vuxk said: Okay, there have been too many self-righteous women and white knights in this thread so I feel the need to make another comment. First of all, don't believe them! It takes men like us to understand your suffering. Those women won't ever understand you, it's like asking spoiled brats who were born rich about how it's like to be poor. For starters, let me ask you these questions: - How often do you see women pay for sex? - Have you ever seen women get so sexually frustrated and carry out mass murders? See? I don't buy the rhetoric that men and women are similar in this regard. There is a dearth of male prostitutes and female-oriented porn because women have never faced this problem in their lifetime. Hypothetically speaking, they could just entice some strangers to their rooms and they would have it. If men do such a thing, we would be put in jail or have our lives ruined. Their thinking comes from an extremely privileged position. Just try to put yourself in their shoes, you don't have to do anything besides breathing yet the girls act so nicely toward you. The girls listen to your problems, they spend loads of money to entertain you, they invite you to fancy places, and so on. Let me stop here cause all of that is impossible if you're male brah. Fantasy. These women who preach virtue in this thread wouldn't want to be near you in real life. The angels would treat you like a decent human being in public but when they're with their female friends, they would say something like this, "Can you believe that Bill made advances to me? What a creep!" while the devils would shove you and call the muscular guy to beat the hell out of you. Women instinctively know what they want and they discuss it with their friends every day. Unless you satisfy the condition, they will keep you nearby as potentially useful male fans. Sexual market value is real, women are aware of it and they along with the deniers try to artificially enhance their value through heavy use of makeup. But they don't want to admit it, women are people and they too have pride. To understand SMV and its implication, imagine that you suddenly find out that you have 50 billion dollars. Since you have so much money, would you buy a beaten-up Toyota whose interior smells like dog piss? Of course not, you'd buy Porsche and the likes with that wealth. Similarly, a woman who finds out that she's gorgeous will look for a millionaire or a David Beckham lookalike. Nowadays, women make up half of the workforce so unless you're insanely rich, money wouldn't faze them. Then another factor would be physical appearance and it's straighforward, either you have it or you don't. The two factors I mentioned are quite hard to control, so it leaves us with the last factor which is entirely in our control and it is the simping behavior. Oh, you can't imagine how much women dig that. It's an act of subservience and/or obedience veiled as an expression of love. This is the situation OP currently in. His girl is holding out for one really big gesture to prove that she owns him for lyfe. Like maybe doing acrobatic stunts in front of family and friends before showing her the ring. Do not do it OP, you will regret it. There is so much wrong with this I don't even know where to start to be honest. "There is a dearth of male prostitutes and female-oriented porn because women have never faced this problem in their lifetime." Yes there isn't much porn for women but it's not that there isn't a demand for it. Women have been demanding porn specifically aimed at them for a long time now, there just aren't a lot of people meeting that demand because society as a whole is still really backwards in terms of women wanting pleasure outside of the straight male porn mold which is all about the man's pleasure. So why tf would they want that? "Then another factor would be physical appearance and it's straighforward, either you have it or you don't." This is bullshit to an extent. First of all attractiveness is subjective, everyone has different preferences you can't tar all women with the same brush. Sure looks is what causes initial interest but that's initial attraction that's only going to get you so far looks and height doesn't ultimately matter in the long run if you click with someone and genuinely enjoy their company they're not going to care about that shit if you have a nice personality and treat them like... a person and not a sex object. "His girl is holding out for one really big gesture to prove that she owns him for lyfe. Like maybe doing acrobatic stunts in front of family and friends before showing her the ring. Do not do it OP, you will regret it." Jfc, okay first of all his gf probably wants commitment and stability she wants to feel secure in the relationship because OP sounds unreliable af and willing to cheat at the drop of a hat. Also it's romantic, women don't want to get married for legal reasons it's meant to be an equal display of your love for one another it's not about ownership. I don't know how to explain this to you when you seem to view everything in terms of money, sex, looks and power dynamics. You seem to have a very mechanistic view of relationships and marriage which are inherently based on emotions, and that is why you fail. |
CandleHoarderSep 17, 2021 7:37 AM
| @PushMePullYou @Osmatic You do not need to use your alternative accounts to try winning against @vuxk by number only. Only one minute of difference to rate the same anime XX... That must be a coincidence.  |
PushMePullYou said: Meusnier said: @PushMePullYou @Osmatic You do not need to use your alternative accounts to try winning against @vuxk by number only. Only one minute of difference to rate the same anime XX... That must be a coincidence. Lmao, that's my fiance you sussy baka. We literally sat together and watched it, and it was awesome :D How cute and coward at the same time to remove the "[/quote]" so that I do not see a notification. Too late! Once you submit your post, the notification is sent. I also thought about this possibility, but it did not work well with your "feminist" speech if you needed of your fiancé to defend your posts on an anime forum, and I preferred not mentioning it. "Sussy baka" (sic)? Please use words understandable to honest people. |
Nutella71 said: And by flaws I presume you mean "he treats me like shit and beats animals but he's 6ft3 so I can let it slip" or what? yo i'mma leave this quote here to add fuel to this dumpster fire: SemillaMinoria said: Not sure if she wants to be a gold digger or she wants a henpecked husband because anytime I try to lay down the law she tries to call the law. why is my dude joking about his girl calling the cops on him? unless.. that wasn't a joke. |
Meusnier said: PushMePullYou said: Lmao, that's my fiance you sussy baka. We literally sat together and watched it, and it was awesome :D How cute and coward at the same time to remove the "/quote" so that I do not see a notification. Too late! Once you submit your post, the notification is sent. I also thought about this possibility, but it did not work well with your "feminist" speech if you needed of your fiancé to defend your posts on an anime forum, and I preferred not mentioning it. "Sussy baka" (sic)? Please use words understandable to honest people. First of all I'm not defending her she can defend herself she doesn't need a man to do it for her lmao. Also it's feminist to treat women like human beings? You're very pressed right now what's going on mate? "honest people" You must be fun at parties. You know google exists right you could just look up what sussy baka means? Here let me help you since you clearly need it. [url=https://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=sussy+baka[/url] |
PushMePullYou said: vuxk said: Okay, there have been too many self-righteous women and white knights in this thread so I feel the need to make another comment. First of all, don't believe them! It takes men like us to understand your suffering. Those women won't ever understand you, it's like asking spoiled brats who were born rich about how it's like to be poor. For starters, let me ask you these questions: - How often do you see women pay for sex? - Have you ever seen women get so sexually frustrated and carry out mass murders? See? I don't buy the rhetoric that men and women are similar in this regard. There is a dearth of male prostitutes and female-oriented porn because women have never faced this problem in their lifetime. Hypothetically speaking, they could just entice some strangers to their rooms and they would have it. If men do such a thing, we would be put in jail or have our lives ruined. Their thinking comes from an extremely privileged position. Just try to put yourself in their shoes, you don't have to do anything besides breathing yet the girls act so nicely toward you. The girls listen to your problems, they spend loads of money to entertain you, they invite you to fancy places, and so on. Let me stop here cause all of that is impossible if you're male brah. Fantasy. These women who preach virtue in this thread wouldn't want to be near you in real life. The angels would treat you like a decent human being in public but when they're with their female friends, they would say something like this, "Can you believe that Bill made advances to me? What a creep!" while the devils would shove you and call the muscular guy to beat the hell out of you. Women instinctively know what they want and they discuss it with their friends every day. Unless you satisfy the condition, they will keep you nearby as potentially useful male fans. Sexual market value is real, women are aware of it and they along with the deniers try to artificially enhance their value through heavy use of makeup. But they don't want to admit it, women are people and they too have pride. To understand SMV and its implication, imagine that you suddenly find out that you have 50 billion dollars. Since you have so much money, would you buy a beaten-up Toyota whose interior smells like dog piss? Of course not, you'd buy Porsche and the likes with that wealth. Similarly, a woman who finds out that she's gorgeous will look for a millionaire or a David Beckham lookalike. Nowadays, women make up half of the workforce so unless you're insanely rich, money wouldn't faze them. Then another factor would be physical appearance and it's straighforward, either you have it or you don't. The two factors I mentioned are quite hard to control, so it leaves us with the last factor which is entirely in our control and it is the simping behavior. Oh, you can't imagine how much women dig that. It's an act of subservience and/or obedience veiled as an expression of love. This is the situation OP currently in. His girl is holding out for one really big gesture to prove that she owns him for lyfe. Like maybe doing acrobatic stunts in front of family and friends before showing her the ring. Do not do it OP, you will regret it. You're treating us like we're literally the enemy, so maybe that's why we don't want to be around you? Like, if someone seems like they hate and revile you, you don't want to be around them, hence my comment about skin suits? It seems like what you want is to be pursued rather than being forced by societal roles to be the pursuer all the time. The one putting everything on the line for someone to accept or reject you based on your ability to endlessly provide for them. That's valid, I think? By all means, fight the system. My point was that we're not your enemy. You're railing against literally the same social problem that feminists are, just from the opposite angle, and where we disagree is that you're blaming women for it when really everyone perpetuates it like a meme. We pass on masculine and feminine ideals to our kids, and we tell each other if we're not those things, we're not attractive. It's a meme. And it's shit for everyone, and nobody likes it. The only people who benefit are people who are very good at playing the game and fitting into the narrow, narrow boxes gender roles give us, and often even they don't actually enjoy it, they just do it because it's better than being hated. Women are probably less likely to become shooting statistics because we're taught to be more passive and emotionally open from day one. We're told we need to understand and accept people, even if they're mean or violent to us, and just keep smiling. We end up as victims because we're not taught to have self-worth or stand up for ourselves. Whereas you guys are told to be tough and unyielding and never show weakness. That masculine ideal is an emotional pressure cooker and sometimes that leads men to snap because they can't see any way out, is what I was saying. Sometimes that snap is a mostly harmless midlife crisis involving some poor 40yr old dude deciding he NEEDS to take a naked bike ride to Mexico, and sometimes it's a massacre. Neither are desirable. Also, if you think the female-oriented porn thing isn't a problem because we can just hook up with someone... honey, you have no idea what girls talk about. It's a pretty common topic, at least in my experience. It's something we're resigned to at this point. There is no big female-oriented porn coming, outside of extremely niche indie titles, and we'll have to make do with what we can. I don't think you understand that sex is more dangerous for us than it is for you if we don't trust the person we're with? Like, I'm not saying friends with benefits aren't a thing for some people, but if you think I could just walk outside and hook up with a guy on the street... oh, honey, no. I'm not blind to men's problems. You also have societal expectations to deal with. That's valid. Now if you'd stop being blind to our problems, and stop hating us and telling each other that we're the problem, that'd be lovely. We want shit to change just as much as you. We're not wearing makeup for you, most of the time. It's not about 'value' for us. It's a combination of pressure (the same pressure that tells you to 'be strong, be a man') and wanting to look nice. Because feeling like you look nice is uplifting, and the opposite of that is 'looking shitty', which for us is often the same as not wearing makeup. You don't even have to think about any of that before you go outside. You don't even technically need to wear a shirt. Lucky you. You say we'd never understand OP. I'm trying to understand you, but you don't seem willing to do the same. But hey, I'm just a girl. You probably won't even listen to a word I say, because obviously you know women (yes, ALL women) and their problems better, I'm sure. TL;DR: You don't want to be exploited for your ability to provide. I don't want to be exploited as a convenient hole. We're different, with different problems, but the source is the same. How about we work together to change that rather than hating each other and just assuming things can never get any better? I don't hate women, it seems that way because I'm focused on their bad sides. I just think that the good doesn't have to be discussed in this context. I also don't blame them because men would do the same in their situation. Suppose that one was born rich. It would be understandable if he doesn't value his wealth and spends money recklessly. Of course not all of them would, it's for the sake of argument. In a similar manner, women who possess beauty could use it for their advantage if they choose to. There used to be societal norms to control the bad behaviors from spilling out of control but there is no such thing nowadays and hence it's in the best interest of men to protect themselves from getting exploited. Okay, that seems reasonable enough. There are certain negative stigmas that are attached to gender roles and they're equally detrimental to both sexes. But I don't think that masculinity and feminity are inherently wrong. They still represent what's natural for the respective genders. There is also a theory that states boys and girls who grow up on a deserted island with no society would display masculine and feminine traits respectively. Regarding the system, feminism arises because of the conflict women have with structures in society, which is assumed to be male dominated. What I have yet to understand is the solution for this. If it's the reversal of the roles, then the movement carries a risk of turning into what it tries to fight. But the situation can't remain the same. So, is it the creation of entirely new model? Fair enough, I acknowledge that women too have problems. I apreciate that you see both sides. I don't talk to OP in particular because if what he brags about is true then he wouldn't have any difficulty getting over the worst case scenario. Rather, I'm concerned about young men in this forum who tend to be naive, like that RyuRabbit. They would be used and dumped by women if they're not careful. |
| "You misunderstood from the very beginning. You just believed what you wanted to believe." Rei Ayanami |
spacebunnies said: vuxk said: These women who preach virtue in this thread wouldn't want to be near you in real life. The angels would treat you like a decent human being in public but when they're with their female friends, they would say something like this, "Can you believe that Bill made advances to me? What a creep!" while the devils would shove you and call the muscular guy to beat the hell out of you. Women instinctively know what they want and they discuss it with their friends every day. Unless you satisfy the condition, they will keep you nearby as potentially useful male fans. LMFAOOOO ALKSDFJS WHAT IS THISSSS i'm not even gonna touch on all ur other points because if u do ur research, porn production companies are very male dominated and women have been demanding female-orientated porn for years. and what you think is "simp behaviour" is actually just men who are willing to compromise and communicate to form a health relationship. have u ever considered women don't want to approach u irl because u refer to them as either 'angels' or 'devils'? my dude, u are the living breathing epitome of madonna-whore complex. and have u considered that maybe, when bill made his advances, it was in a way that frightened the woman he was talking to? and so the girl wanted to relate this experience with her friends to get advice or support? if every single woman despised men so much, how the hell do heterosexual relationships still exist? or do you think that's just because devils disguised as women have invisible leashes on billions of men worldwide? and what kinda dollar store version of mean girls is that idea LMFAOOOO "call the muscular guy to beat the hell out of you" i'm- SIR LOOOOL where are u getting this from?! yes, let me just dial up my bulky male friends to have them beat up this random dude who breathed my air and have my friend risk getting jailed for an assault charge. what a great way to spend the weekend! @PushMePullYou may be an understanding girl who's trying to see where you're coming from, but not me. nope i am ur worst enemy, just like how u think the entire gender of women is. at 3 am right now in my bedroom, i am wheezing in laughter at what you just wrote. watch out! i'm secretly an agent from hell! just had a mean game of poker with satan himself. (ps. my next big trick is to gold-dig all these billionaire men and aim for world domination with my new fat stacks and enslave all "beta men", because that is definitely the ultimate female fantasy) like i'm sorry, what?! LMFAOOOO what's wrong with discussing with our friends about our potential partners? as opposed to what? posting about our relationship and bashing our partner in great detail on an online forum for all of the world to see like the op did in this thread? which you had no problem with? no, girls don't avoid you because they prefer masculine men or alpha men or whatever weird concept of the idealized masculine identity you conjured up. women avoid you and people who think like you do because they don't feel safe around you. who the hell would feel safe when it feels like you're about to hate crime them at any moment of time because they have a pair of boobs? This woman right here seems to have diarrhea in public, let me act as a gentleman and refute her lies one by one. Even gay people have more porn flicks dedicated to them lol. It's a simple economic concept, if there is demand then there will be supply. There is no supply because there is no demand. If you're being honest, it's easier for you to dress provocatively and stand beside the open door. Then when some guy passed by, you wink at them and there you go. Or you just have to go to some dating apps and at least ten guys will drive to your house. Who's gonna protest on the streets for porn when it's this easy to get real-life action lmao. The point is, Bill has gathered courage and he doesn't deserve to be treated like that. Women don't understand this because all they have to get attention is showing cleavages. "Frightened" is very subjective, it's a lie to mask the fact that they have set their sight on some rich guys and they don't want to jeopardize the prospect. Or possibly, they are in a competition with her friends and embarrassed that they only attract average guys. Heterosexual relationships still exist because many men still haven't opened their eyes to the bitter truth that they're only simps that would get dumped once they get completely squeezed. Anyway, marriages are falling everywhere and people are more lonely than ever. That is just an illustration but there are many incidents where guys get bullied because they approach some girls in schools. It led to shooting sprees like in the case of Elliot Rodger, etc. Yes, it would be hard for you to believe but men are chill creatures who would rather discuss their hobbies with friends than spend the whole day talking about girls. OP is an exception because he's at the risk of losing his house if the relationship falls apart and he has wandered on the street before. As I said, this has been going on for two years. |
| "You misunderstood from the very beginning. You just believed what you wanted to believe." Rei Ayanami |
RyuRabbit said: vuxk said: I understand that you're still young and she's still young. Life is full of sunshine when you're a young traveller, but dark roads await you. Watch from 2:30 Thank me later. that doesn't mean jack shit. People can't be boiled down to stuff like SMV like the guy said Women care about confidence and kindness and people they know over attraction. Most of my friends in their 30's and people i know in their 50's didn't date their husbands because they were attractive. Sure some people are like that but those are people not worth dating. Being young or old has nothing to do with it. But incels would tell you otherwise cause incels gonna incel lmao Huh? I didn't say anything about SMV in my reply to you. It's clear that you don't watch the video I embedded. What I'm concerned about is your sunny-ass outlook on dating even though you're just starting out. Seriously, this kind of occurrence is what makes me go from wishing other people well to wishing them to fail spectacularly so I can laugh at their faces and say "I told you so!" |
| "You misunderstood from the very beginning. You just believed what you wanted to believe." Rei Ayanami |
| Sounds like you’re failing the shit tests man she’s taking away your hobby from you and you’re still tolerating it because you love her? there are other thing but I won't go into that. by tolerating it, in her eyes you’re seeking her validation and trying to appease her. She probably thinks you’re afraid of losing her. (scarcity mentality) she’s being bitchy because she’s unsure of you since you weren’t like this before, so she’s trying to figure out (test) if you’re still the man she once knew (having an abundance mentality.) that’s why when you go back to your old self, or bring up the break-up card she becomes a loving woman again, but then she tests you and you fail which just repeats the cycle Just as you said, going someplace is one way to do the trick since you’re neither engaging nor tolerating her bullshit. |
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Meusnier said: @PushMePullYou @Osmatic You do not need to use your alternative accounts to try winning against @vuxk by number only. Only one minute of difference to rate the same anime XX... That must be a coincidence. Thanks, sorry it caused you to be attacked by enraged women here. |
| "You misunderstood from the very beginning. You just believed what you wanted to believe." Rei Ayanami |
vuxk said: RyuRabbit said: that doesn't mean jack shit. People can't be boiled down to stuff like SMV like the guy said Women care about confidence and kindness and people they know over attraction. Most of my friends in their 30's and people i know in their 50's didn't date their husbands because they were attractive. Sure some people are like that but those are people not worth dating. Being young or old has nothing to do with it. But incels would tell you otherwise cause incels gonna incel lmao Huh? I didn't say anything about SMV in my reply to you. It's clear that you don't watch the video I embedded. What I'm concerned about is your sunny-ass outlook on dating even though you're just starting out. Seriously, this kind of occurrence is what makes me go from wishing other people well to wishing them to fail spectacularly so I can laugh at their faces and say "I told you so!" not a sunny ass outlook on dating i have been dating for 7 years now...maybe in your enclosed world it's that bad but in the real world it's not bad at all, it's easy to find someone who wants to date you the problem in the real world is finding the person you will mesh best with. That video came off in the same vein as what the guy above posted hence why i mentioned his bullshit, that's such a doom and gloom view of dating that's unrealistic :P I did watch it after you replied and yeah it's not a very realistic or good view to have towards dating if my view is "sunny-ass" that video is the other extreme. Which is funny cause my views on dating aren't exactly sunshines and rainbow lmao |
RyuRabbitSep 17, 2021 10:26 AM
| @PushMePullYou You're not wrong on the reason I hold this position although I won't get into that. No, I won't assume anything and to show that I engage in this discussion in good faith, I have no problem in acknowledging your partner's assessment that I tend to hold a mechanistic view about relationships. In fact, some people have mentioned that to me in real life. I see. Your explanation is reasonable and your position is one that I could agree with. What I have problems with is the minority of feminists you mentioned, the so-called radical feminists, who treat this as a game of power and thus get pushback from men. I have no problem with the movement in general, especially if it's all-encompassing. Btw in my opinion the essence of mgtow movement is guys looking out for each other and using reason to explain phenomena around them. I agree that people who are associated with the movement tend to be negative and even bitter, but I think it's because they're focused on the bad sides of relationships. After all, if everything goes well then people just need to enjoy it, right? Sometimes they could be overly cautious but it's based on good faith. Ideally, men should try to make a real change in society like the mens' rights movement who actively lobbies the government. I think both have their own merits, one works higher up and the other works in the grassroots. Your explanation about the porn thing and attractiveness was fair so I wouldn't add to it. Oh, I enjoy talking with you and appreciate your explanations! Listening to the other side would keep me from getting biased on certain issues. It's just that like you, I'm wary of people trolling me and the users who quoted me are unfamiliar. I'd like to apologize for that. I genuinely think that you presented your views in a civil and fair manner, unlike that stuck-up bitch @spacebunnies . For that question, there are two different ideas about the essential nature of people. You seem to have an optimistic view about it, while unfortunately I hold the opposite view. Nothing too extreme like people are inherently evil but they tend to prioritize their own selves before others. In other words, people are generally cooperative but in a tight spot, they could exploit one another and if it's concerning their survivability then the question of morals is out of the window. It's also very human to make do with what we've got. Like somebody whose voice is beautiful, he/she would then use the talent to be a singer. That's me being logical again. But honestly, if you ask me if I'm going to do it for real then I would probably not because I still have some consciousness in me. But what guarantees that the other person wouldn't do it? The world is big and there are many different people. I could observe a person, but what if the person is really good at putting on an act? Then is it just taking the leap like believing in God? But in this case, there are real consequences. I guess I won't know for sure. (Don't feel obliged to answer, just some rambling of mine) |
| "You misunderstood from the very beginning. You just believed what you wanted to believe." Rei Ayanami |
| You seem to be really determined to take revenge for the last time lol. But whatever, I still got some time left before I have to sign out so lemme address your posts. _Maneki-Neko_ said: Yeah ofc I won't be around a person with a shitty personality. They pity themselves 24/7 for something that's their own fault, namely being misogynists and overall just nobody you want to have near you, and they behave like a toddler, who didn't get what they want. So they cry and become aggressive towards the person, who didn't give them what they wanted You know, I have a hundred reasons to pity myself too, really most of my childhood and some years later on were hell, but I don't and I don't cry, if I don't get what I want, because I know that other people have their own free will and you have to accept rejection as a part of life At this moment I don't want to be in a relationship though. I'm just raising awareness about a specific problem that men face, how's that misogyny? It's a real concern. Women are encouraged to be independent all the time, but when I encourage men to do the same suddenly it's not right. _Maneki-Neko_ said: That's just disgusting to no end. I guess guys with that specific mindset just can't love and you can't care genuinely for a woman and there is the core problem. It sounds harsh, but I have to spit it out, because sorry... it's true. Guys with your mindset view women as some kind of status symbol like a car or an expensive house that you can show off, not as a person. Uh no, you've probably mistaken me for someone else. I view them as people who are capable of giving happiness and misery. When the only constant in life is change, how can you be so sure that the other person won't change for the worse? And you know, a lot of incel guys and nice guys complain about the "friendzone" shit too, but have you ever thought how women feel about this? Women want to make male friends, but some of them don't love you platonically. They only want you near them, if you want their dick too... and I don't need spending time with such a person lol. You guys just don't get laid, but we feel dehumanized and lonely, if we aren't treated as a person, but as an object you have to get to bed. Luckily, I always had some good male friends, yes also straight ones. I have three close male, straight friends, two of them have girlfriends and we also spent a lot of time together alone too and all, because we enjoy each other's friendship and they don't see me in another light than their male friends and collegues. Of course, I also had someone falling in love with me, but he accepted my rejection and then we still talk. But I also had some nice guys, who pretended to care about me to get me into bed (tho I have fine anttenas, so I called out their bullshit), and at least one made up a rumor about me that I'm a whore and sleep around haha I thought it's kinda funny tho. The only thing I ever wanted from men, has been their friendship and platonic, maybe in some way romantic, love. You make it sound like we should be thankful that we get a lot of male attention lol. A lot of women don't have that much of a low self-esteem that they want and need that. Most aren't attention whores, most women are fucking annoyed by the attention they get, but you praise. Seriously, are you trying to frame me as a pickup artist lol. I think what you have is a blessing though, there are women who don't get that much attention and they're in a worse position than you. Just keep the good friends and weed out the bad ones. The dehumanizing part is largely about your perception. As people grow older, they tend to have motives when approaching people like trying to sell something for example. It's the same with friendship. I love you, smooch. |
| "You misunderstood from the very beginning. You just believed what you wanted to believe." Rei Ayanami |
| that sounds rather rough, you should probably break u with her, nothing good can come out of it, it might be hard to do but you'll be happier in th end as for the title, i don't know, i'm conflicted about this, one part o me doesn't want to believe it but at the same time its likely that some women actually do lose respect fot a man if they show their emotions, but thats because they are immature, i've met about the same amount of women who wouldn't care and who would mock you for it, the same goes for man though, its a question of maturity and how much of a dick they are, theres no use in putting up with a person like that |
e5812Sep 17, 2021 2:37 PM
| Quite often, being nice or agreeable implies a lack of assertiveness and courage, this being the opposite of male leadership instinctively attracting women. It is not the nice behavior of the man that really causes the woman to lose respect for him, but the cowardice that is usually hidden in such behavior, since it makes her feel unprotected and insecure. I am not saying that a man should not be agreeable, but that he should be to a reasonable extent. The way I see it, what your bad girl needs is not a false peace, but a good lesson that forces her to respect you. So enough of hug her OP. It's time to spank her!! |
_Nemrod_Sep 17, 2021 2:50 PM
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_Nemrod_ said: that doesn't sound healty, if you need to constantly show your authority for gaining respect you should find a better partner, i don't know where the dea that women want leaders come from, that sounds like bullishi though, honestly dealing with someone that need to contantly feel protected is horrible, snd security should come from yourself not from someone else, even if it was like that she could have found an healty way of ocmmunicating her feelings to him like idk telling him how she feltQuite often, being nice or agreeable implies a lack of assertiveness and courage, this being the opposite of male leadership instinctively attracting women. It is not the nice behavior of the man that really causes the woman to lose respect for him, but the cowardice that is usually hidden in such behavior, since it makes her feel unprotected and insecure. I am not saying that a man should not be agreeable, but that he should be to a reasonable extent. The way I see it, what your bad girl needs is not a false peace, but a good lesson that forces her to respect you. So enough of hug her OP. It's time to spank her!! |
vuxk said: This woman right here seems to have diarrhea in public, let me act as a gentleman and refute her lies one by one. Even gay people have more porn flicks dedicated to them lol. It's a simple economic concept, if there is demand then there will be supply. There is no supply because there is no demand. If you're being honest, it's easier for you to dress provocatively and stand beside the open door. Then when some guy passed by, you wink at them and there you go. Or you just have to go to some dating apps and at least ten guys will drive to your house. Who's gonna protest on the streets for porn when it's this easy to get real-life action lmao. The point is, Bill has gathered courage and he doesn't deserve to be treated like that. Women don't understand this because all they have to get attention is showing cleavages. "Frightened" is very subjective, it's a lie to mask the fact that they have set their sight on some rich guys and they don't want to jeopardize the prospect. Or possibly, they are in a competition with her friends and embarrassed that they only attract average guys. Heterosexual relationships still exist because many men still haven't opened their eyes to the bitter truth that they're only simps that would get dumped once they get completely squeezed. Anyway, marriages are falling everywhere and people are more lonely than ever. That is just an illustration but there are many incidents where guys get bullied because they approach some girls in schools. It led to shooting sprees like in the case of Elliot Rodger, etc. Yes, it would be hard for you to believe but men are chill creatures who would rather discuss their hobbies with friends than spend the whole day talking about girls. OP is an exception because he's at the risk of losing his house if the relationship falls apart and he has wandered on the street before. As I said, this has been going on for two years. watch out!! this "stuck up bitch" is back to attacking you, the fine gentleman that you are! i'm not gonna address the disturbing implication of you thinking women hold accountability for school shooters, or points 1 ~ 3 because honestly, it speaks pretty loudly for itself. you may think your word vomit of opinions grant you a few validating nods from fellow dude bros who are subject to the terror of women, but reality is i've gotten messages from many people (both genders! not just girls unfortunately) both laughing at your warped perception of women and genuinely wondering what the hell happened to you for you to despise literally half the world's population. but mostly, people feel sorry for you. see, i don't hate men like you hate women. i know what guys like to talk about in their spare time, because (don't be too shocked now!) i have male friends and we get along just fine. and no, they're not just white knights or just there waiting to hate-fuck me. don't u worry ur cute lil' head off about me getting the wrong ideas about men ♥ wow! i didn't know op was in risk of losing his house? why? because he constantly implied his girlfriend is a gold digger and offers no financial contribution. guess i learned a new fact today! women can earn money. how amazing. |
For the record I haven’t cheated on her since I said that I wouldn’t anymore. When I said I bagged a Chinese girl I meant that we were both interested each other and swapped numbers and socials and started flirting. I didn’t sleep with her. As for the other women I just have them my number but didn’t hear back from them even until now so I don’t consider them to be in the bag. Anyway, I decided not to pursue the Chinese girl anymore on the day that I last posted on this thread. It seems she has decided not to take things further aswell. I’m assuming it’s because she saw the pics of my snd my girl on my social media account. I would have told her the situation if she’d asked me about it so that’s why I let her see that account. @vuxk love all of your posts as always. Not just in this thread but across the whole forum. @shinzo- I think you’re right there. Actually I was just thinking to myself yesterday that I’ve been failing her shit tests lately. But I’ve also come to realise that I have caused some of the disrespect myself by disrespecting her first. I’ve been talking to some guys at work who are married or who have been with partners a long time and have kids snd they all seem to say that the woman only becomes disrespectful if they are disrespectful first and haven’t convinced the woman that they are truly sorry about the issue. I try to seek resolution but she doesn’t want resolution on an issue if she doesn’t feel I have convinced her that I won’t allow the behaviour that she found to be disrespectful to come up again. So I guess it isn’t really about being agreeable or not or passive about some things or not. My problem is always taking everything at face value. She used to complain that I played video games too much so I switched to anime then she complained I was watching anime too much. Turns out what she wanted was for me to spend more time with her but we already live together so I thought we were spending plenty of time already. I spend more time with her than anyone else on the planet. Now I see that what she meant was that she wanted me to do more romantic things with her and take her out more (doesn’t have to cost money just more quality time). @Cerber106 I’ve definitely become more toxic as a result but I’m working on that. Praise be to God. @PushMePullYou I guess some of your points are good and offer a different perspective. I’m going to try to be a better guy from now on. Not a simp per se but just try to be more emotionally available and try to respect her more. There is no point in breaking up with her because she’s the best out of a bad bunch. Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t. Besides, she does have her qualities. I should compliment her more. That should help a bit. |
GenshinRosariaSep 17, 2021 4:39 PM
| This thread really took a turn for the incel. Not altogether unsurprising but still! |
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spacebunnies said: vuxk said: This woman right here seems to have diarrhea in public, let me act as a gentleman and refute her lies one by one. Even gay people have more porn flicks dedicated to them lol. It's a simple economic concept, if there is demand then there will be supply. There is no supply because there is no demand. If you're being honest, it's easier for you to dress provocatively and stand beside the open door. Then when some guy passed by, you wink at them and there you go. Or you just have to go to some dating apps and at least ten guys will drive to your house. Who's gonna protest on the streets for porn when it's this easy to get real-life action lmao. The point is, Bill has gathered courage and he doesn't deserve to be treated like that. Women don't understand this because all they have to get attention is showing cleavages. "Frightened" is very subjective, it's a lie to mask the fact that they have set their sight on some rich guys and they don't want to jeopardize the prospect. Or possibly, they are in a competition with her friends and embarrassed that they only attract average guys. Heterosexual relationships still exist because many men still haven't opened their eyes to the bitter truth that they're only simps that would get dumped once they get completely squeezed. Anyway, marriages are falling everywhere and people are more lonely than ever. That is just an illustration but there are many incidents where guys get bullied because they approach some girls in schools. It led to shooting sprees like in the case of Elliot Rodger, etc. Yes, it would be hard for you to believe but men are chill creatures who would rather discuss their hobbies with friends than spend the whole day talking about girls. OP is an exception because he's at the risk of losing his house if the relationship falls apart and he has wandered on the street before. As I said, this has been going on for two years. watch out!! this "stuck up bitch" is back to attacking you, the fine gentleman that you are! i'm not gonna address the disturbing implication of you thinking women hold accountability for school shooters, or points 1 ~ 3 because honestly, it speaks pretty loudly for itself. you may think your word vomit of opinions grant you a few validating nods from fellow dude bros who are subject to the terror of women, but reality is i've gotten messages from many people (both genders! not just girls unfortunately) both laughing at your warped perception of women and genuinely wondering what the hell happened to you for you to despise literally half the world's population. but mostly, people feel sorry for you. see, i don't hate men like you hate women. i know what guys like to talk about in their spare time, because (don't be too shocked now!) i have male friends and we get along just fine. and no, they're not just white knights or just there waiting to hate-fuck me. don't u worry ur cute lil' head off about me getting the wrong ideas about men ♥ wow! i didn't know op was in risk of losing his house? why? because he constantly implied his girlfriend is a gold digger and offers no financial contribution. guess i learned a new fact today! women can earn money. how amazing. Yep, it's you again burying your head in the sand while letting everyone see your dirty ass. How come you still think that all women are good and never treat men like crap, and when they do it's because men behave like creeps. If only you could be somewhat open-minded like your friend who acknowledged that women can be an angel and an asshole at the same time. It's tiring to see you up there on a pedestal looking down on everybody while pretending like a saint you're not. Lmao holy shit that's an argumentum ad populum. Just because your simple-minded friends are waving japan flags behind you while screaming "ganbatte! ganbatte kudasai spacebunny!" doesn't mean that your argument is right. No, it doesn't mean shit. Could you see how juvenile you are? That is what the mean girl in school typically would say, heck I could picture you and your friends laughing and bullying a frail little girl in the ladies' room. Anyway, I derive my confidence not from people around me so I don't give a damn. Yeah you probably keep them around to change a lightbulb or to do some dirty works. They can also be used as emotional tampoons. Good for you! I heard his girl asked him to buy a house and marry her. The house is technically owned by both of them if I'm not mistaken. But the point is, wise men like OP would sort out his feeling first before tying the knot while girls like you would demand material possession before anything else mainly because you know that you will get the house irrespective of whether the marriage succeeds or not. |
| "You misunderstood from the very beginning. You just believed what you wanted to believe." Rei Ayanami |
| @PushMePullYou Well, it's funny because your argument applies to you as well: "I happen to like @Meusnier, we've had interactions before and he's actually super chill. So, calling him a douche or a dickhead probably isn't a good idea if you want us to be able to talk civilly" I'm not copying your sentences to act like some prick. I'm actually friends with him and I can attest that he's one of the most civil people you will ever meet on MAL. I said sorry before to be considerate but honestly, I don't see anything wrong with his remark. He just warned me that I was probably dealing with trolls and I should be careful. It's a legit concern, you guys are unfamiliar and trolling using alt accounts is actually common. Recently, there was somebody who used more than 20 alt accounts to troll in this very sub. Then your reply to him was calling him "sussy baka", I had to look it up to understand the meaning and it's clear that the term shouldn't be used to people other than your close friends. “Sussy” and “sus” are words used in the videogame Among Us to describe someone shifty or suspicious, whilst baka means “fool” in Japanese. So to be a sussy baka is to be a suspicious fool https://thetab.com/uk/2021/05/04/sussy-baka-203893 Afterward, you threw insults at him and your partner followed it up with some offhand remarks. If all of that is not an attack then I don't know what it is. What I'm saying is, you can't expect me to comply with your request if you hold a double standard and don't lead by example. I know that she's your friend but come on, it's plain to see that her posts are hardcore baiting. She is wary that the other party is being disingenuous and it's the same for me. I stand by my assessment of her and the best I could offer is an impression of Sheldon Cooper: " @spacebunnies yesterday we may have gotten off on the wrong foot when I called you a stuck-up bitch. I just want to say I was wrong to point it out." Okay, I've read the rest of your post and points taken. It seems that OP has made a resolve so I agree we should end it here. Thank you for your explanations and have a good day. |
vuxkSep 18, 2021 3:58 AM
| "You misunderstood from the very beginning. You just believed what you wanted to believe." Rei Ayanami |
| When's this thread going to be on the MAL database as an anime? |
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Bunille said: ^^^^ Hahahaha yess at this point it's so badly written and drama filled to passWhen's this thread going to be on the MAL database as an anime? |
_Maneki-Neko_ said: vuxk said: You seem to be really determined to take revenge for the last time lol. But whatever, I still got some time left before I have to sign out so lemme address your posts. At this moment I don't want to be in a relationship though. I'm just raising awareness about a specific problem that men face, how's that misogyny? It's a real concern. Women are encouraged to be independent all the time, but when I encourage men to do the same suddenly it's not right. Uh no, you've probably mistaken me for someone else. I view them as people who are capable of giving happiness and misery. When the only constant in life is change, how can you be so sure that the other person won't change for the worse? Seriously, are you trying to frame me as a pickup artist lol. I think what you have is a blessing though, there are women who don't get that much attention and they're in a worse position than you. Just keep the good friends and weed out the bad ones. The dehumanizing part is largely about your perception. As people grow older, they tend to have motives when approaching people like trying to sell something for example. It's the same with friendship. I love you, smooch. Not a pickup artist, but your posts read like you are someone, who just hates on women and portray them all as superficial and mean bitches, because you are bitter about them. Anyway. Do or think whatever you want, but I wouldn't be surprised in your place, if women find that mindset offputing. What can I say about your posts... learn to love maybe. The thing about attraction is also, that it isn't set in stone. Even when you think at first that someone looks quite average, good chemistry and character traits can make look someone suddenly much more attractive. To add on to what Maneki said to really drive the point home.. I'm not sexually attracted OR ATTRACTED to my ex at all nor was i before i fell for her but whilst i was in love with her? She was the most beautiful women i had ever met. good chemistry and character traits can make you find anyone attractive. |
| @vuxk i'm not gonna bother quoting that giant shitpost u just wrote up now. sure sure sure i'm a mean girl, here to antagonize you. i sure showed the world a dirty side of myself, and you are a martyr for the cause. but get this: i never once said women are all angels. that was all you claiming i did. if you ever have the spare time to re-read this thread again, you'll find that the majority of our interaction was you putting projected opinions upon me, and me laughing at you about it. so sure, i am looking at you from a pedestal. but not as maliciously as you think. i really do feel sorry for you because it's clear you're emotionally crippled in many ways and can't understand essential aspects of human interaction. anyways, it'd be a waste of time for both of us to keep this charade up any longer. please, do include me as one of your haters if you ever feel the need to write a manifesto one day. RyuRabbit said: Bunille said: ^^^^ Hahahaha yess at this point it's so badly written and drama filled to passWhen's this thread going to be on the MAL database as an anime? honestly though, it was a good laugh. and i fr learned so many new things, like how this concept of 'smv' exists...? oh the things i find on the internet lmao. surprised mods didn't lock it. |
spacebunnies said: @vuxk i'm not gonna bother quoting that giant shitpost u just wrote up now. sure sure sure i'm a mean girl, here to antagonize you. i sure showed the world a dirty side of myself, and you are a martyr for the cause. but get this: i never once said women are all angels. that was all you claiming i did. if you ever have the spare time to re-read this thread again, you'll find that the majority of our interaction was you putting projected opinions upon me, and me laughing at you about it. so sure, i am looking at you from a pedestal. but not as maliciously as you think. i really do feel sorry for you because it's clear you're emotionally crippled in many ways and can't understand essential aspects of human interaction. anyways, it'd be a waste of time for both of us to keep this charade up any longer. please, do include me as one of your haters if you ever feel the need to write a manifesto one day. RyuRabbit said: ^^^^ Hahahaha yess at this point it's so badly written and drama filled to pass honestly though, it was a good laugh. and i fr learned so many new things, like how this concept of 'smv' exists...? oh the things i find on the internet lmao. surprised mods didn't lock it. Same hell i showed this friend to a friend irl who doesn't watch anime he also got a laugh out of it and we spent time discussing how ridiculous it was. Imagine judging people and putting them to a "market value" LMAO |
PushMePullYou said: Are you high? I mentioned there was a running incel thread on MAL and he was like 'omg I gotta see'. Not my fault he felt compelled to talk as well. Why are you assuming I need him to defend me? That's amazingly sad that you have such a pitifully limited view of relationship dynamics. I removed the quote by accident because I forgot to remove your huge ass screenshot when I quoted you, and then had to go and edit it back in. You know, I try to assume people I disagree with are at least operating marginally in good faith (as you can see in my *extremely* charitable speech to vuxk further up - I could have reacted like spacebunnies and nearly did), but you're clearly making a hell of a lot of assumptions about anyone who even marginally disagrees with you. 'Coward'? Yes, because you're clearly the picture of bravery, while being literally so passive aggressive in your defence of vuxk that it's amazing you haven't disappeared up his asshole. Are you his alt? You display the same reactive, judgemental and painfully limited view of relationships from this simple, short interaction, and the same black and white way of being 'logical' about things. You're clearly not operating in good faith, so don't pretend to be brave and honest. Edit: Also, it helps if you engage with someone's argument rather than sneeringly declare it's 'feminism' and then just move on to claiming people are alts. It's like you're an anime villain craving a 'gotcha' moment that will make the nasty argument just go away without you ever having to read it. That's just the kind of thing I would expect of dishonest cowards, you know? I have only experienced the tortures of hashish and opium through the reading of Baudelaire and De Quincey; can you say the same? You have no idea of my views on relationships, so stop reproaching me to make assumptions when you do the same in much worse. My bad, I remove the part I said about the quote then. Accidents happen I guess. That was a rather unfortunate successions of misunderstandings, but I will do fine without your wall of ad hominem. This is rather telling that scratching a little behind the wall of "charity," you see nothing else than a sad person who can only express herself with very crass insults and borderline homophobic "metaphors" repeated ad nauseam. Again, you have no idea of my views on relationships, and I am neither vuxk's alternative account—as a simple comparison of style would have shown to any sensible person—nor do I defend vuxk's arguments or even agree with them for what matters (it does not), I merely expressed my displeasure seeing your clique writing all those variations of the same reply. The content of vuxk's points is irrelevant to this "discussion." 'Tis quite amusing that you first opened fire with your middle school insult ("sussy baka") and think that for some reason, that makes you brave or a good judge of bravery. You do not know what "good faith" is, or understand what I had implied with the word "feminism." In "good faith," I thought that you had made an alternative account as many people here do (people who straight post in CD are eminently suspicious; if you were active, you would know that), and in "good faith," I wrote this second reply. I might have apologised for making in "good faith" wrong assumptions, but what you said in the first paragraph cannot be checked and your attitude does not inspire much pity, so I am not very inclined to say anything that could appease you. Being of bad faith would have been to try "defending" vuxk by arguing dishonestly about your points, not making very probable assumptions. True cowards would not even have written a single post. PushMePullYou said: @AncientCurse his original post has a [/ quote] in quotation marks inside it. If I were as paranoid and reactionary as him, I might assume he put it there solely to gloat when it broke my message in trying to respond to him. With how PA he's been so far, I wouldn't be surprised honestly. Oh, and @Meusnier, just so you see this too. Of course, I added the "[/quote]" so that you see the notification, but you did omit it in your next post... I am neither paranoid or reactionary (anyone who disagrees with you is far-right now? I assume (again!) that you used incorrectly reactionary in this sense, unless you thought that someone who reacts to what a person says is "reactionary," which would be excessively entertaining), I have made an apparently inaccurate assumption. Passive-aggressive is another word whose definition you ignore. I might not be well verses in the youngsters's internet jargon, but at least, I have a good idea about the real words: reactionary noun [C], politics, disapproving a person who is opposed to political or social change or new ideas: Reactionaries are preventing reforms. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/fr/dictionnaire/anglais/reactionary As an example of that respect thing, it feels like you don't really take me or the others seriously, for example, in your comment to Meusnier. Like you don't even see why we might be angry, or any reason for that anger to come from an honest source. I was 'enraged' (read: a little peeved, thank you for assuming I am overly emotional) by Meusnier largely due to the condescending tone of his messages. If you can't see the passive aggression in his responses, I don't even know what to say to you? He basically implied I was using an alt to disagree with you and strengthen my point, then that I needed someone to 'defend' me, and then implied I was a liar for using a meme playfully. Basically from my perspective, Meusnier came in and acted like a pretentious, passive aggressive douche, made a load of unwarranted assumptions, refused to engage in good faith, and then flounced. I'm not really going to seriously talk to someone like that, I'm just going to call him a dickhead and move on, you know? Like, I'm still not entirely convinced I'm not wasting my breath here trying to talk to you, but Meusnier made it very clear in roughly three sentences that he wasn't interested in engaging honestly. Yawns. Nice collection of insults I guess. I did not "flounce," you are not entitled to an immediate reply of mine (incredible how strong the incel mindset is these days...), and I was truly enjoying myself to see you gesticulate wildly from a safe distance with a fine cup of tea in hand and Bruckner's Symphony No. 8 playing in the background. Hopefully writing that will reinforce your binary thinking that made you assume that I was trying to act like a "villain." If such a honest post You do not need to use your alternative accounts to try winning against @vuxk by number only. makes you resort to throwing insults, you cannot decently claim that my reply did not make you overly emotional. Osmatic said: Meusnier said: How cute and coward at the same time to remove the "/quote" so that I do not see a notification. Too late! Once you submit your post, the notification is sent. I also thought about this possibility, but it did not work well with your "feminist" speech if you needed of your fiancé to defend your posts on an anime forum, and I preferred not mentioning it. "Sussy baka" (sic)? Please use words understandable to honest people. First of all I'm not defending her she can defend herself she doesn't need a man to do it for her lmao. Also it's feminist to treat women like human beings? You're very pressed right now what's going on mate? "honest people" You must be fun at parties. You know google exists right you could just look up what sussy baka means? Here let me help you since you clearly need it. [url=https://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=sussy+baka[/url] Apparently. Where did I write that? Stop making things up. Since you are new to posting on MAL, let me remind you of this useful diagram: Nothing, I have a thing against cliques and people who make alternative accounts, but it seems that my wrath was misdirected toward you, so I apologise about that. Ad hominem. I will not bother checking the existence of non-words online, especially insulting terms. By the way, the BBC code works like this: [url= ...]Link[/url]. _Maneki-Neko_ said: Meusnier said: How cute and coward at the same time to remove the " so that I do not see a notification. Too late! Once you submit your post, the notification is sent. I also thought about this possibility, but it did not work well with your "feminist" speech if you needed of your fiancé to defend your posts on an anime forum, and I preferred not mentioning it. You know that most feminist women in real life aren't "I need no men in life and might join an Amazon tribe tomorrow"-stereotypes? So how's that even an argument that her fiance supports her in her opinion? It had been some time since I had not seen a strawman. I also know that normal women do not need of anyone's help to win an argument on an anime forum, especially when the "enemy" has not even had the chance to reply once. vuxk said: Meusnier said: @PushMePullYou @Osmatic You do not need to use your alternative accounts to try winning against @vuxk by number only. Only one minute of difference to rate the same anime XX... That must be a coincidence. Thanks, sorry it caused you to be attacked by enraged women here. No worries, you should have ignored everything they said about me as I was not wise enough to do. |
| Wow bump coz this thread is highly entertaining. Sorry but I have nothing to add. |
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| Personally I think you should invest some time in self-knowledge, and if a person cheats once, they will cheat again, no matter how much time passes. And in an interpersonal relationship there will always be internal conflict and games to see who dominates the relationship, and in your case she is trying to dominate you, dump her for good, cut off contact with her, if you are afraid of being marked in court, print everything , collect evidence and prepare to face the storm. |
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People are put into categories whether we like it or not. Value systems and markets exist whether we acknowledge them or not. |
jpsklr said: Personally I think you should invest some time in self-knowledge, and if a person cheats once, they will cheat again, no matter how much time passes. And in an interpersonal relationship there will always be internal conflict and games to see who dominates the relationship, and in your case she is trying to dominate you, dump her for good, cut off contact with her, if you are afraid of being marked in court, print everything , collect evidence and prepare to face the storm. Well this is pretty much exactly what @vuxk was alluding to aswell. Now you see my hesitation in marrying her. Despite it bei God’s way and me actually wanting to marry her I know that she is trying to take control and once she has that ring of power there won’t be anything to hold her back. The moment I fail to keep her happy feelings topped up it could be all over. The only thing that might stop her is her being aware that a lot of these women who get divorced with kids aren’t able to do better than the guy that they left (for no reason) the way that they thought that they could. Most guys don’t want to be step daddy and women should be wary of those who do. Not to mention the kids will never accept the step father as their real father and will only see him as an obstacle preventing their parents from getting back together. And the women won’t put the step daddy before the children either. It’s all just a big mess. Women can be agents of chaos sometimes and they always expect some man to come along and save them from themselves. |
SemillaMinoria said: People are put into categories whether we like it or not. Value systems and markets exist whether we acknowledge them or not. https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=sexual+marketplace+value#filters The issue with that logic is Values are SUPER SUBJECTIVE varying Massively between each and every person same with the categories you could put people in. The idea of SMV attributes itself to thinking those sorts of variables are the same but they aren't. it's a shitty way to judge people and putting them into categories dehumanises them even if some systems exist in the minds of some people treating people like they are no more than a value number is incel behaviour. Also it ignores an important factor Attractiveness is MASSIVELY impacted by emotions and intelligence and personality as well as how close someone is to said person and how confident they are etc those variables can't be summed down to a single value let alone a few values. So even if an inherent value did exist we wouldn't be able to accurately estimate such a thing so there is no point in even giving it any merit. Beautiful people date ugly people ugly people date ugly people , beautiful people date beautiful people.........at the end of the day each person is unique and has their own standards and sexual attraction is not set in stone. If their theory on putting people into categories and value systems can account for that then they have some validity and if they can't which they don't right now they are nothing more than a way to dehumanise people and an excuse for incels to sling around whilst they whine WAAAH GIRLS WON'T LIKE MEEEE. |
_Maneki-Neko_ said: SemillaMinoria said: People are put into categories whether we like it or not. Value systems and markets exist whether we acknowledge them or not. I think it's ironic tho that men, who have this "men going their own way"-shit mindset in their head, are scared to get close to women (emotionally) and call that "simping", but you all simp for society and other people's standards instead of just being an individium and telling others to fuck off, if they view you through the lenses of their superficial and low niveau? And that's fine or what? To me it seems like you all need a better self-esteem. Seriously, I just let everyone let know that they can fuck off otherwise. That's how I find easily people who genuinely care for mw and aren't these shitty shallow people. I'd rather be alone than simping for someone, who doesn't even the "core" of my personality, mindset or how I look like. I knew a few people like that in my environment, educational and jobwise, and I always feel kinda "dirty", when I can't tell them how I feel about them. And you women reject your natural femininity and submissiveness towards men but you submit to your employers and zaddy (government / police). RyuRabbit said: SemillaMinoria said: People are put into categories whether we like it or not. Value systems and markets exist whether we acknowledge them or not. https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=sexual+marketplace+value#filters The issue with that logic is Values are SUPER SUBJECTIVE varying Massively between each and every person same with the categories you could put people in. The idea of SMV attributes itself to thinking those sorts of variables are the same but they aren't. it's a shitty way to judge people and putting them into categories dehumanises them even if some systems exist in the minds of some people treating people like they are no more than a value number is incel behaviour. Also it ignores an important factor Attractiveness is MASSIVELY impacted by emotions and intelligence and personality as well as how close someone is to said person and how confident they are etc those variables can't be summed down to a single value let alone a few values. So even if an inherent value did exist we wouldn't be able to accurately estimate such a thing so there is no point in even giving it any merit. Beautiful people date ugly people ugly people date ugly people , beautiful people date beautiful people.........at the end of the day each person is unique and has their own standards and sexual attraction is not set in stone. If their theory on putting people into categories and value systems can account for that then they have some validity and if they can't which they don't right now they are nothing more than a way to dehumanise people and an excuse for incels to sling around whilst they whine WAAAH GIRLS WON'T LIKE MEEEE. Yes I agree but it is what it is. My personal value system is a religious one. |
SemillaMinoria said: And you women reject your natural femininity and submissiveness towards men  Transcend your mortal vessel and become one. This is the funniest shit I've seen written in awhile |
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| One thing CD has taught me. Straight people sure are wild. |
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operationvalkyri said: Men are untrustworthy cheaters, psychologically damaging their partners. did you just speak for ALL MEN? what the heck |
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