| The reason why I hate most western cartoon haters is because most of them want to ban western cartoon for the wrong reasons.I like western cartoon and there is a lot of western cartoon that are different from most western cartoon .I just want to protect western cartoon from irrational people that want to ban it.like video games.there is no reason to ban them.I am fine if someone says "Nah western cartoon is not my taste,but if they say like "Western cartoon should be banned".That's no good because many people(even the people outside west)love western cartoon .There is no reason to ban western cartoon .western cartoon is like any other media.It's okay to have opinions and like something you like. |
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| Western cartoons are too perfect to be criticized like anime. |
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| Define hate? If you mean the dismissive attitude of the general public to those who partake in watching (non-disney) cartoons after the age of 15, then yes, this is in most countries. If you mean do the fans in the community critic them as harshly then maybe not. I think the limited choice available tends to make people a bit less harsh when watching them. On the other side of the coin there seems to be a decent portion of the anime community who dismiss western cartoons without even trying them. That's not a rule, many anime fans have perfectly good reasons for disliking it even if it's I tried it and didn't like it in some cases but there seems to be a significant faction who haven't tried and still down it, more so than with any specific anime genre I personally think. |
Nico- said: I could say the same thing for western cartoons.Anime gets so much more criticism for being "different" it's sad. |
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Nico- said: Nah anime isn't criticized simply for being different on Mal.DrGeroCreation said: I could say the same thing for western cartoons. On MAL at the very least if anything. |
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NovxM said: Anime is mainly aimed at edgy teens that's why there can barely ever be an adult main protagonist and highschool is such a dominant setting. There are people that watch Steven Universe that have never even been active on Tumblr like me, stop generalizing. That's like saying all anime fans are weaboo neckbeards.No because western cartoons are either aimed at children (they can be very good nonetheless) or at tumblr's activists (ex: steven universe). @Nico- Imo people find it more normal to watch anime than western cartoons. |
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| People I know who don't watch anime see it as being so serious and hardcore and all western cartoons as Spongebob. Also Steven Universe isn't avant garde because it has influence from anime. |
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MindForged said: Mal is obsessed with Tumblr and sjws. A day doesn't go by on Mal without either one being mentioned.I was kinda being facetious man. :) I just think the incessant references to Tumblr, whenever gender is brought up, are absurd. |
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| Well yeah But all of people who hate western cartoons are anime fans (I assume). I like both, so I don't understand it. |
| I don't care who criticizes what. We all got opinions, it don't matter. Media is media, similar or different, of course we ain't gonna like it all. |
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| everything is being criticized! cartoon or anime, or what subject is being used for a conversation :D |
The world is cruel, ugly and pitiful. Let's watch anime and make it colorful |
| Really depends on the cartoon dough. I see a lot more praise for gravity falls, rick and morty, bob's burgers, Than i see criticisms. But something like family guy, teen titans GO. And pretty much anything that was on early adult swim gets plenty of criticisms. I don't think it's any different than how the anime community goes about it. |
NovxM said: I think they do when doing stuff like Akame Ga Kill, Mirai Nikki etc. Likewise there are many cartoons that appeal to both kids, teens and adults. Yeah generalizing is fun.DrGeroCreation said: Anime is mainly aimed at edgy teens that's why there can barely ever be an adult main protagonist and highschool is such a dominant setting. There are people that watch Steven Universe that have never even been active on Tumblr like me, stop generalizing. That's like saying all anime fans are weaboo neckbeards. Yeah right, I'm sure japanese studios have western "edgy" teens in mind when they choose what to produce. Imo, the choice of young protagonists has more to do with the "seriousness" of the adulthood (and the world of work) in the japanese society. Many shows with young protagonists are obviously aimed at adults or at least as enjoyable for them as it is for children. Now of course all those who watch steven's universe don't have a tumblr account. I was "generalizing" just like you did by saying "anime is mainly aimed at edgy teens". |
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| @Layfonkun X men evolution & Wolverine and the X men > X men TAS (90's) |
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| Not really. Western Cartoons: "You watch those kiddy things?" Anime: "You watch those tentacle porn things?" |
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| I don't really watch cartoons anymore but I still enjoy them once in a while. I just wish they would break out of the formula of solely making episodic comedies. Its like huge restriction on the creativity creators can have. I know Mister DrGeroCreation that their are some mature shows out their but way too few and no one is going to bother to look for them anyway. |
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Layfonkun said: Wolverine and the X men wasn't edgy it was just more serious than X men TAS.DrGeroCreation said: @Layfonkun X men evolution & Wolverine and the X men > X men TAS (90's) Blasphemy, pure blasphemy. I'll disagree but respect Evolution. Wolverine and the X Men? No freaking way it was better. It tried so hard to be edgy and pull younger fans in, it was insulting. That 90s X-Men was so far ahead of it's time, anything that gets compared to it better be damn good and Wolverine & His Sidekicks doesn't make that cut. @Major123 Wish anime would break out of mainly battle shonen, battle harems, moe slice of life, romcoms. It's like a huge restriction on the creativity creators have. Same could be said for anime. Stuff like Monster, 91 Days are the minority in anime. |
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Tonya434 said: Do some people hate western cartoons the same way some people hate anime. No way, less hate and more..lack of care. Except the loonies, nobody goes out of their to denounce western animation. I hear Japan appreciates western animation (known to them as anime) moreso than westerners appreciate anime. But I don't think you can call most people view of cartoons in general "hate", just neglect. Don't burn your family at the stake for not watching the glorious anime, folks. |
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| As someone who is active on discussion forums for both Western animation and anime, yes. Teen Titans Go is basically the SAO of Western animation popularity/hate. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| Mhhh... I don't know but I want to know if Cartoon is more known or is it Anime? OT: Shouldn't be it the other way around, like some random meme, " Anime is for child" like that? |
| Western cartoons are either satirical works that can vary extremely in quality (South Park, Family Guy, the Simpsons, The Boondocks, etc.) or kids shows that can be meaningful but are nonetheless aimed at developing minds at the end of the day (Adventure Time, Steven universe, DC and Marvel cartoons, etc.) They're much more limited than anime in terms if genre but still end up targeting specific groups like anime |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
| Most anime are for teens and kids. Shonen is a more popular demographic than seinen for anime and there are a lot of seinen that are cutesy moe slice of life and not serious mature seinen like Monster. |
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| Probably. I honestly think anybody over 18+ in the USA views 99% of animation as "kid shows" or "kid movies." This applies to both cartoons and anime, unfortunately. Which sucks cause that is not the case at all in both mediums. |
MindForged said: Fred457 said: Western cartoons are either satirical works that can vary extremely in quality (South Park, Family Guy, the Simpsons, The Boondocks, etc.) or kids shows that can be meaningful but are nonetheless aimed at developing minds at the end of the day (Adventure Time, Steven universe, DC and Marvel cartoons, etc.) They're much more limited than anime in terms if genre but still end up targeting specific groups like anime I'm not sure Western animation targets nearly as specific audiences as anime does. To parrot @15poundfish, Western cartoons aim from higher profit margins, which requires broadening the target audiences, at least to some degree. I agree that anime is much more selective but I couldn't find any other comparison atm |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
| Anime : Kodomo, Shonen, Seinen, Shoujo, Josie Western cartoons : cartoons for toddlers (Dora etc.), DC animated movies and Young Justice for male teens and young adults, adult animated sitcoms targeted at adults, Adventure Time, Regular Show, Over the Garden Wall, Gravity Falls, Gargoyles, Batman TAS broad appeal can attract adults, teens and kids, Girl's cartoons (Bratz, Monster High, Ever After High, MLP) obviously target girls, French animated movies - some can be solely targeted at kids but others can have content that is not suitable for kids. |
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DrGeroCreation said: I'd actually argue its not, their is at least a decent amount of mature you can look through. You have DBZ in your favs though so I don't know why your complaining about battle shounens.Layfonkun said: Wolverine and the X men wasn't edgy it was just more serious than X men TAS.Blasphemy, pure blasphemy. I'll disagree but respect Evolution. Wolverine and the X Men? No freaking way it was better. It tried so hard to be edgy and pull younger fans in, it was insulting. That 90s X-Men was so far ahead of it's time, anything that gets compared to it better be damn good and Wolverine & His Sidekicks doesn't make that cut. @Major123 Wish anime would break out of mainly battle shonen, battle harems, moe slice of life, romcoms. It's like a huge restriction on the creativity creators have. Same could be said for anime. Stuff like Monster, 91 Days are the minority in anime. |
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