as possible to write a spin-off? Sounds pretty weird, but if it gives Miko and Ishigami a normal ending and solves the rest of the story's problems, I don't mind. tywhoppity said: Kaguya won the last chapter, but Shirogane didn't mind. I shall miss it. Didn't she win it initially when Shirogane confessed to her at the end of the festival arc? |
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RobertBobert said: armchair3 said: There are some leaks from the newest Aka's interview that he'd like to write a spin-off soon. We'll see if it's true So he got rid of the original story as quickly as possible to write a spin-off? Sounds pretty weird, but if it gives Miko and Ishigami a normal ending and solves the rest of the story's problems, I don't mind. tywhoppity said: Kaguya won the last chapter, but Shirogane didn't mind. I shall miss it. Didn't she win it initially when Shirogane confessed to her at the end of the festival arc? Believe it or not, the author retconned that counting as a confession. So actually it was Kaguya who confessed to Shirogane (in the authors mind). Many fans argue about this, but in chapter 167 when prodded about it by Kashiwagi, Kaguya tells her the one to confess was her. And yes its non-sensical considering Ishigami's counted as a confession (in canon) to Tsubame. |
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RobertBobert said: tywhoppity said: Kaguya won the last chapter, but Shirogane didn't mind. I shall miss it. Didn't she win it initially when Shirogane confessed to her at the end of the festival arc? Technically, she won because he did confess first, but since she gave him the ol' liplock with tongue, I'll call it a tie..... :' ) |
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hyperknees91 said: RobertBobert said: So he got rid of the original story as quickly as possible to write a spin-off? Sounds pretty weird, but if it gives Miko and Ishigami a normal ending and solves the rest of the story's problems, I don't mind. Didn't she win it initially when Shirogane confessed to her at the end of the festival arc? Believe it or not, the author retconned that counting as a confession. So actually it was Kaguya who confessed to Shirogane (in the authors mind). Many fans argue about this, but in chapter 167 when prodded about it by Kashiwagi, Kaguya tells her the one to confess was her. And yes its non-sensical considering Ishigami's counted as a confession (in canon) to Tsubame. I just don't get the point. From the very beginning, one of the main messages was criticism of the "honor before reason" mentality. But now it has really become important who confesses to whom? Well, there are indeed moments in the final arc that were left out. Starting with the uselessness of The Mikado, which we discussed, and ending with some hints (?) in the final arc. For example, I still remember the shot where Hayasaka hints that there was some happy event in her life, but which she keeps secret from others. Maybe it was really intentional and Aka just wants to make a spin-off that would develop Kaguya's universe and at the same time not be as forced for him as the last arcs of the original story? |
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| Man, I don't know how I feel about Kaguya-sama, from someone who sceptical of why it was hugely popular when i heard about it the manga with an anime announcement years ago to someone who truly understand the plethora of the characters and dynamics of the interactions with each other, i know the start feels a bit childish but later on it gets more serious, to point where I was pulled in even further into the mix of situations of what the characters feel. 7 years of serialisation have finally come to an end and couldn't be more happy about the ending. I know endings can make or break a series but this was a perfect way to end it. I'm gunna miss reading Kaguya-sama. Today's Battle Result: Kaguya Wins, but Shirogane didn't mind it but I would say Student Council Wins overall. 9/10 |
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RobertBobert said: hyperknees91 said: Believe it or not, the author retconned that counting as a confession. So actually it was Kaguya who confessed to Shirogane (in the authors mind). Many fans argue about this, but in chapter 167 when prodded about it by Kashiwagi, Kaguya tells her the one to confess was her. And yes its non-sensical considering Ishigami's counted as a confession (in canon) to Tsubame. I just don't get the point. From the very beginning, one of the main messages was criticism of the "honor before reason" mentality. But now it has really become important who confesses to whom? Well, there are indeed moments in the final arc that were left out. Starting with the uselessness of The Mikado, which we discussed, and ending with some hints (?) in the final arc. For example, I still remember the shot where Hayasaka hints that there was some happy event in her life, but which she keeps secret from others. Maybe it was really intentional and Aka just wants to make a spin-off that would develop Kaguya's universe and at the same time not be as forced for him as the last arcs of the original story? That is because the author started to care more about character quirkyness/being entertaining over telling a defined character arc (pandering). Hence why in this final chapter he still has Miyuki/Kaguya playing mind games even though the message of the series should be about communicating your feelings to one another properly as people aren't mind readers (also why Ishigami/Iino's conclusion is terrible, as it means they really are just falling into the same trap as their senpai's). I don't think Aka is planning a spin-off or was ever planning it. I think he just knows he has several dropped plot points and just wants to mitigate criticism against him. At the end of the day, if he had more story to tell, he would have done it in his main work. At the moment he screams as someone who is completely burned out by this manga. |
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hyperknees91 said: RobertBobert said: I just don't get the point. From the very beginning, one of the main messages was criticism of the "honor before reason" mentality. But now it has really become important who confesses to whom? Well, there are indeed moments in the final arc that were left out. Starting with the uselessness of The Mikado, which we discussed, and ending with some hints (?) in the final arc. For example, I still remember the shot where Hayasaka hints that there was some happy event in her life, but which she keeps secret from others. Maybe it was really intentional and Aka just wants to make a spin-off that would develop Kaguya's universe and at the same time not be as forced for him as the last arcs of the original story? That is because the author started to care more about character quirkyness/being entertaining over telling a defined character arc (pandering). Hence why in this final chapter he still has Miyuki/Kaguya playing mind games even though the message of the series should be about communicating your feelings to one another properly as people aren't mind readers (also why Ishigami/Iino's conclusion is terrible, as it means they really are just falling into the same trap as their senpai's). I don't think Aka is planning a spin-off or was ever planning it. I think he just knows he has several dropped plot points and just wants to mitigate criticism against him. At the end of the day, if he had more story to tell, he would have done it in his main work. At the moment he screams as someone who is completely burned out by this manga. Does it really get any criticism from the original audience? And do you think that Kaguya really got to the point where Aka began to pander to the audience instead of letting the story unfold according to her own logic? I mean, he never went along with these or those fans in some areas. For example, he teased that Erica reciprocated feeling of one of Miyuki's friends instead of hooking up with Karen as many wanted (especially after the theories that she was a lesbian due to crush on Kaguya). And then all this shit with Chika and Ai, although many have already managed to believe that they're a couple. |
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| What an amazing ending, still sad this ended 🥺 This was and will be one of my favourite romance Manga of all time 😭 |
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RobertBobert said: hyperknees91 said: That is because the author started to care more about character quirkyness/being entertaining over telling a defined character arc (pandering). Hence why in this final chapter he still has Miyuki/Kaguya playing mind games even though the message of the series should be about communicating your feelings to one another properly as people aren't mind readers (also why Ishigami/Iino's conclusion is terrible, as it means they really are just falling into the same trap as their senpai's). I don't think Aka is planning a spin-off or was ever planning it. I think he just knows he has several dropped plot points and just wants to mitigate criticism against him. At the end of the day, if he had more story to tell, he would have done it in his main work. At the moment he screams as someone who is completely burned out by this manga. Does it really get any criticism from the original audience? And do you think that Kaguya really got to the point where Aka began to pander to the audience instead of letting the story unfold according to her own logic? I mean, he never went along with these or those fans in some areas. For example, he teased that Erica reciprocated feeling of one of Miyuki's friends instead of hooking up with Karen as many wanted (especially after the theories that she was a lesbian due to crush on Kaguya). And then all this shit with Chika and Ai, although many have already managed to believe that they're a couple. Yep, the Osaragi arc was under a lot of heat (especially the chapter where Kaguya lectures Iino). If you're wondering if he cut off that arc early...yes he probably did. Apparently chapter 246 was another where he got blasted...hence why all the events in it swiftly get ignored. Other than that I tend to not look too deeply in japanese fan reaction in general. But by pandering, I just meant he tried to return the series to its roots for the last 20 chapters, even if it meant disregarding the story. Hayasaka and Fujiwara felt more like misdirection to distract people to showcase he had no plans for either character. |
| So it has finally ended. One of the best rom-com from the mid-2010s ended happily. In full thought, the series definitely dragged and some of the dramas could've been toned down a bit. The series also started pandering to its audience too much, which really says something about the condition that the series was in. For people that have Kaguya as a first-ever rom-com, the problems might not be apparent, but for me, who has gone through multiple ones--including Oregairu---the many problems that I had with Oregairu is here too. |
hyperknees91 said: RobertBobert said: Does it really get any criticism from the original audience? And do you think that Kaguya really got to the point where Aka began to pander to the audience instead of letting the story unfold according to her own logic? I mean, he never went along with these or those fans in some areas. For example, he teased that Erica reciprocated feeling of one of Miyuki's friends instead of hooking up with Karen as many wanted (especially after the theories that she was a lesbian due to crush on Kaguya). And then all this shit with Chika and Ai, although many have already managed to believe that they're a couple. Yep, the Osaragi arc was under a lot of heat (especially the chapter where Kaguya lectures Iino). If you're wondering if he cut off that arc early...yes he probably did. Apparently chapter 246 was another where he got blasted...hence why all the events in it swiftly get ignored. Other than that I tend to not look too deeply in japanese fan reaction in general. But by pandering, I just meant he tried to return the series to its roots for the last 20 chapters, even if it meant disregarding the story. Hayasaka and Fujiwara felt more like misdirection to distract people to showcase he had no plans for either character. Well, if we are talking about Aka, then the girl who helps him write Oshi no Ko has already been in a situation where she was forced to write an epilogue volume and actually rewrite the ending of one of the characters due to heavy criticism from Japanese fans on Twitter. That was one of the first things that made me feel salty about this manga. Obviously this was something of a manzai comedy, but since both characters are extremely popular, it literally spawned an army of extremely obsessed fans who were almost literally interested in any appearance of Chika or Ai only from the point of view of their ship. Even the manga's fan sub team was affected by this. |
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| Man, I did not expect this final chapter to drop today, that's an unexpected sniper shot straight to the heart. I am in pain. Can't imagine the feeling, if I had read the series from when it released, I only started reading before season 2 dropped. I am sure it would have been even more sadder and bittersweet. Regardless of the ups and downs, I mean it's mostly ups if we're being honest. This is one of the best series I have ever had the pleasure of reading/watching. If we're talking rom-coms though, this is hands down the top, well, for now, I'll always welcome something even better in the future, if that even is possible. I cried, definitely choked when I saw those all too familiar locations. I had the biggest smile on my face though the moment Kaguya said she wants to make Miyuki propose. Never change you two, never change. The whole graduating class congratulating Miyuki was also a tear worthy moment, and of course let's not forget our very last "O kawaii koto", God. I am gonna miss this series so much, my weeks are never gonna be the same. At least we still have the anime to look forward to, as long as we get a full adaptation. I can start Oshi no ko now, though I'll probably wait for the anime first. Besides Oshi no ko, can't wait to see the other things Aka is gonna be cooking. 10/10 |
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sKyBlazer08 said: Man, I did not expect this final chapter to drop today, that's an unexpected sniper shot straight to the heart. I am in pain. Can't imagine the feeling, if I had read the series from when it released, I only started reading before season 2 dropped. I am sure it would have been even more sadder and bittersweet. Regardless of the ups and downs, I mean it's mostly ups if we're being honest. This is one of the best series I have ever had the pleasure of reading/watching. If we're talking rom-coms though, this is hands down the top, well, for now, I'll always welcome something even better in the future, if that even is possible. I cried, definitely choked when I saw those all too familiar locations. I had the biggest smile on my face though the moment Kaguya said she wants to make Miyuki propose. Never change you two, never change. The whole graduating class congratulating Miyuki was also a tear worthy moment, and of course let's not forget our very last "O kawaii koto", God. I am gonna miss this series so much, my weeks are never gonna be the same. At least we still have the anime to look forward to, as long as we get a full adaptation. I can start Oshi no ko now, though I'll probably wait for the anime first. Besides Oshi no ko, can't wait to see the other things Aka is gonna be cooking. 10/10 It's better to start right now, because there are relatively few chapters out there and since the 90's chapters, characters from Kaguya get cameos or mentions. This takes place a couple of years after this chapter, so this may be a good insider. |
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LordSozin said: So it has finally ended. One of the best rom-com from the mid-2010s ended happily. In full thought, the series definitely dragged and some of the dramas could've been toned down a bit. The series also started pandering to its audience too much, which really says something about the condition that the series was in. For people that have Kaguya as a first-ever rom-com, the problems might not be apparent, but for me, who has gone through multiple ones--including Oregairu---the many problems that I had with Oregairu is here too. Wait, Ishigami and Miko didn't finish high school with them, but just escorted them home as part of the main cast? |
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armchair3 said: Is this based on anything or is it just hopeful thinking? I dont really get there being a spin off unless it'd just be new characters at the same school or something with this ending, the ishigami/iino stuff felt more like a cute sned off than an actual tease of a spin off though I guess seeing new characters kind of makes it feel a little more possible but i still doubt itThere are some leaks from the newest Aka's interview that he'd like to write a spin-off soon. We'll see if it's true |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: armchair3 said: Is this based on anything or is it just hopeful thinking?There are some leaks from the newest Aka's interview that he'd like to write a spin-off soon. We'll see if it's true I remember exactly that the IshiMiko spin-off idea was a running gag in fandom, but I don't know anything about the real intentions. But I'm pretty sure he joked about the spin-off last year in an interview. |
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| Men its finally over, we won WE CAN FINALLY REST TO ALL THOSE WE LOST ON THE WAY THAT LOVED THIS SERIES, ITS OVER NOW YOU CAN REST IN PEACE.  |
| I was a crying mess that whole chapter. Couldn't have ended it in a better way. Best romcom ever. 10/10 |
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| Great manga apart from the shinomiya family confilct all the other parts are top tier material. Also the end was very good and emotional. |
| So we've finally reached the end huh. Man I loved this manga so much. So many people did. This manga was a mix of the slice of life, romance and the comedy genre and it was excellently done!! All three genres blended in together so well!! Now I for one have hardly read about two or three romance manga's, so I may not be an expert when it comes to reviewing the whole manga but what I felt and experienced while reading Love is war, is something I doubt any other manga could ever deliver. The story, the setup, the characters, the everyday life of the student council members, each dealing with life in their own ways, the theories and concepts revolving around the battles between Miyuki and Kaguya, somehow all of these things made the manga perfect(imo). Each chapter delivered some form of entertainment. Some chapters were too good, some chapters were too funny, some chapters were straight up sad and some changed the whole vibe of the manga!!! I enjoyed reading this manga!!! It was really fun!! I love each and everyone of the characters especially Miyuki and Kaguya, it started with them and it ended with not just them but a whole lot of other people who came later on in the story. The characters were well written. And of course how can I not mention the narrator, who also played a huge role in the chapters, sometimes making it more funny. As for this chapter, it was a great way to end their story, seriously the author executed it really well. That's the last time we get to here "How cute" ;-; I liked the Miyuki graduating scene too!!! Glad that things ended on a good note!!!! Kaguya, Miyuki, Chika, Ai, Yuu and Miko, you guys were one heck of a quirky group!!! Thanks for all the fun!!!! A 11/10 manga plus my all time favorite!!!!!! |
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| Just like a lot of people here I didn't love many of the character farewells (it was frustrating, but at least it represented what they meant for the story), but damn the last 2 chapters were really amazing. Its been a great ride Kaguya-sama! |
| While I have several issues with the final segment of the manga as a whole, I can confidently say that kaguya sama is one of my favourite rom coms ever. Its peak honestly outclasses any other romance's peak. I have never loved a cast as much as I love kaguya sama characters. For now, I will give the manga an 8, but if I still feel as strongly about the series around a year down the line, then I will change it to 9. |
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| That ending was amazing i cried so much :( I will miss this manga so much I would always get so happy when a new chapter is out and now its over :( easily one of my favorites manga of all time it will probably never leave my favorites 11/10 |
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| I feel like the end itself could've been a bit more impactful, but it is such a happy note to end and it also encapsulates a lot of the qualities and jokes this series has built along the years which still makes it a worthy ending. A farewell to one of the best romcoms ever made. |
| love is war - 2022-10-29 Thank you for being the best part of my week for over 2 years! |
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RobertBobert said: LordSozin said: So it has finally ended. One of the best rom-com from the mid-2010s ended happily. In full thought, the series definitely dragged and some of the dramas could've been toned down a bit. The series also started pandering to its audience too much, which really says something about the condition that the series was in. For people that have Kaguya as a first-ever rom-com, the problems might not be apparent, but for me, who has gone through multiple ones--including Oregairu---the many problems that I had with Oregairu is here too. Wait, Ishigami and Miko didn't finish high school with them, but just escorted them home as part of the main cast? It's over. Those two had a fine conclusion tho. |
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