| So recently I was shown this relatively new Netflix documentary called 'Fed up', basically its a politically motivated film that focuses on explaining how Americans have been approaching the weight loss technique all wrong to fight obesity and that instead of reducing on fat consumption they need to reduce their sugar consumption and tries to pin it on the corporations. Now I'm not gonna lie I felt skeptical so I did some research and this article came up https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-the-movie-fed-up-make-sense/ Basically it outlines the faults in this kind of research and how easily it jumps to conclusions and also uses false facts to support itself Anyway what do you think? is sugar the main cause of obesity in America? |
| I've been here way too long... |
| No just not balancing how much you eat or when you eat combined with either slower metabolism or just not physical active is any way. |
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| I doubt it to be so, i do not live in America so i am not sure, but first world country should be dominated by lets call it - sitting job, plus fast live style. I would presume that it's more likely from fast foods and lack of physically active acts on the daily basis, but with my lack of knowledge of American culture i might be wrong about it. Also you might wanna change title of this as it could be read as implying that sugar is the cause of thoughts. ^^ |
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| i eat a lot of sweets since childhood and still skinny so i guess sugar not the cause of overweight. |
GhostOutOfShell said: I doubt it to be so, i do not live in America so i am not sure, but first world country should be dominated by lets call it - sitting job, plus fast live style. I would presume that it's more likely from fast foods and lack of physically active acts on the daily basis, but with my lack of knowledge of American culture i might be wrong about it. Also you might wanna change title of this as it could be read as implying that sugar is the cause of thoughts. ^^ I agree with you and think the same but find it highly amusing that Americans in the documentary were genuinely confused what was causing their obesity to not drop when they switched from hot pockets to a 'lite' version of the same thing. I considered it but eh I think its fine :D |
| I've been here way too long... |
| Ironic for someone like me to say but making out its I know its clearly not the fact I live at McDonalds or do 0 exercise and eat shit all day its the corporations fault, is pretty typical I know pin it on someone else other than yourself. I admit I make bad diet choices but I wont ever go and pin Redbull, monster, red devil or Emerge for diabetes or heart problems from drinking 2 or 3 cans of energy drinks a day or complain to the Pot Noodle company or instant ramen company for making me un-healthy considering I have 1 or 2 a day for my breakfast when I arrive at work and one at my 11am snap break at work. Plus from my limited Biology knowledge sugar doesnt lead to fat, foods that have high amounts of sugar tend to have a lot of calories which are converted and stored as fat I haven't done biology for a while so I may be off by a bit. TLDR- Seems like people blaming everyone but themselves for their problems caused by their own lifestyle choices. |
PurplePantiesFeb 1, 2016 11:39 AM
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| Sugar, ah honey, honey You are my candy girl And you gave me obesity Honey, ah sugar, sugar I am your candy girl And I'm having a heart attack |
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| It's not really the sugar it's really just eating habits, among other things. If you over eat, whether it's sweets or not, and don't get any exercise, it'll lead to you getting fat, and having other major health issues develop sooner or later. |
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| No. It's usually a combination of diet, lifestyle and other factors. |
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| It's really just over eating and a stationary life style. Granted, no two bodies are exactly the same I guess. |
| Not sugar itself more so processed sugars. High fructose corn syrup is in a lot of food products and it messes up with a persons ability to feel full. Also people tend to do a lot of things while eating and the distractions make it so they do not focus on the food enough so it makes it easier to not realize when you are full. Weight gain is just from eating more calories than you use up so the calories energy gets stored in fat cells. Humans do not have as much brown fat as some other animals do and brown fat actually keeps certain animals more slim and not gain weight as easily as humans do. |
| Sugars are the culprit for over-eating, and therefore the culprit for obesity, after being combined with fast-foods, and high-calorie (non-nutritious) foods in general. Increasing intake of sugar (especially processed or simple sugars), GREATLY increases the physiological demand to eat. With the increased blood sugar level fluctuations, these people who are now essentially addicted to sugar, will go from "craving to binging" indefinitely. |
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| ye, if you follow health science news you will know that excess sugar can be converted to fat deposits that may cause obesity, heart disease, insulin resistance (that makes it more harder to lose weight) and diabetes and not to mention sugar is addictive so its easy to eat more and more foods that contain it |
PurplePanties said: Ironic for someone like me to say but making out its I know its clearly not the fact I live at McDonalds or do 0 exercise and eat shit all day its the corporations fault, is pretty typical I know pin it on someone else other than yourself. I admit I make bad diet choices but I wont ever go and pin Redbull, monster, red devil or Emerge for diabetes or heart problems from drinking 2 or 3 cans of energy drinks a day or complain to the Pot Noodle company or instant ramen company for making me un-healthy considering I have 1 or 2 a day for my breakfast when I arrive at work and one at my 11am snap break at work. Plus from my limited Biology knowledge sugar doesnt lead to fat, foods that have high amounts of sugar tend to have a lot of calories which are converted and stored as fat I haven't done biology for a while so I may be off by a bit. TLDR- Seems like people blaming everyone but themselves for their problems caused by their own lifestyle choices. jesus fucking christ man, that is so fucking bad, you dont want to exercise? fine. but that shit you eat is gonna kill you in a few years, this is so not cool man :( also, think in getting a bicycle, a very expensive one, like a bmc in carbon fiber with electronic gear shifters for example, so you feel obligated to use it because it was so expensive instead of tossing it in a corner of your house and forgetting about it ;) |
| Aww, I wanted to post a comment but I'm not 'murican. :( Adios. |
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| sure theres a lot of suger in things but no its not the cause been a fat fu and having large portions or never stop eating causes obesity. |
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| I feel like this is related. |
| Sugar adds on to the problem, but it's not the only thing. It just so happens that people who consume a lot of sugar and/or junk food as a result also don't get much exercise or eat right at all. Whatever the case, too much sugar is still definitely not good for you. |
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| Hmm. Sugar as in sugar+simple carbs? Yeah, it has a major impact, that's undeniable. Doesn't sound like many in the thread agree, but I'm basing it off personal experience. I went through a self challenge to not eat sugar or any type of sugar, as well as simple carbohydrates. Mostly ate fish, bread made from oats, fruit, veggies, etc. As well as only water and tea. Now, again just personal experience, I was dropping weight like nothing and the funny thing was I was eating whenever I felt hungry. Didn't have any cravings after a bit either. |
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| @Tewi-sama could it be that a lack of fat in your food also contributed? At least based on what you said it sounds like there need to be other factors considered. I think that the contrast between those who heavily disagree and those who agree is interesting |
| I've been here way too long... |
| @TheConquerer Well, I was still getting plenty of fats from nuts and oils, though it's obviously much healthier for you overall. I think the thing that I believe causes the most harm with sugar, is that it's been proven to be addictive. It's also very easy to get down and isn't very filling. Same with simple carbs, though that is also broken down into sugar. |
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| Yes, I think it's a major factor. Including simple carbs which metabolise in to sugars and high fructose corn syrup. Other factors play a role as well and physical activity is low in western countries but we simply can't burn off the amount of calories we eat through sugar. I can't help myself though, I've had a high carb, high sugar diet for ages but only recently started gaining weight as my metabolism has slowed and physical activity levels have dropped. I remeber seeing this video a few years ago, it's pretty long but quite interesting. Since then, a few videos have appeared up claiming to debunk the guy, although I haven't seen them. Anyway, here's the video if anyone is really, really bored or interested (the guy goes deep in to the biochemistry iirc). Edit - I'm having difficulty embedding the video so I'll just leave a link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rO6K-GPP0Q |
| I thought it was the combination of complex carbohydrates and physical inactivity that was the major cause of obesity. Sugars, on the other hand, are simple carbohydrates. |
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| Well sugar is bad for you, at least in the high moments most people get it in *cough* yes I love doughnuts. Screw you guys, I still eat mah veggies and workout mah muscles As far as the number one cause? Idk about that, but it is a huge factor in most people gaining weight. However, I should be clear that when I say "sugar" I am also meaning carbs. Most people eat way too many carbs than they should, and we all know that carbs>sugar>fat (essentially I am saying that carbs break down into sugar and then sugar gets stored as fat). Also, there is such a thing as eating too much, with many people are guilty of but will never admit to. *slowly raises hand* My diet is high protein, high fat, high veggie and somewhat low carb don't take away my doughnuts please. Prior to that a few years ago I tried going vegan, and basically my diet was a little fruit, a little veggie, and a ton of carbs. I was pretty tubby back then and here I thought I was being healthy. So, I do think it's a cause but I don't think sugar is the ONLY cause. I hate to sound like one of those people, but when I was a personal trainer I had many clients that when they initially came in they would give me a list of what they thought was a healthy "low fat" diet and it was basically all low fat, high carb junk. I understood they weren't educated on thi smatter, but there comes a point where people need to take responsibility in learning about the real facts about nutrition instead of getting all of their info from pinterist and tumblr. |
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| The reason why Americans are fat is because the lizard men running the country send telepathic fat particles into voting Americans, causing them to gain fat. In order to not get fat you need to wear tin foil armor to repel the fatty telepathic particles. |
| The average american diet is very unhealthy in nature, if there is a country on earth that NEEDS veganism its America i would say. And YES sugar is the biggest culprit. |
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| Excessive sugar intake leads to fat gaining so I wouldn't be surprised if sugar is the cause behind the widespread obesity albeit there are also other factors involved such as lifestyle habits. |
kattee said: i eat a lot of sweets since childhood and still skinny so i guess sugar not the cause of overweight. same here. i don't get fat even if i want to sadface.jpg |
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Tewi-sama said: Doesn't sound like many in the thread agree, but I'm basing it off personal experience. I went through a self challenge to not eat sugar or any type of sugar, as well as simple carbohydrates. For me cutting simple carbs did it, well, is doing it. As for the topic - actually I dunno what the average American diet is like. I am pretty curious in fact. |
deadoptimistFeb 2, 2016 9:53 AM
| I don't believe that it's only sugar and sweets that causes obesity. I feel that obesity is more caused by over eating and the lack of exercise. They eat too much, and then leave a sedentary lifestyle. Sugar is a part of it since many people like sweets, but it's not the whole story. |
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| I drink juice and water :0 I also barely eat (in a healthy way?) gosh when I was a teen I would eat all the time @.@ but when I suddenly started eating less my mom got worried and tried to get me to eat more food lol. Also from my step dad he says the food here (u.s) is tainted well not tainted but unhealthy even the healthy foods lel He wishes to go to his home country because of this. |
CommieSalamiFeb 2, 2016 9:56 AM
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| No. It's not the only thing going on with it, sugar is in almost everything. The problem is people living unhealthy lifestyles, like not exercising that extra sugar off. |
Tewi-sama said: @TheConquerer Well, I was still getting plenty of fats from nuts and oils, though it's obviously much healthier for you overall. I think the thing that I believe causes the most harm with sugar, is that it's been proven to be addictive. It's also very easy to get down and isn't very filling. Same with simple carbs, though that is also broken down into sugar. Ah yeah of course but I mean meat and all that, they can be pretty greasy That's true but its not that hard to get off it, I feel sometimes people over exaggerate its addictive qualities. Its just a natural response to the brain's reward circuit like most food. |
| I've been here way too long... |
| i think it's also just processed food. and stuff like corn syrup, palm oil, glucose syrup, canned food. basically we don't eat what we are supposed to eat anymore. and that is extremely fresh vegetables and fresh fish/meat. also waaaay too many people don't realize how bad white bread and wheat is for them. |
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Sakuraoka said: PurplePanties said: Ironic for someone like me to say but making out its I know its clearly not the fact I live at McDonalds or do 0 exercise and eat shit all day its the corporations fault, is pretty typical I know pin it on someone else other than yourself. I admit I make bad diet choices but I wont ever go and pin Redbull, monster, red devil or Emerge for diabetes or heart problems from drinking 2 or 3 cans of energy drinks a day or complain to the Pot Noodle company or instant ramen company for making me un-healthy considering I have 1 or 2 a day for my breakfast when I arrive at work and one at my 11am snap break at work. Plus from my limited Biology knowledge sugar doesnt lead to fat, foods that have high amounts of sugar tend to have a lot of calories which are converted and stored as fat I haven't done biology for a while so I may be off by a bit. TLDR- Seems like people blaming everyone but themselves for their problems caused by their own lifestyle choices. jesus fucking christ man, that is so fucking bad, you dont want to exercise? fine. but that shit you eat is gonna kill you in a few years, this is so not cool man :( also, think in getting a bicycle, a very expensive one, like a bmc in carbon fiber with electronic gear shifters for example, so you feel obligated to use it because it was so expensive instead of tossing it in a corner of your house and forgetting about it ;) Dont really give a fuck about my health tbh, if I die in 10 years so be it might as well enjoy it. I work as a labourer and electrical engineer so my day consists of manual work and maintenance work on machinery and I weigh like 8 stone 10 pounds or something stupid for my average age Weight:Height range so if anything I am under weight but un-healthy as fuck. |
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PurplePanties said: Dont really give a fuck about my health tbh, if I die in 10 years so be it might as well enjoy it. I work as a labourer and electrical engineer so my day consists of manual work and maintenance work on machinery and I weigh like 8 stone 10 pounds or something stupid for my average age Weight:Height range so if anything I am under weight but un-healthy as fuck. hum well i can respect that, also skinny people are resilient as fuck, so even in these conditions you might last way more than those 10 years lol |
Jayden said: I don't believe that it's only sugar and sweets that causes obesity. I feel that obesity is more caused by over eating and the lack of exercise. They eat too much, and then leave a sedentary lifestyle. Sugar is a part of it since many people like sweets, but it's not the whole story. Exactly. Nobody focuses on weight training or cardio workouts even. They see 10 minutes of yoga as their only workout and expect to lose weight. Exercise is definitely a big part of weight gain, for most it's the biggest. |
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| I'm underweight/low end of healthy depending on the BMI chart and I eat a ton of sugar and artificial sweeteners, two things which are supposed to make you fat. I just also eat healthy meals on a regular basis. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| theres always gonna be that ONE guy with the genetic excuse that all the other lazy excessive and underexercised chubs wanna use as an excuse and claim thats their problem. most of my family is overweight, i am not, i was, i exercised, i still eat about the same maybe a lil healthier. the miracle drug is regular exercise. |
| Of course it is, try not going without sugar for a few days and you'll get withdrawal symptoms. Sugar is extremely addictive, and it's in almost every food besides vegetables. |
ibrahim2712 said: Of course it is, try not going without sugar for a few days and you'll get withdrawal symptoms. Sugar is extremely addictive, and it's in almost every food besides vegetables. Please tell me what you call 'withdrawal symptoms'? If it means a craving towards sugar then thats completely natural as your brain is wired up to receive and sustain itself on sugar. If you notice other symptoms like fevers or headaches I'd be curious exactly how much sugar you take and how you've been doing with weight since you've stopped. |
| I've been here way too long... |
TheConquerer said: ibrahim2712 said: Of course it is, try not going without sugar for a few days and you'll get withdrawal symptoms. Sugar is extremely addictive, and it's in almost every food besides vegetables. Please tell me what you call 'withdrawal symptoms'? If it means a craving towards sugar then thats completely natural as your brain is wired up to receive and sustain itself on sugar. If you notice other symptoms like fevers or headaches I'd be curious exactly how much sugar you take and how you've been doing with weight since you've stopped. I get my sugar fix from fruits nowadays and I avoid added sugar, but I definitely got intense cravings when I tried to stop eating sugar altogether. I tried to stop eating sugar because of my leaky gut with candida, not because of weight. I've always been unnaturally skinny. |
| No Lack of proper nutrition and exercise is problem city folk just sit in offices all day while eating crap, so their urge to eat is never sated because the body senses its not getting enough of necessary nutrients |
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