| Weak being envious of strong and successful is nothing new. Instead of jealousy it's better to emulate their success. They don't see all the effort that goes into becoming successful they just assume it comes overnight. |
 “There is great satisfaction in fighting for the sake of gaining power, but it’s joyless to fight for the sake of maintaining it.” – Reinhard Von Lohengramm |
| I think it's quite the opposite if anything, anyone that obsessed with the idea of being in a relationship just to be in a relationship, to the point where they act bitter and angry probably shouldn't be in one. It just seems like, under those circumstances, they are going to go from an angry and bitter virgin to an angry and bitter non-virgin. Obviously, there are exceptions as there are with anything but before you begin to focus on being romantically or sexually successful I think people need to have a level of comfort with themselves or they will merely be setting themselves up to get into a toxic situation or relationship. |
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| I had a friend who was bitter all the time and he was married. I watched when I visited, the awful, loud, enormous arguments they would have between each other. Now that he's divorced, he still gets pretty bitter when he's drunk and wishes he got laid more. A HAPPY relationship is worth a thousand words or none at all. An unhappy relationship is as bad as being single. Same with having a job or not, a bad job is worse than having no job at all. Most people can have a relationship if they want one. It usually comes with having other things stable in life. If you want a really good relationship you have to have a great job with great income and a great living environment that you own. Of course I speak of America where our materialism and inequality are so ratcheted up that we spend money on looking pretty and straightening our teeth and trying to seem "perfect" for appearance's sake. In my country we run our lives by the rat race. It's constant keeping up with the Joneses. I think this in itself is a deteriorating point of view. As you scramble to beat your fellow man there's three rich men who already have their boot heel on your neck. Trying to keep up with an impossible dream of wealth while opportunities dry up is a recipe for disaster. It's worth considering that in my country we have very little vacation, little pay, few benefits, our health care is actually tied to our employment. If we don't work, we're doomed to die. If we work, we suffer with almost no vacation and constant pressure. And it's all for the great Wall Street in the sky which is a casino for wealthy people with income they can bet, since they've fulfilled all their necessities. Incel seems to be a creation of America. I can't imagine it happening in countries with better work cultures or benefits or rights like healthcare. Does Canada have them? Norway? The UK? I would be surprised. Of course Germany has alt-right people but that's a response to immigration, right? The EU actually gives a fuck about their citizens from what I can tell. Honestly you look at modern day America and wonder if the communists didn't win after all? |
| Being angry and bitter don't help much in romance so I guess there migth be a relation. |
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| Why can't y'all just be happy fapping to 2D waifus?... I give 0 shits if I ever have "real" sex (raped 3 times by 3 different people before i was even 10...). Feeling good for a few seconds (climaxing) can be done with your hand too... 2D waifus are much better looking than IRL humans anyway. Idk... maybe I'm asexual or something?? I work, sleep, and then have an hour or 2 for other things in the day, which ccj is usually a movie or 3-6 episodes of an anime. On my day off its used for one of the following: House work Anime binge Finishing a video game Hanging with a friend or 2 That's it. If one of my closer friends was female, and she suggested sex, then I wouldn't mind as long as its protected. We'd both have to get tested for STDs, birth control, and good condom. Don't mind having a kid, but also don't want to work more than 50 hours to get by, and I want to have time for hobbies. I'm 29 and perfectly fine being a "virgin" for the rest of my existence. |
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Sad said: Ryuk9428 said: Yeah its definitely natural to be angry and bitter if you are a virgin. You can feel it really acutely if you go to a strip club. I just went to one a few days ago and I hadn't touched a girl in many months before then and its incredible how much having a cute/sexy girl grind on you and touch you for even just 15 minutes or so can change your mood. I swear that music sounds 3x better after getting a lap dance from a hot girl. You will find it hard not to sing out loud in your car. You know that feeling when you are really thirsty but you're so thirsty that you've gotten kind of accustomed to it? That's what going through a long dry spell is like. Your mind just isn't right but you are so accustomed to deprivation you don't know what it should look like. I recommend to any guy who's going through a dry spell to just give strip clubs a chance. Too many guys say they are above that or "shouldn't have to pay for it." But I'm telling you, when you finally have a beautiful girl rubbing herself up on you and being able to touch her thighs and run your fingers through her hair. Its like finally getting that glass of water. Everything suddenly feels right with the world. The colors look brighter, music sounds better. You have a more optimistic take on everything. You start looking at the world with a glass half full mindset instead of a glass half empty mindset. Look paying for sex is completely natural, you're not the first guy to do it, you won't be the last, and paying for sex is not even uncommon to begin with. Your ego is the biggest thing standing in the way of your happiness. You need to defeat your ego and just look at sex as a biological need that must be fulfilled instead of a status/popularity symbol that you engage in to look cool and chad-like to other people. u forgot to drop the footage of your visit to the strip club man, i gotchu bro https://youtu.be/7LXDraqxshs?t=104 That's actually the craziest thing I've seen all day, wow. |
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| I would say "It depends". I was a virgin until I was 24 and I was jealous and bitter towards other guys who weren't virgins and always had girls around them....in my mind I was a miserable failure with no hope or future. Finally, when I lost my virginity I realized that sex was not the "end all be all" that I once thought it was. I'm just glad that when I was in my early 20s there was no such thing as an "incel" or "red pills" or any of this shit that has poisoned the minds of many young men. |
| I'm a virgin, but I'm not lonely, and I only get angry/bitter with people that are less intelligent than me in my view. The reason I'm not particularly lonely is because I feel metaphysical connections with people online and with fictional characters. I've done e-roleplaying with a number of people on MAL, and with so much porn and twitter/instagram thottery, how can you actually complain? I'm going to take my sweet time with IRL. |
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| Maybe. I think part of it depends on if they actually see themselves as "lonely virgin guys" as opposed to just "virgin guys". Or really, if they see themselves as "lonely" in general with or without being a virgin. Admittedly, I think basing one's happiness off of anyone else for any reason is pretty unhealthy. Happiness should be able to come from the self. One shouldn't depend on others to make them happy. Sad said: At first I laughed. Then I was intrigued-- a bit in awe. And then I cried. I wasn't expecting this.Ryuk9428 said: Yeah its definitely natural to be angry and bitter if you are a virgin. You can feel it really acutely if you go to a strip club. I just went to one a few days ago and I hadn't touched a girl in many months before then and its incredible how much having a cute/sexy girl grind on you and touch you for even just 15 minutes or so can change your mood. I swear that music sounds 3x better after getting a lap dance from a hot girl. You will find it hard not to sing out loud in your car. You know that feeling when you are really thirsty but you're so thirsty that you've gotten kind of accustomed to it? That's what going through a long dry spell is like. Your mind just isn't right but you are so accustomed to deprivation you don't know what it should look like. I recommend to any guy who's going through a dry spell to just give strip clubs a chance. Too many guys say they are above that or "shouldn't have to pay for it." But I'm telling you, when you finally have a beautiful girl rubbing herself up on you and being able to touch her thighs and run your fingers through her hair. Its like finally getting that glass of water. Everything suddenly feels right with the world. The colors look brighter, music sounds better. You have a more optimistic take on everything. You start looking at the world with a glass half full mindset instead of a glass half empty mindset. Look paying for sex is completely natural, you're not the first guy to do it, you won't be the last, and paying for sex is not even uncommon to begin with. Your ego is the biggest thing standing in the way of your happiness. You need to defeat your ego and just look at sex as a biological need that must be fulfilled instead of a status/popularity symbol that you engage in to look cool and chad-like to other people. u forgot to drop the footage of your visit to the strip club man, i gotchu bro https://youtu.be/7LXDraqxshs?t=104 |
Swiggy said: Maybe. I think part of it depends on if they actually see themselves as "lonely virgin guys" as opposed to just "virgin guys". Or really, if they see themselves as "lonely" in general with or without being a virgin. Admittedly, I think basing one's happiness off of anyone else for any reason is pretty unhealthy. Happiness should be able to come from the self. One shouldn't depend on others to make them happy. Sad said: At first I laughed. Then I was intrigued-- a bit in awe. And then I cried. I wasn't expecting this.u forgot to drop the footage of your visit to the strip club man, i gotchu bro https://youtu.be/7LXDraqxshs?t=104 i'm waiting for louis theroux to go into the vr world and do a documentary, that will be good shit. but yeah that was kinda cute and unexpected, can't even remember how i found it lol |
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| I'd be surprised if a bad personality is only based off of not having sex. I doubt that's the only reason. |
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ProfessionalNEET said: While I feel that depending on people to fulfill a social need is not quite the same as depending on others for happiness, I do understand that social needs are one of the many aspects the average human feels they must achieve in order to create a balanced sense of self which leads to happiness. So petty much, you're right. Swiggy said: Happiness should be able to come from the self. One shouldn't depend on others to make them happy. That would be ideal, but it seems that everyone needs companionship of some sort. It doesn't necessarily need to be romantic companionship, but I doubt someone could maintain their sanity if they had to go for an extended period of time without and friends or family. I suspect a lot of incels and their ilk may be deprived of friendship in addition to romance, and it may be the lack of friendship more than the lack of romance that makes them bitter and angry. I should be saying, "One shouldn't depend on others individually to make them happy" to clarify. Of course, we depend on each other collectively to fill our social needs, but that's a bit different than expecting being in a relationship with someone to bring us happiness, for example. I also agree that a lack of friendships might be a large factor. Or really, a lack of fulfilling and supportive friendships. If they do happen to have great friendships and still have that bitterness, I tend to blame media portrayal of romantic relationships-- but that's a whole other topic.;; |
| HAHAHAHA!!! Is coffee more bitter than chocolate?!! HAHAHAHA!!! |
| Very funny that both types is quite common in most groups that I'm in, dominated by male audiences. It's usually the more sociable ones (online/offline) who tend to thrive even if they don't have romantic companions, too. |
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| Yo you just described me lmao. Although I am not bitter or angry towards anyone. If you are getting way too much coochie and also friends then good for ya mate. Also, I don't wear or like emo stuff and don't talk about edgy stuff all the time, but I have seen a ton of people around the internet, who are bitter and angry towards a lot of people just because they are not that successful. I am bitter and angry with myself, If you are better than me then good for you. |
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| I guess there can be overlap but I don't think its that straight forward. Maybe on average? I dunno |
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| As a former virgin, sex and romance (no longer in a relationship now) made less angry. Nothing wrong with that, humans need romance and/or sex at some point. You can't blame them for being angry or depressed. |
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| i used to be when i was younger (like in high school). but now i really couldnt care less. im single and happy with myself and with my life. my two best friends have girlfriends and one of them is flat out crazy and the other hasnt had a job in 8 months, so i dont care if im not having sex if it means i can avoid some stress |
| I said with a posed look |
| I think it has something to do with people who 100% rely their happiness on others while also borderline demanding that they should be THE attention of their circle versus people who gives themselves a lot of self love and self care and knows how to smart filter the people around them. And afaik, I've met girls who are just as horrible. Shivers. |
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| Well I for an example never had this much sex, but I had about 3 girls, today I am married, I don't think it has to do strictly with sex, but how people perceive you. I was a good looking guy a few years ago (nowadays is kinda questionable) and I could have almost any girl I wanted, I was just not too into it. But people would take notice of me, and wanted to copy me and my style. I think it really has to do with self-confidence |
| Problably but it depends on the person and the way they are |
| "If I get reincarnated… I wanna become a clam.” – Monkey D Luffy |
| Given some of the threads and replies posted in this very forum, the almost palpable rage in places like /r9k/ on 4chan, and the deluge of incel subreddits, the answer is obvious as shit. However, not all virgin men are like this. They know it's only temporary and they have a healthy self image |
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| I think only the immature virgins are upset about such pointless matters. I think their is no reason to get jealous over other peoples` lives. I believe in being happy for what you have which is easy to overlook. A lot of the very edgy men are the ones who were ruined in divorce or break ups. Being cheated on is a scar far worse than not engaging in the stuff in the first place from my perspective. |
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| I do find some people on here who clearly have never had sex (which is fine btw I’m not judging) judge people harshly that do and hate on them because they’ve never experienced that/a relationship. They think they’re above certain people and more pure. At the end of the day you’re Either a good person or a bad person whether you have sex or not doesn’t matter too much. Your situation can either make you a better person or a worse bitter person. There’s not any point in being a hater, it just makes you look pathetic that you can’t be happy for other people and bring them down just to make yourself feel a bit better. |
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