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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Welp, we got more glimpse Karin Nanase's life and it's not looking like the Average Joe. Kotoko continues to decipher the mystery of Nanase' motives. Kurou's fight against Steel Nanase was strange imo. Can't believe he just smacks her face onto the wall lol. From these episodes and the this one, Kotoko has become quite a supernatural detective girl. |
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| Good episode, wonder if they can stick the landing. |
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| I fall in love with Saki san more and more every ep, she’s so hot. Great ep, love how the show’s gone from action to a literal big brain battle to convince people what’s real and what’s not. Very interesting and fresh take on anime/manga. Speaking of which, picked up the manga and been loving it so far Probably my fave show of the year so far, really just fun to watch the character interactions, banter, thought processes of the investigations, etc. I also think they’ve done a great job of visualising those thought processes. The last two eps haven’t had much action, but there’s never been a dull moment because of how the mental gymnastics of debating with the forum users is presented |
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| Gotta be quick, smart, and know what to say when it comes to this really. One wrong move, and it'll all fall apart. Curious on how it'll end. |
| Allowing for this discussion to go on for more than one episode was a horrible idea. I'm so bored I don't care about the story any more. At this point I root for the specter since it has a nice body. And doesn't talk... |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
| Damn, Kurou was just cut in half. :o I wonder how they will end this show. |
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| Another solid episode,the adaption so far has been absolutely amazing,even though tiny little bits have been left out,the majority has been carried across with excellence. I can't believe how spot on they have got the characters,esp Kuro and Kotoko,and even the "side" characters like Saki.Not many anime have managed that. I'm considering re-doing my rating of this. A quick question though,does anyone else get the same "vibe" from this as Sakurako-san no Ashimoto ni wa Shitai ga Umatteiru? |
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Starhammer said: A quick question though,does anyone else get the same "vibe" from this as Sakurako-san no Ashimoto ni wa Shitai ga Umatteiru? I can see a few similarities, such as the genre (obvious) and the hidden bad guy (perhaps more crucial to the "vibe,") though Sakurako-san had more of the traditional Sherlock Holmes pacing. I'm still enjoying the dialogue heavy, battle of words style of this anime. This anime style ends up feeling like an audio-book with visuals, which is kind of fun. To continue the chain of "what does this anime remind you of," I personally think this anime is very similar to Boogiepop wa Warawanai. |
| Every day you can read a book or watch some anime is a good day! |
| Boy this show confuses me more and more each episode, but it's what keeps me entertained and coming back. So many different theories to choose from. More questions than answers. |
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| Great episode as always. It seems like next week Kotoko will give her last solution. Remember guys, the solution doesn't have to be 100% logical. You can poke holes into them and it'll still be fine. The goal isn't to make everyone believe that she isn't real instantly with just one solution, it's to bring doubt into the community and divide it. Remember that the only reason Steel Beam Nanase exists is because groups of people unified a single idea that she's real. So as long as the majority of people end up not believing in her, then that's good. In addition, all the solutions not only need to be persuasive, they need to be entertaining. Fake news these days are considered the "better news" just because it's more entertaining than the truth. And that's what she's trying to do here, create a fictional entertaining truth, and that's a feat in itself. The next solution though needs to be able to persuade the majority of the people to believe that the ghost isn't real so that Nanase will be removed from existence. What do you guys think will be her solution? (I already read the manga so it'll be cool to see how the people here think) |
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gaussian_ said: Starhammer said: To continue the chain of "what does this anime remind you of," I personally think this anime is very similar to Boogiepop wa Warawanai.A quick question though,does anyone else get the same "vibe" from this as Sakurako-san no Ashimoto ni wa Shitai ga Umatteiru? Sorry to say I haven't watched Boogiepop,might get around to it,but got loads to watch :) |
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| Those anons are a bunch of SIMPs lol Kotoko's anecdotes definitely better than last week and I understand Rikka had an overwhelming lead from the start but it's hurting the show, this should not have taken this many episodes for a weak arc, focusing on the narrative perspective is not an excuse, take it from Death Note that's how u do it, this show is how not to do it |
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| Wow Kurou's just dying so brutally, I feel bad for him tbh. Kotoko and Rikka san's lying battle is still going lol. Kotoko's third solution was kinda week imo. If she said that someone had a grudge against Nanase's older sister and he tried to use this incident as a way of psychologically attacking her like Rikka san mentioned, that would have been a much better solution. |
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| I think the only real issue with this anime is the pace. So few episodes yet a multi episode fight. This isn't a long running shounen battle series. |
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| damn these theories are frustrating.... can't they like make more and more theories to make the fan base divided... thus shifted the gears and what not |
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| I'm starting to get fatigue with this arc, I like the show but its very talky and not nearly as clever as monogatari in the way it keeps the viewer interested. Shaft did that with vistual flair but this show doesn't have that. I'm hoping we tie this arc up next week as it already feels too long. |
| Huh what the fuck am I watching. |
| Wow Kuro is just suffering all kinds of deaths! Impaled by a tree, severed in half! The solutions are all really interesting, but I had to agree that the 3rd solution was definitely a bust! |
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| OK, I get the rationale for switching from a rational theory to one that's entirely irrational and appeals more to the forum, but why then jump straight back to the rational again when the irrational was actually working? Kotoko's just taken one step forwards and two backwards here, or maybe more given how pathetically weak the third theory was. It's interesting to get Rikka actively involved now, but less so when the theory that forced her hand was so full of holes. Also, is Kotoko posting all these theories on the same forum account, or is she using different ones and mixing up her presentation of the theories? That may not seem hugely important, but doesn't this whole thing fall apart if the forum figures out that one person is throwing around all these random theories in the hope that something sticks? In fact, given that Rikka actively knows this is the case, could she not use that to present all of Kotoko's theories as utterly invalid? This arc did not need to be this long, as it is really getting tedious now. |
| Iwanaga's ability to come up with these things on the spot is pretty impressive. I wonder what she has in mind for the 4th solution that should get rid of SLN. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| I rly like that Kuro have no regrets, he just trying to kill her again and again |
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| Really like the different theories just to get some followers with each, the first one is for those who like conspiracies, the second one for supernatural believers that have some kind of empathy and the 3rd for basic human disgust with each other blaming a stalker lol. |
| Damn this is really dragging out now isn't it ? |
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| Her explanations are more absurd than the the reality of a woman who constantly kills herself just to get an edge in shitposting online. I mean, do you really need to stab yourself in the neck when your opponent is talking about body doubles? lol. I hope all of the inconsistencies are purposeful on her part, otherwise all she's really doing is making Nanase's family look like a bunch of psychos. |
syncrogazerMar 15, 2020 9:53 AM
Capxaba said: This story of the Woman of Steel is very long, 8 episodes already brother and there will be more. Very tiring. They really are stretching this "arc" beyond what's needed. The last 3 episodes could've been condensed into a single one. I had high hopes for this series and I still like the characters, but right now I'm only wishing for it to end. |
| Another episode excellent for curing insomnia. Peace out. |
| You can't help but feel some sympathy for Kuro. While Kotoko is having her own tough battle to outwit Rikka, Kuro is still going through the painful cycle of beating the crap out of Steel Lady Nanase, then gets himself killed her, then comes back to life, and finally repeat that process again. His attacks on her are more brutal, but so are his "deaths", too. Getting impaled by a tree branch was gruesome, but that was easily beaten by Kuro getting sliced in half. You have to admire his determination in this exhausting fight. As for Kotoko, her second and third solution have had some good degrees of success that it was able to finally make Rikka go on the offensive. Kotoko's fourth and final solution will be the final showdown between her and Rikka, so that's something to look forward to next time. =) |
| This is getting beyond frustrating this "case" is being drawn out as long a danganronpa's 3 final trial ,if Kotoko's plan was to feed all these solutions so that people would just stop caring because any of it sounds possible it's working on me this was a close 8 before this arc taking up 90% of the show how much more do i need to suffer seeing her and Kuro die |
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| Kotoko sure likes to include cross-dressed men in her hypothesis... Anyways, another solid episode. Not as immersive as the previous one but still highly intriguing. For the relief of some people here, we got two solutions this time: one for paranormal lovers with an interesting approach made by Kotoko and another one being a bit more realistic but also kinda uninspiring if you ask me. Personally, this third solution may be the weakest one out of these three so far. Regarding dialogues, they are still quite clear and it might just be me but I don't find them boring in the slightest. Not to mention that the use of visual elements to give more emphasis to each hypothesis has been a really nice detail as well. |
| Came back to see what other people think, and wow. darkling692 said: Capxaba said: This story of the Woman of Steel is very long, 8 episodes already brother and there will be more. Very tiring. They really are stretching this "arc" beyond what's needed. The last 3 episodes could've been condensed into a single one. I had high hopes for this series and I still like the characters, but right now I'm only wishing for it to end. Definitely not. They'll have to cut so much content at that point, important details would be removed, and the solutions wouldn't even make sense anymore. Either that, or they'll have to talk extremely fast. ZKisara said: Oh trust me, one episode cannot hold all of those three. Those chapter itself is long enough to have a separate episode each. I feel like they rushed this one a bit and the second half went by a bit too fast. Well you’ll see what I mean if you read the manga because oh boy Every chapter is long as heck. You can basically compare it to having 3 essays in one chapter Exactly. In this episode, they actually combined Chapters 10 and 11, and they have a total of 150 pages. They both had enough content to become their own episode, but they removed a lot of dialogue from the audience so that they would be able to give Kotoko more time to present her solutions. So to put all the solutions in one whole episode, they'd need to remove audience interaction completely, and she'd need to present her solution in one go, without giving the audience time to think. That's a huge no-no, there's no point in stopping Steel Beam Nanase if she doesn't give the people time to think about her solutions. Having reading the manga, I think they'll mostly likely end the series at Chapter 13, and in addition with Chapter 15 for the snake arc, they'll only have used 14 chapters just for this series. That's how long each chapter is, and even then, they still had to remove content, though not as important, but still probably wouldn't have hurt to be in the anime. |
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| Is it me or it's getting really boring since a few episodes ? |
| Wow, this anime is a perfect medicine for those who have a sleep disorder. I really liked how the show started, it had a good premise, a good main character (Kotoko), and a good setting. BUT, it's been 3 episodes that Kotoko is sitting on a cab fighting against weirdos on 4chan, twitter, or whatever social media that seems to have a strong power in the rumor. The way Kotoko is fighting against the boobs monster makes sense but for me is an incomplete way to do it. I mean, internet is a great place to spread rumors and gossip... but I don't know if Kotoko is aware of this: gossips ocour outside the web too, ok? Fighting against this rumor wouldn't take only 3 hours in a cab tweeting... it would take DAYS, WEEKS, for the rumor to get weaker, or to people lost interest/forget about it. |
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| As soon as Kotoko said about someone taking on the persona of Steel Lady Nanase to ease Hatsumi's heart I was like "Kotoko-chan, that is a major flaw in your solution!" If she had said that someone close to Nanase or an extreme fan had taken on the persona to make Hatsumi feel guilty then that would've made more sense. I definitely think using the big sister in the solution is the way to go though; that family drama is the real shit haha |
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| Not only is solution 3 flawed because of the nonsensical motive of the supposed culprit, but also a simple DNA test would have shown whether the body was that of Nanase or not. Her sister could provide a sample and if they both had the same markers showing their from the same parents mystery solved. |
| To side with the people who feel like this narrative is getting too long, I hear you well and clear. However, to rebut this issue, we're still getting into the Steel Lady Nanase arc, and the same-old cliche and stretched out narrative is getting better. To be frank, Solution 2 is more of pushing the buck towards the online audience that's still full of doubt while Kotoko's hammering fake fiction to try her luck for them to buy the idea as Kuro continues his aimless fight while waiting for the probable path of solution. The audience is one, but combatting Rikka-san still is a hurdle. With Solution 3, trying to get on the empathy of the deceased and giving the audience the chance to deduce the line of tragedy of real-life family issues is kinda the worst option so far. To add insult to injury, by adding a double the chances of the crime could vary, the same as creating Steel Lady Nanase out of mere fiction (and that's what Rikka-san is here for), A TOTAL BACKFIRE of flaws. The last and probable solution, hope that will be the end to finish this long ordeal. |
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