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May 5, 12:19 PM

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Metallica_Nero said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Good episode, but the real battle is yet to be started
Poor Reiner


That ending tho, not sure if Reiner will go down that easily.

Can't wait for Levi versus the beast Titan!


Poor reiner? really? the bastard should die asap
 
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oh man what a great episode. i'm so glad they included the panel of erwin standing on the corpses - was kinda worried they'd skip over it!

really enjoyed the animation with the thunder spears and 3DMG. levi vs beast titan is gonna be INSANE.
 
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Listen, a good chunk of people in the aot fanbase (which is the majority, rather than the minority), dont really care about disclosures and either look at their phone while the episode is on them or ignore em completely, so the flashback shouldn't be skipped.


I respect your opinion, but don't you agree it would be more surprising if there wasn't a flashback? Because in this case you would be apprehensive not knowing whether or not the spears would work on Reiner. The real explanation and how to use them is actually
after they used it on Reiner, which makes the flashback all the more dispensable to me.


Eh, its an anime cliche im used to at this point with all my years of anime watching, ive come to expect it to be done. I still think there were more positives than negatives in this episode though. For ex: the first person view while flying on the odm gear was a nice touch and really unique use of animation for the show.
 
May 5, 12:21 PM

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i hope they dont censor the juicy part in the next episode..
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May 5, 12:22 PM
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lol you got to be joking

just look at the previous fight and how much sakuga it has




I amnot joking
Lol fight in season 2 was short as hell in terms of using sakuga because most of it was talking about strategies, while this fight isnot the main focus of the episode and it was animated well with level up quality of animation which gets close to real sakuga as wit studio isnot an expert in sakuga unlike pierrot or bones , but the quality of art got a little bit level down because of the time and budget but still an acceptable quality except reiner's face but I think it was a fault like when toei animation drew shanks with both hands in ace flashback , just dude rewatch the epsiode and you will enjoy it and stop catching faults for a great show like this


ok you do not know anything about sakuga and the anime industry then

sakuga is awesome animation and this fight between Eren and Reiner has none of it

they delayed this part of season 3 to get enough production time, which sadly the first 2 episodes show they still do not have enough, animation quality is usually high on the first few episodes of an anime especially for short shows like this 10 episodes part

most animators are freelancers especially the talented animators, and im not gonna be surprise if this episode only has 1 talented animator that did all the sakuga on thunder spear parts

and also Wit Studio is much smaller studio than Pierrot and BONES and animation quality is mainly determined by the contracted staff like available talented animators on the market and enough production time for those animators to draw/animate things good
 
May 5, 12:23 PM

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Omg that cliffhanger! I literally shouted no at my screen. That was so great. I think there's a good chance Reiner or Bertolt will die this arc, but I wouldn't expect it to happen so soon. You can't even say he feel for their trap really. He just reasoned it would be worse for them if Eren was to hop and wall and run around to the front. But man he didn't expect those crazy rocket things. I love that it was Jean who said nah we have to do this when he was one who had a lot of trouble killing another human. Oh man I can't wait.
 
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Uchihakira said:
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Don't hang yourself up with it man.

Certain individuals have their rose-tinted goggles on and will resort to defend their show with whatever means necessary. A healthy balance of standing one's ground but also allowing criticism is necessary but not everyone can pull that one off.


I amnot a fan of AOT but people always mismatch animation with art , Art dropped a little bit while animation is still good , they are using sakuga in a long fight so there must be some frames which look creepy but it's sakuga , so just don't pause the fight and enjoy

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Fappa said:


Don't hang yourself up with it man.

Certain individuals have their rose-tinted goggles on and will resort to defend their show with whatever means necessary. A healthy balance of standing one's ground but also allowing criticism is necessary but not everyone can pull that one off.


I amnot a fan of AOT but people always mismatch animation with art , Art dropped a little bit while animation is still good , they are using sakuga in a long fight so there must be some frames which look creepy but it's sakuga , so just don't pause the fight and enjoy

I might've been a little too harsh. There was plenty of sakuga, but I expected more. The first episode was so consistent and well produced that I was expecting they would extend Eren vs Reiner fight with a bunch of sakuga like Pierrot did with Naruto fights.
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deg said:
Uchihakira said:

I amnot joking
Lol fight in season 2 was short as hell in terms of using sakuga because most of it was talking about strategies, while this fight isnot the main focus of the episode and it was animated well with level up quality of animation which gets close to real sakuga as wit studio isnot an expert in sakuga unlike pierrot or bones , but the quality of art got a little bit level down because of the time and budget but still an acceptable quality except reiner's face but I think it was a fault like when toei animation drew shanks with both hands in ace flashback , just dude rewatch the epsiode and you will enjoy it and stop catching faults for a great show like this


ok you do not know anything about sakuga and the anime industry then

sakuga is awesome animation and this fight between Eren and Reiner has none of it

they delayed this part of season 3 to get enough production time, which sadly the first 2 episodes show they still do not have enough, animation quality is usually high on the first few episodes of an anime especially for short shows like this 10 episodes part

most animators are freelancers especially the talented animators, and im not gonna be surprise if this episode only has 1 talented animator that did all the sakuga on thunder spear parts

and also Wit Studio is much smaller studio than Pierrot and BONES and animation quality is mainly determined by the contracted staff like available talented animators on the market and enough production time for those animators to draw/animate things good


I won't argue with you
You watched the epsiode while closing your eyes didn't you ??
Hands down you don't know the difference between sakuga and art , when animators use sakuga the quality of art won't be stable just some frames and in pain vs naruto fight one talented animator made it , he was interviewed on crunchyroll , I amnot saying that they didn't use sakuga in season 2 but the fight was short not like long sakuga fights and today's fight was a long one and they used sakuga in it , I am sure you noticed bad frames but it's sakuga , so it's natural , just enjoy the show dude and stop catching faults in every epsiode
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Uchihakira said:
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ok you do not know anything about sakuga and the anime industry then

sakuga is awesome animation and this fight between Eren and Reiner has none of it

they delayed this part of season 3 to get enough production time, which sadly the first 2 episodes show they still do not have enough, animation quality is usually high on the first few episodes of an anime especially for short shows like this 10 episodes part

most animators are freelancers especially the talented animators, and im not gonna be surprise if this episode only has 1 talented animator that did all the sakuga on thunder spear parts

and also Wit Studio is much smaller studio than Pierrot and BONES and animation quality is mainly determined by the contracted staff like available talented animators on the market and enough production time for those animators to draw/animate things good


I won't argue with you
You watched the epsiode while closing your eyes didn't you ??
Hands down you don't know the difference between sakuga and art , when animators use sakuga the quality of art won't be stable just some frames


you do not even know what sakuga means lol

and no i know that animation should be judge by the entire motion of the scene and not just from looking at still frames when you pause it
 
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Erwins characterization and the imagery were on spot and the rest of the episode was top too.
Kokoro did nothing wrong.

 
May 5, 12:32 PM

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Anywhere I can watch it? Cuz as far as I know Erai-raws hasn't translated it yet ;/


 
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Anywhere I can watch it? Cuz as far as I know Erai-raws hasn't translated it yet ;/


err HorribleSubs have it already
 
May 5, 12:35 PM
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Excellent episode. Every time this show comes back on air I'm more and more secure in thinking this series is going to shape up into a modern classic. The tone was brilliant all the way through, god I love how broody it all was. Erwin's significant moment of characterisation was done so damn well, so fucking powerful. But god there were so many moments similarly throughout the ep. I felt like rooting for both sides at several points but I love just how human all the characters genuinely are. Props as well for the really solid voice acting, I can't wait to see what's coming next.
 
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deg said:
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Anywhere I can watch it? Cuz as far as I know Erai-raws hasn't translated it yet ;/


err HorribleSubs have it already


Thank you dear sire!


 
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DupeusT31 said:
Uchihakira said:


I amnot a fan of AOT but people always mismatch animation with art , Art dropped a little bit while animation is still good , they are using sakuga in a long fight so there must be some frames which look creepy but it's sakuga , so just don't pause the fight and enjoy

Uchihakira said:


I amnot a fan of AOT but people always mismatch animation with art , Art dropped a little bit while animation is still good , they are using sakuga in a long fight so there must be some frames which look creepy but it's sakuga , so just don't pause the fight and enjoy

I might've been a little too harsh. There was plenty of sakuga, but I expected more. The first episode was so consistent and well produced that I was expecting they would extend Eren vs Reiner fight with a bunch of sakuga like Pierrot did with Naruto fights.


Lol extending fights is the most dangerous thing ever , it needs a great talented animator and naruto's animator is one of the best in the industry and this epsiode didn't focus on this fight mainly they focused on thunder spears
Wait for the episode which focus on fights and not introduce new items and with this sakuga level they will blow your mind
 
May 5, 12:37 PM

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Good episode, loved the mindgame of Erwin towards Reiner.

Seems next week we're getting the 'nuke'
 
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Dagvi said:
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err HorribleSubs have it already


Thank you dear sire!


no problem, and Erai-raws afaik are just web-rippers like HorribleSubs so they just copy all of the video including the subtitles from legal streaming sites like CrunchyRoll
 
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deg said:
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I won't argue with you
You watched the epsiode while closing your eyes didn't you ??
Hands down you don't know the difference between sakuga and art , when animators use sakuga the quality of art won't be stable just some frames


you do not even know what sakuga means lol

and no i know that animation should be judge by the entire motion of the scene and not just from looking at still frames when you pause it


Hmmmmmm
I know it better than you
So argument is over
So what's sakuga in your amateur's view ?? Little rookie
 
May 5, 12:41 PM

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Erwin's inner monolog is easily the best part of the episode.

Also, the music that was playing during Eren vs Reiner fight is a great choice.
 
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Uchihakira said:
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you do not even know what sakuga means lol

and no i know that animation should be judge by the entire motion of the scene and not just from looking at still frames when you pause it


Hmmmmmm
I know it better than you
So argument is over


err ye keep telling that to yourself

the only explanation i can think of here is that you are using the literal word translation of sakuga which is animation so all animation to you is sakuga anyway lol
 
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Erwin is the best character and this episode was good but I hope they don't censor next episode
 
May 5, 12:45 PM
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what was that ost they used in the last minutes????,it's like the director saying "hey this is a cool scene,let's ruin it by using an anticlimactic ost".


Maybe they wanted something more fitting to 'killing your friend' than 'hype and action'
 
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The animation was a lot better in the first episode, not sure why it dropped in this one.

The battle between the titans was cool, but all those info dumps made it seem like a slow episode.

Also why the fuck did I feel bad for Reiner at some point? Smh. Die bitch
 
May 5, 12:52 PM
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The CGI is distracting, they shouldn´t use it for the horses or for the fight between Eren and Reiner.
 
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The CGI is distracting, they shouldn´t use it for the horses or for the fight between Eren and Reiner.
 
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Yo the story is progressing well, got to see
another intelligent titan. Well it's just the start, epic battle yet to come. But felt good when Reiner got his face punched *u deserve it* xD


This is a spoiler. You should edit your conment.
There are a lot of people who only watch the anime here.
 
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deg said:
Uchihakira said:


Hmmmmmm
I know it better than you
So argument is over


err ye keep telling that to yourself

the only explanation i can think of here is that you are using the literal word translation of sakuga which is animation so all animation to you is sakuga anyway lol


Hmmmm
I have never metioned that before , many shows aren't actually using sakuga like one piece
But you are an expert in shit so you can know who knows sakuga and who don't without saying anything which makes you say so , just keep your judging mindlessly for yourself and Don't judge people's knowledge from nothing
It's like I am talking about apples and then you said OHHH that means you don't know what oranges mean while I didn't even tipped for that well arguement is over I won't reply again for such a conversation with mister nonsense judge
 
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Uchihakira said:
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err ye keep telling that to yourself

the only explanation i can think of here is that you are using the literal word translation of sakuga which is animation so all animation to you is sakuga anyway lol


Hmmmm
I have never metioned that before , many shows aren't actually using sakuga like one piece
But you are an expert in shit so you can know who knows sakuga and who don't without saying anything which makes you say so , just keep your judging mindlessly for yourself and Don't judge people's knowledge from nothing
It's like I am talking about apples and then you said OHHH that means you don't know what oranges mean while I didn't even tipped for that well arguement is over I won't reply again for such a conversation with mister nonsense judge


you are projecting there i given a lot of explanations and even define what sakuga is but you on the other hand provided no explanations

ye im done with you too lol
 
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I truly doubt Reiner is dead
Unless the author makes the death somewhat tragic, in a Shounen a character of such importance never dies
 
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The episode was kinda slow and a significant drop in quality from the first one.
Not satisfied.
 
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They made RPG's, that's dope, now they just need to master coffee making and mankind is set.

Another great episode, Erwin is such a badass
 
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can't wait for next episode mann!!!
 
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Hmmm it seems like a lot of manga readers didn't like the Reiner vs Eren fight, while many anime-onlies didn't see any issues with it. I'm not a manga reader, but personally I didn't have any problems with the fight. Yeah it wasn't as good as their fight in season 2, but I wasn't even expecting this fight to be on that level with all the crazy shit that is happening in this season. Back in season 2, that fight was the most important fight of the season. However, this season seems like there will be a lot more moments of higher importance.
 
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Erwin's inner monologue is my favourite part in this episode.
I'm glad they adapted it. Specially this part:

The OST track was a great touch for this scene.
Also, I find interesting that they decided to add that Levi scene from the OVA No Regrets.

I don't care so much about Eren vs Reiner fight.
For me, Erwin's monologue was the highlight in this episode.
 
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Erwin's inner monologue is my favourite part in this episode.
I'm glad they adapted it. Specially this part:

The OST track was a great touch for this scene.
Also, I find interesting that they decided to add that Levi scene from the OVA No Regrets.

I don't care so much about Eren vs Reiner fight.
For me, Erwin's monologue was the highlight in this episode.


Isayama himself added that in when he drew the manga version of the arc, so its basically canon.
 
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so far so good

can't wait
 
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The OP is already growing on me, even though I didn't think it was bad to begin with.
As for the Reiner vs Eren fight: obviously it wasn't going to be as good as the one in Season 2, since it's not the climax of the arc like it has been before, and the parts they've shows were still pretty good, so why complain?
Anyway, next episode it looks like it'll be focused on taking Bertolt down, can't wait to see him get what he deserves.
 
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Erwin is the GOAT, the animation was your average aot animation so it was fine, than again these days people think like average=bad so...

Now with that being said they already have 5 AD's here and i've got some info that next episode will be worse, i really wished that WIT would've worked on Vinland Saga later, mixed with the Kabaneri movie Aot's production will suffer.... Really bad
 
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Those spears are working!
 
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I'd seen those thunder spears on some manga covers, nice to see them in action. And some of those titans were hilarious.

The Erwin scene was okay, Griffith did the standing on dead bodies thing better.
 
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Great episode, we got some strategy talking and also some action. And a new weapon which is actually able to kill the armored titan. Though I'm sure this won't be the end for Reiner, Bertholt still has not appeared yet and he'll probably find a way to save Reiner in the last second. Can't wait to see Levi vs Beast Titan though, this will be awesome.
 
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Good adaptation, meh animation

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I'd seen those thunder spears on some manga covers, nice to see them in action. And some of those titans were hilarious.

The Erwin scene was okay, Griffith did the standing on dead bodies thing better.


Big difference. Unlike Erwin, Griffith did nothing wrong
 
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I'd seen those thunder spears on some manga covers, nice to see them in action. And some of those titans were hilarious.

The Erwin scene was okay, Griffith did the standing on dead bodies thing better.


Can I get a link to that page? I don't remember that Griffith did something similar.
 
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WIT should never have done a Kabaneri Movie, the whole thing is a waste of resources, should have put all of those resource into AOT and Vinland

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The animation was a lot better in the first episode, not sure why it dropped in this one.

The battle between the titans was cool, but all those info dumps made it seem like a slow episode.

Also why the fuck did I feel bad for Reiner at some point? Smh. Die bitch


damn no love for reiner? D: he has such a cool personality though

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The OP is already growing on me, even though I didn't think it was bad to begin with.
As for the Reiner vs Eren fight: obviously it wasn't going to be as good as the one in Season 2, since it's not the climax of the arc like it has been before, and the parts they've shows were still pretty good, so why complain?
Anyway, next episode it looks like it'll be focused on taking Bertolt down, can't wait to see him get what he deserves.


damn dude
all the hate on bertolt why does everyone hate him XD

i agree with the OP it really grows on you :D

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I'd seen those thunder spears on some manga covers, nice to see them in action. And some of those titans were hilarious.

The Erwin scene was okay, Griffith did the standing on dead bodies thing better.


Can I get a link to that page? I don't remember that Griffith did something similar.


It just reminded me of it.



I think there's a similar image of an older Griffith too, but i can't remember exactly where i saw it. Probably in the anime.
 
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First half of the episode was great, then it went down with that weak adaptation. Best part of the episode was Erwin standing above all those corpses. The OST during Eren Vs Reiner was not the best choice, also the thunder spears at the end. I hope rest of the seasons gets better, because what really worries me is that they make us wait for 7 months.
 
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@fancyjasper

erwin corpse mountain mangaversion



looks better in black and white, contrast i guess
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erwin corpse mountain mangaversion



looks better in black and white, contrast i guess


Attack on titan anime sill can't top manga in my opinion, I really love the way isayama draws
 
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ERWIN IS A GENIUS! I keep liking him more and more
 
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I was really impressed with Erwin's monologue scene. It certainly conveyed the feelings Erwin had within him as he climbed the ranks to where he is now, but the way he was looking down on the bodies, who were looking directly up AT him, felt powerful.

Not surprisingly, the wacko running of the smaller titans returns and it made me laugh with ease, especially the one that kept pointing his fingers in the air while looking up into the sky like a music fan at a rock concert. XD

Animation wasn't as polished as the first episode, but it held up well enough to make the fight between Reiner and Eren look good. Is it as good as their fight in season 2? Sadly no, but I still think the animators did well here, so I'm not disappointed at all.

The thunder spears were really powerful, though. Once Erwin flung Reiner off of him, Hange and the others went for Reiner's eyeballs and nape with the spears and the damage dealt must've been catastrophic. Perfect time for the episode to end on a cliffhanger here, so whether Reiner dies or lives will hopefully be answered in the next episode.
 
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