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Apr 20, 2019 6:43 PM

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The only thing the OPM anime had going for it was it’s animation quality and it’s gone. Now everyone will open their eyes and see how shallow the story and characters are, that’s not to mention how dragged out and boring it gets later in the manga


That doesn't explain why the manga's rating is so high.


Thank Murata’s art for that
Apr 20, 2019 11:12 PM

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Imo, s2 so far is somewhat worse in comparison, not just the animation, but the general layout, so to speak, including the choreography. But from all the negative complains I'd read before starting this season, I expected much much worse than it actually turned out.
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Apr 20, 2019 11:14 PM
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Show is the same, even though the animation isn't as good.If people hate it so much than why watch it. Compare this to Rage of Bahamut where the animation stayed the same, but the show just completely jumped off a cliff. I still don't understand why the animation isn't as good considering this is a very popular show and did well. They knew there was going to be a season 2 so how did they not get everything right is more concerning to me.
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looks ass i could do a better animation
agreed one hundred percent man
Apr 21, 2019 2:11 AM

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Luffyskywa1ker said:
Show is the same, even though the animation isn't as good.If people hate it so much than why watch it. Compare this to Rage of Bahamut where the animation stayed the same, but the show just completely jumped off a cliff. I still don't understand why the animation isn't as good considering this is a very popular show and did well. They knew there was going to be a season 2 so how did they not get everything right is more concerning to me.


what do you mean by "they knew"?
you do realize its a different studio right?

CG said:
Imo, s2 so far is somewhat worse in comparison, not just the animation, but the general layout, so to speak, including the choreography. But from all the negative complains I'd read before starting this season, I expected much much worse than it actually turned out.


ikr the animation isn't as bad as i thought
but i have a huge problem with those weird ass camera angles/switches which reminds me heavily of monogatari they do that the whole time and i fucking hate that shit
Apr 21, 2019 4:57 AM
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Daphi said:
Luffyskywa1ker said:
Show is the same, even though the animation isn't as good.If people hate it so much than why watch it. Compare this to Rage of Bahamut where the animation stayed the same, but the show just completely jumped off a cliff. I still don't understand why the animation isn't as good considering this is a very popular show and did well. They knew there was going to be a season 2 so how did they not get everything right is more concerning to me.


what do you mean by "they knew"?
you do realize its a different studio right?


ikr the animation isn't as bad as i thought
but i have a huge problem with those weird ass camera angles/switches which reminds me heavily of monogatari they do that the whole time and i fucking hate that shit

I was using they as a broad term for many. Everyone and there mom knew there'd be a second season to one punch man it's one of the most popular anime ever. So I mean "they" as the people involved in creating the first season and involved with the anime in general, should've already been locked in to create the second season after the success of the first season. It's not like it's a new anime where they were taking a chance because it might fail.
Apr 21, 2019 5:47 AM

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Luffyskywa1ker said:
Daphi said:


what do you mean by "they knew"?
you do realize its a different studio right?


ikr the animation isn't as bad as i thought
but i have a huge problem with those weird ass camera angles/switches which reminds me heavily of monogatari they do that the whole time and i fucking hate that shit

I was using they as a broad term for many. Everyone and there mom knew there'd be a second season to one punch man it's one of the most popular anime ever. So I mean "they" as the people involved in creating the first season and involved with the anime in general, should've already been locked in to create the second season after the success of the first season. It's not like it's a new anime where they were taking a chance because it might fail.


misinterpreted what you meant

but yeah, madhouse should have done season 2, and one punch man came out 2015 they had 4 years to lock it in, instead they wasted their time on quite a lot of nonsense
Apr 21, 2019 6:35 AM
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I don't need the quality of season 1 tbh,but I expect OPM ss2 to be at least on par with some shit like Boruto.However,the Animation quality we are having is absolutely trash
Apr 21, 2019 7:32 AM

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Literally unwatchable. Im surprised it's score is that high. Went from masterpiece to a average skippable show.
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season 2 will be as good as season 1, or better.
Just bc a bit of animation dropped down (or what else people are complaining about) I won‘t gonna hate it.
Kinda excited about the new villain.
Apr 21, 2019 7:41 AM
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i feel like the people dissing anyone who sais the animation is shit is missing the point. People who have watched OPM season 1 have expectations set by OPM season 1 for OPM season 2 to be as good or better than OPM season 1, whether you think that's right is up to you, but i personally think that it is entirely reasonable to assume a sequel will be at the very least up to par to it's prequel. Now, there are some things that cant be changed in a sequel when it's following off of another work (read: anime and manga/lightnovels) such as the main story beats and characters, so if those things are shit in the manga then, unfortunately, it is most likely going to be just as bad in the anime assuming it follows the manga closely.

With all that said, there are things that CAN stay consistent throughout seasons. Animation being one of those things. OPM s2 has failed in that regard, even if you hate the people who keep riffing on it, you can't deny the major drop in quality animation-wise for this season. You can try to dismiss it or rationalize it by saying "But they had a different studio, overwork, deadlines" etc. but the bottom line is this:

OPM s2 is vastly inferior to s1 in animation, and this made people very dissapointed who enjoyed the 1st season for its amazing animation, you telling them of some outside circumstances that made this happen doesn't change anything, the animation is still shit.



tl;dr animation bad
Apr 21, 2019 9:18 AM

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like it so far.. dont give a f. what ppl saying about animation. We all know the anime community is a bunch of salty kids who are bored if they cant hate on eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevery little detail.
Apr 21, 2019 4:39 PM
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deffo better animation than I expected
Apr 22, 2019 9:34 AM

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Daphi said:

but yeah, madhouse should have done season 2, and one punch man came out 2015 they had 4 years to lock it in, instead they wasted their time on quite a lot of nonsense


That's not even remotely how it works or even would have worked but I guess some people need their headcanon.
Apr 22, 2019 10:03 AM

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Fappa said:
Daphi said:

but yeah, madhouse should have done season 2, and one punch man came out 2015 they had 4 years to lock it in, instead they wasted their time on quite a lot of nonsense


That's not even remotely how it works or even would have worked but I guess some people need their headcanon.


then how does it work? im actually quite curious about the process behind it
if you are knowledgeable in the field id actually be thankful if you could explain it

i guess as far as i understand it right now they outsourced the animation jobs for OPM1 to specific animators as someone told me, not sure whether this is true, but this could apparently be 1 reason why they didn't do it at least according to some people, so these animators weren't available during those 4 years?

or did they never have the budget during those 4 years? if this is the case they should not have wasted their budget on random anime, but i guess this is not the case either

if you know more, id love to understand why they didn't do Season 2
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Daphi said:

then how does it work? im actually quite curious about the process behind it
if you are knowledgeable in the field id actually be thankful if you could explain it

i guess as far as i understand it right now they outsourced the animation jobs for OPM1 to specific animators as someone told me, not sure whether this is true, but this could apparently be 1 reason why they didn't do it at least according to some people, so these animators weren't available during those 4 years?

or did they never have the budget during those 4 years? if this is the case they should not have wasted their budget on random anime, but i guess this is not the case either

if you know more, id love to understand why they didn't do Season 2



Nearly every production has outsourcing to a degree, it's ingrained into the current system. Saying that the reason for OPM1's quality was merely "outsourcing" is minimalizing it to a degree where it's becoming inaccurate.

The reason for why Season 1 ended up the way it did was through the combined effort of Natsume Shingo, Kubota & the show's producer. Especially the producer & Natsume have a wide net of connections through the history and especially the latter expanded said net with his participation in Space Dandy. So with this array of connections at their disposal and a rather solid schedule they were able to invite all kinds of talent to join in on the production and help out. If I had to describe it, I would rather say it's an industry-wide "All Star" project rather than outsourcing. Oh and before you're told that it's somehow a Bones production in disguise, it's not. That's some misguided belief based on people overblowing the presence of Bones affiliates.

Budget has in no way any role in this whatsoever. "They" who provided & earned the money are the committee who consist of a group of companies so them not having the money simply does not happen.

Now as to why the sequel went to the new studio and new staff. It's actually rather simple once you think about it.

Well first off, it's important to know that studios and individual staff tend to be booked out for years in advance so spontaneous planning such as "Well our show concluded, wanna do a sequel now?" simply does not happen. The key staff not being available played a key role in why things went the way they did.

Natsume who is the pillar of the project went off to direct Boogiepop among other guest appearances on OP/ED, Episode directors, storyboards etc. With Natsume gone the source of where all the staff from S1 came from was effectively also gone leaving a rather meager in-house staff lineup at Madhouse who were both booked out and not capable of producing a sequel.

The committee wanted to ride on the wave of success the previous project caused and couldn't wait 3-4 years for Natsume to finish his Boogiepop project only to then take another 2-ish years to produce a sequel, that would've just been too long. So since Madhouse was booked out and wouldn't have had the necessary means available anyway, they went looking elsewhere.
Apr 22, 2019 6:05 PM

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wikika said:
deffo better animation than I expected


Indeed. I saw mention of the animation being bad on here so I was hestitant to watch. Turns out the animation is actually pretty good.

Anyone that is saying the animation is terrible obviously has their head in their ass.
Its only terrible compared to Season 1, and lets be real here:
Season 1 had way better animation then any anime has a right to be. Even if we loved it for it, there's absolutely no reason to expect another season to come even close to that even if the same studio had and people had done it.

Which is probably the reason Madhouse didnt do the Second reason. They knew this.
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Fappa said:


The committee wanted to ride on the wave of success the previous project caused and couldn't wait 3-4 years for Natsume to finish his Boogiepop project only to then take another 2-ish years to produce a sequel, that would've just been too long. So since Madhouse was booked out and wouldn't have had the necessary means available anyway, they went looking elsewhere.


Do you think Natsume Shingo could come back for season 3 if he's free then? Or will it continue to be handled by the S2 team?
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animation looks the same as previous season but because madhouse didn't do it people are complaining. Pretty sad
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Apr 24, 2019 10:48 PM

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animation looks the same as previous season but because madhouse didn't do it people are complaining. Pretty sad

Animation does not look the same
Apr 24, 2019 11:02 PM

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my opinion is that it's making me sad. it's sad to read the manga and see great jokes, interactions and amazing fights just to realize that probrably none of it it's going to be on the show. my heart really just hurts. i really wanted to see this part done well in animation, to make justice to the manga, but for the looks of it, it's gonna be bad. and it's very revolting tbh. i hope that at least the characters will continue to be well portraited and written, that's literally the only quality left.
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The first episode had mixed animation, the second episode had terrible animtion besides from one or two shots and the third episode had good enough animation. If every episode is gonna be just as good in the animation departement as episode three then we are set for a great anime.
Apr 27, 2019 6:25 PM

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Yeah I was one of the main people on the hate train when that last PA dropped. Althiugh the production quality is lower than season 1 it's still pretty solid and I'm thoroughly enjoying season 2.
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I like it so far, especially episode 3. I probably would've liked this season more if the animation was consistently on par with Season 1's animation, but I'm not that upset about it. Though I've seen people complain about the lack of Saitama in this season. I'm not too bothered about this myself.
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SRti0 said:

So what are your opinions on the season so far?


It's sh*t, One Punch Man S2 "Anime" seems like to lean more and more to shonen genre (*it's Seinen) bec. of the direction of the character.Looks like J. C staff really like the Fan service than the story.

Well I guess I'm still gona read the Manga
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kaneki_spaghetti said:
SRti0 said:

So what are your opinions on the season so far?


It's sh*t, One Punch Man S2 "Anime" seems like to lean more and more to shonen genre (*it's Seinen) bec. of the direction of the character.Looks like J. C staff really like the Fan service than the story.

Well I guess I'm still gona read the Manga

Shounen and seinen aren't genres. Demographics have nothing to do with plot.
May 4, 2019 8:33 PM
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So far so good, i guess... It's better than I expected it would be.
May 4, 2019 8:53 PM

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It is better than season 1.
May 5, 2019 12:38 AM
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There's a couple of people saying that S02 is better than S01, it's not and that joke isn't funny either.

S02 isn't trash, it's average (or hopefully above average) so far but hearing people saying that it's better than S01 is pretty weird.
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Lmao @people bitching about animation quality "mY eyEs huRt tHis iS gArbaGe"

I didn't even notice the visual change till I saw some folks hating on it. If you don't like it don't watch it. If you do watch it, stfu and let other people enjoy the anime.

It's still fun. It's still one punch man. It's good enough.
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There's a couple of people saying that S02 is better than S01, it's not and that joke isn't funny either.

S02 isn't trash, it's average (or hopefully above average) so far but hearing people saying that it's better than S01 is pretty weird.

Some people just love supporting the underdog.
May 6, 2019 12:47 AM
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They should honestly be ashamed that they would compare this to the first season with the awful pacing and appalling animation. We as a community have accepted mediocrity,this is why we get shows like Berserk (the newer one). We have sacrificed beautiful animation for cute girls and isekais.
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Lmao @people bitching about animation quality "mY eyEs huRt tHis iS gArbaGe"

I didn't even notice the visual change till I saw some folks hating on it. If you don't like it don't watch it. If you do watch it, stfu and let other people enjoy the anime.

It's still fun. It's still one punch man. It's good enough.

You're either trying to bait people or just blind because OPM Season 1 started with one of the best animated scenes in all of anime. This is referring to the dream sequence. You didn't notice the change from that to let's say one of the king scenes? If not you might want to just watch flip books.
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It's great! I like the story so far and the all the action.
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Tbh I think it's fine? I've always kinda seen OPM as just a fun satire of superhero tropes with great action and fun characters, and so far it's been delivering just fine on that note. Not sure why everyone's been complaining about this season so far, but it's just fine for me.
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Where is the music? Scene transition , directing and humor are dead and gone in s2.
Animation is ok . Not even close to S1 brilliance but viable.

The lack of music in both episodes made them painful to watch for me.
I kept expecting a nice tune to signal a comedy moment , or to generate hype before an incoming fight but got some choppy scene transitions and backround musicy noise instead.


This is how I feel. i noticed the drop in animation but didn’t mind it as much as how messy the direction of each episode is, and the lack of reaction i have every episode. I had to go to the forums to see what the problem with the execution came from
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I was expecting an major animation downgrade with JC at the helm, so I was prepared for that. I wasn't prepared for everything other aspect of the anime to be downgraded along with it. The art, the editing, the audio work, even the voice acting feels halfassed at best. Major disappointment that's bordering on trash.
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I was expecting an major animation downgrade with JC at the helm, so I was prepared for that. I wasn't prepared for everything other aspect of the anime to be downgraded along with it. The art, the editing, the audio work, even the voice acting feels halfassed at best. Major disappointment that's bordering on trash.

especially the pacing in the recent episode. the show just completely collapsed.
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animation looks the same as previous season but because madhouse didn't do it people are complaining. Pretty sad

compare the first episode of the first season to the first episode of the second and come back after doing that.
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It's sh*t, One Punch Man S2 "Anime" seems like to lean more and more to shonen genre (*it's Seinen) bec. of the direction of the character.Looks like J. C staff really like the Fan service than the story.

Well I guess I'm still gona read the Manga

Shounen and seinen aren't genres. Demographics have nothing to do with plot.


I agree that shounen and seinen aren't genres, but to say they don't have an impact on the plot is false. Contrast something like Berserk - a seinen, with any shounen for example, with a few exceptions like Death Note, shounens writing is meant to be understandable and age appropriate for 10-18 year olds, so the writing is generally simpler and lighter, meanwhile, seinen doesn't have to do that as it's primarily made for an adult audience. What demographic the show wants to appeal to very much affects the writing style.
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SRti0 said:
bastek66 said:

Shounen and seinen aren't genres. Demographics have nothing to do with plot.


I agree that shounen and seinen aren't genres, but to say they don't have an impact on the plot is false. Contrast something like Berserk - a seinen, with any shounen for example, with a few exceptions like Death Note, shounens writing is meant to be understandable and age appropriate for 10-18 year olds, so the writing is generally simpler and lighter, meanwhile, seinen doesn't have to do that as it's primarily made for an adult audience. What demographic the show wants to appeal to very much affects the writing style.

Gochiusa is seinen,Yotsuba& and SnK are shounen. It really doesn't matter.
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Who cares. Is just and anime they will have its ups and downs..I still like OMP.
let's enjoy..season one was the top tear I cant imagine any anime replicating such visuals.
Let's enjoy.
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Cor007 said:
Who cares. Is just and anime they will have its ups and downs..I still like OMP.
let's enjoy..season one was the top tear I cant imagine any anime replicating such visuals.
Let's enjoy.
My 2cents.


Anybody that cares about quality will care about this, people that cared about Berserk aren't happy to see how the anime turned out to be, the manga is awesome but the anime was a complete and utter disaster.
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Animation aside, I'm still Enjoying the Show
OPMS2 suffers by comparison with S1 where the animators pulled out all the stops and did some genuinely fantastic work with Amazing visuals so yeah, the disappointment with OPMS2 is well deserved & it deserves every bit of criticism.



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it's fine the animation might be disappointing since i expected it to be in the par of Taboo Tattoo (J.C Staff's best animation action anime)but I appreciate that they're in a tight schedule and most of this season's animators are from the food wars anime so that doesn't helping much but at least they might deliver in the the touching important scenes , comedy gags and the important battles related to the story because that's seems the way they're going with to save their tightened time for those things i mentioned before
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The anime does follow the manga's story almost perfectly but it doesn't adapt it well at all. Like Chibi said it's missing that flair, that emotion and passion that season one had because they cut so many corners. So many great scenes from the manga lose all their hype and impact in the anime because they are done so lazily. For example the whole scene where flashy flash takes out the that octopus monster, 80% of that scene was cut out in the anime and in the end the situation doesn't look as nearly as dire as in the manga. They barely even mention threat levels of these monsters which was a huge part of the manga and aided in the sense of danger and urgency in this arc. Season 1 not only had infinitely superior animation but infinitely better direction. It was a perfect adaptation of the manga. This season is a extreme disappointment
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Lets be honest, with this BAD RECEPTION of people from one punch man 2, it will be lucky if it will even have a season 3. I mean the disappointment is real, and just take a look at MAL score, reddit anime ranking and the anime trending page, and you will realize that this is not what you have waited for the season 2of said series.

*in Reddit upvotes of spring 2019 it sits in top 10 but its number is way far from what the top 3 series

* in MAL scoring list it seems that people accept that this is not a good season so scores are getting lower

* in anime trending poll, OPM 2 isnt even on top 10..

Thats how bad this series is so if you are expecting a season 3, its either it will NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OR a new studio will pick it up.
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Lets be honest, with this BAD RECEPTION of people from one punch man 2, it will be lucky if it will even have a season 3. I mean the disappointment is real, and just take a look at MAL score, reddit anime ranking and the anime trending page, and you will realize that this is not what you have waited for the season 2of said series.

*in Reddit upvotes of spring 2019 it sits in top 10 but its number is way far from what the top 3 series

* in MAL scoring list it seems that people accept that this is not a good season so scores are getting lower

* in anime trending poll, OPM 2 isnt even on top 10..

Thats how bad this series is so if you are expecting a season 3, its either it will NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OR a new studio will pick it up.


where do you find the anime trending poll? Just wondering
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LeSponge said:
Lets be honest, with this BAD RECEPTION of people from one punch man 2, it will be lucky if it will even have a season 3. I mean the disappointment is real, and just take a look at MAL score, reddit anime ranking and the anime trending page, and you will realize that this is not what you have waited for the season 2of said series.

*in Reddit upvotes of spring 2019 it sits in top 10 but its number is way far from what the top 3 series

* in MAL scoring list it seems that people accept that this is not a good season so scores are getting lower

* in anime trending poll, OPM 2 isnt even on top 10..

Thats how bad this series is so if you are expecting a season 3, its either it will NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OR a new studio will pick it up.

I would rather not have season 3 at all if it's the continuation of this dogshit of a sequel. This season hurted OPM reputation too much so a season 3 like this would just kill the franchise at this point.
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