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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- BINGO~ Finally, the last episode. I like how the idols got all fired up and the audience is in tune with the anticipating performance. As for the episode itself, it had some fun outfits and stuff. I think the show tried to end everything in a fun style so it captured the point of that. Somehow, I liked the first season better though.  The music was okay. |
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| I need more Rin in my life. |
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| There's was a lot of cameos including a surprise appearance by Wakaba and Layla and it definitely had a solid happy ending, this ending was excellent especially considering how disastrous the direction was. The songs and performances were great with some funny moments like Sachiko's falling and the goofy outfits. I think this episode saved the anime. 7.5/10 |
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| Well, nothing much to say that everyone moving forward and try they best and everyone returns and Uzuki, Rin and Mio meeting again like that's so... You know. |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| A1 needs more animators |
| A lot more inferior than the original Idol Master. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| First season was alright. They sure did mess this one up though, showing all the lamest, fake and fickle sides of the idol industry. I like how the next batch of idols are already in the pipeline /sarcasm. Thank god I won't ever have to hear GANBARIMASUU! or EGAOZ! again. I'll miss Rin, Anzu & Ranko (the Funikura staff was one of the highlights of this episode). Sayonara girls! |
| My old Japan blog which I'm never going to finish: https://ramenshojo.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/day-6-nakano-broadway-harmonica-street-zauo-restaurant/ |
| It's me, or translation was just awful in this episode? Btw A1 did MUCH (much is not enough) better job in animation than Sunrise in LoveLive with their shitty 3D performances which caused eyebledding. I say it again, less (but good) = better. |
rsc-plOct 16, 2015 1:46 PM
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| I watched this show until the end and still don't know how i feel about the cast, the first group of idolm@ster is superior to this group in every way possible. Maybe was to much fairy-like to my tastes... |
| i can't help but feel like this would be so much better if the main focus wasn't always on new generations. the other girls really don't get enough attention compared to them and maybe i just don't like mio honda overall this was quite a good series but it's hard to not compare it to the idolm@ster which was just so much better with more memorable characters |
baoxiang008 said: A1 needs more animators Good luck with that A-1 is pretty much death row for animators. A-1 needs to change animator conditions before we see more animators. |
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Hoppy said: baoxiang008 said: A1 needs more animators Good luck with that A-1 is pretty much death row for animators. A-1 needs to change animator conditions before we see more animators. In my opinion the problem was much more the script-writing than than animation itself, the story was conducted like the fairy tale of "Cinderella", to me this was a very bad move in terms of pacing and runs away on context of backstage of idol groups with the first idolm@ster showed , the characters are ALL shallow and the cast is too Big to be conducted properly. |
| That? That was the culmination the the Cinderella Project? Their first concert together had way more impact. This series...sigh. Can't help but feel this got really really realllllly dragged out. Never really got into the cast from 346 Pro..at all really. I'm still sold on the 765 Pro cast and journey. This started off well enough in season one but again it just got really dragged out and didn't have any impact for me in the end. Zapredon said: A lot more inferior than the original Idol Master. Fact rsc-pl said: It's me, or translation was just awful in this episode? Down right awful. Every other line and no signs |
IZEROIIOct 16, 2015 6:54 PM
| Took long enough for this final episode, and the subs trolled me with those unfinished sentence! The episode is Ok, nothing special tbh. Too many good supporting cast that didn't get much focus. Yes, I'm talking about Miho and Kaede. I wished they focused more on other idols too in the 2nd season, but noooo... A1 pls. (7/10) for this. Overall, CG will never be as as good as the 2011 one, as I enjoyed the latter much more than this. Gloomy/heavy atmosphere in the 2nd cour not make this any better.. Also, REMOVE MIO AND I'LL GIVE THIS 10/10 |
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| I have been looking forward for the episode (Not because the show is good, but to get rid of it) and I find that they did a half-assed translation? I hope they fix the subs soon |
| I really enjoyed Uzuki's arc so I was expecting more out of the ending, and I was a little disappointed. It was nice seeing Uzuki move on from NGs though. I liked Rin until she joined TriPri, and I don't dislike Mio, but I don't like her either. Overall I think the show would've been better if certain characters got more screen time (Ranko, Anzu, etc) and maybe more performances would've been nice. (I would've liked to see Miku sing her song "Shall we?") |
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| I guess it was okay. But I felt pretty unsatisfied when I finished the episode... A few things that came to mind were that 1. On the series: there were too many supporting characters which were nice individually but were nothing more than nice given the resources allotted to them. Also divided time and attention away from the main 346 group. 2. On the episode/the series: this might just be me but I felt like going into the series with knowledge of the 765Pro Idolm@ster series really killed the sense of character relations? Like for 765 the character relations were pretty good but were growing thin near the end and that got turned into a plot point but 346 kinda addressed it only within the small groups (and then backtracked). Ex: Love Laika and New Gen semi-splitting up, and in the epilogue it stepped away from the original 346 groups to basically everybody working with a supporting character. 3. On the episode: Still frames and sorta unimportant/irrelevant shots, I take what I said about the dancing back, rather I feel it wasn't as dynamic as it could've been esp in comparison to the opening which I felt had more impact, Onegai! Cinderella (which I think is generally one of the better songs in the show) by the main cast gets a whopping 3 lines. Are the translations/subs the fault of the show? Idk but after HorribleSubs' didn't seem to be complete I went and watched M@GIC's 4. The witch/evil grandmother/chief director or something seemed to exist solely to do or cause everything that nobody wanted and then CONSIDER doing a 180 on her attitude in the last episode of the season. Like any effort towards her felt kinda wasted. |
AirToteOct 17, 2015 12:03 AM
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| Garbage and painful to watch. There's only one true IDOLM@STER. This was just some cheap, forced drama imitation. |
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| Meh show. The original iDOLM@STER is still the best idol show. 5.5/10 |
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Max said: Watch it legally instead of pirating and you won't experience any problems. Stop shit posting. Not everyone are from Murica, you know? There is no point of buying subscription if there is 1/10 available shows. If they stop the region block, I will buy subscription for sure. Max said: Amount of stills in this episode is utterly ridiculous. A1 needs to switch over to CGI already instead of pushing all of their work on Megumi Kouno. Still frames are still MUCH BETTER than any CG, CG is a shit in every possible way. I'm glad that they had done it in this way instead using super ugly CG. |
rsc-plOct 17, 2015 12:27 AM
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| Worst idol anime I ever had the misery of watching finally done with That's a load off my back |
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zerorequiem_ said: I need more Rin in my life. Summed up perfectly. Hmm, normal finale. Decent in that it wasn't fucked up, but other than that, rather plain and underwhelming. Nothing too great, nothing too bland, just normal. For the season itself, it had it's ups and downs (mostly downs). S1 was better though. Maybe because P-kun featured more in it? I swear, if it had focused more on P-kun, this show would've been MUCH better. Missed chance I guess. Some stuff felt... manufactured and shallow, mostly, the characters. Also, like Kyruga said, instead of focusing on the Cinderella motif, they should've focused on the idol theme more. Besides, the whole Cinderella thing is kinda cringey for me, as a guy. Maybe it could've worked out if presented in a unique way, but the way it was presented here was rather shallow. |
| Does anyone know the names of all the songs? Anyway, average last episode. The 2nd season had lots of drama and less songs and performances. I want more Rin, more Uzuki, more Anastasia, and more Ranko. I can completely say the first im@s is much better, much fun and entertaining than this. |
| An okay last ep, I still like the first Im@s to this though. The subs were bad on this one... |
"Fortress Maximus has come himself. Okay! Then I shall get Fortress Maximus to fight me, huh huh huh!" |
| Worst Dramafest i`ve ever watched, one of the worst Idol anime Ever! 765Pro will always be Superior 3/10 if Idolm@ster Million Live gets Anime adaptation, please don`t add some Dramafest. |
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| Really you guys, sometimes give praises sometimes say this is inferior. In the end everyone just make it underated, totally make it out become unwatchable. As someone who watched idolmaster and others idol anime like aikatsu, pripara, love live and many more - idolmaster cinderella is obviously above average. Everything is not about the dance and CGs, its the story if you guys ever paid any attention to the anime. Too many character, there is a limit in everything if you want more dancing/CGs. One guy here quote out: Worst idol anime I ever had the misery of watching finally done with. That's a load off my back. Seriously? Then i really must praise you with a medal for finishing every episodes. Well in the end everyone has their own like and dislike. Personally i like it very much especially Uzuki arc and the sum up of final episode. The philosophy of cinderella between P-kun and the female director is just so good, it makes me open my eyes, focusing on castle or dream. |
| mediocre ending, the second season/second cour has a lot of forced dramas. I still prefer the original idolm@ster. I could have dropped this if it wasn't for Rin, Ranko and Anastasia. |
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| watashi, Shimamura Uzuki, gambarimas ! |
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| Meh. You know, when seiyuu anime manages to be more interesting idol anime the the idol anime itself, it's clear that there's a problem. I liked Producer, I liked Mishiro, I even liked that old manager. But they were too good for this series. The girs themselves, who are supposed to have focus on are mostly boring or even annoying. There was a few good ones, like Anastasia and Ranko, but there was really not enough of them to save this series. 5/10. |
valvravetruth said: Story? You mean the forced drama bullshit?Really you guys, sometimes give praises sometimes say this is inferior. In the end everyone just make it underated, totally make it out become unwatchable. As someone who watched idolmaster and others idol anime like aikatsu, pripara, love live and many more - idolmaster cinderella is obviously above average. Everything is not about the dance and CGs, its the story if you guys ever paid any attention to the anime. Too many character, there is a limit in everything if you want more dancing/CGs. One guy here quote out: Worst idol anime I ever had the misery of watching finally done with. That's a load off my back. Seriously? Then i really must praise you with a medal for finishing every episodes. Well in the end everyone has their own like and dislike. Personally i like it very much especially Uzuki arc and the sum up of final episode. The philosophy of cinderella between P-kun and the female director is just so good, it makes me open my eyes, focusing on castle or dream. I'd rather pick my nose and scratch my ass. You know what? That's exactly what I did while watching this trainwreck. |
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| Mika and Smile-ducer are bes gurl, and Million Live! when? |
| While I didn't enjoy Cinderella Girls, I respect it for its intents. Admittedly, my initial approach was wrong. From the producer interviews, if this anime intended to be akin to a shoujo drama, then its overall feel and progression makes sense. At a time, I compared this to an all-girls school drama, but without the school and with male characters present. I feel more than ever that it's an accurate portrayal of Cinderella Girls, but just not to the standard of, say, Maria-sama ga Miteru. There's a lack of confidence and focus present. Cinderella Girls really hurt itself by trying to balance so many characters. I'm fine with the original iDOLM@STER, as I was fine with something like Negima. With so many characters, certain characters need to be sidelined in order to make way for the more important characters and characters with depth to work off of. Here, I can see the New Generation characters being pseudo-main characters, but they never really stood out. They never felt like the characters that had great potential, significance in the story, nor reason for being. I mean, these could very well be the intent of the show. They would be the "Cinderellas" that came from nothing and became something greater than themselves. Still, I never understood what the characters were working so hard for, as their reasons for being idols was never apparent. In addition, it's hard to understand the Cinderella stories of so many characters. To reinterpret Mishiro's comment on trying to make every girl successful, trying to make every girl a special snowflake does dilute the overall show. Giving every girl time in the spotlight is a nice sentiment, but while every character is shining, a more talented character wouldn't be able to shine as brilliantly as she could have. It's lost potential for the character and the show itself. That aside, I do recognize that this visibly looks shinier and smoother than the original. That's to be expected however, as it has been 4 years since then. If things looked the same, or worse even, then I'd have to deem the show a failure in terms of aesthetics. Other than that and the Cinderella theme, nothing else stood out for me. While watching the last episode, I kept thinking of Ookami-san and Her Seven Companions, and how different Cinderella Girls might have been if it was told with narrators. The moments with the book pages flipping was quite eye catching, and I wondered if applying this narrative approach to the whole show would have worked better. Say, each episode narrated by a character telling their own story. Some could be self-aware and break the 4th wall, while others would come across as a fairy tale come to life. With how predominant the clocks and "ordinary girl" motifs are, perhaps going all out with the metaphors instead of doing it halfway would make the show stronger and more poignant. But, for now, I feel that 765 Pro pulled off the Cinderella story better, as they, from the beginning to the end, had only that crapshack office to work from, spending an entire first season before achieving popularity through hard work. In Cinderella Girls, the initial success of the group came either too easily, such as with Mika's concert first concert, or came without or came without much impact. The groups, upon finally debuting, didn't seem too grateful for their opportunities. Yeah, they waited a long time for their chances, and they seemed to work hard to get those chances, but I suppose things just moved too quickly after the formations of New Generations and Love Laika. That being said, I did enjoy this second season more than the first. While I don't like overbearing drama, I do appreciate the greater focus. If the show's intent was to be a shoujo drama that referenced the Cinderella story, then by the end, it worked out fair enough. I just wish it didn't have such a reliance on character gimmicks, even if that was the only way to keep characters memorable in a short amount of time. |
| I know there is a problem with a show for me when I find myself trying so hard to enjoy it. I sense that's how many others felt as well. As soon as you have to try to find joy in a show, and it's not natural it's already a failure. I felt the show did way too much bouncing around to get to know any characters well. Even when episodes would fully focus on certain characters it never seemed to developed them in a meaningful way, in fact in the case of a few it make them less likable. I am really disappointed as I wanted to like this show so much, like many others who are fans of the original iDOLM@STER |
Yvese said: Garbage and painful to watch. There's only one true IDOLM@STER. This was just some cheap, forced drama imitation. BlackMalice said: Meh show. The original iDOLM@STER is still the best idol show. |
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| This episode would have been so much better if they didn't have Mishiro come in & fuck shit up. She introduced unneeded drama by trying to break up some the Cinderella Project units & slandering Uzuki. Not to mention she was a bitch till the end. I am happy the New Gen got to perform but I still hate Rin for the shit she did. New Gen > Triad Primus 6/10 |
| Despite all its' shortcomings, still loved it. |
| so it's end the show is not that bad but i still prefer the 1st idolmaster. |
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| i am pretty satissfied with episode 11 (uzuki arc), yet this final episode is kinda... mediocre. in spite of the tension that has been built from the previous arc some cons for this episode (IMO) - unproportional body when they dance the group songs - the group songs,which supposed be the ultimate song, doesnt have enought enjoyment. i like "Goin" better than the new songs "m@gic". and please do not make me compare it with song like "Rest@rt" or "ready and Change". its uncomparable - Too much New chara, - change of directors attitude are too abrupt. too suddent. the only plus of this time the story is: the clarity of the "continuation of what the idols will do in the future" (or perhaps, the result of "character development" of any character.maybe) oh and btw, it seems the word "genre" on the main page should be enlarged so that several people can view the genre of some anime. |
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- the group songs,which supposed be the ultimate song, doesnt have enought enjoyment. i like "Goin" better than the new songs "m@gic". and please do not make me compare it with song like "Rest@rt" or "ready and Change". its uncomparable I really wish they just used Shine! (maybe do a legit Star! Shine! special edition mix) and used m@gic as an insert song in the end. Seriously though, I think Shine is up there with Ready!! and Change!! |
| Okay I thought there was another episode after this one. Fml. Thoughts: party is too huge, every episode the anime shifts the focus to another character, which kind of killed it for me. If the show was only about new gen and maybe 3-4 people then it would have retain its magical feeling I got when I watched episode one. I mean, episode one is freaking amazing! Shimamura practising daily and rin with her daily 'mundane' life definitely fits the concept of Cinderella girls. Then comes the huge party and that instantly killed the magical feeling for me. Pushed uzuki's screen time sooooo far back I thought she became a side character. Anddd the uzuki arc almost saved the show but the last episode was just disappointing. I don't know why people say the first idolm@ster was better then Cinderella girls. Tried the first episode and it was weird though. Its like 20 full mins of introduction. Art style is not as beautiful and Cinderella girls had a perfect first episode IMO in terms of introduction. Don't know if I should continue.. Advice anyone? I will prob miss Cinderella girls even though I'm giving this a 5/10. My second idol show that I completed. First is wake up girls. I definitely prefer this than wug I guess but I'm starting to think there might be no good idol anime. Fav idols: Chieri, Minamura Kanako, Abe Nana, Uzuki, Rin. |
| I love most of the new outfits in this episode worn by everyone :) The ending with the glass slipper was kinda cheesy though, the show could have done better honestly. Even with the flaws, shows like these are the ones that I loved to slot in between all the other better series during my schedule as it relieves you from burnout :D Shows with too many characters aren't always going to score a high rating whether it's due to production value, storyline or others but one of the main problem is the screentime of the character as it's hard to balance out the spotlight for everyone. Normally I would recommend shows like this to have a lot more season to keep things less rushing but the problem is profit, the loss would be greater than the budget. |
ShanaFlameOct 19, 2015 8:05 AM
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| Shit anime, shit ending. |
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TokonatsuYuu said: I don't know why people say the first idolm@ster was better then Cinderella girls. Tried the first episode and it was weird though. Its like 20 full mins of introduction. Art style is not as beautiful and Cinderella girls had a perfect first episode IMO in terms of introduction. Don't know if I should continue.. Advice anyone? Better story arcs, better characters, and episode 20 |
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