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Jun 23, 2021 3:21 AM
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Well you can already by how they decided to rush through and reveal the next 50 chapters with info dumps and new plot points that they're going anime original.

In the manga, after the end of the Debut Arc, it was a nice set up for a second season. It revealed the different party's motivations and had just enough cliffhangers that you want to read more.

Now this isn't going to get a second season (most anime don't) but if the purpose of the anime is to advertise the manga and make people continue the story there, why do this? There's no benefits.

1. Wasting money on 2 extra episodes when they could've ended it at 11
2. Disappoints manga readers
3. Anime-only get confused
4. Completely butchers any chance for a sequel (even if 0.1% chance)
Jun 23, 2021 5:12 AM
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I didn’t read manga, for me is very good by now.
Jun 23, 2021 5:15 AM
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Slightly off-topic, but why is it that Cloverworks are rushing shows? Horimiya cut a ton of stuff, same with TPN 2. I hope that this doesn't become a trend in shows being adapted by them.
Jun 23, 2021 6:10 AM
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I’m not confused, and I enjoyed the latest episode. Granted, I might prefer the manga story over the anime original story when I start reading it, but if I’d never looked at discussion boards I never would have guessed this was anime original or rushed. Assuming the show does well, we’ll probably get a season 2. A manga reader’s opinion isn’t going to hurt the chances of a season 2.
Jun 23, 2021 7:52 AM
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I have this on plan to watch idk when I’ll watch it though because I watch things in alphabetical order so should I not watch it for that reason orrr...
Jun 23, 2021 8:09 AM
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Did shadows house anime rush the story? If yes, how many chapters did it skip?
Jun 23, 2021 8:29 AM
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ZeppeliGo said:
I didn’t read manga, for me is very good by now.
ZeppeliGo said:
I didn’t read manga, for me is very good by now.

Same lol, every manga reader's crying rn abput how they're doing something/changing the story/starting an arc that shouldn't rn.
Jun 23, 2021 8:33 AM
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As an anime-only watcher, I can say absolutely and definitively, 100%, I would rather have a rushed ending than either:

A) 11 episodes versus 13

or

B) A cliffhanger setup for a second season which never comes

(Or both)

In the latter case, there's enough anime like that already and I'm sick of it. I'm not going to read the manga, so just give me all that you can in the televised series and utilize whatever time you're allotted to make the best of it. I don't need more endless teases; it gets very tedious and frustrating after a while.

Jun 23, 2021 8:40 AM
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Shengud said:
Slightly off-topic, but why is it that Cloverworks are rushing shows? Horimiya cut a ton of stuff, same with TPN 2. I hope that this doesn't become a trend in shows being adapted by them.

Even if they are changing stuff for Shadow house I don't think it's a problem for Anime onlies because most Anime onlies I've encountered are perfectly fine with it even though I'm not a fan of this trend at all.I guess they were going for Mappa route by taking a ton of popular shows at the same time I mean,Winter already had Horimiya and Wonder egg and that's pretty rare for studios having two popular shows in a season.

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Scordolo said:
Shengud said:
Slightly off-topic, but why is it that Cloverworks are rushing shows? Horimiya cut a ton of stuff, same with TPN 2. I hope that this doesn't become a trend in shows being adapted by them.

Even if they are changing stuff for Shadow house I don't think it's a problem for Anime onlies because most Anime onlies I've encountered are perfectly fine with it even though I'm not a fan of this trend at all.I guess they were going for Mappa route by taking a ton of popular shows at the same time I mean,Winter already had Horimiya and Wonder egg and that's pretty rare for studios having two popular shows in a season.
True, still disappointing though.
Jun 24, 2021 10:53 AM
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Mirage_69 said:
Did shadows house anime rush the story? If yes, how many chapters did it skip?


They didn't technically skip anything because they're going for an anime original ending.

But the anime original ending spoils the rest of the plot after the debut arc which is another 50 chapters.

So you can say they compressed the next 50 chapters into 3 episodes.
Jun 24, 2021 1:58 PM

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As someone who reads/watches both anime and manga, so far it has been really good, even if the plot deviated on ep11.
Hopefully even the original plot for the anime is really good like the rest of the anime so far.

Shengud said:
Slightly off-topic, but why is it that Cloverworks are rushing shows? Horimiya cut a ton of stuff, same with TPN 2. I hope that this doesn't become a trend in shows being adapted by them.
It's the higher management that rushed the authors.
Cloverworks tries their best to make do with what they get.

I mean think about it, why would a studio put that much effort to make the visuals and soundtrack good and then rush the plot? They try their best with what they're given. Blame the upper management.
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Shengud said:
Slightly off-topic, but why is it that Cloverworks are rushing shows? Horimiya cut a ton of stuff, same with TPN 2. I hope that this doesn't become a trend in shows being adapted by them.
fr, if they mess up again with shadows house im gonna be pretty pissed... they're already standing on thin ice, might lose all trust in them if they do a botched/rushed ending or something similar with this anime as they did with tpn and wep.
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spaesu said:
Shengud said:
Slightly off-topic, but why is it that Cloverworks are rushing shows? Horimiya cut a ton of stuff, same with TPN 2. I hope that this doesn't become a trend in shows being adapted by them.
fr, if they mess up again with shadows house im gonna be pretty pissed... they're already standing on thin ice, might lose all trust in them if they do a botched/rushed ending or something similar with this anime as they did with tpn and wep.


get ready to be pissed after today's episode, it was extra trash
Jun 26, 2021 9:46 AM
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KuroNekoAlchemy said:
spaesu said:
fr, if they mess up again with shadows house im gonna be pretty pissed... they're already standing on thin ice, might lose all trust in them if they do a botched/rushed ending or something similar with this anime as they did with tpn and wep.


get ready to be pissed after today's episode, it was extra trash


Well, at least we got to see Ryan's face. I just wanted to see that, and I would be content. lol.

at least we still have the manga. Altho it's a shame that we couldn't at least get an amazing first season like TPN. ah well. such is the case with many anime.


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It's just typical of CloverWorks at this point. They ruined TPN, and SH is next. They force the authors to change the story just to fit everything in the number of eps they choose.
Ep 11 was the worst episode so far. Hopefully it gets better in the next 2 eps but those will follow the rushed events that happened in ep 11 so I doubt it.

It's not like they're doing what they've been contracted to do, right? They should pay out of their own pockets to adapt everything, not just what they was told to do.
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Sondfer said:
Artorias- said:
It's just typical of CloverWorks at this point. They ruined TPN, and SH is next. They force the authors to change the story just to fit everything in the number of eps they choose.
Ep 11 was the worst episode so far. Hopefully it gets better in the next 2 eps but those will follow the rushed events that happened in ep 11 so I doubt it.

It's not like they're doing what they've been contracted to do, right? They should pay out of their own pockets to adapt everything, not just what they was told to do.


Who said anything about adapting everything.

Everyone is saying they should ADAPT LESS.
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coolxal said:

Everyone is saying they should ADAPT LESS.

They can't adapt less if studio is told to get to a certain point of a story before the end of the season.
Do you think that what happened to the TPN was just studio's fault and not what production commitee told them?
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Sondfer said:
coolxal said:

Everyone is saying they should ADAPT LESS.

They can't adapt less if studio is told to get to a certain point of a story before the end of the season.
Do you think that what happened to the TPN was just studio's fault and not what production commitee told them?


you seem to be confused about something

here, let me tell you in a way that will leave no room for misinterpretation

They arent adapting anything now. They went anime original. Anime...original! None of that happened in manga.
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KuroNekoAlchemy said:
Sondfer said:

They can't adapt less if studio is told to get to a certain point of a story before the end of the season.
Do you think that what happened to the TPN was just studio's fault and not what production commitee told them?


you seem to be confused about something

here, let me tell you in a way that will leave no room for misinterpretation

They arent adapting anything now. They went anime original. Anime...original! None of that happened in manga.

Maybe you should read the first post that i quoted.
Even if it's anime original ending - it had to be approved/forced by production commitee for a reason, there is no studio's fault.
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Sondfer said:
KuroNekoAlchemy said:


you seem to be confused about something

here, let me tell you in a way that will leave no room for misinterpretation

They arent adapting anything now. They went anime original. Anime...original! None of that happened in manga.

Maybe you should read the first post that i quoted.
Even if it's anime original ending - it had to be approved/forced by production commitee for a reason, there is no studio's fault.


It's always funny when people think anime-original = bad directing choices. The reason why it didn't work for something like TPN was because the team for that one just COMPLETELY gave up on the project entirely a few episodes in. Heck, the end credits by around the later episodes of that actual 1/10 abomination show them practically gone poof.

For Shadows House, they've at least indicated they're trying to work something out, which is WAY WAY better than just getting up and leaving.

I'm not trying to defend whatever ending Shadows House anime will come up with, but more so why I feel like it's too harsh to judge this sort of decision as of right now even with the latest episode.
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Well at least it's not horrible but our favourite scheming debutant soot monsters suddenly switching to scooby gang mode was a bit inconsistent if you ask me.
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KuroNekoAlchemy said:
spaesu said:
fr, if they mess up again with shadows house im gonna be pretty pissed... they're already standing on thin ice, might lose all trust in them if they do a botched/rushed ending or something similar with this anime as they did with tpn and wep.


get ready to be pissed after today's episode, it was extra trash
oof, i haven't watched it yet but i really hope they didn't mess it up... (will edit this post when i get to watching it)

edit: ok so it wasnt too bad but it does feel kinda rushed and stuff so idk... not terrible though, i guess this is what they had to do since the episode constraints.
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no, they are changing it in a way that it ties up the story enough. the author said on twiter that they already know how to tie the loose ends if they make a season 2. this is just here, because there is a good chance that we never get a season 2, so they wanted to end this season in way that feel like a somewhat semi-completed story.
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arshiapolygons2 said:
no, they are changing it in a way that it ties up the story enough. the author said on twiter that they already know how to tie the loose ends if they make a season 2. this is just here, because there is a good chance that we never get a season 2, so they wanted to end this season in way that feel like a somewhat semi-completed story.


I didn't watch episodes 11 and 12 but I'm a manga reader. They're cutting the maryrose arc and going all original?
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arshiapolygons2 said:
no, they are changing it in a way that it ties up the story enough. the author said on twiter that they already know how to tie the loose ends if they make a season 2. this is just here, because there is a good chance that we never get a season 2, so they wanted to end this season in way that feel like a somewhat semi-completed story.


It's not just loose ends, they would have to write a whole new story from scratch if they want to make a second season. Ricky and Lou are already un-brainwashed, Louise and Patrick already don't care about the House rules, they are going to deal with Edward now and I sure hope they don't reintroduce Rum and Shirley next episode.

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arshiapolygons2 said:
no, they are changing it in a way that it ties up the story enough. the author said on twiter that they already know how to tie the loose ends if they make a season 2. this is just here, because there is a good chance that we never get a season 2, so they wanted to end this season in way that feel like a somewhat semi-completed story.


I didn't watch episodes 11 and 12 but I'm a manga reader. They're cutting the maryrose arc and going all original?


Not really, they took the next 4 chapters and instead of using those are making an original mini ending to create a conclusion incase there is no second season.

As a manga reader, Episode 12 did not give any actual reveals that would disrupt the story. The ending to this first season could have been put where it is in the manga and not much would change. Nothing was revealed or changed that doesn't come later (except for one moment that I won't talk about).

As for people who did watch it, the part with Ricky and Lou waking up is explained pretty close to where this is in the manga. So honestly don't see that part as an issue.
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Kbenicio said:
arshiapolygons2 said:
no, they are changing it in a way that it ties up the story enough. the author said on twiter that they already know how to tie the loose ends if they make a season 2. this is just here, because there is a good chance that we never get a season 2, so they wanted to end this season in way that feel like a somewhat semi-completed story.


I didn't watch episodes 11 and 12 but I'm a manga reader. They're cutting the maryrose arc and going all original?


idk tbh. i haven't read the manga, i just saw the authors tweet about it
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arshiapolygons2 said:
no, they are changing it in a way that it ties up the story enough. the author said on twiter that they already know how to tie the loose ends if they make a season 2. this is just here, because there is a good chance that we never get a season 2, so they wanted to end this season in way that feel like a somewhat semi-completed story.


It's not just loose ends, they would have to write a whole new story from scratch if they want to make a second season. Ricky and Lou are already un-brainwashed, Louise and Patrick already don't care about the House rules, they are going to deal with Edward now and I sure hope they don't reintroduce Rum and Shirley next episode.



if the author says they know how to fix the plot holes i there is a season 2, i believe them. if nothing else they can just continue from ep 10 and call these last three episodes a "what if".
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they are going to deal with Edward now and I sure hope they don't reintroduce Rum and Shirley next episode.

I'm betting a 1000$ they will!
At this point it's inevitable!
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they are going to deal with Edward now and I sure hope they don't reintroduce Rum and Shirley next episode.

I'm betting a 1000$ they will!
At this point it's inevitable!


yes I bet it will be something like Edward puts Emilico an Kate in the coffin from before, Rum opens it from outside and saves them.
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I'm betting a 1000$ they will!
At this point it's inevitable!


yes I bet it will be something like Edward puts Emilico an Kate in the coffin from before, Rum opens it from outside and saves them.

God that's so bad, but wouldn't be surprised lol
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We can summarize the whole discussion as:

Manga-readers: This is pure trash, CloverWorks ruined it again.

Anime-only (like me): This is great and I'm loving it.

By the way, I'm not confused at all and I think everything makes a lot of sense. Also, it doesn't mean it's bad just because it's different from the source.

If we are never getting a second season, then making the ending all original is actually a nice move. Since we can have a more satisfying way to end for anime-only watchers. I hate the typical "now go read the manga lol" kind of ending.

Seeing some japanese answers of the post about the original ending, I saw lots of people actually liking the idea, since it will tie with the manga at the very end, so it's basically a different way of thinking how the story could reach that certain point.
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Anime-only (like me): This is great and I'm loving it.

Not really since I am not reading the manga and I don't like what is happening after the middle of episode 11. Many of the personages are acting out of character.
You are not summarizing us fairly.
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arshiapolygons2 said:
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It's not just loose ends, they would have to write a whole new story from scratch if they want to make a second season. Ricky and Lou are already un-brainwashed, Louise and Patrick already don't care about the House rules, they are going to deal with Edward now and I sure hope they don't reintroduce Rum and Shirley next episode.



if the author says they know how to fix the plot holes i there is a season 2, i believe them. if nothing else they can just continue from ep 10 and call these last three episodes a "what if".


Bruh, that's what the author of Tokyo Ghoul said. Then we got the shit show that was Tokyo Ghoul Root A.

Then the author said, no worries we'll ignore the ending of Root A and adapt the sequel, Tokyo Ghoul:Re and that was an even bigger shit show.

Most of the time the authors are bullshitting.
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Hayuume said:
We can summarize the whole discussion as:

Manga-readers: This is pure trash, CloverWorks ruined it again.

Anime-only (like me): This is great and I'm loving it.

By the way, I'm not confused at all and I think everything makes a lot of sense. Also, it doesn't mean it's bad just because it's different from the source.

If we are never getting a second season, then making the ending all original is actually a nice move. Since we can have a more satisfying way to end for anime-only watchers. I hate the typical "now go read the manga lol" kind of ending.

Seeing some japanese answers of the post about the original ending, I saw lots of people actually liking the idea, since it will tie with the manga at the very end, so it's basically a different way of thinking how the story could reach that certain point.


You don't speak for anime-only.

I'm glad @alshu put you in your place.
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Don't even know why I am answering this but anyway.

"Put you in your place" makes it sound I was trying to offend you when I was just answering your post, mostly based in my opinion. You don't need to be aggressive.

Yes, I was wrong being too generalist when saying everyone was loving it, but all I did was to compare my thoughts with the first answers from this post, since if you look at the first 6 or whatever posts you will see some people saying they are actually enjoying the show.

@alshu I didn't meant to speak for everyone here, my bad. I agree that some things sounded out of place but I still think is pretty enjoyable.
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Don't even know why I am answering this but anyway.

"Put you in your place" makes it sound I was trying to offend you when I was just answering your post, mostly based in my opinion. You don't need to be aggressive.

Yes, I was wrong being too generalist when saying everyone was loving it, but all I did was to compare my thoughts with the first answers from this post, since if you look at the first 6 or whatever posts you will see some people saying they are actually enjoying the show.

@alshu I didn't meant to speak for everyone here, my bad. I agree that some things sounded out of place but I still think is pretty enjoyable.


It is still enjoyable because the first 10 episode were enjoyable, it is the same kind of nostalgia it happened with game of thrones where people liked the last few seasons only because the first ones were good. The pillars on which the story is based with the episode 1-10 are strong and good So, the whole still looks good but in reality the last episodes were bad, they just shine from the greatness of previous episode
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coolxal said:
arshiapolygons2 said:


if the author says they know how to fix the plot holes i there is a season 2, i believe them. if nothing else they can just continue from ep 10 and call these last three episodes a "what if".


Bruh, that's what the author of Tokyo Ghoul said. Then we got the shit show that was Tokyo Ghoul Root A.

Then the author said, no worries we'll ignore the ending of Root A and adapt the sequel, Tokyo Ghoul:Re and that was an even bigger shit show.

Most of the time the authors are bullshitting.


well, ummmm... fine... i guess we just have to see. i'm most likely going tp read the manga for this anyways.

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