| The anime industry has been struggling for a while now (although I'm sure that all of you already know that) mainly due to piracy, underpaid employees and not enough sales. So how much longer do you think they'll last. Or do you think that they can change some things like paying their employees more to make the job more desirable? Aggressively crack down on piracy in Japan. Maybe giving their scriptwriters more creative freedom? Of course, I could be wrong though. |
MauricOct 19, 2017 8:00 AM
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| I mean 2 of those are false, the anime industry as a whole has seen broad success as a result of international licensing being on the rise. Seeing double digit revenue increases in recent years and if they expand on that they'll likely have a pretty solid base (which they are). The only aspect which is accurate is the underpaid employees which depends on how many people choose to pursue a career in say animation. If the number is dropping at a dramatic rate there are 2 things that can happen, they are either going to increase outsourcing or they'll change the business model to better benefit workers and increase incentive. But neither of these things will be preceded by an industry wide collapse. What will likely happen is larger studios who are at fault for underpaying animators will likely increase outsourcing because they have the funds and resources to do so. Smaller studios will likely go the route of increasing incentives for workers in order to stay competitive. The part about scriptwriters is a pretty rough double edged sword because most of the process is vetted by a production committee and should they issue too much freedom only to result in a bad product it would have much broader damage for a studio in gaining funding. Which considering they're often just contractors can pretty much collapse their entire business if they happen to have a few really bad products and are unable to work out a gem to make up the loss. |
GamerDLMOct 19, 2017 7:39 AM
| Not sure. I'm kind of surprised the anime industry is still pumping out 30-ish shows a season. Especially since they get paid crap. They obviously don't do it for the money. |
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| >The anime industry has been struggling for a while now (although I'm sure that all of you already know that) false http://aja.gr.jp/english/japan-anime-data > mainly due to piracy, arguable http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/digital-piracy-not-harming-entertainment-industries-study-1.1894729 > underpaid employees it's as early as anime it self being made... tezuka notoriously has harsh attitude towards his workerers and even want to press the cost as low as possible... to eliminate competition... > not enough sales. physical sales is low, but digital sales is on the rise, just like evryone else... note manga industry for more noticable result... http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-18/japan-manga-market-grows-0.4-percent-in-2016-digital-sees-27.5-percent-increase/.113129 also BD/DVD is overpriced... no one buy them exept hardcore fans... __________________________________ as long the big demand is still there, it's not gonna dying anytime soon.... |
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| It will still last for a long time. I dont see it dying. Quality posts in mal died a long time ago though. |
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| It will last forever. Are ya joking ? Japan built akihabara (the heaven of anime) which dominates a big part of tokyo and you want the anime industry to stop .. it is completely impossible .. |
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| Probably as long as humanity has enough resources to keep it working |
| Less than 10 years, Hideaki Anno the god and savior called it. |
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| It'll last as long as the world itself, I guess? For another 33 years, that is. |
| "The anime industry has been struggling for a while now" And that's where you lost me. |
| hi, excuse me, um yes, where did u get your facts fr0m |
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| As far as I know, there's still a lot of isekai to be made in anime adaptation so it's still early for it to go down fam. |
| it'll last forever, hopefully with fewer studios |
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| The anime industry is anything but failing... It's the smaller studios who struggle to make big hits and not accepting help from foreign sources that are failing... Anime is going mainstream and profits for good studios are going up steadily... With the involvement of big companies like Amazon and Netflix, many studios are gaining headway and resources thus boosting quality and profit... Some studios are not getting on the band wagon thus they are suffering loses unless they bring something good to the table... It's clearing out the men from the boys and as time marches forward it's obvious who's gonna make the cut or not... |
| When our lord and savior Hayao Miyazaki passes on, that is when Anime will be done forever. |
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| I fail to see how the anime industry is dying when Netflix invests in it, Crunchyroll subscriptions multiply every year, Kissanime being one of the most visited sites in the world, in fact, anime is bigger than it ever was so it'll probably last until the potential heat death of the Earth. |
Kuma said: >The anime industry has been struggling for a while now (although I'm sure that all of you already know that) false http://aja.gr.jp/english/japan-anime-data yep just read that yearly report of the anime industry (im waiting for this years report) the anime industry reported that its profits are getting high just because of legal streaming rights sales and merchandise sales so low discs sales of BD and DVD are not a doomsday factor |
Pyxus said: anime will be made even after the world endsI fail to see how the anime industry is dying when Netflix invests in it, Crunchyroll subscriptions multiply every year, Kissanime being one of the most visited sites in the world, in fact, anime is bigger than it ever was so it'll probably last until the potential heat death of the Earth. |
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| I want them to last at least until I die . XDD |
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isekai said: Kuma said: >The anime industry has been struggling for a while now (although I'm sure that all of you already know that) false http://aja.gr.jp/english/japan-anime-data yep just read that yearly report of the anime industry (im waiting for this years report) the anime industry reported that its profits are getting high just because of legal streaming rights sales and merchandise sales so low discs sales of BD and DVD are not a doomsday factor same thing happened with west entertainment industries earliest than japan... does that mean they are dying? not really... yeah, i also waiting for this year report (which probably next year march as usual)... |
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Kuma said: >The anime industry has been struggling for a while now (although I'm sure that all of you already know that) false http://aja.gr.jp/english/japan-anime-data > mainly due to piracy, arguable http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/digital-piracy-not-harming-entertainment-industries-study-1.1894729 > underpaid employees it's as early as anime it self being made... tezuka notoriously has harsh attitude towards his workerers and even want to press the cost as low as possible... to eliminate competition... > not enough sales. physical sales is low, but digital sales is on the rise, just like evryone else... note manga industry for more noticable result... http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-18/japan-manga-market-grows-0.4-percent-in-2016-digital-sees-27.5-percent-increase/.113129 also BD/DVD is overpriced... no one buy them exept hardcore fans... __________________________________ as long the big demand is still there, it's not gonna dying anytime soon.... Finally someone with sense. Tbh judging specific producer that will never go with financial crisis the anime will stay the same. The verge of dying prob pumping out less than 15 to 10 even lesser anime each season and the hired studio would be the A tier. Obviously the unfamous tittle that lacks fund from known or big producer will dwindle and prob drop dead unless they somehow can manage to keep up against the competition. So As long theres Producer that willing to fund a studio Anime wont die, but either niche tittle will keep coming out or more half assed quality. The known studio will likely only advertise or do a sequel for most of the anime. The studio will likely merge with another studio when its on the verges of dying, it'll keep repeating until they somehow disband. As a watchers theres really nothing you can do other than supporting via legal sites streaming or merchandise buying, but that barely helps the studio to face financial issues. What i can recommend are watch the original anime or seek for complete adaptation. Seasonal might be interesting but be ready to eat whatever they gave to you with bad quality adaptation, advertising, or forever cliffhanger. You cant really complain if theres no sequel for you beloved anime. Either wait for the impossible thing to happen or ask spoiler/read the soure material. Likewise the industry design itself is the problem. Theres barely any communication between the people with important roles especially the customer (us) and the studio + producer. |
| Lol you sound like the industry is dying. It'll live on whether you like it or not |
| I actually think that the industry has been struggling, but in regards to finding a gem, as there are few here and there littered around in every season of anime. This year alone had quite the few gems that stood out and really took the narration in anime to a whole new level. While there are underpaid animators, staff and the entire crew working behind these digital animations, there exist the same in every other field as well, and looking at that as a factor that the anime industry will collapse, even if the consequence of underpaid animators shows, is a far fetched story. With there being an expansion in goods, where now japan is exporting hundreds of thousands of figures, posters and all sorts of other goods, it's generally being a replacement for the sales of the actual show it self, and with that said, the ever increasing online audience is leaning towards having some revenue donated to the anime industry. And since this is an effort that's being internationalised, even if the community is small, the revenue donated will be big. But the only problem I see is to make sure to find a gem to sell. A few studios succeed. A few do not. It's the same problem that the game industry faces. Only on a slightly smaller scale. With that said, I don't think it's going to collapse anytime soon, with what the ever increasing rate at which anime is being produced. With a solid 30+ anime every season and a bunch of OVA and Movies coming out. Japan may be interested in the sales that it generated in the country itself, but if they ever decide to include the sales they make in all countries that anime reaches to, we might see a spike in the studios. |
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| It won't die. I think this point has been driven pretty well by all the posts above. That said, the industry likely won't be taking off as it should because they suck at getting their content to people that want it. |
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| Maybe if studios focus on one really good show that sells well instead of mediocre garbage that no one desires to buy then the industry quality wouldn't be deteriorating as we speak. But in that regards, it won't perish, the system needs new managment and a ways of running and as older people die off who have kept these standards alive leave, the new blood of the new generation will hopefully change shit for the better. |
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| Yeah it's definitely struggling in terms of what employees are getting paid and also the quality is deteriorating but one thing is for sure the industry ain't gonna die anytime soon. |
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| Considering that the fanbase is huge and international, I doubt it's going anywhere. |
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| ~15 years unless there is a significant change in treatment of the workers. Even then, it likely won't collapse, workforce will just get outsourced to other countries. |
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romagia said: Maybe in the new world incest wont be frowned upon.Pyxus said: anime will be made even after the world endsI fail to see how the anime industry is dying when Netflix invests in it, Crunchyroll subscriptions multiply every year, Kissanime being one of the most visited sites in the world, in fact, anime is bigger than it ever was so it'll probably last until the potential heat death of the Earth. |
Mauric said: The anime industry has been struggling for a while now (although I'm sure that all of you already know that) mainly due to piracy, underpaid employees and not enough sales. So how much longer do you think they'll last. Or do you think that they can change some things like paying their employees more to make the job more desirable? Aggressively crack down on piracy in Japan. Maybe giving their scriptwriters more creative freedom? Of course, I could be wrong though. As it is cheaper to do animation than it is to higher real actors, movie sets and special effects it will last a long time. |
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