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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- What an undramatic way of killing Methode, like she wasn't an important character that fought with the heroine countless times... Same with Snowdrop, I thought she was an interesting character when she appeared but now she turned to be a really dull one. At least they didn't exactly mess the confession between Arato and Lacie. Even though Lacie "death" didn't feel that emotional to me tbh. Everything is back to normal though, Lacie is actually alive and Arato will be the owner of her again, kinda sweet they will probably go back to the normal life we saw in early episodes.  Unfortunately, in my opinion, these last 4 episodes had no improvements from the main series whatsoever. Which is really a shame because I thought that if they will take a season break maybe something can work out, but for me, it was as lackluster and boring as it was originally. |
MrMushinSep 28, 2018 7:46 AM
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| The moment when Arato expressed his true feelings to Lacia was sweet but sad at the same time. The betrayal within the mass prod units sure proved timely. Snowdrop though sure become creepy after absorbing Methode. Using love as collateral to establish a new relationship in the new world is fair. Though the struggle was a long one a future where both HIE's and humans can view each other with trust is now a reality. Lacia coming back though was quite the welcome surprise. A great episode and a great end to the series. The only gripe i had was probably Methode's fate. |
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| The show didn't answer the most important question of all: Does Lacia's new model have the 18+ functions? My man Arato is finally 18 ;) Less importantly: So Yuka is actually a hIE? She applied to be a model for Fabion MG. If that were the case then they should have made the reveal more obvious. |
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Chris-rttk said: Wait does that mean that Lacia and Arato end up being to get here but Lacia doesn't have her own body right ? What body does she have then ? Like she still has all of the memories with her and Arato but just looks completely different ? The Old body is like super robot that can do almost anything. Since I only watch the anime, I assume the current body is just like standard / Normal hIE with custom made appearance ( Can't use EMP and the like maybe. ). For memory one can't answer. |
HiddenArmySep 29, 2018 5:53 AM
| Beatless was such a frustrating experience to bear with. From the massive amount of plotholes, to boring content, to major production issues witht the constant delays, I was seriously hating this show more than any other show I've seen (including anime I consider worse than Beatless). Even though Beatless: Final Stage still has loads of issues and does suck with some plotholes and the ending felt weak to me, it was still a big improvement from its main series so I can rate that. Good for Arato for getting Lacia back. |
LTU_EiMs said: SNDT said: I didn't watch new episodes maybe thay changed that in the anime but one guy on the animesuki forum read the book "Lacia is dead. Like very dead. There was no backup of her personal memories/data at all whatsoever. The new bot is literally a new bot simply called Lacia and running off the system made by the original. Arato goes back to his usual life but the entity known as Lacia is erased, leaving behind the system that forms Higgins' replacement (the governing cloud of all hIE in the world is replaced by Lacia's system). He sees a hIE who looks like Lacia but isn't her in his home one day and who asks him to be his owner. But since Lacia was always just a "thing" and not a "soul" and this hIE looks and acts like Lacia and runs off her program based on her and Arato's interactions, Arato accepts it as ok and welcomes her again. Story then ends there." If they really "revived" Lacia in anime it's so weak lol. Another lame cliche ending about power of love... As I understand from discussion in 4chan they remake Lacia as regular hIE with her memories from black monolith. So I think this ending more sweeter then in the Novel. Yea, I already knew the novel ending beforehand but it seems like they took an anime-original ending route. So rejoice, my friends, Lacia is very much alive and Arato will get to redeem is 18+ rewards. |
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| I would have liked if Lacia remained killed, but nooooo, they "revived" her with the power of whatever that was. What a nut kicking finale 4/10 The anime had a really interesting premise but the direction and characters were terrible. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| For something that looks interesting at first it is very unfortunate that it turns into a very disappointing adaptation. The plot and terminology is not clear and I cannot identify what is going on certain episode. No character developments, the MC is useless and his best friend turns half way into an enemy cos I don't know what is he trying to do. His friends and family are pretty much useless. The only thing that was interesting was the Hie main character but they ended up the way I find it unacceptable. So I'm not really sure what else I can say about this show except emptiness and disappointment. |
RedChromeSep 30, 2018 3:50 AM
| I don't like how they revived Lacia smfh I wanted her to survive but that's such a cheap revival literally lol The show had potential but just wasn't executed well, a lot of characters were underused too 7/10 |
| well the end was somewhat fulfilling and somewhat missing something |
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| hmm glad that i binged it and not watched it weekly XD first off the ending were they met again probably shouldve inserted a bgm or something it somewhat felt flat i wish there was an episode about methode and her offscreen life instead of the recaps, probably wouldve understand her more she's interesting afterall, and the other lacia units aswell wouldve gave the story more depth. 4 browed loli from slightly cute to nightmare fuels i actually envy the mc has a really really understanding father, has a cute imouto, and a can do all waifu that never ages |
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simbee said: The show didn't answer the most important question of all: Does Lacia's new model have the 18+ functions? My man Arato is finally 18 ;) Less importantly: So Yuka is actually a hIE? She applied to be a model for Fabion MG. If that were the case then they should have made the reveal more obvious. Fabion also accepts Human Models though. In No way is Yuka an hIE. If she was she would have stopped and posed for awhile when the AASCII updates by Higgins was revoked by Astraia. Marriage and Methode was even shown to be immobilized when that happened. It looks like her new model is a customized hIE just for housekeeping. That 18+ function is probably there. |
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I see the tears on her eyes. Is she really a normal hie now? |
ryanstrikeSep 30, 2018 9:42 AM
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| they wouldn't go all these troubles if only Methode get rid of Snowdrop in the first place instead of attacking Lacia. and that's all because Ryo command her as the owner. isn't it ironic that he's a prodigy but can't sorted out top priority like that? looking back again, Yuka are partially at fault too for registering Lacia to a model contest. Higgins are so powerful that all other super intelligent AI are work together to weaken him, lmao. it is also a prove that even AI have their own political problems too. Lacia Black Monolith are now replace higgins role as super intelligent ai, right? but I am still wondering as to why Lacia and Arato want to shut down Higgins in the first place. all I can conclude is that Snowdrop and Methode are the source of the problem. I am glad that Lacia still alive, even without red box body, she could still give R18 services. If I am Arato, I am satisfied with that. I mean, what else do we need anyway? |
AbyhapeSep 30, 2018 11:20 AM
| I'll give this a generous 7 just because I really liked that they rewrote the ending into a happy one instead of the depressing novel one. At least it was worth the wait this way. I think the concepts were interesting and thought provoking but the presentation was so dry it was really hard to properly process and stomach, I guess that's why most people thought it was extremely boring. |
MomoSinX said: I'll give this a generous 7 just because I really liked that they rewrote the ending into a happy one instead of the depressing novel one. At least it was worth the wait this way. I think the concepts were interesting and thought provoking but the presentation was so dry it was really hard to properly process and stomach, I guess that's why most people thought it was extremely boring. They would have to had some huge balls to deliver us a bad ending after all the bs. |
| I don't mind the happy end at all, even if it was random. Show was ok overall (4-5), but also a bit of a pain to get through. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| There is a good story in here somewhere. The script and storytelling was very heavy handed which made it borderline unwatchable at times. Throw in buzz words like Memeframe and analogue hacking and it all just collapses into a confusing mess. I actually think the story should have been simplified for the anime there was far too much technobable and exposition. At least they managed to wrap things up but it would have been nice for a longer epilogue. Beatless is not without merit but it could have been much better. 5/10 for the series as a whole. |
| I think there are some good ideas in this series, but I did feel like they could've cut out a lot of the junk and focused on exploring the main theme a bit more. I do think the main theme is worth exploring, by the way--because these topics will very likely come up within our lifetimes. It's a real shame that the series got good when Lacia decided to go all out against the world, but the fun only lasted so long. The ending was nice though. I always thought, even if poorly contrived, the couple was endearing, so I'm happy that they ended up together after all. |
| boredom over 9000 completely forgettable show. =/ |
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| Lacia get shutdown.... |
| Lacia said "Lacia class does not have backup capability". After that we saw Lacia revived again and shed tears, so Lacia can become a human by shutting down Higgins? Now we know the real reason why they want to shutdown Higgins! Another weird thing is when they stopped the update to immobilize the robots, Eliza stood up few metres from her seat even though she's supposed to be sitting down. Higgins fooled Lacia to activate Eliza so he can escape to Eliza's body. Even the author got outsmarted by Higgins! The author thought Higgins was gone but in reality he just moved to Eliza! Recap, The Animation. The most recap in 2 cours anime I've ever watched. ---- Jokes aside, overall this is the worst anime I watched about AI. Very little explanations about many things. There're other things that were not explained, I just wrote down what I remembered. We also did not get explanation if Kengo was Olga's step brother or not even though it's been hinted multiple times. If you like this anime or have interest about AI, I recommend you to watch Plastic Memories or Time of Eve. Even though they have much shorter airing duration, they're much more better than this anime. |
LeonLanfordNov 19, 2018 7:02 AM
LTU_EiMs said: LeonLanford said: Why give really strong battle power to the Lacia class while their main function is to retain data inside them? If their main purpose is to retain data why there's no backup function in Lacia class? Seems contradictive? Why Methode was allowed to have multiple owners? For what purpose? How many owner is the limit? Everyone in Earth can become her owner? Why Snowdrop was able to absorb the robots? Was it special only to her? For what purpose? Snowdrop seemed to want to absorb Methode and Higgins, so she can absorb everything as long as it's mechanical? Maybe not all questions were answered but what did you mention was answered or at least you can thing out . 1.a Probably so they can protect that data if you up-loud to regular HIE they won't able to protect data. 1.b It wasn't explain but it is already the copy of date so... of course it could be because of security protocol so no one could copy it. 2.a It was said all Lacia class units can have multiple owners. 2.b other units just don't use it but because Methode purpose was use that people use tools more efficiently it used it for its advantage by finding best owner which give most freedom for her. 2.b as I know no. 2.c yes if it wants. 3.a its tool let Snowdrop absorb other robots. 3.b as I said nothing special but her tool let her use absorb robots. 3.b Snowdrop do that because it need petals in order to control robots and other electronic so by absorbing electronic it made those petals. 3.c more likely anything who has electronic. So I don't know how do you watch it but you need to read everything more carefully of course not everyone likes analyzing anime bit by bit like I do. 1a. It makes no sense, they're not fighting armies here. All the battles in the anime are conducted between the Lacia class themselves. 1b. It's not explained so you can't just make explanation out of nowhere. 2a. Do you have any source? All I remember is Methode was special, no other robots or even Lacia class can have multiple owners. This was explained by Methode herself when she was negotiating with Shiori (source: episode 7). 2b-2c. Do you have any source? It's not explained so you can't just make explanation out of nowhere. 3a-3b. I asked why, there's no explanation why she's special. Also read 1a, why she need that ability. 3c. I didn't ask about this, seems misplaced post? 3d. Do you have any source? I would appreciate if you cite any source when making claim like my answer in point 2a. I've read your posts above with @SNDT acting like you know what the author was thinking. |
LTU_EiMs said: LeonLanford said: 1a. It makes no sense, they're not fighting armies here. All the battles in the anime are conducted between the Lacia class themselves. 1b. It's not explained so you can't just make explanation out of nowhere. 2a. Do you have any source? All I remember is Methode was special, no other robots or even Lacia class can have multiple owners. This was explained by Methode herself when she was negotiating with Shiori (source: episode 7). 2b-2c. Do you have any source? It's not explained so you can't just make explanation out of nowhere. 3a-3b. I asked why, there's no explanation why she's special. Also read 1a, why she need that ability. 3c. I didn't ask about this, seems misplaced post? 3d. Do you have any source? I would appreciate if you cite any source when making claim like my answer in point 2a. I've read your posts above with @SNDT acting like you know what the author was thinking. I can but I don't have time to go through all anime and make screenshots just to answer your questions so if you want you can believe or not. Simply stating the episode or when the statement occured is enough(see my point 2a), as it seems you're a big fan of this anime that would be not hard for you. |
SNDT said: LTU_EiMs said: I'm 99% sure she was referring to the HiE portion of her and not the Black Monolith. There were tons of situations where Lacia could have simply told Arato something yet didn't. And where do you get that stupid idea that BM has back up for Hinggins. Alright, dude, I got it. You don't like GC ending. You watched this shit for romatic relationship beetwin MC and robowifu. Maybe because of your abnormal emotional investment you are trying to come up with any ludicrous argument. Unfortunately all your "arguments" are baseless assumptions and asspull excuses. "technically it could", "I think", "maybe she wanted to surprise him" and the best one "I'm 99% sure". Why not 99.9%? xD "At this point just author knows a true." Yes, author knows the truth and the truth is "When they lose power, they cannot save any data. I do not have the memory region to backup the data". That's a fact that was told by Lacia herself and it was the same in the light novel. She lost power and her personality and memories are gone. Judging by your aggressive replies you care about this far more than he does |
| The show really truly live ups to it's niche by being contradicting till the very end |
| "Rating are for Casul" "While masterpiece are for Pleb" "But shit taste is enlightenment" "Go watch School Days you Weebs" |
| So Lacia is alive! nice show I guess, glad to have it all finished. |
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