| I've seen A LOT of people saying they don't like the anime and I'm sure a lot of those people are those who've read the webtoon... maybe it's because I'm an anime-only, but I don't get why people don't like it? I'm really enjoying it so far. |
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kater_tot said: You probably just have low standards. Don’t let third parties dampen your enjoyment. Ignore the hate threads I guess?I've seen A LOT of people saying they don't like the anime and I'm sure a lot of those people are those who've read the webtoon... maybe it's because I'm an anime-only, but I don't get why people don't like it? I'm really enjoying it so far. |
| it's mostly webtoon readers who didn't like the fast pace,cuts and the changes made so far which prevented it from reaching its true potential.as for anime onlies,if you look at the score and the polls you'll realize it's doing good,not great but not bad either,but this time the haters are more vocal about it because this anime was hyped a lot. |
Lelorop said: I disagree. That shit is ass lmao you're a webtoon reader,right? while i personnally think this adaptation isn't bad,i fully agree with the criticism that the directing is awful which is shame for me because i think the ost's are really good and the animation in some fights is nice. i really hope that in season 2 (if it happens) they give the show more episodes to have a better pacing with a better director so it can fully shine otherwise peoples will remember this show as beign overhyped. |
| As an anime only, it does a really bad job at anything it wants to do. Bad world building, 0 character interaction. 0 character development. Pill sized character backgrounds that takes 10 seconds. Everything just... happens? Honestly meh. I had better expectations. |
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Shadzzo said: As an anime only, it does a really bad job at anything it wants to do. Bad world building, 0 character interaction. 0 character development. Pill sized character backgrounds that takes 10 seconds. Everything just... happens? Honestly meh. I had better expectations. Its a has some low budget issues and feels very rushed at times. Overall I think the adaptation is OK. It does do that stuff better in the webtoon. Also Season 1 is the worst season, So I do hope for a second season where it allow itself to improve and shine. |
| Most people like it, ignore the haters |
| Those who've read the webtoon don't like(to much) the anime because it's not a good adaptation. The details are represented in the fact that the series CUTS WAY TO MUCH CONTENT AND THE PRODUCTION IS LACKING, ESPECIALLY FOR THE ANIMATION...and because of this, it doesn't elevate the story at it's full potential. Not once I was stopping the episode in order to check how much time passed because I was worried about some scenes not being animated or changed..and I was always dissapointed. This could have been a production in the same league with Hunter x Hunter and universally praised and loved like AOT, the next big thing that will explode in popularity...but it will not happen. Because of this, of course a lot of people will not like the anime since doesn't get the same treatment and respect as other adaptations in recent times.... LOOK NO FURTHER THAN DEMON SLAYER...because of the adaptation, it surpassed the source material in terms of quality, gained a lot of popularity and became generally liked by the viewers, like other very popular anime loved for good reason such as AOT and HxH that I mentioned...even though as it is right now, it's not at the same level as those two. There might be fans of the webtoon that will like the anime, but just because of the hype they are creating and because generally, people are happy and pleased when a story that they know and like is adapted, after reading the source material...and the -anime only- viewers will go down the path of liking it or not based on the personal preferences and tastes, without knowing how good the story can actually be. AT THIS MOMENT , I THINK ToG IS A 6+/10 AT BEST....and I don't think the adaptation will rise in quality...it's just functional, having a good art style and introducing the viewer to the story. |
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| It really isn't a bad show. It's just nowhere near as good as the webtoon. Decent show, poor adaptation in my opinion. |
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YoseiEgg said: I'm a webtoon reader (only started reading after episode 1/saw the hype around it, I am caught up with the series) and while I won't say it's ass, compared to the webtoon it's pretty ok, just average imo. TOG's biggest issue to me is the pacing. They are trying to fit about 80 or so chapters from season 1 of the comic(I don't remember how many chapters season 1 is on webtoon and tbh I'm lazy to go back and check), each chapter at least 80-100 pages, into 13 23 minute episodes. It wasn't going to work unless they cut out a crap load of stuff, and it's showing in the anime if you know what's supposed to happen. Episode 9 was really rushed (again, imo) and they forgot some info which would've helped anime onlys, such as why Quant couldn't save Rachel from Hoh, leading to him teaching Bam that skill. They're doing what they can, which I appreciate, but I also agree with others that the pacing/directing can be greatly approved. I think they shouldn't have animated ToG until they were able to secure 24 episodes for it (or however obtaining an episode count for a series works). While it would've been much slower and probably would've led to a different set of complaints, at least it wouldn't be so convoluted as it is now. I wonder if God of High School will follow the same path. yeah season 1 of the webtoon has so many dialogue and not many fights so i would preferred 24 episodes even if it was slow paced so the characters don't look underdeveloped and anime onlies would get all information from first season, also i can't lie i'm a bit jealous that goh got mappa and noblesse got ig production while tog got telecom,goh trailers look so good so i'll wait and see. |
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crossx1993 said: Yes, the webtoon is one of my favorites. Well that just contributes against my enjoyment really.Lelorop said: I disagree. That shit is ass lmao you're a webtoon reader,right? while i personnally think this adaptation isn't bad,i fully agree with the criticism that the directing is awful which is shame for me because i think the ost's are really good and the animation in some fights is nice. i really hope that in season 2 (if it happens) they give the show more episodes to have a better pacing with a better director so it can fully shine otherwise peoples will remember this show as beign overhyped. Hopefully they change the director for (hypothetical) s2. |
Aardwolf94 said: Most people like it, ignore the haters How adorable. If an anime were to deviate from the source material, lessening the quality of its writing, would source-readers like myself be complacent? So we complain, but we DO address problems and contradictions created by said deviations. For example, Endorsi’s broken heel was disregarded in the anime. Remember the pillar battle between Endorsi and Anak which ended in free fall? The webtoon justified what would generally be considered lazy writing and made it plausible; More so, fettered action to *strategy.* Anak originally aimed to break Endorsi’s foothold and pin her down. None of which was explained/explicit in the adaptation. The problem most source-readers share (myself included) is the intellectually-demanding quality of writing had been reduced to generic shonen trope. Yes Khun is gay, yes Rak likes chocolate, yes Bam pines Rachel, yes Rachel is depressed. We don’t need recurrent scenes reinforcing elementary traits. The studio treats target-audiences like 12-year olds, that we have to constantly be reminded of character traits and motivations, repeatedly; This leads to character work feeling one-dimensional, and this goes for the entire cast, not just Bam. Khun in particular has been butchered beyond repair, as with Endori w/ Bam’s individual relationship (evident of the latest episode) I’m sure many ‘dedicated’ viewers would share this perspective. Ofc we’re the minority but that doesn’t make the argument any less valid. Fuck yeah we’re complaining, but don’t reduce arguments, efforts, to “just hating.” From my perspective you’re “just fanboying.” |
| I don't get why a lot of people don't understand that people can hate ToG anime and the webtoon. |
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ayaan692 said: Aardwolf94 said: Most people like it, ignore the haters so when people dont enjoy soemthing you like and voice their opinions then they are just haters? great mindset and i hope you dont mean by "most people" those reaction channels who hype everything up they see its basically their job to praise it Mainstream anitubers in a nutshell. Reaction channels are insincere. There’s no substance to their comments except exaggerated hype and worship. |
| People who've read the source material are always going to have different expectations to those that haven't, they're always going to compare them and notice missing dialogues, changes, rushed parts etc. Anime only's wont notice any of that because this is their first time experiencing this story. Have you never read a manga first and been disappointed by the anime? I dont get why anime only's make threads like this. (I am also a ToG anime only and I enjoy the show too) |
XquisiteWigMay 27, 2020 5:06 PM
| Honestly, I'm not sure why you're bothered that other people don't enjoy it? Who cares what they think? If you like it then that's awesome for you. Don't pay attention to the negativity. I like it so far, as an Anime only, I've only read like 10 chapters in the webtoon and don't really want to read through it so I've read some spoilers online to quench my curiosity. I might read it someday but definitely not now since I have a lot of manga series I'm following. Anyway, everyone is entitled to their own opinion whether they like it or not. I appreciate that a Korean webtoon got a Japanese adaptation. However, to be honest, with the episodes they've shown so far, it's a pretty generic shounen and some people are just tired of seeing the same thing over and over again. |
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Lelorop said: Aardwolf94 said: Most people like it, ignore the haters How adorable. If an anime were to deviate from the source material, lessening the quality of its writing, would source-readers like myself be complacent? So we complain, but we DO address problems and contradictions created by said deviations. For example, Endorsi’s broken heel was disregarded in the anime. Remember the pillar battle between Endorsi and Anak which ended in free fall? The webtoon justified what would generally be considered lazy writing and made it plausible; More so, fettered action to *strategy.* Anak originally aimed to break Endorsi’s foothold and pin her down. None of which was explained/explicit in the adaptation. The problem most source-readers share (myself included) is the intellectually-demanding quality of writing had been reduced to generic shonen trope. Yes Khun is gay, yes Rak likes chocolate, yes Bam pines Rachel, yes Rachel is depressed. We don’t need recurrent scenes reinforcing elementary traits. The studio treats target-audiences like 12-year olds, that we have to constantly be reminded of character traits and motivations, repeatedly; This leads to character work feeling one-dimensional, and this goes for the entire cast, not just Bam. Khun in particular has been butchered beyond repair, as with Endori w/ Bam’s individual relationship (evident of the latest episode) I’m sure many ‘dedicated’ viewers would share this perspective. Ofc we’re the minority but that doesn’t make the argument any less valid. Fuck yeah we’re complaining, but don’t reduce arguments, efforts, to “just hating.” From my perspective you’re “just fanboying.” I have read the source material too and honestly ToG is just a generic Shounen (but executed well), only really unique part is the worldbuilding. But the characters and overall story are as tropey as it gets. So I don't think S1 is somehow not representing it right (its been a while since I read the first part of the webtoon but I don't remember it being intellectually demanding tbh), even if some things are dumbed down even further. Also I'm saying that most fans of the source material seem to like it too, at least that's what I have noticed on r/TowerofGod |
Aardwolf94May 27, 2020 5:36 PM
Aardwolf94 said: Lelorop said: How adorable. If an anime were to deviate from the source material, lessening the quality of its writing, would source-readers like myself be complacent? So we complain, but we DO address problems and contradictions created by said deviations. For example, Endorsi’s broken heel was disregarded in the anime. Remember the pillar battle between Endorsi and Anak which ended in free fall? The webtoon justified what would generally be considered lazy writing and made it plausible; More so, fettered action to *strategy.* Anak originally aimed to break Endorsi’s foothold and pin her down. None of which was explained/explicit in the adaptation. The problem most source-readers share (myself included) is the intellectually-demanding quality of writing had been reduced to generic shonen trope. Yes Khun is gay, yes Rak likes chocolate, yes Bam pines Rachel, yes Rachel is depressed. We don’t need recurrent scenes reinforcing elementary traits. The studio treats target-audiences like 12-year olds, that we have to constantly be reminded of character traits and motivations, repeatedly; This leads to character work feeling one-dimensional, and this goes for the entire cast, not just Bam. Khun in particular has been butchered beyond repair, as with Endori w/ Bam’s individual relationship (evident of the latest episode) I’m sure many ‘dedicated’ viewers would share this perspective. Ofc we’re the minority but that doesn’t make the argument any less valid. Fuck yeah we’re complaining, but don’t reduce arguments, efforts, to “just hating.” From my perspective you’re “just fanboying.” I have read the source material too and honestly ToG is just a generic Shounen (but executed well), only really unique part is the worldbuilding. But the characters and overall story are as tropey as it gets. So I don't think S1 is somehow not representing it right (its been a while since I read the first part of the webtoon but I don't remember it being intellectually demanding tbh), even if some things are dumbed down even further. Also I'm saying that most fans of the source material seem to like it too, at least that's what I have noticed on r/TowerofGod Read the latest “webtoon-reader episode discussion” thread from that subreddit then. Mostly complaints and disappointment. I can understand if you don’t think too highly of the source-material. It can be very subtle at times. |
Lelorop said: Aardwolf94 said: I have read the source material too and honestly ToG is just a generic Shounen (but executed well), only really unique part is the worldbuilding. But the characters and overall story are as tropey as it gets. So I don't think S1 is somehow not representing it right (its been a while since I read the first part of the webtoon but I don't remember it being intellectually demanding tbh), even if some things are dumbed down even further. Also I'm saying that most fans of the source material seem to like it too, at least that's what I have noticed on r/TowerofGod Read the latest “webtoon-reader episode discussion” thread from that subreddit then. Mostly complaints and disappointment. I can understand if you don’t think too highly of the source-material. It can be very subtle at times. I'll do that but from what I saw two weeks ago or so the reception was mostly positive. I do like the source material, just saying its pretty generic Shounen. The first Part (so what this anime is adapting) was still rather unique in comparison with the content later on |
Aardwolf94 said: Lelorop said: Read the latest “webtoon-reader episode discussion” thread from that subreddit then. Mostly complaints and disappointment. I can understand if you don’t think too highly of the source-material. It can be very subtle at times. I'll do that but from what I saw two weeks ago or so the reception was mostly positive. I do like the source material, just saying its pretty generic Shounen. The first Part (so what this anime is adapting) was still rather unique in comparison with the content later on Fair enough. Although I would say most of the complaints are from source-readers, not anime-onlies. Episode 7 was pretty controversial as well, might wanna check that out. |
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VivavideoUserJP said: It's nothing special, if this anime was not based on a webtoon, nobody would be talking about it. I think I agree with you. I would most likely have dropped this anime if I haven't read the source material. I find the execution and directing feels very clunky, and the characters are really hard to relate to due to character inconsistency. The way it presented the world is really uninteresting and dumb if I have to be honest. Also, most people are only commenting that they are disappointed, or not liking how differently it's being directed. They are just stating their opinion and I don't think they are actively hating on the anime itself. I find it quite ironic when some anime-only people keeps calling them out and hating on them. And of course, if you enjoy the anime, then just enjoy it. I, myself, have enjoyed those rather less popular ones, and I do like to read about others opinions on why they didn't enjoy it as much (and not just merely saying the anime is shit). It gives me some insights on things that I may have missed. |
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| Let me address the elephant in the room. Not many people mention this but another reason is also because it's Korean and not Japanese.For Weeb elitist, anime = Japanese only So when a Korean manhwa got adapted into anime and receive hype,it trigger them. Weeb are not open minded. Yes,racism is also part of the reason for the hate. Even before Tower of God anime got announced, there are many people here who dislike the fact Korean and Chinese anime and comic being added in Myanimelist database.Before the first episode even air,there are already hatred towards Tower of God. Another reason is because it's overhype. |
Papa_ScorchMay 27, 2020 7:20 PM
| Pretty much Darling In the Franxx and MHA fanboys all over when no one likes the shows. I don't plan to watch it at all. |
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| I haven't read the webtoon and my main reason for disliking this is that it's confusing and messy. They barely explain anything, at this point I don't know what the characters are doing anymore and what's the reason behind it. It feels like watching random characters doing random things in a random setting. |
fuyukiMay 28, 2020 1:44 AM
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| I'm an anime-only and it's trash. Webtoon readers are the main defenders of ToG but even they are becoming more and more let down by the adaptation. |
fuyuki said: I haven't read the webtoon and my main reason for disliking this is that it's confusing and messy. They barely explain anything, at this point I don't know what the characters are doing anymore and what's the reason behind it. It feels like watching random characters doing random things in a random setting. Ya the Adaptation has been very So-So in how it was handled. They keep jumping scene to scene without letting things slow down to process what going on. The info or most of it is there in the anime, But it difficult to process Especially in a single viewing. |
| It's just another seasonal trash overhyped show like Ishozoku Reviewers. I made a review on ToG, feel free to read it to get an idea. |
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Lelorop said: kater_tot said: You probably just have low standards. Don’t let third parties dampen your enjoyment. Ignore the hate threads I guess?I've seen A LOT of people saying they don't like the anime and I'm sure a lot of those people are those who've read the webtoon... maybe it's because I'm an anime-only, but I don't get why people don't like it? I'm really enjoying it so far. As long as I have fun watching an anime, it's good in my opinion... does what it's meant to haha Yeah, I'm already prepared for people to heap a pile of shit on me for my opinion PoisonedTea said: Shadzzo said: As an anime only, it does a really bad job at anything it wants to do. Bad world building, 0 character interaction. 0 character development. Pill sized character backgrounds that takes 10 seconds. Everything just... happens? Honestly meh. I had better expectations. Its a has some low budget issues and feels very rushed at times. Overall I think the adaptation is OK. It does do that stuff better in the webtoon. Also Season 1 is the worst season, So I do hope for a second season where it allow itself to improve and shine. You guys have to remember though that this is Crunchyroll's first time producing an anime so I guess they'd have pretty s meh budget Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
anime-primeJun 11, 2020 1:16 PM
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| Obviously people have different views and I wouldn't recommend worrying about other people's thoughts on any given piece of media. Just enjoy what you like watching :) In response to your question, I too am an anime only watcher, though I feel like the show has been terribly inconsistent and confusing with poor development/world building. An anime adaptation in my mind needs to be able to stand on its own, and ToG has failed to do that from my perspective. But hey, it does make me want to check out the source material to see if that's any better, so at least it got me interested. |
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| It's not good that's why people don't like it. Why was there a need to create a thread? Tog has 8+ score already so I don't get why people think tog gets a lot of hate |
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Full_anime_Fan said: It's not good that's why people don't like it. Why was there a need to create a thread? Tog has 8+ score already so I don't get why people think tog gets a lot of hate Because I was just curious about what in particular people disliked about the anime. Also, the score is high but there is a lot of negative comments about it. Plus, from my experience, the rating of an anime doesn't necessarily reflect how well received an anime |
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katie_potaty said: Full_anime_Fan said: It's not good that's why people don't like it. Why was there a need to create a thread? Tog has 8+ score already so I don't get why people think tog gets a lot of hate Because I was just curious about what in particular people disliked about the anime. Also, the score is high but there is a lot of negative comments about it. Plus, from my experience, the rating of an anime doesn't necessarily reflect how well received an anime You asked for this. I already have a strong salt-boner. Ok, webtoon-reader negativity is pretty self-explanatory. Let’s consider an *anime-only* perspective. If I had to guess... -Bland protagonist -shonen-trope overabundance -HxH wannabe -mildly predictable -power creep -choppy/stiff animation -overhype causing unrealistic expectation -constant exposure from the community, literally every anituber out there is sucking ToG dry -lack of any standout features -one dimensional characters -k-pop -uninspired visuals (ED/OP) -complete miss of comedy; Rak eating chocolate and chibi-cuts are supposedly funny to some people, but not me. It breaks any tension or potential investment in this world. There are no stakes because the protagonist is super saiyan, and everything seemingly resolved through “luck.” Poor justification ruins my enjoyment. *Maybe it’s just my opinion but the ost is very lacking, not a fan of forced dubstep. Poorly timed and failed attempt to build ‘hype.’ Note that I haven’t taken effort to list the ‘positive’ features. I genuinely think there aren’t any, save for the artstyle and initial premise. AO might find world-building to be proficient, but source-material proves that in itself, is nothing more than wasted potential. |
LeloropMay 28, 2020 3:03 PM
You sound ridiculous. It's not because it's from korea. Anime are stand alone products, and mostly watched from an anime only perspective. Whether it's good or not, it's depended on how well it presented not what the fanbase say based on the original source in such that it will get better, then compare this 13 eps to something else 100+ eps. This set the standard level pretty high for a short anime. There are already plenty of anime from korea origin. Yet people acting like there's hate toward korea stuffs as if this is the first Korea origin anime Ragnarök The Animation (2004) - Korean manhwa -> MMORPG -> anime (no one talk about it) Blade of the Phantom Master (2004) - korean manhwa -> anime (no one talk about it) Fuyu no Sonata (2010) - Korean tv drama -> anime (no one talk about it) Blade and Soul (2014) - Korean game -> anime (btw good game/anime, but people barely talk about it.) Kurokami the Animation (2009) & Freezing (2011) / Freezing Vibration (2013) - korean creators specialized in manhwa, shifted to manga style black and white format. Thus, got their 2 series into anime adaptation. Again, no one talk about them. Same goes to other series made by foreign country like Chinese manhua/webtoon with anime adaption, or western series that are Supernatural/Iron Man/Batman/X-Men/etcs with anime adaptation, there's barely a community that talks about it. No one care before and now. Japan also have their own webtoon such as Relife and Nanbaka. They weren't hype. Once the season ended, they were forgotten and people stop talking about it. ToG release with crunchyroll massive advertising their so called originals - people acting like "wow this never happened before". Yes, you might not think this way. However, there are people who think like this. Hence, now there is a ton of arguments between people. Hate and dislike aren't the same. Stop stereotyping everyone to one group. That's literally say that people who think it is average or normal series are haters. If this webtoon anime isn't good after it ended, there will always be other webtoon anime such as GoH and Noblesse. Maybe these or future webtoon anime like solo leveling, the breakers, etcs will help webtoon gain its popularity. It's not the end of the world. |
Fuwa_sanMay 30, 2020 12:17 AM
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| People just hate anything hyped Lelorop said: katie_potaty said: Because I was just curious about what in particular people disliked about the anime. Also, the score is high but there is a lot of negative comments about it. Plus, from my experience, the rating of an anime doesn't necessarily reflect how well received an anime You asked for this. I already have a strong salt-boner. Ok, webtoon-reader negativity is pretty self-explanatory. Let’s consider an *anime-only* perspective. If I had to guess... -Bland protagonist -shonen-trope overabundance -HxH wannabe -mildly predictable -power creep -choppy/stiff animation -overhype causing unrealistic expectation -constant exposure from the community, literally every anituber out there is sucking ToG dry -lack of any standout features -one dimensional characters -k-pop -uninspired visuals (ED/OP) -complete miss of comedy; Rak eating chocolate and chibi-cuts are supposedly funny to some people, but not me. It breaks any tension or potential investment in this world. There are no stakes because the protagonist is super saiyan, and everything seemingly resolved through “luck.” Poor justification ruins my enjoyment. *Maybe it’s just my opinion but the ost is very lacking, not a fan of forced dubstep. Poorly timed and failed attempt to build ‘hype.’ Note that I haven’t taken effort to list the ‘positive’ features. I genuinely think there aren’t any, save for the artstyle and initial premise. AO might find world-building to be proficient, but source-material proves that in itself, is nothing more than wasted potential. I really cant help but laugh at these. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
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