what do you think of oregairu season 3 ending

wape said:
It's one of those endings no one's really happy.

Yes, me included.

spectrojan said:
Nah it was actually good unlike the rest of the season. A pity people forgot how boring episodes 2-10 were while rating the show. That prom arc shit was a grind

spectrojan said:
A pity people forgot how boring episodes 2-10 were while rating the show.

Dekata_Printoki said:
I hated this season .
The whole reason we looked up to 8man was because of his selflessness, the way he never takes credit for anything he does

This season ,he was totally selfish nothing like the 8man we know of,like look at how much he hurt yui , even after knowing her feelings for him.

I dont know what happened to watari for him to end such a master piece in the worst way possible ,but it was not like him to write such senseless trash

Absolutely disgusted with the end

therahulplay said:
U Yes thought as much no one who has followed the series is gonna like it

Either you liked Yukinon or there might be some other reasson i dont know but to most of us the ending was bad and i am saying this because i have red the light novel too

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wape said:
It's one of those endings no one's really happy.

Yes, me included.

A_G_N said:
How is the last ep bad man? They literally copy pasted stuff from the LN, or are you talking about the build up or something to those last two eps? Or is it that you didnt like the LN end either???

therahulplay said:
R Yes i have red the light novel and i hated the ending i pretty much skipped the last volume just after the confession i just couldnt read it for me it was that bad and its just my personal openion if you liked the ending than good for you it just wasnt for me.

A_G_N said:
So the ship was the problem? I mean, you should have gotten from the 1st vol itself that Yui would have never worked man, and Hachiman and Yukino were inseppurable? Why would you delude yourself of the fact that Yui or anyone remotely had a chance? Yui's pretty much everything Hachiman didnt want, or is it something else that you hate from the ending?

therahulplay said:
Have you Read the light novels if you have you wouldnt say that but if you are still saying that maybe people really have different opinions cant argue with that

A_G_N said:
So the ship was the problem? I mean, you should have gotten from the 1st vol itself that Yui would have never worked man, and Hachiman and Yukino were inseparable? Why would you delude yourself of the fact that Yui or anyone remotely had a chance? Yui's pretty much everything Hachiman didnt want, or is it something else that you hate from the ending?

h0ll0wxvict0ry said:


What ship sailed isn't the main issue, the issue is how it was handled.

Whether or not Hachiman is selfish or selfless in his previous actions, in prior seasons the things he did always had consequences. However in this season everything he desires just works out. And thank god he does, because no problem can be solved without his intervention. It's like the author got tired of the series and just high fived the main couple across the finish line, which is a bad departure from the more realistic outlook the show previously had.
Apparently Yui is just fine with having her heart broken as days later she went back to help her crush and his new love with their new project. I want to remind you that during the bench talk Hachiman said because he doesn't keep in touch with people, the end of the club would mean end of friendship with the girl not chosen. By pursuing Yukino, he is not only rejecting Yui but is abandoning their friendship as well.

The writing aside there is also general pacing issues in the anime. Most of the season revolved around Yui, whose fans like the episodes but hated the ending. The reverse is true for Yukino fans. The final result is that nobody is happy. This is quite similar to how everybody hated Death Note's ending.

A_G_N said:
I mean, its really only the anime's fault, it was pretty much all explained and everything in LN, Yui already knew she didnt have a chance, she's already gotten indirectpy rejected multiple times by Hachiman, first one being s2 last ep, it really wasnt something new to her, she's been dealing with her loss for a long time, anime tho changes stuff and makes it seem like Yui had a chance, thats why she's able to adjust, because ep 4 is when she adjusted, so its easy for her now, yes it hurts but she had accepted it long ago.

Hachiman's actions does have consequences but anime cuts everything out, anime also cuts out 70% of Hachiman monologues which states how helpless he is this season, this season was him finally finding the courage to let go of his self worth issues and finally go for his selfish wish in the clearest manner possible. Its all done well in LN, any issue you have with season 3 is only anime's fault, they cut out the Hachiyuki buildup, they glorified Yui, they cut out most of the important monologues, the prom issue was handled poorly in anime, Hachiman's win over Yukimom was Yukimom actually giving the win to him in ep 8 because she was interested to find out why this boy was doing so much(creating a fake prom) for one girl. Yukimom knew about it all, but anime instead makes it seem pile Hachiman pulled a 200 IQ strat when all he did was beg and Yukimom gave it to him.

If you wanna find out what actually happens, just read the last three vols, its all in there, or the manga or something, the author handled it well, just check the Top LN's in MAL, oregairu is still at 3rd place, every season has downgraded the volumes to an acceptable level from the masterful writing it was, and season 3 was just the cherry on the top..

I can assure you, the LN Hachiman and Anime Hachiman are two different people, anime Hachiman's just a husk of his actual self. Same with Yukino, and Yui and Iroha were glorified by anime to this unrealistic ideal girls than they were originally, and Yukino was nerfed to death to be on their level, all to maintain the "mystery" of who would win even though it was pretty much guranteed from vol 1 that it would be either Yukino ending or loner ending with how much Hachiman thinks about Yukino whenever they meet, wouldnt be far fetched to say that half the 17 volumes are just Hachiman going shakespeare mode on emphasizing Yukino..

Like I said, one of the best, and I'm not kidding here, possibly the best couple in all of anime was nerfed to death by studio. Ep 11's confession should tell you enough how much was cut out for Hachiman to feel that way about Yukino, the writing and their chemistry in that ep is how they usually interact when the situation isnt usually complicated, but anime cuts it out, so a series with realistic characters is intead turned into a harem. Hint that anime is not faithful : Iroha is actually chasing after Hayama, Hachiman's a side fling for her which she would accept if he tries, but her main end goal is still Hayama, anime instead changes it to her actually likimg Hachiman more, ergo, Harem vibes...

Srry if you didnt like the season, the season was easily supposed to be the best in terms of adapting but they still messed up.. big time..

h0ll0wxvict0ry said:


Before I got into this series my friend who did read the LN pretty much gave the same speech to me (I didn't start watching till early this year). This is why I'm not upset at all about Yukino winning as I was told in the LN it was made clear from the get go. In the anime it was less obvious but the signs were still there.

Ultimately though this board is for the anime, specifically season 3. The quality of the LN doesn't excuse how the season butchered things. I will say that I hope in the LN Yui and other characters got proper closure. Especially Yui, who hopefully didn't just "get over it". Considering that there is a continuation to the LN I'm guessing the author does want to expand on it so there's still hope for a sequel to make things better.

raikkonen26 said:
It was fine. But there doesn't seem to be a huge build up on Hachiman and Yuki's relationship then suddenly the next thing we know they're lovey-dovey. It just felt weird when both of them are recluse.

Dekata_Printoki said:
I hated this season .
The whole reason we looked up to 8man was because of his selflessness, the way he never takes credit for anything he does

This season ,he was totally selfish nothing like the 8man we know of,like look at how much he hurt yui , even after knowing her feelings for him.

I dont know what happened to watari for him to end such a master piece in the worst way possible ,but it was not like him to write such senseless trash

Absolutely disgusted with the end

IrrelevantGuy said:

I don't know if you are joking or not. The whole point of Oregairu is to show Hachiman's development as a person and that most of Hachiman's past beliefs are actually flawed. His "selflessness" in the previous seasons, despite being effective to some extent, actually hurt a lot of people including him. The present Hachiman, who has decided to be a little "selfish", is rather doing a way better job in making everyone genuinely happy, himself included.

Dekata_Printoki said:


I know ,but what was the point of all the desperation for something genuine if the answer was a normie (raijuu) life
And don't get me wrong , I do love oregairu enough to read all the light novels , I just felt that the volume 1 to 7.5 was more painful and heartwarming at the same time , volume 10 to 14 just didn't have the same feels

return30223 said:
It was fine I guess since I saw it coming anyways. But still annoys me how Yukino holds no weight, just runs away from the issue or problem until Hachiman comes to save her unlike other Yui who actually take that leap forward to get what she wanted. Of course trying harder shouldn't reward you the win which makes sense but the story didn't give me any thought that Yukino deserved Hachiman other than the fact that he liked her and that they were compatible with eachother. Yukino goes from "save me someday" to "grant Yuis wish" to "I take it back" when Hachiman runs to her. Like how many time are you gunna change your mind, all you did was prolong everything and make the loser suffer more.

return30223 said:


I've read the LN and that dosent change the fact that Yukino didnt pull any weight and Hachiman always came to save her. The monolouges only show her thoughts and that only shows her emotions im talking about what she actually did to try for Hachiman which is not much but him saving her. And valuing others more than oneself is true and not true, in the end she still went with Hachiman so I guess it was more valuable than her giving up her 'wish'. As for suffering downplaying by saying it was done to oneself dosent make it any better, in reality everyone could avoid their suffering in this case if they wanted to its not like anyone was forcing Hachiman and Yukino to suffer because of the love triangle as well they could have ended it early.. And bruh really? Lol.. manipulated into thinking shes bad for Hachiman, now thats some next level of victimizing. It's her choice into thinking if shes good than Hachiman, stop acting like Yui manipulated her into thinking she wasnt a good fit for him? Thats such a reach.

k4fourteen said:
well as an oregairu fans. i am satisfied, and at the final episode yukino finally confess her feeling towards 8man.

Chizuru_Mizuhara said:


I am a Oregairu fan and Yui plus Iroha deserve a ending outcome just like Yukinos final episode

Dekata_Printoki said:
I hated this season .
The whole reason we looked up to 8man was because of his selflessness, the way he never takes credit for anything he does

This season ,he was totally selfish nothing like the 8man we know of,like look at how much he hurt yui , even after knowing her feelings for him.

I dont know what happened to watari for him to end such a master piece in the worst way possible ,but it was not like him to write such senseless trash

Absolutely disgusted with the end

Hikki_Senpai said:

Just stop spreading hate on forums for every damn popular anime... thats all i can say. I mean this question is just pointless. Also Hachiman was always selfish. If you dont know that than maybe you dont really dont know the meaning of word *selfish*.
Now Please dont send me hateful private messages or some crap like that i am a die hard fan of Oregaairu or i am a simp for yukino blah blah.... I have seen this a lot..

HHYYBS said:


Die hard fans of oregairu and top simps for yukino would agree that this season was trash.

Hikki_Senpai said:

Just stop spreading hate on forums for every damn popular anime... thats all i can say. I mean this question is just pointless. Also Hachiman was always selfish. If you dont know that than maybe you dont really dont know the meaning of word *selfish*.
Now Please dont send me hateful private messages or some crap like that i am a die hard fan of Oregaairu or i am a simp for yukino blah blah.... I have seen this a lot..

A_G_N said:
I mean, its really only the anime's fault, it was pretty much all explained and everything in LN, Yui already knew she didnt have a chance, she's already gotten indirectpy rejected multiple times by Hachiman, first one being s2 last ep, it really wasnt something new to her, she's been dealing with her loss for a long time, anime tho changes stuff and makes it seem like Yui had a chance, thats why she's able to adjust, because ep 4 is when she adjusted, so its easy for her now, yes it hurts but she had accepted it long ago.

Hachiman's actions does have consequences but anime cuts everything out, anime also cuts out 70% of Hachiman monologues which states how helpless he is this season, this season was him finally finding the courage to let go of his self worth issues and finally go for his selfish wish in the clearest manner possible. Its all done well in LN, any issue you have with season 3 is only anime's fault, they cut out the Hachiyuki buildup, they glorified Yui, they cut out most of the important monologues, the prom issue was handled poorly in anime, Hachiman's win over Yukimom was Yukimom actually giving the win to him in ep 8 because she was interested to find out why this boy was doing so much(creating a fake prom) for one girl. Yukimom knew about it all, but anime instead makes it seem pile Hachiman pulled a 200 IQ strat when all he did was beg and Yukimom gave it to him.

If you wanna find out what actually happens, just read the last three vols, its all in there, or the manga or something, the author handled it well, just check the Top LN's in MAL, oregairu is still at 3rd place, every season has downgraded the volumes to an acceptable level from the masterful writing it was, and season 3 was just the cherry on the top..

I can assure you, the LN Hachiman and Anime Hachiman are two different people, anime Hachiman's just a husk of his actual self. Same with Yukino, and Yui and Iroha were glorified by anime to this unrealistic ideal girls than they were originally, and Yukino was nerfed to death to be on their level, all to maintain the "mystery" of who would win even though it was pretty much guranteed from vol 1 that it would be either Yukino ending or loner ending with how much Hachiman thinks about Yukino whenever they meet, wouldnt be far fetched to say that half the 17 volumes are just Hachiman going shakespeare mode on emphasizing Yukino..

Like I said, one of the best, and I'm not kidding here, possibly the best couple in all of anime was nerfed to death by studio. Ep 11's confession should tell you enough how much was cut out for Hachiman to feel that way about Yukino, the writing and their chemistry in that ep is how they usually interact when the situation isnt usually complicated, but anime cuts it out, so a series with realistic characters is intead turned into a harem. Hint that anime is not faithful : Iroha is actually chasing after Hayama, Hachiman's a side fling for her which she would accept if he tries, but her main end goal is still Hayama, anime instead changes it to her actually likimg Hachiman more, ergo, Harem vibes...

Srry if you didnt like the season, the season was easily supposed to be the best in terms of adapting but they still messed up.. big time..

HaarWyvern said:



Then what is the purpose of Yui's presence in the LN, why is she in the story ?
I asked it frankly, because I don't like oregairu's characters apart from Iroha and Yui so I won't read it but I'm still curious and I know from the start that she doesn't have a chance (that it's stupid for a harem, even if it's the same in most of them, and yeah maybe the LN wasn't an harem but the anime is (to me)) and I've read that it's even more obvious in the LN because of the Yukino focus.

I don't plan to watch the S3 too.
(Yeah I hate edgy guys&girls like 8man&Yukino are showed in the anime version, maybe because I'm pretty friendly IRL as Yui or Iroha myself and I don't like the way of thinking of the MC here.)

A_G_N said:

Hachiman's actions does have consequences but anime cuts everything out, anime also cuts out 70% of Hachiman monologues which states how helpless he is this season, this season was him finally finding the courage to let go of his self worth issues and finally go for his selfish wish in the clearest manner possible.

[...]

I can assure you, the LN Hachiman and Anime Hachiman are two different people, anime Hachiman's just a husk of his actual self. Same with Yukino, and Yui and Iroha were glorified by anime to this unrealistic ideal girls than they were originally, and Yukino was nerfed to death to be on their level, all to maintain the "mystery" of who would win even though it was pretty much guranteed from vol 1 that it would be either Yukino ending or loner ending with how much Hachiman thinks about Yukino whenever they meet, wouldnt be far fetched to say that half the 17 volumes are just Hachiman going shakespeare mode on emphasizing Yukino..

A_G_N said:
The purpose of the Yui scenes was to show how pained Hachiman was when he wasnt with Yukino, akd was with Yui, it showed how he cant be without Yukino, his monolgues show that the club was the only way for him to associate with Yukino. But anime cuts everything out, so thats why...

Yui's purpose in the story, tbh, everyone apart from Hachiman and Yukino are just plot devices if you look at it from a different perspective, albeit really really well done plot devices, atleast in the LN it is..

Now if you only like Yui and Iroha, its understandble since s2 glorified them both and made them look ideal to keep up with Yukino who was also really really nerfed to be equal to them, s3 dials back o Iroha a bit, but fully makes Yui scenes glorifed to max level, while cutting and changing Yukino scenes to make her appear less "sweet" atleast 50% of her and Hachiman's stuff was cut, and if Edginess is why you dont like them, thats fine, nobody likes their edgy selves that they had at the beginning, but it was understandable because of their shitty lives and so they created a barrier of edginess and coldess to help protect themselves, the whole point of the series is to make them normal at the end, s2 cut a lot of sweet moments of Hachiman and Yukino, atleast 30% was cut, but the last two eps of s3 which was basically copy pasted from LN, so it wasnt trash, shows how both of them are on the inside, if you dont plan on watching s3 thats fine, but if you wanna know how they are, watch the last two eps, that shows how Yukino is just a simple sweet girl with insecurites too, and how Hachiman is just a normal boy, albeit matured from his edgy self...

Kundalini said:
Did they cover everything from the Light Novel? This has officially ended?

The prom arc was a drag definitely. Honestly I didn't remember much of S1 (I read the wiki summary to catch up) and I picked up from S2 E7 for a recap of the feelings.. going by that I felt like this series probably wouldn't have a ship. And if a ship did happen, I was actually hoping it would have been Isshiki x Hachiman. She was a faaaaaaaar better match for Hachiman, and honestly the whole "genuineness" Hachiman was seeking was much more evident with Isshiki than with any of the other two female leads. Isshiki x Hachiman were way more open and honest with each other through the entire series, and the way the fondness between them developed actually had a lot of growth. And so rightly did Komachi instantly notice this personality match in Isshiki with their first meeting.
And I don't understand what she saw in Hayato at all. Even when she confessed to Hayato, didn't Hayato say it felt as if he saw that Isshiki's feelings didn't feel like they were fully directed at him?

Yui x Yukino x Hachiman was definitely a whole set of distorted feelings, and it really needed to end. But they left no gap whatsoever between the "ending" and that "confession". I honestly thought it wasn't a love confession, that it was something deeper they sought to maintain, but then the next episode the whole dating and I love you bits came in, and it left me feeling flat, like.. wutt? -_-

And yet, Yui openly confessing to both of them in front of others was surprising. And just the fact that she says that it appears he has someone like a girlfriend made me more agreeable to the finale. It showed there was still an opening, and it wasn't necessarily a ship per se. Ahhhhhh so confusing, neeee!

Having said that, the dialogues were really good, and the vagueness of real life relationships definitely seeped in well. So I'm definitely confused about how I should rate this. And I wonder if my opinion of this ending would change if I tried to re-watch from S1 again. But I aint gonna be doing that. Nope.


Edit:

Huh.. soo ka naaaa... naruhodo... Welp, that's where I guess the characters started flatlining in the anime huh..

Reading 17 volumes.. nah, I'll pass it for now. I don't have that much free time. `_`