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Should Reverse NTR be a genre of its own?
Sep 28, 2016 3:25 PM
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I recently got back to hentai and enjoyed Reverse NTR, which is really hard to find. But I am sure this may be a genre certain types of anime fans will find them entertaining. So Should it or shouldnt it?

On a side note, should Isekai be a genre of its own?
Sep 28, 2016 3:26 PM
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No...

And no, Isekai is simply a way to get to that fantasy setting.
Sep 28, 2016 3:32 PM
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I thought it was already?

Oh, well it doesn't matter anyways.
Sep 28, 2016 3:39 PM
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i have an even better proposal - every individual anime now becomes its own genre
Sep 28, 2016 3:42 PM
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Wtf is reverse NTR? You NTR the NTRer? Wouldn't it just be double NTR then?

And isekai kinda already is its own genre. Which is unfortunate for originality.
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Sep 28, 2016 3:43 PM
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I thought there already was a term for that. Netori?
Sep 28, 2016 3:45 PM
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Real talk I want the "girl who has consensual happy sex with an orc, that's right it's not a gross orc rapes girl mindbreak scat birth doujin that have good character designs but gross fetishes, you can wank and feel good" trend to stay forever. let's make that a genre.
MortalMelancholy said:
Wtf is reverse NTR? You NTR the NTRer? Wouldn't it just be double NTR then?

And isekai kinda already is its own genre. Which is unfortunate for originality.

I think reverse NTR is male gets NTRed by another female or Netori.
or maybe it is just double ntr.
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Sep 28, 2016 3:46 PM
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MortalMelancholy said:
Wtf is reverse NTR? You NTR the NTRer? Wouldn't it just be double NTR then?

And isekai kinda already is its own genre. Which is unfortunate for originality.


It just means that the girl steals the guy from another girl (I think so at least)
Sep 28, 2016 3:47 PM
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Darekmhn1 said:
MortalMelancholy said:
Wtf is reverse NTR? You NTR the NTRer? Wouldn't it just be double NTR then?

And isekai kinda already is its own genre. Which is unfortunate for originality.


It just means that the girl steals the guy from another girl (I think so at least)

... Isn't that just like, normal NTR?
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Sep 28, 2016 3:55 PM
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No, Politics should be a genre of its own, and it must be done logically or else!
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Darekmhn1 said:
MortalMelancholy said:
Wtf is reverse NTR? You NTR the NTRer? Wouldn't it just be double NTR then?

And isekai kinda already is its own genre. Which is unfortunate for originality.


It just means that the girl steals the guy from another girl (I think so at least)

I'm going to go ahead and just redefine the term as swinging except both partners aren't aware.
OT: With that in mind no there's already a genre
Edit: After a google search yeah it's what you said. But it also is a genre already so there's that. I guess I just defined double NTR.
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Sep 28, 2016 4:03 PM
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MortalMelancholy said:
Darekmhn1 said:


It just means that the girl steals the guy from another girl (I think so at least)

... Isn't that just like, normal NTR?


I don't really know I don't really care about the tags that indicate the 'story' I know what I've heard others say so yeah... I think that this is what op means tho because the he asked for reverse ntr on the reccomendation board and this is how he described it

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1557167
Sep 28, 2016 5:36 PM

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I dont know about weird taste threads but I think moe or cgdct at least should have its own genre since its such a huge part of the shows airing and already existing. And many people are looking for exactly that in anime so it could help searching.


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Sep 28, 2016 5:42 PM

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Based on the answers here, I'm assuming that Reverse NTR falls along the lines of "Teacher's Pet"?
Sep 28, 2016 5:51 PM

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Idk too much about NTR, but is NTR when the girl cheats? Or when the guy does it?

I thought that it was fot both genres.
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Sep 28, 2016 6:03 PM

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Isn't it just ntr? I mean I thought gender was irrelevant in ntr...
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danilitoleon said:
Idk too much about NTR, but is NTR when the girl cheats? Or when the guy does it?

I thought that it was fot both genres.



from the definition standpoint, it still is NTR. But then again, good luck with finding it among gazillions of ordinary NTR. And you will in no time realize why there is a need for a more specific genre tag for reverse NTR.
Sep 28, 2016 6:55 PM

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For the term, gender is irrelevant when stealing but if really matters to you, use sites that categories tags for each gender separately. G-E and 'sad panda' for example. A quick search for those translated in English with female doing the stealing resulted in over 600 results. It's not hard to find NTR with the girl doing the stealing.
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Paul said:
For the term, gender is irrelevant when stealing but if really matters to you, use sites that categories tags for each gender separately. G-E and 'sad panda' for example. A quick search for those translated in English with female doing the stealing resulted in over 600 results. It's not hard to find NTR with the girl doing the stealing.


what's the key for that? I mean if there is, then it further proves my point that it is a further genre(genre of its own) right?
Sep 28, 2016 7:06 PM

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Reversed NTR,
where the male MC who has a GF got stolen by another female's BF

OP surely found some new interest/orientation.
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Mathwizzy said:
Paul said:
For the term, gender is irrelevant when stealing but if really matters to you, use sites that categories tags for each gender separately. G-E and 'sad panda' for example. A quick search for those translated in English with female doing the stealing resulted in over 600 results. It's not hard to find NTR with the girl doing the stealing.


what's the key for that? I mean if there is, then it further proves my point that it is a further genre(genre of its own) right?


It's not a genre of its own because both genders use the same tag. On G-E you use male:netorare to find those with female doing the stealing as it is applying to the male being stolen. Female:netorare for the girl being stolen.

The only reason to use reverse ever in a tag is because that site doesn't have gender specifics or just has a shitty tag system, which is why I rarely use anything outside of the two sites I listed for doujins, etc, cause they all have shitty tag systems.

edit: My numbers were wrong though, that was the amount for female NTR.
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Interesting m8, as Netori means MC steal girl from another guy

Logically your term will be some bitch that already have mate (BF/husband) that betray him and give herself to MC/protag right?

I'm still curious about it TC, you know, this is serious matter. If you can, please PM me that manga (just name is enough), i need it for my study/research project, thank you.
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Mathwizzy said:
danilitoleon said:
Idk too much about NTR, but is NTR when the girl cheats? Or when the guy does it?

I thought that it was fot both genres.



from the definition standpoint, it still is NTR. But then again, good luck with finding it among gazillions of ordinary NTR. And you will in no time realize why there is a need for a more specific genre tag for reverse NTR.


Damn, I just checked, you're right.

Don't know which is which... :o
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Sep 29, 2016 1:00 AM
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Reverse NTR, reverse harem, reverse rape, reverse trap…

I love how those names imply that when it's a male doing it, it is "normal" while when it is a female, it is "reverse", something different, like the feminine version is always a derivative of the male version, a male preeminence.

Well, at least we avoided "romance" and "reverse romance". I guess we can be happy for that…
Sep 29, 2016 5:46 AM

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Yes, Re:Zero made me think that way :>.

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Reverse NTR, reverse harem, reverse rape, reverse trap…

I love how those names imply that when it's a male doing it, it is "normal" while when it is a female, it is "reverse", something different, like the feminine version is always a derivative of the male version, a male preeminence.

Well, at least we avoided "romance" and "reverse romance". I guess we can be happy for that…


But NTR normally means that the girl is being fucked by someone else, reverse NTR would be when the male cheats on her/is being seduced away from her.
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Sep 29, 2016 5:56 AM
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Uhh it already is a separate genre, it's called Netori. Just that not all hentai sites give it its own tag

In any case I don't really like normal NTR that much but Netori can be pretty good I think. Lots of reverse rape and/or femdom potential in that
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Pullman said:
But NTR normally means that the girl is being fucked by someone else, reverse NTR would be when the male cheats on her/is being seduced away from her.

And…?
That's beside the point of my post. I was just speaking of the "male-centered" perception of those words as used in the anime community.

Why the word alone refers specifically to the male POV and when we want to refers specifically to the female POV we speak of "reverse"? Why the word alone isn't neutral, and we distinguish with "male" and "female" or something like that when we want to specify?
Incidentally, that's what explained @Paul a little above.
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lady_freyja said:
Pullman said:
But NTR normally means that the girl is being fucked by someone else, reverse NTR would be when the male cheats on her/is being seduced away from her.

And…?
That's beside the point of my post. I was just speaking of the "male-centered" perception of those words as used in the anime community.

Why the word alone refers specifically to the male POV and when we want to refers specifically to the female POV we speak of "reverse"? Why the word alone isn't neutral, and we distinguish with "male" and "female" or something like that when we want to specify?
Incidentally, that's what explained @Paul a little above.


You said the 'norm' was for the term to be about the male and the reverse version was always about girls, which is true with traps and harems but with NTR it's the opposite, it's all about the girls actions and reversal is about the male so it doesn't support your theory, that's all.

If you want to know why the term reverse in general is being used it's just based on popularity and percentages. When one version of something shows up much more often than the others people will perceive it as the standard version and the others as variations of that. That's just human psychology. Whether the most popular version happens to be about males or females or whatever else doesn't matter in that context and depends on outside factors. If you want to criticize anything then criticize the reasons why there are so much more harems than reverse harem or whatever but it's not the fault of the fans to perceive vastly more popular versions of a trope as the standard. Because in a sense it IS the standard if it represents 90% or so of the overall trope.
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there is already one, reverse NTR is called harem
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Okay I am confused. What the heck is NTR?

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Pullman said:
You said the 'norm' was for the term to be about the male and the reverse version was always about girls, which is true with traps and harems but with NTR it's the opposite, it's all about the girls actions and reversal is about the male so it doesn't support your theory, that's all.


I checked the thematic a little before answering your previous message.
And I saw that the notion, as used in porn, is kind of masochistic; "my partner has been stolen", and getting sexual arousal from it. That's in the etymology of the word too: 寝取られ which refers to a "sleep" "taken away".

So from what I understand of that concept, it is from the point of view of the person whose their lover has been stolen.

Pullman said:
If you want to know why the term reverse in general is being used it's just based on popularity and percentages. When one version of something shows up much more often than the others people will perceive it as the standard version and the others as variations of that. That's just human psychology. Whether the most popular version happens to be about males or females or whatever else doesn't matter in that context and depends on outside factors. If you want to criticize anything then criticize the reasons why there are so much more harems than reverse harem or whatever but it's not the fault of the fans to perceive vastly more popular versions of a trope as the standard. Because in a sense it IS the standard if it represents 90% or so of the overall trope.


That explanation doesn't works at all for the "trap" trope.
Baka to test, Kuragahime and Maria Holic are the only anime with a "trap" in the main cast having a decent success and impact, then you compare them to Ouran Koukou Host Club, Rose of Versailles, Utena or even Mayo Chicki, which all blow them away in term of popularity/impact.


Though, popularity or not, that doesn't change the fact that I find that pretty silly.
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OP SAYS THIS AND YET HAS THE MOST TRIGGERING NTR SIGNATURE EVER!!!

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Anything that will make my sexcapades easier, my man.
Although, I must admit that NTR is neither here nor there for me.

I also think in porn in general, they should separate tags for a threesome with two girls in it, and a threesome with two boys in it.
Two boys sharing one girl and trying to ignore each other's pinguses is pretty gey.

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