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| Kagura being adorable, hilarious and tough all at once. I love it! I definitely appreciate them spending time to introduce her properly to the series and not rushing it. I also felt some nostalgia from the first series this episode, more so than usual. No matter what, I can see this being such a nice little series all over again, especially now that we're getting into the swing of things. |
Everyone here going on about Kagura, but Yuki's zoom-and-charm was honestly the funniest moment of the series so far for me: |
| Tooru and Kyo are sooo cute together <3 |
| When they were on the roof .. The atmosfere and felt so great that I wanted to be up there with them great episode... |
| wow th boar appeared...she seems more scary than the original.... nice so excited |
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| I didn't like this ep as much as some others. I never was fan of Kagura and this ep reminded me why. I didn't get it first time reading the manga.. but she's yandere isn't she.. Best part was Shigure starting to talk about sex (with member of zodiac) and Yuki just shutting him down, let's not go there xd |
| As much as the show tried to make me like her, I can't stand Kagura at all, as she's absolutely insufferable and just spends the entire episode breaking stuff. |
| They even got the same voice actress for Kagura. Nice. |
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| Kagura is just epically annoying. So basically apart from some heartfelt moment between Tohru and Kyo on the roof and the transformation scene with Yuki saving the day nothing really happened. I feel sorry for all the wasted food and damaged furniture. |
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| I still despise Kagura. |
| Why does it seem a theme that people are up in arms about Tohru's dream to get married? I'm a guy, and that's my biggest dream. I understand that not everyone has the same feelings, but I don't think it makes her shallow nor that it necessarily "dates" her as a character. Yes, her statement as formulated was a sweeping generalization, but I attribute that more to the situation and her youth than intentional blindness. Regardless, I think it's admirable that she dreams of being able to love someone enough to completely commit to them, to be willing to sacrifice some of her desires to make her spouse happy as they concomitantly sacrifice to make her happy. Maybe I'm just a bit peeved, but people happening to align themselves with traditional gender roles isn't inherently sexist. In my opinion, sexism is purposefully suggesting that those roles are the only fit for a person; indirect suggestions are always harder to judge. |
| Every day you can read a book or watch some anime is a good day! |
| Kagura!!! This gave me some early 2000s anime vibe by the way Kagura beat that shit out of Kyo. I remember how violent she was in the early version. I like how they were still able to retain some semblance of seriousness despite how intense Kagura can be. I heard this series will focus more on the serious tone of the manga and I'm onboard with that. |
| 臭い- |
| Kagura a cutie, Rie makes characters great. |
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| Good episode, especially the first 5 min, they were funny af lol I know Tooru is a sweet girl and full of wholesomeness but its kinda getting repetitive if she's sharing her "wisdom" every damn episode, to the Soumas. |
| I'm pretty sure most of Kagura's moves were taken from fighting game animations (like that move that knocks Kyon into the TV I believe is from a King of Fighters game). |
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| Well, I wasn't sure what all the hype for Fruits Basket was about, never even heard of it until recently. When I saw it, I thought it would be more romancy, haremy, cuter. I mean it's cute, but this has gone way further down the comedy route than I had imagined. Characters have been way wackier and over the top than I expected, and it's nice. This has been a lot of fun, kind of annoying at times but mostly fun. |
A Wild and Small Otaku has Appeared! |
| Kagura is very emotional...Kyo always has to be the one that gets beat up. Poor guy... Two years older than the other Soumas...so Kagura is currently the oldest Souma we've seen so far. I wonder who Kyo's master is. He's probably the Dragon... "I'd forgive affairs as momentary lapses." WOMAN! RIGHT THROUGH THE TABLE! NOW RIGHT THROUGH THE TV! Kagura is expensive! Boars tend to look pretty ugly...but Boar Kagura is so cute! Single-mindedly running towards goals...I guess the zodiac is more than just the animals...Kugimiya still sounding like Kugimiya after so many years... |
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gaussian_ said: Why does it seem a theme that people are up in arms about Tohru's dream to get married? I'm a guy, and that's my biggest dream. I understand that not everyone has the same feelings, but I don't think it makes her shallow nor that it necessarily "dates" her as a character. If marrying is her greatest dream, I have no problem with this. She is free to do with her life whatever she wants. If she said 'Marrying is my greatest dream" , I would have said nothing, but she made a sweeping generalization that it is so for every woman. This makes the story feel dated. I mean in 1998 when the manga started coming out no one would bat an eyelid at such a statement, but now I wonder if she or anyone would say something like this knowing today's world. She probably would have adjust it, for example "Marrying is the greatest dream for some/many girls" or "Many girls dream about marrying", etc. Other than that popular shoujo stories have different kind of heroines now. Ones that have other goals than marriage (though relationships are still important) like helping people, working as botanists(?), etc. Marriage does no longer appear to be the greatest and only wish of shoujo heroines as it used to, at least not in the most popular shows, which from societal point of view most likely mirrors the wishes of modern girls. |
| "The moment one sits down to think, one becomes all nose, or all forehead, or something horrid. Look at the successful men in any of the learned professions. How perfectly hideous they are! Except, of course, in the Church. But then in the Church they don't think. A bishop keeps on saying at the age of eighty what he was told to say when he was a boy of eighteen, and as a natural consequence he always looks absolutely delightful." |
Lain666 said: gaussian_ said: Why does it seem a theme that people are up in arms about Tohru's dream to get married? I'm a guy, and that's my biggest dream. I understand that not everyone has the same feelings, but I don't think it makes her shallow nor that it necessarily "dates" her as a character. If marrying is her greatest dream, I have no problem with this. She is free to do with her life whatever she wants. If she said 'Marrying is my greatest dream" , I would have said nothing, but she made a sweeping generalization that it is so for every woman. This makes the story feel dated. I mean in 1998 when the manga started coming out no one would bat an eyelid at such a statement, but now I wonder if she or anyone would say something like this knowing today's world. She probably would have adjust it, for example "Marrying is the greatest dream for some/many girls" or "Many girls dream about marrying", etc. Other than that popular shoujo stories have different kind of heroines now. Ones that have other goals than marriage (though relationships are still important) like helping people, working as botanists(?), etc. Marriage does no longer appear to be the greatest and only wish of shoujo heroines as it used to, at least not in the most popular shows, which from societal point of view most likely mirrors the wishes of modern girls. I don't know about you but I hear that "Marriage is a woman's dream" line frequently in anime even now. It's hard to get rid of when that's still the prevailing thought in Japan. They don't have much contact with the Western world, you know. Even if you say Shoujo heroines are different now they really aren't because the goal of every Shoujo manga, even the modern ones, has been to get their protagonist wedded to their best match. Granted I don't watch many Shoujo but of the ones I know of I can't think of a single one where this isn't the goal. Japan is a country that values old time traditions above all else. Its still run by arrogant old men on conservative values. And to be honest, America and the UK are the same way too largely. Progressives on twitter aren't representative of the countries. |
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MoonStar9 said: Lain666 said: If marrying is her greatest dream, I have no problem with this. She is free to do with her life whatever she wants. If she said 'Marrying is my greatest dream" , I would have said nothing, but she made a sweeping generalization that it is so for every woman. This makes the story feel dated. I mean in 1998 when the manga started coming out no one would bat an eyelid at such a statement, but now I wonder if she or anyone would say something like this knowing today's world. She probably would have adjust it, for example "Marrying is the greatest dream for some/many girls" or "Many girls dream about marrying", etc. Other than that popular shoujo stories have different kind of heroines now. Ones that have other goals than marriage (though relationships are still important) like helping people, working as botanists(?), etc. Marriage does no longer appear to be the greatest and only wish of shoujo heroines as it used to, at least not in the most popular shows, which from societal point of view most likely mirrors the wishes of modern girls. I don't know about you but I hear that "Marriage is a woman's dream" line frequently in anime even now. It's hard to get rid of when that's still the prevailing thought in Japan. They don't have much contact with the Western world, you know. Even if you say Shoujo heroines are different now they really aren't because the goal of every Shoujo manga, even the modern ones, has been to get their protagonist wedded to their best match. Granted I don't watch many Shoujo but of the ones I know of I can't think of a single one where this isn't the goal. Japan is a country that values old time traditions above all else. Its still run by arrogant old men on conservative values. And to be honest, America and the UK are the same way too largely. Progressives on twitter aren't representative of the countries. And how my post is denying it that marriage/relationship is not important in modern shoujo? I wrote there that relationships are still important, but they are not as important as their used to be and heroines often have other goals as well now. |
| "The moment one sits down to think, one becomes all nose, or all forehead, or something horrid. Look at the successful men in any of the learned professions. How perfectly hideous they are! Except, of course, in the Church. But then in the Church they don't think. A bishop keeps on saying at the age of eighty what he was told to say when he was a boy of eighteen, and as a natural consequence he always looks absolutely delightful." |
 Left hand inc. gg Tooru |
Lain666 said: MoonStar9 said: I don't know about you but I hear that "Marriage is a woman's dream" line frequently in anime even now. It's hard to get rid of when that's still the prevailing thought in Japan. They don't have much contact with the Western world, you know. Even if you say Shoujo heroines are different now they really aren't because the goal of every Shoujo manga, even the modern ones, has been to get their protagonist wedded to their best match. Granted I don't watch many Shoujo but of the ones I know of I can't think of a single one where this isn't the goal. Japan is a country that values old time traditions above all else. Its still run by arrogant old men on conservative values. And to be honest, America and the UK are the same way too largely. Progressives on twitter aren't representative of the countries. And how my post is denying it that marriage/relationship is not important in modern shoujo? I wrote there that relationships are still important, but they are not as important as their used to be and heroines often have other goals as well now. Just wanted to point out it wasn't so much a Fruits Basket thing as it is a Japan thing, then and now. |
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| Kagura is literally a domestic abuser. It's not funny or cute. Kyo gets constantly victim blamed too and forced to accept this toxicity as normal by everyone around him. He can't even defend himself even at the threat of his own life because "you can't hit a girl". This arc really does not translate well anymore. I didn't realize back then why I hated her so much, but it's because of this. Not her clingy or annyoungness, her abuse. |
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| Having Rie Kugimiya voice Soma Kagura is perfection. |
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| How did Kagura and her abusive behaviors slip right by me watching Fruits Basket for the first time...? And Tohru endorsing it? "She loves you so much uwu". Yikes. Interesting to see how they're changing it from the manga. Not too much that it matters, but I will say that both the manga and the older version of the anime were funnier. This show is obviously dated. Still enjoyable all the same, but it does a feel a bit off at times because of the older mindset it was created with. Tohru is best girl and no one can take that title from her. I am excited to watch her character unfold as the anime goes on. |
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| People calling Fruits basket dated makin me feel old as fuck, I read the damn manga as it was coming out ;;; Character development is a thing btw, try not to look at Kagura as a villain. |
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| Well hello there Kagura! She is some explosive girl and I feel sorry for Kyou. I didn't expect it, but Kyou and Tooru had a really nice and quiet moment on the roof together. Kyou is such a sweet guy underneath that cold attitude. Kagura confuses possessiveness/abusiveness with love and has a lot to learn in that aspect. Her zodiac form is adorable though! I also loved how Tooru 'guessed' her true form after she 'hugged' that mail guy and transformed. Shigure's reaction was gold. Can't wait for next week! |
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| I enjoyed the previous episodes, but this.. wtf is this? That girl acts like a psycho and no one cares, and not only that but she also plays the victim the next minute, they give us a muh "sad mood" and we're supposed to feel sory for her or what? I wished someone could just slap her. God, this reminds me why I dislike shoujo, I thought this was going to be an exception because it started really well, but now I'm pissed. I feel sorry for Kyou atm, his surroundings in general are so oppressive it's not surprising he acts like that. This is very sad, actually. Now could some manga reader please spoil me if Kagura ends up with someone, and if yes - with who? Does she appear often? Because I don't know if I should continue this or not. |
fuyukiApr 28, 2019 9:26 PM
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fuyuki said: I enjoyed the previous episodes, but this.. wtf is this? That girl acts like a psycho and no one cares, and not only that but she also plays the victim the next minute, they give us a muh "sad mood" and we're supposed to feel sory for her or what? I wished someone could just slap her. God, this reminds me why I dislike shoujo, I thought this was going to be an exception because it started really well, but now I'm pissed. I feel sorry for Kyou atm, his surroundings in general are so oppressive it's not surprising he acts like that. This is very sad, actually. Now could some manga reader please spoil me if Kagura ends up with someone, and if yes - with who? Does she appear often? Because I don't know if I should continue this or not. |
Ruise said: Okay, that's good to hear. I guess I'll continue watching this, thanks.fuyuki said: I enjoyed the previous episodes, but this.. wtf is this? That girl acts like a psycho and no one cares, and not only that but she also plays the victim the next minute, they give us a muh "sad mood" and we're supposed to feel sory for her or what? I wished someone could just slap her. God, this reminds me why I dislike shoujo, I thought this was going to be an exception because it started really well, but now I'm pissed. I feel sorry for Kyou atm, his surroundings in general are so oppressive it's not surprising he acts like that. This is very sad, actually. Now could some manga reader please spoil me if Kagura ends up with someone, and if yes - with who? Does she appear often? Because I don't know if I should continue this or not. |
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| I can't believe how sweet Tooru is, I just want to hug her! I feel sorry for Shigure, how many times has he had to repair a hole somewhere in his house? Kagura Is a very interesting character, can't wait to see more of her! |
Oni_Zokuchou said: My god, I already hate Kagura. Abusive characters are so lame. Poor Cat. Seeing a lot of people saying stuff like “aw she’s violent but her love is pure!” Ex-fucking-cuse me? The girl needs a therapist/a visit to the psyc ward, and a lesson on how not to be a terrible human being and how to express affection. But it’s okay right, because violent bipolar-like outbursts of assault are fine when it’s a cute girl doing it. ...Right? You would have a point if Kagura's behaviour wasn't supposed to be comedic. The juxtaposition between this seemingly sweet and adorable girl and the extremely violent outbursts she is capable of is clearly not to be taken seriously. |
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JokerVentura said: Isn't it a blessing to have some care about you? When they're an obsessive violent sociopath..........gonna go with no. Poor Souma. Lol right? Touru is insane. Cant say I'm a fan of this new character, I'm glad the extreme over the top violent tsundere girl trope has died down in recent years. |
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