So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)
Awful CGI desu ga, Nani ka? Truly disappointed. RIP great isekai novel At least I’m glad they stick with the light novel character design |
XenocrisiAug 11, 2018 8:07 AM
| maybe it will be possible to look past the bad cgi and truly appreciate the story of "Dark Souls; Kawaii Spider Edition" |
| Her design as a spider looks kind of strange and that cg dragon was something to behold. I'll still give it a go though, hopefully it'll be a fun watch If i don't like it i always have the isekai anime about a slime instead. I hope these two won't be completely generic isekai anime apart from the main characters not being human. I won't hold my breath though~ |
projedenpost said: Yeah, after few replays I thing - it can be good, some moments are just not that appealing, some are. Looking from the animation and the CGi my guess is that the studio behind this is Silver Link and let’s be honest generally not even their hand-drawn animation is of good quality The only appealing thing will probably just be Kumoko’s personality |
Xenocrisi said: Looking from the animation and the CGi my guess is that the studio behind this is Silver Link and let’s be honest generally not even their hand-drawn animation is of good quality.  This looks good it's not the panacea or Kyoani levels but it's ok |
| Seems like our only saving grace is them possibly rushing the entire beginning, which probably won't make the fans happy but I doubt they'd be happy to see such atrocious cgi for an entire cour. At least they aren't doing it with the humans. |
| well at least the CGI is not robot like, i can stand smooth CGI like this one, unlike anime like ajin, and berserk, really make me sick watching whole season. At least they got decent story so i dare to keep watching it. But this kumo desu ga, looks kinda interesting. even tho it looks like smooth CGI unlike overlord CGI which looks like smooth CGI but still looks robot like, which kinda shit. This one at least looks promising with more lively move with CGI. We know that lately the industries try to emerge CGI and drawing to be one, so i thought if CGI what the industries want is to be like this, i can deal it. I hope its not ugly CGI like ajin that they approve. (apart from what should the character in the anime should looks like *like in the manga not the LN* ) I would gladly watch this show. |
| this is pretty good, not gonna lie. my frame of reference are Berserk 2016/2017, so this CG is pretty damn good, at least they make it look smooth enough. even though it will be shit, i still gonna watch it anyway |
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| They should of really just took the novel illustrations and made them into what it is. Instead we got CGI crap with robotic-like character movements. Expectations definitely lowered for this. At least I hope they adapt her character right. |
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| If the cg is not at the berserk's level, I don't mind. I just hope that the story presentation is good enough. |
| People say that you have to solve your problem instead of running away from it, but isn't trying to solve the problem also means that you wanted to run away from the problem? |
| Honestly it doesn't look so bad to me. At least the animation is fluid (unlike anime from Polygon Pictures), and i can see the point of using CGI for spider. I can also understand why it is disappointing for manga/ln readers but well... time/money/human resources, what can you do |
linkhuesitos said: Gaerled said: I can also understand why it is disappointing for manga/ln readers It's funny that most of the complaints come from manga readers meanwhile most LN readers have high expectations. The CG looks ok for the most part except for Alaba and the hand made draw looks good on humans (for Kumo I still need to see more to make an opinion). I’m a LN reader first, and still kind of disappointed. I’m hyped, yet disappointed |
| It doesn't matter what your source is, bad CG is a bane for any story. It just ruins the experience and cheapens the experience, especially when it doesn't have to be super HQ. All that it needs to do is not look shabby and cheap. That CG looks shabby and cheap. |
Gaerled said: I can also understand why it is disappointing for manga/ln readers but well... time/money/human resources, what can you do At this point they can't afford to change it, sure, but cg doesn't really save that much at all. Regular 2D animation is all computer assisted these days, if not entirely digital, and cg requires a lot of effort into model building, and have to be animated like a stop motion figure. In addition to rendering times and fixing bugs, I don't see how they'd save much time, and seeing as all the people are 2D means they must be employing two whole different teams for the different parts (it's gonna look even worse when those elements come together). So they're definitely not cutting manpower unless those teams are entirely understaffed, and I can't imagine how they're saving money either. |
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| Its still super early right? Is it possible that this preview is not the final product? Maybe the CGI will look better when its out. |
| It's fine. Everyone makes mistakes. You just need to make an effort not to make the same mistake again. |
| honestly cgi reminds me a bit of land of lustrous so i am more in the hopeful camp then the skeptical one also i should point out that if they use the 3d CG in the dungeon parts only. since i noticed the lizard is not 3d cgi then maybe its done thematic wise. (also i don't expect the spider protagonist to stay 3d cgi |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
Vivan_Vex said: My god the amount of snobs complaining about CGI with only 1 real bad asset is just nonsense. The LN design of Kumo is perfectly fine, it's a fucking anime. Shits not going to be realistic in terms of design. Get over it. The animation is smooth as hell too so the people saying it's robotic don't know what they're talking about. Basically just shut up and enjoy the good story that's to come. Some people actually have some standards you know? |
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| ah cgi my old enemy, how much more must you destroy before you are satisfied. |
AraragiJan 26, 2019 9:40 PM
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Vivan_Vex said: My god the amount of snobs complaining about CGI with only 1 real bad asset is just nonsense. The LN design of Kumo is perfectly fine, it's a fucking anime. Shits not going to be realistic in terms of design. Get over it. The animation is smooth as hell too so the people saying it's robotic don't know what they're talking about. Basically just shut up and enjoy the good story that's to come. I understand this point and what you're saying is true but the only series I've seen done well that is mainly cgi is Houseki no Kuni so you can't exactly blame most people for their complaints. We'll just have to wait and see. |
AraragiJan 26, 2019 9:57 PM
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alpha_shadow said: Some people actually have some standards you know? Sorry but all the "Standards" they may have went to the trash the moment they said that the manga "artstyle" was better than the novel It's funny how on the moment Kumo does things that aren't cute (last chapter) all manga readers have a mental breakdown because they're addict to Kumo's cute imagination, meanwhile novel readers know since pretty much the beggining that Kumo is a Sociopath. Even the anime managed to make things better with just the PV |
| Damn... that was a pretty weak PV. I'll play it safe and see the show's reception when it comes out before giving it a try. |
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linkhuesitos said: Yeah, better use the designs where Kumo is the only good looking character. Meanwhile every other design done by the mangaka goes from bad to thrash. http://imgur.com/CXuhlvV http://imgur.com/DwmV3Px http://imgur.com/fISU2oM Buldron said: They should have used the manga design as it was actually cute She was never intended to look/be cute on the source material, and that appearance isn't going to mean nothing when later on the story she starts to do horrible things. Im going to guess that stuff in thr spoiler was from the web novels because the current light novels are not fan translated. And the official translation are only up to volume 4 i And just a friendly reminder that the web novels and LN can end up vastily different |
GrimAtramentFeb 25, 2019 7:56 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| Just saw the preview (YouTube recommendations are weird) Curious how this anime will do it's own thing compared to the recent "monster-isekai" hit of "That Time I got Reincarnated as a Slime" I'm definitely interested, since I heard Tanya's voice in Slime Isekai 2.0 |
| im kinda excited for this since im assuming pre production started quite some time ago, maybe we will even get 24 episodes like shield hero and slime |
| Hell yeah, would watch this just for Aoi Yuuki alone. But hope that earth dragon gets fixed, now he just looks dumb. |
| Finally !! yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| What the fuck Tensei Slime did much better I don’t want to deal with a ‘Yoshi with Downs Syndrome’ looking ass spider throughout this anime. CG needs work too. Kinda like soldiers moving like dolls in Overlord. |
| the cgi is so bad, so sad, lets face it. the cgi is gonna ruin it for alot of newcomers i mean judging by the comments, of people who haven't read/novel/manga u can already say so to a certain degree linkhuesitos said: Damm son ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉)( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ ) linkhuesitos said: Yeah, better use the designs where Kumo is the only good looking character. Meanwhile every other design done by the mangaka goes from bad to thrash Sorry but all the "Standards" they may have went to the trash the moment they said that the manga "artstyle" was better than the novel Ooof i was so disappointed, i liked the spider design so i wasn't expecting THAT i was like ok ok its cute alright, then when i saw the others i was like wtf Loli-Defender said: wat r u talking about? ajin's cgi was great the character models included Ajin type of Level it wasn't some dragon slayering, for watever it is it was doing it did fine the cgi that is coolxal said: the human arc will take awhile to reach,say maybe even 5+ episodes? if they decide to adapt it faithfully that is. i mean they can just rush it too so then 3episodes?Hopefully they'll get to the human arc after this CGI crap is done. Shiraori is too good to not be animated. sam9502 said: Its still super early right? Is it possible that this preview is not the final product? Maybe the CGI will look better when its out. the chances of that r pretty low |
TheDiabolicEsperJun 28, 2019 1:25 AM
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| one quick comment after reading these posts. do you guys know the DIFFERENCE between a LightNovel illustration and a manga illustration? LIGHT NOVEL images are often drawn as a ONE OFF piece. basically: the artist gets told what's needed wanted bla bla bla, then the artist sits down and does some roughs, emails those roughs to the LN editorial staff and the author, those folks go yeah that's cool or change this that and the other thing and emails the artist back, the artist does some changes and another email chain happens, once the 'big picture' of the image is set up the artist does the work and back to the editors and author. on average how many images per Volume does a LN artist have to do? 12? 7-10 inside the book and maybe 2 Volume covers front/back or maybe just one bigger image if the 2 covers have one spread out image for each Volume? MANGA is done periodically, repeatedly, weeks, months and once in a blue moon for YEARS at a time. manga art is simplistic, minimalistic, and generalized as much as possible. could you imagine trying to do something like the quality of a fantasy novel cover from like Michael Whelan, Mark Fredrickson, or Chris McGrath for panel after panel after panel of manga? of COURSE the LN art is going to be of a higher quality and more detailed than the manga art. ANIME character design and art direction )both primary art and secondary art( is going to have to be, once again, repeatable and stylistically manageable. THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of frames will have to be created, even using computer aided drawing techniques, for the 'hand drawn style' scenes in anime. get ahold of the 'Darling in the FRANXX' DVD/BR sets, I forget if it's in Part1 or 2 and watch the Extras. using time lapse photography that Extra shows the ArtDirector sitting down and spending almost 2 HOURS! [I think] editing by hand, with pencil paper and eraser, TEN frames of animation for one character's facial expression. |
KiliianSleipnirJul 6, 2019 6:37 PM
| just an ol school otaku enjoyin the life. don't sass me kiddies, i've been otaku probably since before you were born. leave me in peace and i won't bother you either. |
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