What do you think?
 So, someone from my school is doing this fundraising thing where students can donate money and then the money will be used to buy makeup and hygiene products. Then, it'll be assembled into kits and it'll be donated to a women's shelter in our city. In their defense: Person said: Often, women who find themselves in a situation where they need to leave home immediately, will leave with nothing but the clothes on their back. They say makeup is superficial, but it can be an amazing tool to help empower a woman and give her back her strength and uncovering her inner beauty. What do you think about this idea? Do you think the money is being spent in a wise manner, or should they be using the money to fund other things? Discuss and share stories. |
| this is weird but hell why not |
| oh u wanna fight. CAPS LOCK ENGAGE |
| Seems a little insulting to me. Donating money would probably be a better idea, abuse shelters are always woefully underfunded. |
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| No. I think that is an insanely wasteful donation. However I don't really get the whole "dress up" thing in general, so I can't give a fair answer. |
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Person said: Often, women who find themselves in a situation where they need to leave home immediately, will leave with nothing but the clothes on their back. They say makeup is superficial, but it can be an amazing tool to help empower a woman and give her back her strength and uncovering her inner beauty. Forget food and shelter, guys. I need to put on my makeup! |
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cause said: No. There are more important things to donate money to. |
Usagi said: Person said: Often, women who find themselves in a situation where they need to leave home immediately, will leave with nothing but the clothes on their back. They say makeup is superficial, but it can be an amazing tool to help empower a woman and give her back her strength and uncovering her inner beauty. Forget food and shelter, guys. I need to put on my makeup! "You know that black eye your husband give you? cover it up, it's ugly" |
I love Christine "If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. He will put some things behind, will pass an invisible boundary; In proportion as he simplifies his life, the laws of the universe will appear less complex, and solitude will not be solitude, nor poverty poverty, nor weakness weakness." - Henry David Thoreau |
| Should be using that money to donate to my paypal account |
| What if she's in the shelter because she spent more on makeup than payments for her house? |
| Why isn't the money being given directly to the shelter? |
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| I think food is a bit more needed than aesthetic things. |
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| Yeah, even as a female, I have to say... It's not a great idea. I know how expensive makeup is, and even worse, you can't share it with others. So one tube of mascara that costs $5 can only be used for one girl and that's one of the cheaper things. Also, it expires quickly. Mascara can only be kept for 3 months. Concealer and foundation go up to $30 if you want a decent tiny bottle of it. I do think hygiene products are necessary though, like skin exfoliators. |
| I would never donate to a womans shelter. I dont discriminate based off race or gender. If I.ever do donate its going to be to anyone who needs help the most. Its going to be for food, water and clothing only. Anything extra they dont need to live. Humanitarian needs aren't even the most important things to donate to anyways. Science and.technology are a lot more important. Problems like social disputes, disasters, poverty, war and famine can be solved by technology. The fleeting lives of humans are temporary. The technology we create on the other hand is passed on from generation to generation. |
mayukachan said: If that's the female version of soap, then sure, but seriously the shelter would much rather have the money and they'd make much better decisions with that money.I do think hygiene products are necessary though, like skin exfoliators. |
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ibear said: Yeah, I think the money should directly go there instead. And yes, I mean stuff like soap, lotion, shampoo, conditioner, etc.mayukachan said: If that's the female version of soap, then sure, but seriously the shelter would much rather have the money and they'd make much better decisions with that money.I do think hygiene products are necessary though, like skin exfoliators. |
| Hygiene products like tampons? Well yeah. Makeup? Nah. |
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| Give them fucking food, you know something you actually need to survive. I imagine they already have shelter since they'e in a woman's shelter. |
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VerballyStunted said: That's actually a great point! : o I think it's a great idea. Makeup and stuff like that may not be the most practical use of money for a donation, but it can do worlds to make someone feel human again after going through something traumatic. Women who have to use shelters after leaving an abusive relationship are usually also women who live in poverty, which can make the experience even more dehumanizing. And I'm sure it's something that's typically overlooked, too, for obvious reasons. Plus having access to stuff like that can make it easier to find work for women, which is an important step in regaining your independence. My only issue with this is that makeup is really expensive overall and if a shelter had like 300 people for example, they'd have to spend around 30-40 dollars on just one person. |
| No It seems like a good idea at first but there is a major problem with buying things for others in charity. Its better to give money to people directly. There is no reason to treat them like children who do not know what to do with their money. |
| So, what about the young boys that are brought to these abuse shelters with their mothers? Does their pain and suffering mean nothing? |
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cause said: Yeah, let's just let their blood run free and into their pants!ReaperCreeper said: Hygiene products like tampons? Well yeah. Makeup? Nah. even tampons aren't a necessity. DisdainMatto said: I don't even know if they get to bring their children.So, what about the young boys that are brought to these abuse shelters with their mothers? Does their pain and suffering mean nothing? |
cause said: I'm sure it's preferable to ruining their underwear.ReaperCreeper said: Hygiene products like tampons? Well yeah. Makeup? Nah. even tampons aren't a necessity. |
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mayukachan said: Up to the age of 14, any government financed shelter in Canada is legally required to allow children, no matter the gender.DisdainMatto said: I don't even know if they get to bring their children.So, what about the young boys that are brought to these abuse shelters with their mothers? Does their pain and suffering mean nothing? |
I love Christine "If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. He will put some things behind, will pass an invisible boundary; In proportion as he simplifies his life, the laws of the universe will appear less complex, and solitude will not be solitude, nor poverty poverty, nor weakness weakness." - Henry David Thoreau |
LionCake said: cause said: No. There are more important things to donate money to. |
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mayukachan said: K, that's the most disgusting thing I've read on here.cause said: Yeah, let's just let their blood run free and into their pants!even tampons aren't a necessity. |
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DisdainMatto said: Men more often then not get arrested themselves if they call police about being abused, and when calling abuse shelters either get straight out denied and told to basically fuck off, or referred to programs aimed at helping abusers stop abusing women.So, what about the young boys that are brought to these abuse shelters with their mothers? Does their pain and suffering mean nothing? But hey, women are oppressed because other people aren't buying their makeup for them. |
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| A lot of this makeup is going to wind up in the trash. Its a very personal taste thing. Different skin tones need different makeup. Also some people do not even like makeup or are allergic. That person at your school should not do the purchasing. Places like these get cheaper prices directly from manufacturers of goods and buy in bulk. You're throwing money away to do it yourself even if intended well. |
mayukachan said: Yeah, even as a female, I have to say... It's not a great idea. I know how expensive makeup is, and even worse, you can't share it with others. So one tube of mascara that costs $5 can only be used for one girl and that's one of the cheaper things. Also, it expires quickly. Mascara can only be kept for 3 months. Concealer and foundation go up to $30 if you want a decent tiny bottle of it. I do think hygiene products are necessary though, like skin exfoliators. when I read hygiene I didnt think skin exfoliaters........ but NO! purdy makeup just gonna make em whores |
KuroudoAkabane said: Well, having clean skin is important.when I read hygiene I didnt think skin exfoliaters........ |
| Honestly... I rather donate it to a transwomens shelter. Since they're most likely pretty low on that stuff. |
| A shelter should only provide necessities. |
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| The shelter would know what they need more than makeup. |
| i dont see why not. the fundraiser is being upfront about it and its cheaper to buy in bulk. sometimes the woman might have a low paying job that demands cleanliness and try to get away from an abusive family. besides, im sure itll make them feel happy |
cause said: Are you trying to argue that this fundraiser shouldn't exist? The students are giving their money out of good will to comfort women fleeing from domestic abuse.eturnity said: i dont see why not. the fundraiser is being upfront about it and its cheaper to buy in bulk. sometimes the woman might have a low paying job that demands cleanliness and try to get away from an abusive family. besides, im sure itll make them feel happy shelters are meant to provide you with food and shelter (SHELTERS ARE FOR SHELTERING??? WHO KNEW?!) while you get your life together/fix it not to provide you with fucking beauty products lol. there are MUCH better things to donate money towards. While we are at it, lets stop donating toys to poor families to christmas and also to terminally ill children with cancer because there are much better things to spend money on. |
| Lol. |
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| I'd rather die looking fabulous |
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cause said: eturnity said: Are you trying to argue that this fundraiser shouldn't exist? The students are giving their money out of good will to comfort women fleeing from domestic abuse. their comfort is the shelter. of which they get back on their feet. they should not be given more simply because "ive been through so much ;_;". thats not how shelters work. the make up isn't going to change ANYTHING. as opposed to the countless other things that could make a difference. sure you can choose how you spend your donations. but it doesn't make your choice any less retarded. While we are at it, lets stop donating toys to poor families to christmas and also to terminally ill children with cancer because there are much better things to spend money on. ya because a child that is dying is along the same lines of sheltered women. okay dude. lol. i hold the same view with poor children getting toys instead of basic food and water. that shits stupid. you don't put luxuries over necessities and still call yourself poor. lol. The shelter is not using money to buy make up. No woman in the shelter is demanding make up. No one is forced to donate. What problem are you seeing in all of this? That the kids are stupid for choosing a bit of happiness of some woman over the basic needs of others, and don't prescribe to utilitarianism? I highly doubt you spend all your disposable income on starving kids in Africa. keep in mind I believe that Charities are obligated to do actions that lead to the greatest good for their target population. The donators, students in this case, are not held to that high of a standard and can spend money however they like. |
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