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Oct 25, 2015 8:52 AM
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Never.
Oct 25, 2015 8:55 AM
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They actually do dating and relationship wise, unless they're also confident.
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RedTie said:
Never.
But generally, more alpha people get away with more things, generally to their advantage, making them first place. So does that mean nice guys finish last?
Bambi said:
They actually do dating and relationship wise, unless they're also confident.
But a nice guy would treat his lady nicer, would he not? Wouldn't they realise that nice guys > bad boys, especially in the long term?
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Oct 25, 2015 8:56 AM
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In terms of dating? Yes. Girls prefer bad boys.
Everything else? Na. We have the last laugh.
Oct 25, 2015 8:56 AM
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In fiction? Yes. In reality, it's right there. Just look by yourself.
Oct 25, 2015 8:58 AM
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No.
If your talking about dating, people rarely even date these days.

Also: there is no point in dating.
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Oct 25, 2015 8:58 AM
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If you are a nice guy but have bad looks, bad hygiene, no confidence, no cash then yes, nice guys finish last.
Oct 25, 2015 8:59 AM
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hoopla123 said:
If you are a nice guy but have bad looks, bad hygiene, no confidence, no cash then yes, nice guys finish last.
But generally in most cases, who wins?
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Oct 25, 2015 9:01 AM

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Oct 25, 2015 9:01 AM

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kiteen said:
RedTie said:
Never.
But generally, more alpha people get away with more things, generally to their advantage, making them first place. So does that mean nice guys finish last?
Bambi said:
They actually do dating and relationship wise, unless they're also confident.
But a nice guy would treat his lady nicer, would he not? Wouldn't they realise that nice guys > bad boys, especially in the long term?
A lot of the time nice guys lack in confidence and are nerdy, so they don't have the confidence to get the chicks in the first place, but as i said, they're plenty or nice confident guys who wouldn't finish last too.
Oct 25, 2015 9:02 AM

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kiteen said:
hoopla123 said:
If you are a nice guy but have bad looks, bad hygiene, no confidence, no cash then yes, nice guys finish last.
But generally in most cases, who wins?


Everyone likes to be treated nicely.

Obviously the nice guy doesn't finish last.

When people can't get a girl, they make the excuse of saying that they were just "too nice" or not as "bad" as the other guy instead of looking at other things that they lacked.

Maybe in Shoujo manga, because dam, girls like to be treated like fucking shit in those.
Oct 25, 2015 9:03 AM
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nice spineless guys finish last. you can be a nice guy with a lot of charisma.

i consider myself to be a nice guy, but i do it for the right reasons
Oct 25, 2015 9:04 AM
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RedTie said:
Never.
Oct 25, 2015 9:08 AM

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Uhh yea, in my experience anyways.
Oct 25, 2015 9:09 AM

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never.
girls date bad boys but settle with the nice ones.
Oct 25, 2015 9:11 AM

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amazingbrian said:
nice spineless guys finish last. you can be a nice guy with a lot of charisma.

i consider myself to be a nice guy, but i do it for the right reasons


This. Spineless =/= Nice. I've seen so many guys complain that they were too nice, but usually they just let themselves get friendzoned or were just way too judgmental of people who they deem "bad".
Oct 25, 2015 9:13 AM

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That's because they don't even enter the damn race.
Of course, you're naturally gonna finish last.
Oct 25, 2015 9:14 AM

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kobun said:
That's because they don't even enter the damn race.
Of course, you're naturally gonna finish last.
Generally I agree with this, assuming it's about a beta nice guy, of course.
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Well, one of the things that I like about my partner is that he is a jerk with a sensitive side and a kind heart, so I guess I can't say that the nice guy type is for me exactly.
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kobun said:
That's because they don't even enter the damn race.
Of course, you're naturally gonna finish last.


^ this
Oct 25, 2015 9:16 AM
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i just realized incisorr was banned

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Oct 25, 2015 9:17 AM

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Usagi said:
Well, one of the things that I like about my partner is that he is a jerk with a sensitive side and a kind heart, so I guess I can't say that the nice guy type is for me exactly.
Well if he had a sensitive side and a king heart, then he's a nice guy, even if he has the shell of a jerk.
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Usagi said:
Well, one of the things that I like about my partner is that he is a jerk with a sensitive side and a kind heart, so I guess I can't say that the nice guy type is for me exactly.

It's boring. Plus I think it comes off as kind of dishonest personally. No one is always nice and ok with what someones doing. If a guy can't tell you you're annoying him/ did something to piss him off... That isn't going to work out, people got to speak up and be honest about how they feel. A lot of these so called, "nice guys" don't seem to do that.
Oct 25, 2015 9:21 AM

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kiteen said:
Well if he had a sensitive side and a king heart, then he's a nice guy, even if he has the shell of a jerk.


When I think of the nice guy type I basically expect a "yes man" and someone who would be like "after you, milady" every time you go through a door. I expect a white knight.
Oct 25, 2015 9:23 AM

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Usagi said:
kiteen said:
Well if he had a sensitive side and a king heart, then he's a nice guy, even if he has the shell of a jerk.


When I think of the nice guy type I basically expect a "yes man" and someone who would be like "after you, milady" every time you go through a door. I expect a white knight.
I said a nice guy not a beta white knight taken straight out of the Holy Roman Empire, although I guess the "yes man" assumption is right.
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Oct 25, 2015 10:09 AM

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Most people who claim there nice guys are assholes.
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kiteen said:
I said a nice guy not a beta white knight taken straight out of the Holy Roman Empire, although I guess the "yes man" assumption is right.


A "yes man" alone still seems pretty unappealing.
Oct 25, 2015 10:14 AM

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The ugly ones do. The funny ones don't.
Oct 25, 2015 10:15 AM

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Oct 25, 2015 10:16 AM

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There's a lot of psychology behind being a ''nice guy''. Long story short goes like this: If a male has supplicative dynamics (tries to buy acceptance/attention) that is a non-attractive attribute and females would not be interested in that person beyond friendship.
Oct 25, 2015 10:16 AM

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A lot of 'nice' guys also happen to be spineless -- that's undoubtedly where the saying is coming from.
Oct 25, 2015 10:17 AM

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Guys who don't do anything finish last.
Oct 25, 2015 10:19 AM

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"Nice guy" is usually a misnomer for the people who like to use this whine.

My advice would be: there are a lot of races. Choose one that you can win by being yourself and you will be a lot happier.
Oct 25, 2015 12:36 PM

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The ones who are nice because they're naturally nice get girls. The ones who only do it for the pussy don't always win.
Oct 25, 2015 12:38 PM

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Nice guys bust quick so they come in first.
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mayukachan said:
The ones who are nice because they're naturally nice get girls. The ones who only do it for the pussy don't always win.


No. Girls don't like 'bad boys' either. Girls like sexy guys - good-looking guys who are a lot of fun. They can be good and they can be bad. All things being equal, being a good person is sexier than being an asshole. Still, it's not a factor.

The same goes for guys. Be a nice, sociable girl who cares about others but don't expect guys to be attracted to you because of that. It's a desirable quality, but not a sexy one.
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Oct 25, 2015 12:41 PM

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Nice isnt the same as spineless.
Oct 25, 2015 12:42 PM

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Yes 99% of the time "nice guys" do finish last.


And then there are the so-called "nice guys" that are only playing nice to get in a chick's pants. Until of course they get friendzoned.....
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
Oct 25, 2015 12:43 PM

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It is good manners to let her cum first, you know?
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Eh there is several qualities of a good person. Niceness is one of them but being nice in itself is meaningless if the person is not considerate and caring. The whole confidence thing is highly overrated. You know whos confident? Abusive people, rapists, murderers. Yeah not really an intelligent or safe choice to focus so much on confidence.
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It depends. People will have to preferences for what type of guy they like, and jerks seem to come up often as their preference. Some people will prefer someone with a heart. Preferences are a thing.
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The whole confidence thing is highly overrated. You know whos confident? Abusive people, rapists, murderers. Yeah not really an intelligent or safe choice to focus so much on confidence.


So you're saying that the CEO of a Fortune 500 company should be timid and easily scared instead of being confident because confidence is overrated and you shouldn't focus a lot on it?

I just had the playback in my head about how that would go.

Tim Cook: "Introducing the new iPhone 7!"
Reporter: "Did you fix the Apple Maps issue?"
Tim Cook: "I'm only a man, okay?! GOSH! STOP CRITICIZING ME!" *runs and hides*
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
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kobun said:
That's because they don't even enter the damn race.
Of course, you're naturally gonna finish last.


This. It doesn't matter if you're a nice guy or not, if you're not gonna enter the race, then you're obviously gonna finish last.
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Not at all.

I find this statement ridiculous and pretty idiotic to be honest. If it were true, most girls would be in unhappy and probably abusive relationships, which I can gladly say is not the case.
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Oct 25, 2015 1:18 PM

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Betas finish last. Whether they are nice or not is irrelevant.
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TheBrainintheJar said:
mayukachan said:
The ones who are nice because they're naturally nice get girls. The ones who only do it for the pussy don't always win.


No. Girls don't like 'bad boys' either. Girls like sexy guys - good-looking guys who are a lot of fun. They can be good and they can be bad. All things being equal, being a good person is sexier than being an asshole. Still, it's not a factor.

The same goes for guys. Be a nice, sociable girl who cares about others but don't expect guys to be attracted to you because of that. It's a desirable quality, but not a sexy one.
I wasn't implying the opposite, lol. But yeah, I agree with what you said.
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mayukachan said:
TheBrainintheJar said:


No. Girls don't like 'bad boys' either. Girls like sexy guys - good-looking guys who are a lot of fun. They can be good and they can be bad. All things being equal, being a good person is sexier than being an asshole. Still, it's not a factor.

The same goes for guys. Be a nice, sociable girl who cares about others but don't expect guys to be attracted to you because of that. It's a desirable quality, but not a sexy one.
I wasn't implying the opposite, lol. But yeah, I agree with what you said.


I stand corrected, then.

It's important to be honest. Some attributes are desirable, but it doesn't make them sexually appealing. If it was so, the dating scene would've been radically different.
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Narmy said:
Betas finish last. Whether they are nice or not is irrelevant.


Beta girls are not attractive IMO

But to answer the original question, yea Nice guys do finish last

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traed said:
The whole confidence thing is highly overrated. You know whos confident? Abusive people, rapists, murderers. Yeah not really an intelligent or safe choice to focus so much on confidence.


So you're saying that the CEO of a Fortune 500 company should be timid and easily scared instead of being confident because confidence is overrated and you shouldn't focus a lot on it?

I just had the playback in my head about how that would go.

Tim Cook: "Introducing the new iPhone 7!"
Reporter: "Did you fix the Apple Maps issue?"
Tim Cook: "I'm only a man, okay?! GOSH! STOP CRITICIZING ME!" *runs and hides*
A lot of people dont even know what confidence is. People mistake arrogance for confidence and completely overlook any confidence someone actually has just because they are insecure or something. Self esteem is not confidence. Confidence and self esteem are meaningless in a relationship if the person is not caring, or considerate as well so those qualities are above it.

You cant use business example for dating when dating someone is not a business deal. Also someone's level of confidence does not indicate their actual skill level or quality either anyway. Look up the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
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