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| Good episode! I wont tell that animation was bad, that it wasn't, just the middle of the fight, was kinda hard to follow, just because of background design i didn't felt completely satisfied! But, Asta's final blow on Ladros was epic and the black meteor part awell, and the way he finished the fight was so badass! In my opinion the fight i enjoyed more was Lich vs Yami in the cave, i loved every single part of that fight, and followed easily! Completely epic! I am glad to see that Asta had controled his power himself! And that first form was cool! Mars and Fana ignoring Asta was priceless! Of course that witch queen would be another antagonist, and after all their help, uses it to control Asta and take his swords into her control! That cliffhanger, i am so much hyped and curious to see what Vanessa will do! |
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| Nice episode. Less cringe and more action! Not a fan of the Fate/Apo (but worse) battle animation. Can't keep track of what's happening most of the time because of the bad background and some bad angles too. But I really like the moment when Asta was about to "transform". It was done better than the battle itself. Well, it can't be helped coz the battle scene needs a lot of frames to work on. XD  |
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| Great episode! I was looking forward to seeing this animated! |
| Wow! Asta's first time as Black Asta, we should hype up this episode and make it as high quality as the final fight against Vetto! *Production team: Yea that's a thought, but how about we make it look like shit instead? B-but its a super important and badass fight, we should pump some production values into it *Production team: *makes it look like shit* Oh...ok then. Seriously, this episode looked like absolute dogshit. Seeing people argue on here whether or not the art or the animation was bad is like watching a group of chimp and a group of baboons hurl shit at each other. They were both bad. The art did have moments where it was good, or where it went a bit abstract for the sake of making it look unique, but at the times where it mattered it looked terrible (aka during 99% of the fight scenes). The animation was also atrocious. That flying scene barely looked like a flying scene, it looked like the bodies were being cut and pasted over random CGI trees, and just floating in nothingness. You can't honestly look at that and tell me it actually looked good. If you want examples of where they dipped the art quality or changed the art style to make the most of the animation look at the final fight in Fate/Apocrypha or some of the fights in Grancrest Senki. THOSE are fights that prioritized the animation. THIS was just a shit low quality production episode. And if you still want to try and argue it just look at the final Vetto fight where Asta finally beats him. The animation quality was above and beyond the previous 40 something episodes combined, and the actual art stayed consistently good through like 85-90% of that episode. If this episode got that same treatment it would've been one of the best shounen fights in the last few years. Hell, if it even got half of the love and care of the Vetto fight it would've been at least above average. At BARE MINIMUM they should've made this episode on par with the YamixLicht fight in terms of quality. That fight was probably the second best art + animation in the show. |
| Obvious what they we're trying to do with the animation, just didnt seem like they had enough budget to do it all. First half of Ladros fight wasnt very good, second half things got better |
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| I've maintained this view from the start of the action in this anime, 'Black Clover' would benefit from having 'Devilman: Crybaby' animation or animation similar to its current Ending Theme -which it did; albeit, perhaps a little overkill. Nonetheless, it made for a great episode. however, i actually thought Asta would be more than just that hero with zero deaths, but he's just that. he didn't kill that "salad" villain in the end... and I couldn't believe that it was a seemingly irrelevant villain that brought out the demon within -in any case, at least it didn't seem much like 'kyuubi' release in naruto but instead triggered in part by The Queen of Witches. pleasantly different. But they (Studio Pierrot) left Tokyo Ghoul a shambles in their budgeting for these two releases, which is annoying -and the animation is probably dropping down next week as well. (yet I'll remain optimistic) |
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| 100 times better than stupid anime i hate (naruto). The first time I watched this anime, I knew that this anime would have a epic battle (royale) |
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tambi33 said: brought out the demon within -in any case, at least it didn't seem much like 'kyuubi' release in naruto but instead triggered in part by The Queen of Witches. pleasantly different. I see it more as ichigo and his hollow. |
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| Of course the plebs who can't tell the difference between art style and animation espose themselves. Art style was a lot more fitting than Naruto vs Pain. Okay, it did look pretty bleh at some parts. Anyway it looks like Asta's transformation isn't quite the super evil mode it looked like it'd be. That's actually pretty refreshing. Too bad someone else is here to control him anyway. No Petit Clover so you know this shit is serious! |
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| Damn, what an episode! Asta was truly scary but i think that the little comedy it had, ruined the seriousness of the moment. So, not having magic is what makes him truly special and unique, because nobody else could swing that sword. It's funny, the queen of witches is so useless.... hope Asta beats the s*** out of her xD |
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| Best episode so far. But visuals look little weird, but still most entertaining episode so far and next episode looks good |
| so like what was with the distorted CG... I mean I am not complaining but it seemed a smash of animation from samurai jack and devilman..... Also did Asta reminded anyone of Devil Jin from Tekkan ...also that devil reference reminded me of Naruto and nine tales...or maybe its all i my head |
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howamI said: honestly i don't get if yall like this episode or not "actually the animation it's great, but they had to sacrifice the art" NIGGA WHAT so you admit it looks like shit? NIGGA WHAT? whats hard to understand there? the easy to draw something then the better you can make animation out of it in other words the drawings are so simple in this episode thats why the animators can freely draw more movements/animation or simply they can draw more frames to animate |
howamI said: deg said: NIGGA WHAT? whats hard to understand there? the easy to draw something then the better you can make animation out of it in other words the drawings are so simple in this episode thats why the animators can freely draw more movements/animation or simply they can draw more frames to animate so you admit it looks like shit not really animation is not just about better drawings anyway you got no idea what your talking about anyway and by that logic Naruto vs Pain fight is not sakuga to you too and just shit |
howamI said: deg said: not really animation is not just about better drawings anyway you got no idea what your talking about anyway and by that logic Naruto vs Pain fight is not sakuga to you too and just shit yea i know nothing about animation, but neither do you, so you don't have to be a full fledged animator to tell that this episode looks like ass at least im informed of what sakuga is unlike you sakuga is not just about better animation but also animation styles of the animators involved, that shit art style you referring to is actually just animation style of the animators involve in here |
| I must say, i'm in love with this anime, but this episode was a little bit too much. Yes the animation was very well made but my point is that it didn't fit in. I mean we're 63 episodes in and you suddenly introduce something new. I don't know how many episodes were finished before the first one was released and how making of it evolved over time but it's still weird. If i have any question it will surely be: Why was it introduced so late? We had other great fights during the last 62 episodes and they were perfect within the style of the anime, so it could've been used few more times. For any people who will immediately jump me and say "If you don't like it just don't watch it". I'll just ignore you as i'm more confused then mad cause it was great fight scene but also very disorienting as for simply, why so late? I hope my words will come across reasonable people and then i can get some interesting ways people see my statement. |
on HayTYouRFrienD said: I must say, i'm in love with this anime, but this episode was a little bit too much. Yes the animation was very well made but my point is that it didn't fit in. I mean we're 63 episodes in and you suddenly introduce something new. I don't know how many episodes were finished before the first one was released and how making of it evolved over time but it's still weird. If i have any question it will surely be: Why was it introduced so late? We had other great fights during the last 62 episodes and they were perfect within the style of the anime, so it could've been used few more times. For any people who will immediately jump me and say "If you don't like it just don't watch it". I'll just ignore you as i'm more confused then mad cause it was great fight scene but also very disorienting as for simply, why so late? I hope my words will come across reasonable people and then i can get some interesting ways people see my statement. its a staff rebellion due to poor working condition so they experimented with that kind of rough animation style, my sources are here https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1757006 |
| First episode where I didn’t know what the hell was going on through most of it, the same way you hear people say that about the Bayformers movies, which I’ve never had a problem with, myself... What should’ve been a clear-cut, over-the-top slice of action, was a sloppy, unintelligible, visual mess. But, at least it got back on point with one hell of a cliffhanger. |
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Gui_BR said: A animação desse episódio foi a pior do anime inteiro, até agora eu não tinha nada para reclamar de qualquer parte do anime,mas a animação desse episódio FICOU UMA MERDA! Stop being a pleb/ pare de ser plebeu. |
| i wonder how much budget they spent animating 10 minutes of the first half of total chaos?!? WEW! the Queen made this opportunity very useful to her! such despair coming out of her! Queen's power is same as Raizel? (Noblesse!?) looks like based from the next episode it's time for Vanessa to redeem herself! no petit clover! as expected, this series keeps getting better and better not the animation but the story! 5/5! LOLZ so many saying Devilman Crybaby, Mob Psycho 100, Fate Apocrypha people lashing out comparisons! |
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Z4k said: Jonesy974 said: Wow! Asta's first time as Black Asta, we should hype up this episode and make it as high quality as the final fight against Vetto! *Production team: Yea that's a thought, but how about we make it look like shit instead? B-but its a super important and badass fight, we should pump some production values into it *Production team: *makes it look like shit* Oh...ok then. Seriously, this episode looked like absolute dogshit. Seeing people argue on here whether or not the art or the animation was bad is like watching a group of chimp and a group of baboons hurl shit at each other. They were both bad. The art did have moments where it was good, or where it went a bit abstract for the sake of making it look unique, but at the times where it mattered it looked terrible (aka during 99% of the fight scenes). The animation was also atrocious. That flying scene barely looked like a flying scene, it looked like the bodies were being cut and pasted over random CGI trees, and just floating in nothingness. You can't honestly look at that and tell me it actually looked good. If you want examples of where they dipped the art quality or changed the art style to make the most of the animation look at the final fight in Fate/Apocrypha or some of the fights in Grancrest Senki. THOSE are fights that prioritized the animation. THIS was just a shit low quality production episode. And if you still want to try and argue it just look at the final Vetto fight where Asta finally beats him. The animation quality was above and beyond the previous 40 something episodes combined, and the actual art stayed consistently good through like 85-90% of that episode. If this episode got that same treatment it would've been one of the best shounen fights in the last few years. Hell, if it even got half of the love and care of the Vetto fight it would've been at least above average. At BARE MINIMUM they should've made this episode on par with the YamixLicht fight in terms of quality. That fight was probably the second best art + animation in the show. ITT: plebs who don't understand there are different styles of animation Oh shit, someone ACTUALLY justifying and excusing gif levels of animation as a "style". Yikes. Seek help chief. Just to give you some study material young lad, Ping Pong is an example of different animation style. Ping Pong still didnt look like a power point slide that someone was manually trying to click through as fast as possible...Unlike this episode. |
| That fight really was hard as hell to follow. |
Z4k said: Jonesy974 said: Oh shit, someone ACTUALLY justifying and excusing gif levels of animation as a "style". Yikes. Seek help chief. Just to give you some study material young lad, Ping Pong is an example of different animation style. Ping Pong still didnt look like a power point slide that someone was manually trying to click through as fast as possible...Unlike this episode. You should go to your nearest optician and get your eyes checked if you think any of these clips look like Power point slide lmao. https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/65607 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/65621 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/65617 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/65510 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/65505 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/65502 Embarrassing Congrats. You managed to find a cumulative 3-4 minutes of footage out of a 24 minute episode. AND you managed to include the horribly drawn and animated tree chase scene as part of your "argument". Holy mother of autism batman. |
MantraDesu said: The animation is garbage no doubt, it really put me off. Good episode but jesus I hope they don´t continue with this sloppy animation I really hope youre joking |
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MantraDesu said: theultimate341 said: I really hope youre joking Absolutely not, it was horrific by standards The animation was great wtf were you watching or did you just dislike the different art choices? I really dont understand how anyone can call this animation bad lol. |
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| Ok, the circumstances of the activation of Asta's powerup didn't convince me at all, but fuck it, what a great episode, I really loved the animation, perhaps the best episode of the series. |
Jonesy974 said: Oh shit, someone ACTUALLY justifying and excusing gif levels of animation as a "style". Yikes. Seek help chief. Just to give you some study material young lad, Ping Pong is an example of different animation style. Ping Pong still didnt look like a power point slide that someone was manually trying to click through as fast as possible...Unlike this episode. Seems like you don't know shit about animation dude. There's a Ohira-esque animation in this episode, which reminds me of Wanwa the doggy https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/65502 And Ping Pong is the least impressive Yuasa in terms of animation. The transition after he left Madhouse which he could do whatever because Maruyama was there hurt him. Kemonozume, Kaiba, and Tatami Galaxy is a better animated Yuasa. Devilman Crybaby tries to regain what he lost with the help of younger animators and almost fully produced in Flash, the same tools that some people used in this episode. While his old pal Michio Mihara abandons him because they clashed about the method he opt to use. And in Lu no Uta, what Yuasa did to Ohira's animation was really questionable. It's almost like a blasphemy. |
kyuudere said: Jonesy974 said: Oh shit, someone ACTUALLY justifying and excusing gif levels of animation as a "style". Yikes. Seek help chief. Just to give you some study material young lad, Ping Pong is an example of different animation style. Ping Pong still didnt look like a power point slide that someone was manually trying to click through as fast as possible...Unlike this episode. Seems like you don't know shit about animation dude. There's a Ohira-esque animation in this episode, which reminds me of Wanwa the doggy https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/65502 And Ping Pong is the least impressive Yuasa in terms of animation. The transition after he left Madhouse which he could do whatever because Maruyama was there hurt him. Kemonozume, Kaiba, and Tatami Galaxy is a better animated Yuasa. Devilman Crybaby tries to regain what he lost with the help of younger animators and almost fully produced in Flash, the same tools that some people used in this episode. While his old pal Michio Mihara abandons him because they clashed about the method he opt to use. And in Lu no Uta, what Yuasa did to Ohira's animation was really questionable. It's almost like a blasphemy. The scene you're referencing wasn't even one of the bad scenes. All of the bad art and animation were during the actual fighting. I dont think a single person, myself included had anything negative to say about his inner conscious scene. Not sure what compelled you to try and start an argument. |
Jonesy974 said: The scene you're referencing wasn't even one of the bad scenes. All of the bad art and animation were during the actual fighting. I dont think a single person, myself included had anything negative to say about his inner conscious scene. Not sure what compelled you to try and start an argument. And I'm not sure what compelled you to attack people who found the webgen style action attractive. That's a bigger yikes from me. |
kyuudere said: Jonesy974 said: The scene you're referencing wasn't even one of the bad scenes. All of the bad art and animation were during the actual fighting. I dont think a single person, myself included had anything negative to say about his inner conscious scene. Not sure what compelled you to try and start an argument. And I'm not sure what compelled you to attack people who found the webgen style action attractive. That's a bigger yikes from me. Because webgen fight scenes look like shit? There's a reason Studio Pierrot uses that as their go-to format for episodes in their shows that are both fight heavy and bottom of the list in the budget. Spoiler alert, its not for style. And there's also a reason its widely criticized when they inevitably do it in every shounen show they do. |
| I understood nothing at all from the first part of the combat, it would have been less confusing if there was a background. Then on the second half I could see trees painted by 5 years old kids, Asta's moving hair was glorious. The flame spreading seemed to have been taken out of a snes game, then some curvy bold lines appeared for intensity. Then a fire attack was shown with low quality background and dots randomly added on paint. Then I finally could see what I can call a "different acceptable art" with Asta being pushed through the trees by the villain's fire. The fire animation after this part looks like fire. Then Asta is walking, is that CGI??? The final parts were also bad, but I couldn't think of something to compare them with. I also wanna mention the frame rate went just as low as when I try to play Skyrim on my computer at some points. If all these things can be justified by being a "different art style", man... I do hate this art style, I had to pause and get some fresh air before I could continue, I couldn't watch it in one go, it managed to be twice as hard to watch for me when compared with Ajin, which I ended up dropping. |
| They Put all there budget on this one episode Great job... xd All jokes aside brilliant episode.. the fight scene was so damn good sheesh |
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