Monogatari Series: First Season
| Don’t get me wrong, I actually like the main series. This trilogy is not just the worst part of monogatari but the worst trilogy I’ve seen so far. I had high expectations from it after hearing a lot of praise of this but after watching, I don’t like it’s story telling and it turned out to be predictable trash with characters making dumb decisions unlike the main series which is mostly unpredictable and interesting interaction among the characters, as usual Oshino was the only interesting character in this. I know saying this is worst part comes from the minority but I can't admit to liking this part of the series. |
nishant0 said: Don’t get me wrong, I actually like the main series. This trilogy is not just the worst part of monogatari but the worst trilogy I’ve seen so far. I had high expectations from it after hearing a lot of praise of this but after watching, I don’t like it’s story telling and it turned out to be predictable trash with characters making dumb decisions unlike the main series which is mostly unpredictable and interesting interaction among the characters, as usual Oshino was the only interesting character in this. I know saying this is worst part comes from the minority but I can't admit to liking this part of the series. this is making me consider creating a "garbage anime review" bingo chart. first of all, "predictable trash" is the kind of criticism you give a show when you haven't considered the myriad other ways a show can be pleasing besides the bare bones of the synopsis. the wider arcs and events in a story may be somewhat predictable, and yet still extremely interesting in the details, artistry, and character interactions. romeo and juliet could be considered 'predictable trash' in a similar vein (wow, they die at the end, shocker) secondly, maybe you were expecting too much of a "trilogy" which is functionally half the length of most trilogies—it could really just be one film. no need to compare it unfairly to much longer works—as a film, or a film and a half, kizumonogatari isn't quite like anything else and i thought it was a fucking blast tbh. finally, L + ratio + no wenches + ye have scurvy |
| -- art-house/psychological/stylish/philosophical anime enjoyer with yuri bias and the attention span of a smol-antlered creature -- |
| you must've never seen Heaven's Feel |
nishant0 said: Don’t get me wrong, I actually like the main series. This trilogy is not just the worst part of monogatari but the worst trilogy I’ve seen so far. I had high expectations from it after hearing a lot of praise of this but after watching, I don’t like it’s story telling and it turned out to be predictable trash with characters making dumb decisions unlike the main series which is mostly unpredictable and interesting interaction among the characters, as usual Oshino was the only interesting character in this. I know saying this is worst part comes from the minority but I can't admit to liking this part of the series. It wasn't adapted properly, many dialogues were taken out. Yet it wasn't that bad and ending wasn't predictable. |
| https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ [WATCH THIS^^^] |
nishant0 said: Don’t get me wrong, I actually like the main series. This trilogy is not just the worst part of monogatari but the worst trilogy I’ve seen so far. I had high expectations from it after hearing a lot of praise of this but after watching, I don’t like it’s story telling and it turned out to be predictable trash with characters making dumb decisions unlike the main series which is mostly unpredictable and interesting interaction among the characters, as usual Oshino was the only interesting character in this. I know saying this is worst part comes from the minority but I can't admit to liking this part of the series. Unless you started this as your first entry to the Monogatari series you would be able to predict the events to a certain extent but that doesn't make it 'bad'. It's a prequel to Bakemonogatari after all. Also, the characters making dumb decisions is deliberately done by the author to develop the characters for the later seasons chronologically. |
| Even excluding writing, you can't deny the production value of Kizu by it's unorthodox 3D mix of real setting with anime art style with great coloring and contrast, cinematography by complex perspective. I don't even know what is good for you if you think this is the worst trilogy you have ever seen in media. "predictable trash with characters making dumb decisions" Where is the part of predictable? And if you were talking about Araragi's decision "saving" Shinobu, it's crucial for his character and core theme. |
AruchemistOct 4, 2022 2:15 AM
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| bro complaining that he can predict Monogatari Series 💀 |
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lFrogs said: I mean this trilogy is predictable for the most part not the whole monogatari series bro complaining that he can predict Monogatari Series 💀 nishant0 said: main series which is mostly unpredictable and interesting interaction among the characters |
| They could have packed everything at most in a two-hour long movie, but decided to milk it thrice. |
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!  |
| Haven't watched the movies but I've read the lightnovel of Kizu and I enjoyed it. It is my favorite book so far in the series. So naturally, I'm going to disagree with this take. |
  𝒮𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒𝓈, 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒸𝒶𝓃'𝓉 𝓂𝑜𝓋𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓌𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝒸𝓁𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝑜𝑜𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝒽𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊. - 𝑅𝑒𝒾 𝒦𝒾𝓇𝒾𝓎𝒶𝓂𝒶   |
| Fuck no lmao Kizu is peak bozo |
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| I agree completely. Kizumonogatari is the worst Monogatari out of all of them. Apart from the second half of the third movie. It's pretty much a slog through get through. This triolgy being as bad as it is, is actually Shafts fault though. Shaft streched out a 350 page novel into 3 full length movies. Not only that they cut out most of the dialogue from the book and replaced it with long silent shots of people walking with trippy imagery. They absolutely butchered the book to milk it as much as they can. The actual book is pretty decent and much better than the movies. The only reason people like the movie is because if the ending and because of the stellar fight animation. Read the book if you want an authentic experience of what Kizumonogatari was actually supposed to be like. |
King_KKOct 4, 2022 8:26 AM
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Thapple said: KamisamaArigatou said: you must've never seen Heaven's Feel man finally someone agrees that heavens feel in mid VN heaven's feel is superior tho |
| -- art-house/psychological/stylish/philosophical anime enjoyer with yuri bias and the attention span of a smol-antlered creature -- |
King_KK said: I agree completely. Kizumonogatari is the worst Monogatari out of all of them. Apart from the second half of the third movie. It's pretty much a slog through get through. This triolgy being as bad as it is, is actually Shafts fault though. Shaft streched out a 350 page novel into 3 full length movies. Not only that they cut out most of the dialogue from the book and replaced it with long silent shots of people walking with trippy imagery. They absolutely butchered the book to milk it as much as they can. The actual book is pretty decent and much better than the movies. The only reason people like the movie is because if the ending and because of the stellar fight animation. Read the book if you want an authentic experience of what Kizumonogatari was actually supposed to be like. "only reason ppl like kizu is the ending and fight animation" fuck no i like kizu because the animation is gorgeous throughout and it's a generally fucking fun experience, especially if you're already invested in the (excellent) characters. it throws in a lot of depth and context to hanekawa's character that makes the rest of the show fit together much better. it's everything the monogatari series needed in a prequel. this thread is so overflowing with bad takes xd |
| -- art-house/psychological/stylish/philosophical anime enjoyer with yuri bias and the attention span of a smol-antlered creature -- |
3looming said: King_KK said: I agree completely. Kizumonogatari is the worst Monogatari out of all of them. Apart from the second half of the third movie. It's pretty much a slog through get through. This triolgy being as bad as it is, is actually Shafts fault though. Shaft streched out a 350 page novel into 3 full length movies. Not only that they cut out most of the dialogue from the book and replaced it with long silent shots of people walking with trippy imagery. They absolutely butchered the book to milk it as much as they can. The actual book is pretty decent and much better than the movies. The only reason people like the movie is because if the ending and because of the stellar fight animation. Read the book if you want an authentic experience of what Kizumonogatari was actually supposed to be like. "only reason ppl like kizu is the ending and fight animation" fuck no i like kizu because the animation is gorgeous throughout and it's a generally fucking fun experience, especially if you're already invested in the (excellent) characters. it throws in a lot of depth and context to hanekawa's character that makes the rest of the show fit together much better. it's everything the monogatari series needed in a prequel. this thread is so overflowing with bad takes xd I said the "movies" of Kizu. Also just learn to respect other people's opinions. You like the movies more and I like the book more. Their is nothing wrong liking either of the two. I only said that statement because those were the only good parts of Kizumonogatari movies in my opinion. If you like it for some other reasons than that's fine by me. Also Personally the movies almost ruined Hanekawa's character for me. But good if you like it. |
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King_KK said: The only reason people like the movie is because if the ending and because of the stellar fight animation. Read the book if you want an authentic experience of what Kizumonogatari was actually supposed to be like. I want a good experience, not an authentic one. Kizumonogatari is among the worst Monogatari novels and has awful dialogue. The animation made it into a fun story worth watching. 3looming said: this thread is so overflowing with bad takes xd What do you think of mine? |
| その目だれの目？ |
| You are saying a prequel having a predictable ending? Are you sure you aren't high on copium. |
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Thapple said: how could you predict the ending of this? yes, kizumonogatari is different from the other monogatari series, and at the same time it's my favorite. also how can you say that this is the worst trilogy ever when heavens feel exists Really good point on HF. The film trilogy for HF literally cut out massive chunk of the original contents and quotes from the VN, making the films very mid. Would have been a much better thing if they adapt it as a 25 eps TV instead. |
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King_KK said: I agree completely. Kizumonogatari is the worst Monogatari out of all of them. Apart from the second half of the third movie. It's pretty much a slog through get through. This triolgy being as bad as it is, is actually Shafts fault though. Shaft streched out a 350 page novel into 3 full length movies. Not only that they cut out most of the dialogue from the book and replaced it with long silent shots of people walking with trippy imagery. They absolutely butchered the book to milk it as much as they can. The actual book is pretty decent and much better than the movies. The only reason people like the movie is because if the ending and because of the stellar fight animation. Read the book if you want an authentic experience of what Kizumonogatari was actually supposed to be like. The film is not a complete garbage, and it is pretty enjoyable in many sense. One of the best light novel adaptations imo. Some ideas are being left out from the novels I agree, and it is a significant downgrade from the light novel. But that doesn't mean that the films on themselves are shit at all. |
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| You already knew the end result anyways so... |
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King_KK said: 3looming said: "only reason ppl like kizu is the ending and fight animation" fuck no i like kizu because the animation is gorgeous throughout and it's a generally fucking fun experience, especially if you're already invested in the (excellent) characters. it throws in a lot of depth and context to hanekawa's character that makes the rest of the show fit together much better. it's everything the monogatari series needed in a prequel. this thread is so overflowing with bad takes xd I said the "movies" of Kizu. Also just learn to respect other people's opinions. You like the movies more and I like the book more. Their is nothing wrong liking either of the two. I only said that statement because those were the only good parts of Kizumonogatari movies in my opinion. If you like it for some other reasons than that's fine by me. Also Personally the movies almost ruined Hanekawa's character for me. But good if you like it. Saying “people only like this because of X” is automatically dismissing their opinions. Like you’re literally contradicting yourself. |
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