Maneki-Mew said: Ah, Mushishi! I've heard of that one and have heard it's good in a way that I might enjoy (something vaguely about emotional/atmospheric sense, I think it was).@GlennMagusHarvey The one besides LoGH is Mushishi and really great. :) And question about NGE: Should I watch the movie or series? That's the same storyline, right? As for NGE: The base TV series is 26 episodes long and is the core of the show. (I think episodes 21-24 were replaced with "director's cuts" but those are the same story as the original TV series.) The last two episodes, 25 and 26, are probably the most controversial and unusual episodes in the TV series. (I felt they made perfect sense, and I didn't know about the controversy before watching them; your mileage may vary.) I suggest watching the TV series. The movie Death/Rebirth is a recap of the TV series. The movie End of Evangelion is an alternate ending to the TV series, replacing(?) episodes 25-26. Or maybe in conjunction with. I don't think it's ever explained. It also generated some controversy if I recall correctly. There's also some other side material that introduces side characters not seen in the show, and/or has existing characters interacting in ways that contrast with canon as suggested by the TV show. And then there's a more recent series of movies, which are remakes of the entire story, or maybe sequels. These are the 1.0, 2.0, etc. movies. I think they're generally understood to be (de facto) remakes, but some fans claim to have found suggestions that they're actually sequels (in-universe). They introduce a new main character to join the original main cast of three. |
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JFuji said: Angel's egg <---#1 by far LOGH Texhnolyze Ergo Proxy Kino's Journey Monster NGE Akira Haibane Renmei Slam Dunk Mushishi Inferno Cop Katanagatari Ashita no Joe Serial Experiments Lain Ping Pong Tatami Galaxy NHK FLCL Kaiba Berserk There are some anime that people think are elitist but are often rejected by them: GTO Jojos Psycho Pass Bakemonogatari Trigun Black Lagoon FMA:B/Hunter X Hunter these aren't rejected by anyone lol |
GlennMagusHarvey said: Oh hey there's a thing for this hahahaha. LotGH - bunch of people praise it and if I ever watch it it'll be for the political drama. But I don't really have a reason to watch it and it having >100 episodes isn't helping. Don't recognize that one. Ping Pong - I've heard praise for it, but I'm unlikely to ever go and watch it myself because I'm not interested in the art style. Monster - don't know much about this. The Tatami Galaxy - mind screw is not my thing. Space Brothers - it's on my to-watch list. Don't recognize this one. GitS:SAC - i'll get around to this at some point. The Rose of Versailles - the art style isn't really my thing. Beck - this one's about a group of musicians, right? Maybe. Welcome to the NHK - I've heard that this show is basically sort of rather meta commentary, but that doesn't feel like a reason to watch it. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - I've heard about this for years, and the most recent multi-season TV series has been lauded and I've actually watched the first ep and it seemed well done. I had it on my On-Hold list for a while but then I took it off because I realized I'm rarely if ever going to pick it out myself, because I'm generally not into this kind of show. Berserk - okay, maybe this IS similar in some ways to JoJo, i.e. about a manly man doing manly things, but I do have a friend who's basically sold me on this enough for me to consider trying it out. I still haven't yet but the thought is there. Planetes - It's somewhere on my shortlist. is this Kaiji or Akagi? I can't tell but I'm still not digging the art style. I don't recognize this one. Black Lagoon - oft-recommended action series. I don't know much about it. Hajime no Ippo - a story about boxing. Doesn't really sell me on it alone. I don't recognize this. Kaiba? - All I know about this is that the art style is highly unusual. Utena - Not a fan of the art style. I recognize this but I forget its name. Terra e? - I think this may be on my radar, or maybe that's Terra Formars instead? Haibane Renmei - a friend of mine who is much more into stuff like "psychological"/darker series keeps recommending this to me, despite my telling him I'm not sure how much his taste matches mine (read: I don't think it does much at all). He says he's pretty sure I'll enjoy it. Hyouge Mono - never heard of this Ergo Proxy - I think I might have seen one ep of this. Sorta in the same mental bin as GitS. Don't recognize this. Texhnolyze - I don't know much about this. Cromartie High School - seen some of this and it is indeed funny, though like with JoJo, I'm unlikely to pick this up myself. Panda Bear Cafe - This is on my radar and actually something I might watch. Serial Experiments Lain - afaik this is mind screw, and also screwing with tropes. That friend who recs Haibane Renmei, this is a series he mentions frequently. Then again, the anime fandom as a whole mentions this frequently anyway. Paranoia Agent - I tried watching it twice but it never really piqued my interest so I dropped it. Master Keaton - I think this is on my radar and I have no objections to watching it but I just haven't picked it up yet. Don't recognize this. Nobunaga Concerto - Never heard of this. Except maybe just the name. Kuraokani said: Nah, it definitely does XD I've had like 2 people tell me that (since I didn't like NGE) that my taste was shit. I can do them one better. I like NGE, I dislike End of Evangelion, and I actually unironically appreciate the TV ending. thew tatami galaxy isn't a "mind screw" tbh. you can understand it without reading anything about it and it's one of the best and most creative short animes in history. i finished it a couple a days ago and fell in love with it. it's perfect in every way imo. |
| "Elitist anime" are usually considered just less popular but still decent, thought-provoking anime that rely on dialogue, character development and use of symbolism and metaphors. Most of the time they're psychological or dementia genre and you need to use your brain to understand what's happening on the screen, so it might not be fun to people who just want to unwind and watch fights, cute girls doing cute stuff etc - basically Serial Experiments Lain, LotGH, Monster, NGE and similar, you get the idea. Also, i don't like this entire thing about anime elitism. Some people, including myself, just find that kind of anime interesting and incredibly enjoyable, but still don't go around and spit on what other people like. Yeah, there are always people who watch "elitist anime" just because somebody told them they would seem smarter that way although they don't enjoy what they are watching just like that girl in your middle school who always bragged about reading classic books, despite never actually really liking or understanding them. tldr don't judge people based on what they watch, not everybody who liked Utena is a shit edgy person who hates everything and doesn't even like what they watch. |
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LoGH_Elitist_boy said: That's not what being an elitist means though.<-- my fucking USERNAME As long as you've watched it and hate on any mainstream show you can officially call yourself an elitist |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: A list generally doesn't include these shows: - anything moe (e.g. K-On, Lucky Star, and a bunch of shows these days, including pop idol shows), with a few exceptions - anything that's really obviously fanservicey, with a few exceptions - anything that could look "immature", "kiddie", or otherwise shallow Okay. A moe show that can be dubbed as an elitist favourite? Colour me intrigued. |
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Maneki-Mew said: [re Mushishi] I don't know if you like such an atmosphere. It's very episodic and calm, both in a good way. The episodes explore individual (life) stories and the interdependency between humans and the Mushi (aka nature more or less). It's very interesting, beautifully drawn and the Mushi could get a little bit creepy sometimes. :D That actually sounds like it might be up my alley. I do like slow, contemplative, gently emotional stuff sometimes. (I'm appreciating that about Sola at the moment and I've also been on-and-off watching Fruits Basket, for example.) Maneki-Mew said: You're welcome.Thank you for the explanation for NGE ^^ lady_freyja said: Yeah I think it'd make sense to make quality-based (or other such) lists sorted by genre, rather than trying to mix them all together and get some jumble that overrepresents/underrepresents certain genres. Because frankly speaking, the entire point of a "psychological" thriller-drama is very different from the entire point of a bright, feelgood slice-of-life story.@GlennMagusHarvey I globally like your views on the subject. GlennMagusHarvey said: (I specify "man" since these sorts of shows do seem to be generally aimed more at men than women -- a good number of them are seinen, and frankly speaking, where there is fanservice in these series it's usually hot babes and cute chicks, not bishies and buff dudes.) That's totally true. And when a shōjo reach that « anime for "elitist", aka pretentious people » category, like Rose of Versailles or Utena as showed in the "elitist stared pack" pictures. People will stress out how "different" they are from "normal shōjo", like they're trying to separate those anime from the "shōjo" label, because it's not a cool enough label. But of course they don't understanding a thing about shōjo and are just showing how silly they are. Maybe one day I should try to create a list of "shōjo anime for pretentious people", should be fun~ |
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Sonal1988 said: Azumanga Daioh has shown up in this thread already.GlennMagusHarvey said: A list generally doesn't include these shows: - anything moe (e.g. K-On, Lucky Star, and a bunch of shows these days, including pop idol shows), with a few exceptions - anything that's really obviously fanservicey, with a few exceptions - anything that could look "immature", "kiddie", or otherwise shallow Okay. A moe show that can be dubbed as an elitist favourite? Colour me intrigued. I think it's because it's been around long enough that it's cemented itself as being not just any other moë show but basically the one that started it all, and so now by this point you have people who can look back fondly on it. Aria the Animation is also typically there, and if anything it sorta sticks out as a sore thumb and token slice-of=life amongst a bunch of darker action/thriller series. And for a different kind of cutesiness there's also Excel Saga. More recent stuff will probably start to fall into this time-horizon -- basically, old enough for people to reminisce about what they enjoyed -- in about a decade or so. |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: Azumanga Daioh has shown up in this thread already. I think it's because it's been around long enough that it's cemented itself as being not just any other moë show but basically the one that started it all, and so now by this point you have people who can look back fondly on it. Aria the Animation is also typically there, and if anything it sorta sticks out as a sore thumb and token slice-of=life amongst a bunch of darker action/thriller series. And for a different kind of cutesiness there's also Excel Saga. More recent stuff will probably start to fall into this time-horizon -- basically, old enough for people to reminisce about what they enjoyed -- in about a decade or so. Had to look both of them up. And you're right. Who knows? 10 yrs down the line Koe no Katachi and Kimi no Na Wa might become future elitists' favs :p Or do anime have to qualify is NOT being popular during their time period/being severely underappreciated, in order to be classified as elitist favs? |
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lady_freyja said: And when a shōjo reach that « anime for "elitist", aka pretentious people » category, like Rose of Versailles or Utena as showed in the "elitist stared pack" pictures. People will stress out how "different" they are from "normal shōjo", like they're trying to separate those anime from the "shōjo" label, because it's not a cool enough label. But of course they don't understanding a thing about shōjo and are just showing how silly they are. Maybe one day I should try to create a list of "shōjo anime for pretentious people", should be fun~ Hey. Well said! This thought hadn't occurred to me! |
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Kuraokani said: AnimeXHunter said: SAO is the farthest show away from being considered a "Elitist anime" though.. lolSword Art Online and Eromanga Sensei. Well, the biggest elitist I know on MAL has it in his favorites so there's that. The point is that anything can become an 'elitst anime' (such a thing does not exist btw, an anime will never be able to have an elitist attitude since it is not a human being) if someone is elitist about it. Everything else is just shitty memeing and shaming any anime that gets critical acclaim because if you have no arguments to criticize them, shaming is the only option to discredit them and their fans when you, for some reason, feel the need to attack them. |
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Sonal1988 said: GlennMagusHarvey said: A list generally doesn't include these shows: - anything moe (e.g. K-On, Lucky Star, and a bunch of shows these days, including pop idol shows), with a few exceptions - anything that's really obviously fanservicey, with a few exceptions - anything that could look "immature", "kiddie", or otherwise shallow Okay. A moe show that can be dubbed as an elitist favourite? Colour me intrigued. anything can be moe. Kaiji is moe as fuck, Reinhard from LOGH has some super moe moments, or Ed from Cowboy Bebop too. World Masterpiece Theater works usually have a lot of moe as well. Just look at the poster for Les Miserables and tell me you don't want to protect Cosette from her abusive household. People who hate on moe and/or think it is only about cute (as in drawn in a specific, modern cutesy artstyle), underage girls, don't know what the term actually means. |
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| @Sonal1988 to add to the list, Lain and Pino (Ergo Proxy) are moe af. And Rei! (^: |
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tragedydesu said: Honestly, The Tatami Galaxy is actually pretty damn good. You don't need to be an elitist to enjoy it. Even Monster has some crazy suspenseful parts to it (although it does slow down to a snail's pace multiple times).Legend of the Galactic Heroes Monster Neon Genesis Evangelion Ping Pong The Animation The Tatami Galaxy NHK ni Youkoso! all of them are shitty boring flawless deep masterpieces |
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Pullman said: anything can be moe. Kaiji is moe as fuck, Reinhard from LOGH has some super moe moments, or Ed from Cowboy Bebop too. World Masterpiece Theater works usually have a lot of moe as well. Just look at the poster for Les Miserables and tell me you don't want to protect Cosette from her abusive household. People who hate on anime and/or think it is only about cute (as in drawn in a specific, modern cutesy artstyle), underage girls, don't know what the term actually means. Oh. I don't know why but I assumed you were talking about moe anime (like that from KyoAni), and not moe elements in anime. |
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Clebardman said: @Sonal1988 to add to the list, Lain and Pino (Ergo Proxy) are moe af. And Rei! (^: Okay, I am not sure if you're trolling me or being sincere :/ |
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| Question: If someone has a majority of the anime listed here (dubbed as elitist favs) on his top 10 list, but also has anime like FMAB or Death Note in his list, would he still be considered an elitist? Or would he simply be a filthy mudbood? |
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| @Sonal1988 about wich character? Lain or Pino? I find them more... hmmm... credible than most lolis, and as such much cuter. If we're talking about Rei Ayanami, she's generally considered a turning point in the moe trend. |
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Clebardman said: @Sonal1988 about wich character? Lain or Pino? I find them more... hmmm... credible than most lolis, and as such much cuter. If we're talking about Rei Ayanami, she's generally considered a turning point in the moe trend. Okay. Do you have any article or video links on that subject? I wasn't aware of this. |
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Sonal1988 said: Clebardman said: @Sonal1988 about wich character? Lain or Pino? I find them more... hmmm... credible than most lolis, and as such much cuter. If we're talking about Rei Ayanami, she's generally considered a turning point in the moe trend. Okay. Do you have any article or video links on that subject? I wasn't aware of this. Wikipedia lists a book called "Otaku: Japan’s Database Animals", but I'm sure there are other mentions of or even studies on the impact of the Premium girl on the industry (^: |
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Clebardman said: Wikipedia lists a book called "Otaku: Japan’s Database Animals", but I'm sure there are other mentions of or even studies on the impact of the Premium girl on the industry (^: Bruuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh. Nobody's gonna read a BOOK on it :/ |
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| I enjoy Monster, Mushishi, LotG, Rakugo, Evangelion, Tatami Galaxy and Ping Pong but also FMAB, Death Note, SAO, One Piece, Girls und Panzer, Free! etc... It is possible to like different kinds of anime and not be an elitist... I hope no one avoids these shows just because they are associated with elitists because they all happen to be mostly great shows in my experience. Also, I'm not sure how Kaiji and Uchuu Kyoudai are considered elitist now... |
| @Sonal1988 Apparently the guys who write Wikipedia pages do, tho they might be lying since nobody will ever check (^: |
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| lmao stfu shit taste plebs keep trying to defend yourselves by subjectivity and other bullshit but you know and feel it deep down that Re:Zero sucks and LotGH is epic Reinhardo sama is even much cuter than trashy waifus like Emilia/Remu |
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Clebardman said: @Sonal1988 Apparently the guys who write Wikipedia pages do, tho they might be lying since nobody will ever check (^: All I know is, those dudes were paid to do their research. I'm doing it out of mere curiosity, and that's not a big enough push for me to plough through an entire book! |
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Sonal1988 said: It's funny you should say this because now it means that FMAB is in both "elitist" or "filthy mudbood" (or substitute preferred antonym there) lists.Question: If someone has a majority of the anime listed here (dubbed as elitist favs) on his top 10 list, but also has anime like FMAB or Death Note in his list, would he still be considered an elitist? Or would he simply be a filthy mudbood? |
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SpaghettiSpike said: lmao stfu shit taste plebs keep trying to defend yourselves by subjectivity and other bullshit but you know and feel it deep down that Re:Zero sucks and LotGH is epic Reinhardo sama is even much cuter than trashy waifus like Emilia/Remu Can you please not mention that filth Emilia in the same sentence as my waifu Rem? Much obliged. #waifuelitism |
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XquisiteWig said: Also, I'm not sure how Kaiji and Uchuu Kyoudai are considered elitist now... Probably cause they don't get criticized much so they're "safe" shows to favorite. I just like the former cause Kaiji Ito is a beacon is kawaiiness. |
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| It's funny you should say this because now it means that FMAB is in both "elitist" or "filthy mudbood" (or substitute preferred antonym there) lists.[/quote] Interesting. How does one anime be considered a choice for both elitists and casuals? And do other anime qualify then? Maybe Gintama and Gurren Lagann. Or any anime with baras in it; I've found that one commonality in the lists of elitists. Seems like they collectively have a thing against bishies. |
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| I wouldn't call it shit, a bait 4 pages long with replies after 4 days is pretty good, even though it's not so hard with a thread about elitists. Your other thread about incest on the other hand... that fits your description ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Pullman said: anything can be moe. Kaiji is moe as fuck, Reinhard from LOGH has some super moe moments, or Ed from Cowboy Bebop too. World Masterpiece Theater works usually have a lot of moe as well. Just look at the poster for Les Miserables and tell me you don't want to protect Cosette from her abusive household. People who hate on moe and/or think it is only about cute (as in drawn in a specific, modern cutesy artstyle), underage girls, don't know what the term actually means. Didn't I already respond to this comment? Bc now I can't find it here :/ |
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Sonal1988 said: You did (#138)Pullman said: anything can be moe. Kaiji is moe as fuck, Reinhard from LOGH has some super moe moments, or Ed from Cowboy Bebop too. World Masterpiece Theater works usually have a lot of moe as well. Just look at the poster for Les Miserables and tell me you don't want to protect Cosette from her abusive household. People who hate on moe and/or think it is only about cute (as in drawn in a specific, modern cutesy artstyle), underage girls, don't know what the term actually means. Didn't I already respond to this comment? Bc now I can't find it here :/ https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1652841&show=100#msg52004082 |
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Pullman said: press the #160 (in the example of my post right now) thingy in the upper right corner of the post and it gives you the url. Thank you! And so many helpful people here today. I'm not used to seeing mature behaviour in the forums, which is why I generally tend to stay away from them. |
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Sonal1988 said: Pullman said: press the #160 (in the example of my post right now) thingy in the upper right corner of the post and it gives you the url. Thank you! And so many helpful people here today. I'm not used to seeing mature behaviour in the forums, which is why I generally tend to stay away from them. Well, if you stay away, you can't see anything, including helpful people :> But yeah, the forum is far from perfect just like any place where people can post in (semi)anonymity. You gotta learn how to deal with it/ignore it so you can experience the better aspects of a community like this, if you want to. Depends on the person really. I've always been a forum-oriented guy since I was like 12 so I'm used to not being swayed too much by the general toxicity of a lot of the forum culture. Liberal use of the ignore function on MAL helps with keeping your sanity as well. |
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