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Club Relaunch

Hi, I'm a new admin for this club. I don't have any great ambitions for it, but sometimes I need a place to ramble or gush about anime music, and I'm not the only one. Listeners, welcome.

This group's original name was "Anime Original Soundtrack (OST) Club!" I decided to rename it for various reasons:

First and foremost, the term "original" technically excludes use of preexisting music (see 2001: A Space Odyssey), even if it's re-recorded for the anime. For example, Last.fm user chameleon_girl commented on Nodame Orchestra, which was formed for the anime Nodame Cantabile: "Their version of Rachmaninov's 2nd [concerto] is the best interpetation of Rachmaninov ever. Amazing piano." But that was not "original soundtrack." And then there are song covers - Natsu Matsuri by Whiteberry was covered by Nao Touyama for this rendition heard in Tsukigakirei. Not "original," but absolutely worth talking about.

Second, I figure there are a lot of clubs with names begining with "Anime" and/or ending with "Club." "Anime" is sort of assumed by default on this site - and why not also talk about soundtracks from video games, visual novels, live action TV and movies, etc.? Many of those share composers with anime, and in some cases compositions (Key, Advent Children). "Conservatory" is just for fun. It's pretty silly considering I have no music education and can't play any instruments, except for being able to bang out the intro to Nightwish's Nemo on piano. Priorities, you know. I liked the sound of "The Soundtrack Conservatory," so I went with it. I'm not "The Music Man" selling services here.

You are welcome to start composer threads for your favorite composers. I will make a banner image (you can specify a picture if you want) and add it to your post.

Here's an unused banner for Michiru Oshima: https://i.imgur.com/q0NuYyN.jpg I wanted to create a thread, but I'm too unfamiliar with most of her work. I could put together a collection of interviews like with Kenji Kawai, when I have time.

Full size main page collage: https://imgur.com/a/8HkdTHZ
(Yeah I know just using a few characters would look better, but I get tired of having to make things look neat and professional all the time, so I took this as an opportunity to have some fun)

Introductions?

I don't know whether it's worth having an introductions thread since it's likely the main group page comment box will be used instead by most, but here we go anyway. The problem with comment boxes is they're so impermanent. At least club comments

About me: calling myself a "lifelong fan of soundtracks" wouldn't mean much, and I'm not the most dedicated hobbyist as a listener, but I can share some specifics. My first CD was a collection of John Williams' music from Star Wars and Close Encounters of the Third Kind... which I dubbed to an audio cassette tape and listened to endlessly in that format. (I remain sort of an anti-audiophile to this day, though at the rate I've been going I may at last become one by the time I'm in my 50's or 60's.) For my high school graduation present in 2004, I asked to see Howard Shore conduct The Lord of the Rings Symphony. It was unforgettable. 1/3 of my 50 top played artists since 2006 are soundtrack composers. https://www.last.fm/user/nDroae/library/artists

I'm not "the biggest fan" of anything. I think I'm fairly average among fans of anime soundtracks - I like the popular current composers, and I'm not concerned about having "correct" taste. I like a lot of music much more than it reputedly deserves, or much less. I didn't start seriously exploring anime until 2015, so there's plenty of good stuff I haven't heard yet.

A couple of questions for everyone, no big deal if you can't remember:

What was your first favorite piece of anime music?

Mine was the instrumental OP of the original Tenchi Muyo OVA, 天地無用!魎皇鬼のテーマ / Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki's Theme, by Seikou Nagaoka.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8SiM2vuNcE
However, there's a complication: to me, that track was the ending credits music of my actual first anime, Tenchi Universe (a TV reboot of the original OVA). Toonami made that switch, and I'm glad they did; it remains one of my all time favorite pieces of anime music. I would like to confirm whether Toonami also used it as the credits music for the original OVA and/or Tenchi in Tokyo.
Seikou Nagaoka also scored Tenchi Universe (along with the legendary Ko Otani), and the classic 1995 isekai El Hazard, which I need to see.

What was your first favorite anime song?

Also from Tenchi Universe: 恋愛の時空 / Dimension of Love (Tenchi Universe insert)
English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdZ_QveGaTU
Japanese: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwyBm7iRQ1g
Tenchi Muyo was a bit much for me as a sheltered 12-year-old, and these lyrics, oh my. :D But it was the music that captivated me most. I'd never heard anything like it before.

Note, this isn't about bragging about being an OG otaku or whatever; rather, it's about your story. If you got into anime music very recently, but are already eager to explore beyond what's popular right now, that's great. In my own case, over 90% of the anime I've seen I watched from 2015 onward; the same goes for my experience and awareness of anime music. And there's still so much I haven't heard.
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Sep 28, 2018 5:46 PM
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Thank you for reviving the club (which I didn't remember but I'm glad I'm in lol).

What was your first favorite piece of anime music?
I'm pretty sure it was one of the Pokémon Anime Soundtrack, like 100% sure. But I don't exactly remember which one was the first one. It might be one of these three: Route 3 ~The Road to Cerulean From Mt. Moon~ , I Got a Victory Badge, A Meeting and Parting. When I listened the soundtrack as a yung adult, I couldn't understand how did I ignore such masterpieces when I used to watch the show as a child. This soundtrack is one of the reasons why I fell in love with background music, and why I decided to study music composition.

What was your first favorite anime song?
First Kiss from Zero no Tsukaima. Zero no Tsukaima was the first anime I watched while actually knowing what anime was. I loved the anime and the OP as well.
Sep 28, 2018 9:13 PM
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Thank you for not leaving during the years it was dead! :D

Hmm, I'm trying to think whether there's any great BGM I didn't take notice of until adulthood. I can't think of any - James and the Giant Peach, Angels in the Outfield, the Saint-Saëns-based Babe (all CDs I bought later), every classic Disney movie, that wonderful corruption of Tchaikovsky in Sleeping Beauty... but I'm kind of envious, it would be cool to make a discovery like that. I can say that the late James Horner's score to The Land Before Time is even more wonderful now than it was in childhood.

But I did miss out on Pokemon entirely. Good stuff, I especially like the second one.
Nov 30, 2018 5:29 PM
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Hello everybody, just found this club and thought that it might be a good idea to join; following many composers and keeping myself up to date with most of the music of every new anime season might be an indication of me caring about soundtrack music I guess :D.

About the questions above... I honestly don't know the answers, and my music tastes have changed so much over the years that I don't even have a clue of where to begin. At the very least I'll say that orchestral/symphonic scores are my primary interest at this point in time, and luckily that Japan is both home to an almost incredible amount of talented composers within that "genre" (and some others), and probably the best place in the world for them to exploit their talents in media music. I might volunteer to write that Oshima post someday if I have the time

That said, I hope this club gets more active (and crowded) in the future. Nice to meet you.
Nov 30, 2018 7:00 PM
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@velego Welcome! This month you and Withoutaname were the first people I didn't already know on MAL who've posted here since the reopening - I'm glad the club's long winter is starting to thaw, as it were. :D

I'd like to see a decent number of members not necessarily visiting constantly, but checking in once or twice a season. To me, the main potential value of the group would be cooperative sharing of good music, because there's so much of it (and so much anime in general) and it's easy to miss good stuff. :) From a decade active on Lastfm I know, even when people have wildly different taste, they can still gain from listening to each other's music.

I'll add a note that the questions aren't really important - I just think the starting point is interesting, if it can be remembered. Many people might not remember their actual first favorite, but even then, what they do remember is significant.
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Hi, I've just found this group while looking for clubs related to anime and manga I like (Haibane Renmei in this case). I really like anime soundtracks and music discussion in general, so I've been looking for something like this. Regarding the questions, as far as I remember, the DBZ soundtrack was the first one I injoyed, with pieces such the "scenes from next episode" theme from the Buu saga. My tastes are varied, in general I prefer well crafted instrumental music, but I enjoy any catchy and expressive music. I hope that my limited english is not bother, I'll surely make some mistakes and odd expressions (I'm from Argentina).
Dec 3, 2018 6:10 PM
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@Pyschoneurosis Glad you found the club :) Adding Haibane Renmei to the group connections was one of the first changes I made. Honestly I didn't really expect the new connections would bring anyone in - it was more about listing great OSTs - but I'm glad I was wrong. :D Brief comments in the thread about its composer, Kô Ôtani: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1744263

Your English is fine! Hey, I love the way argentinos/Argentines sometimes sing along football-stadium-style to parts of songs that originally had no vocals, apparently of their own volition. Maybe that's a Latin American live concert thing in general? The two examples I know are from Argentina. Here's the crowd singing "hey ah hey" to the opening guitar riff of Megadeth's "Symphony of Destruction" on the "That One Night: Live in Buenos Aires" DVD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AJYusGcF5M

And here, the crowd in Rosario singing to the opening riff of Tarja's "Until My Last Breath" on the Act 1 DVD/BD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmW7KV6YdkM

I wish that would catch on worldwide. It would make live recordings more worth listening to (or less in some cases, but it'd be a net value gain for me). :D

I watched a little DBZ (Cell saga) in 2000, and only just learned last month that the American releases had new score composed for them. I expect you got the original Japanese music there. In retrospect, I'm glad the (very Japanese) Tenchi Muyo soundtrack made it onto TV here intact. I'm interested to hear both versions of the DBZ score, but I probably won't (at long last) get back to the show until 2020 :) I want to start over from Dragon Ball and take the time to watch it all.
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Thanks! Singing in the stadium is classic of the argetinian football culture, there is all a repertoire of songs, some general and others from specific teams, they're sometimes pretty funny; so sometimes the practice extends to concerts of bands who the usual football "hincha" likes. I didn't know that they composed a whole new ost, I was only aware of those weird openings with scenes from the series, that used to happen in Europe too. In Latin America, dubbing usually kept the original openings, making nice spanish versions of the songs (I guess that in brazil is the same). A great example: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oRQOp9ue3Dw I haven't watched dragon ball neither, just some random episodes in TV (I'm just 18 so I haven't lived the "golden age" of tv anime), but i've read the manga, it was my first one actually. Unrelated story: The ivrea argentina edition is legendary for its almost exaggerated use of Argentine expressions, as loved as hated because basically every translation here is in the so called neutral spanish, basically mexican spanish without regionalisms, in order to export the product to all spanish-speaking America (just imagine a neutral english...).
 
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Very cool. I should look up more concert recordings from there. :)

I remember hearing the infamous "Rock the Dragon" on TV (honestly it's pretty great ;D) and Toonami were in the habit of not using OPs at all; they'd make a 30-second clip show with dialog lines over a music bed, examples:

DBZ with a nice hip hop beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDUcrOA3GDU
Sailor Moon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrorwLB11cg
Tenchi Universe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw9SsJnal3Q

But I first learned about the re-scoring of DBZ last month: https://kotaku.com/dragon-ball-z-composer-elected-to-texas-state-senate-1830294334

Funimation's composers:
https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Bruce_Faulconer
https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Nathan_Johnson

I've considered reading the manga instead. Guess I'll make a final decision after I start watching the show. :D

I guess translations are inevitably controversial everywhere. I vaguely remember talk on the Super Best Friendcast about being confused or misled by the the French version of the Dragon Ball manga.

Pretty bad: https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/5d798b/i_give_you_the_french_opening_of_dragon_ball_z/

Amazing Finnish dub: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1743251#msg55862064
By this company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agapio_Racing_Team
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I've just learned and seen some pure gold. Best senator by far, competes with Arnold as governor.
I haven't see the anime so I wouldn't know what to say, maybe you can read the first 18 volumes of the manga (my favorites by far, probably the summit of the shonen of adventures and humor) and then see DBZ, specially the Buu saga. It's a perfect example of the 90's anime style, totally lost in the bright colors of Dragon Ball Super.
The legendary Saint Seiya opening from Spain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=009GRHKykUk
I think it comes from the french or italian version, also I heard that it appeared in latin america some time.

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