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Apr 16, 2015 2:25 PM
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I thought Saber was only a side character in the second part of UBW, so I am a bit confused why she is listed as main in the cast. The main characters are: Shirou, Rin and Archer (Although Rin Route is only the first half of the route and Archer's is only the second half)

Can someone enlighten me on why?

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Apr 16, 2015 2:25 PM
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Lol, MAL.
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Apr 16, 2015 2:26 PM
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Because MAL and cashcow
Apr 16, 2015 2:27 PM
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nocorras said:
Because MAL and cashcow


As trainwrecky as this adaptation is even fucking miura and nasu understand that "Saber's only role in this is to look pretty, she is not part of the plot".

Bu marketing gotta market...
Apr 16, 2015 2:27 PM
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Cause MAL. She's not even more important than Caster in this half. About as relevant as Lancer, I'd say (if not a bit less).
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nocorras said:
Because MAL and cashcow


She's not a main for HF tho. *just checked*

jmcm30 said:
Cause MAL. She's not even more important than Caster in this half. About as relevant as Lancer, I'd say (if not a bit less).


Less relevant than Lancer, more relevant than Caster.
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Apr 16, 2015 2:28 PM
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Because she sells.
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mira-nyan said:
nocorras said:
Because MAL and cashcow


She's not a main for HF tho. *just checked*

jmcm30 said:
Cause MAL. She's not even more important than Caster in this half. About as relevant as Lancer, I'd say (if not a bit less).


Less relevant than Lancer, more relevant than Caster.


Pfft nah, Caster has a bigger role than Lancer in UBW any day, as amazing as he is. But yeah, the HF main characters on MAL are just about right.
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jmcm30 said:
mira-nyan said:


She's not a main for HF tho. *just checked*



Less relevant than Lancer, more relevant than Caster.


Pfft nah, Caster has a bigger role than Lancer in UBW any day, as amazing as he is. But yeah, the HF main characters on MAL are just about right.



But for HF, isn't Rider supposed to be a main character. Not only was she the servant that was there the most but she is best girl

Caster does have a bigger role than Lancer in UBW, I agree with what mira said. Saber didn't do so much in here after the prologue. Saber was only involved in fights, barely in the meat of the plot


Praland said:
Because she sells.


But...but she is only average. (Well, at least she isn't bad like one of the three heroine but she was at least interesting).



mira-nyan said:
Lol, MAL.
nocorras said:
Because MAL and cashcow


I'm starting to think that it is because of the Fate/Zero fans that just came out from Fate/Zero and expected her to be a main character in here too so they changed her to main character.
Apr 16, 2015 2:40 PM

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Mathias2001 said:

Praland said:
Because she sells.


But...but she is only average. (Well, at least she isn't bad like one of the three heroine but she was at least interesting).


Who are you, and why don't you know that Seiba is literally TM's best garu?

*Cough* I mean, it's all up to opinions. You think she's average, other don't.

And yes, Rider is the most relevant servant in HF, but she hardly has any depth apart from
. =3

Illya should be on the main character list in HF, tho. And overall Saber would be more important in the plot. Not because she is literally more important. But because she's Shirou's servant.
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Mathias2001 said:

Praland said:
Because she sells.
But...but she is only average. (Well, at least she isn't bad like one of the three heroine but she was at least interesting).

So?
She still sells.
Apr 16, 2015 2:49 PM

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Because the Fate franchise revolves around Saber.

She is the Queen of Type Moon
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Apr 16, 2015 2:50 PM

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>She is the Queen of Type Moon

Only because the Japanese have shit taste.
Apr 16, 2015 2:53 PM

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nocorras said:
>She is the Queen of Type Moon

Only because the Japanese have shit taste.

Then stop partaking in Japanese culture and go watch western stuff :P
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Apr 16, 2015 2:57 PM

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I'm not partaking in their culture. I'm watching an animu.
Apr 16, 2015 3:07 PM

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mira-nyan said:

Less relevant than Lancer, more relevant than Caster.

Nah, Caster's more relevant than either.
mira-nyan said:

Illya should be on the main character list in HF, tho.

She is.
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nocorras said:
I'm not partaking in their culture. I'm watching an animu.

Nooooh............ u baitin :P
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Apr 16, 2015 3:22 PM

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Anime isn't Japanese culture.
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nocorras said:
>She is the Queen of Type Moon

Only because the Japanese have shit taste.


The Japanese are actually way more fun than the English and Americans. =3
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Mickdrew said:
Because the Fate franchise revolves around Saber.

She is the Queen of Type Moon


Too much of Saber and Gil in TM.
Apr 16, 2015 4:38 PM

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nocorras said:
>She is the Queen of Type Moon

Only because the Japanese have shit taste.
like you're one to talk
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Apr 16, 2015 4:44 PM

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MyNameIsJeff said:
nocorras said:
>She is the Queen of Type Moon

Only because the Japanese have shit taste.
like you're one to talk


best maid


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nocorras said:
MyNameIsJeff said:
like you're one to talk


best maid


indeed
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Apr 16, 2015 5:16 PM

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Well, she is important near the end of the route.

In fact I'd say that in importance she is behind only Shirou. Archer and Rin
Apr 16, 2015 11:06 PM

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nocorras said:
Because MAL and cashcow


nuff said
Apr 17, 2015 12:36 AM

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nocorras said:
Because MAL and cashcow


/topic.
Apr 17, 2015 12:57 AM
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Are you implying MAL's data is always 100% accurate?
Apr 17, 2015 1:35 AM

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MightyM16 said:
Well, she is important near the end of the route.

In fact I'd say that in importance she is behind only Shirou. Archer and Rin


Yeah no. ]

UBw importance:
1. Shirou.
2. Archer.
3. Rin.
4. Caster
5. Goldie
6. Lancer
...
9. Saber
10. Rider
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CookingPriest said:
MightyM16 said:
Well, she is important near the end of the route.

In fact I'd say that in importance she is behind only Shirou. Archer and Rin


Yeah no. ]

UBw importance:
1. Shirou.
2. Archer.
3. Rin.
4. Caster
5. Goldie
6. Lancer
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9. Saber
10. Rider
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37. Shinji's hair
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110287635221319832. Fai's Opinion


:D
Apr 17, 2015 2:26 AM

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Indirect spoilers are a thing, yo.
Apr 17, 2015 2:39 AM

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WrongPriest said:
CookingPriest said:


Yeah no. ]

UBw importance:
1. Shirou.
2. Archer.
3. Rin.
4. Caster
5. Goldie
6. Lancer
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9. Saber
10. Rider
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37. Shinji's hair
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110287635221319832. Fai's Opinion
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310287635221319832. Wrong's opinion on Fai's Opinion


:D

:D
Apr 17, 2015 2:42 AM
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Well.. I walked right into that one.
Apr 17, 2015 2:48 AM

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nocorras said:
Because MAL and cashcow


Can't be more accurate
Apr 17, 2015 2:54 AM

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WrongPriest said:
Well.. I walked right into that one.


Walking into things is bad for your health
Just ask Sakura
Apr 17, 2015 2:56 AM

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WrongPriest said:
Well.. I walked right into that one.


Oh..poor Wrong ..lel
Apr 17, 2015 6:22 AM
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CookingPriest said:
WrongPriest said:
Well.. I walked right into that one.


Walking into things is bad for your health
Just ask Sakura


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CookingPriest said:
MightyM16 said:
Well, she is important near the end of the route.

In fact I'd say that in importance she is behind only Shirou. Archer and Rin


Yeah no. ]

UBw importance:
1. Shirou.
2. Archer.
3. Rin.
4. Caster
5. Goldie
6. Lancer
...
9. Saber
10. Rider


Who are 7 and 8?

But really I don't agree with this list.
Maybe the UBW I read was different than what you read.

Srsly, she ranks up there as 4th or 5th important character

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MightyM16 said:
CookingPriest said:


Yeah no. ]

UBw importance:
1. Shirou.
2. Archer.
3. Rin.
4. Caster
5. Goldie
6. Lancer
...
9. Saber
10. Rider


Who are 7 and 8?

But really I don't agree with this list.
Maybe the UBW I read was different than what you read.

Srsly, she ranks up there as 4th or 5th important character


Me expects Nasu-written back story.

And Unlimited
Works
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Apr 17, 2015 8:35 AM

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MightyM16 said:
CookingPriest said:


Yeah no. ]

UBw importance:
1. Shirou.
2. Archer.
3. Rin.
4. Caster
5. Goldie
6. Lancer
...
9. Saber
10. Rider


Who are 7 and 8?

But really I don't agree with this list.
Maybe the UBW I read was different than what you read.

Srsly, she ranks up there as 4th or 5th important character



Yeah no.

Caster is one of THE deepest and most morally complex characters in whole FSN. Majority of UBW's worth is due to her personality and depth.

Lancer has way less focus than her, but still way above Seiba whose main role is just to look pretty and serve as plot device.

WrongPriest said:
CookingPriest said:


Walking into things is bad for your health
Just ask Sakura




Enuma Elish, madafaka.
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They could replace her with Gil,i guess
CookingPriest said:

Caster is one of THE deepest and most morally complex characters in whole FSN. Majority of UBW's worth is due to her personality and depth.

Lancer has way less focus than her, but still way above Seiba whose main role is just to look pretty and serve as plot device.



especially @thebold,jesus christ
Apr 17, 2015 10:20 AM

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Nice strawman, bruh
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CookingPriest said:
MightyM16 said:


Who are 7 and 8?

But really I don't agree with this list.
Maybe the UBW I read was different than what you read.

Srsly, she ranks up there as 4th or 5th important character



Yeah no.

Caster is one of THE deepest and most morally complex characters in whole FSN. Majority of UBW's worth is due to her personality and depth.

Lancer has way less focus than her, but still way above Seiba whose main role is just to look pretty and serve as plot device.



I said I can somewhat see Caster as the 4th more important, but her individual development and backstory has little to do with the theme of the route overall.

Lancer appears just to fight, be
, not much depth, we get this in HA

Oh you were talking about the UBW anime? I was talking about the VN so I guess it was just a double misunderstanding. Indeed, in the anime Nasu said that, but you are missing context too

And calling characters plot device is so overrated, m8
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CookingPriest said:
WrongPriest said:




Enuma Elish, madafaka.


U W0T M8

Excalibur >>>>>>>>>>> TYPES


Remember that.
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CookingPriest said:
Nice strawman, bruh

It wasn't even a strawman.

Just me being conceited and laughing at your opinion.


I said I can somewhat see Caster as the 4th more important,

That's Gil.
Apr 17, 2015 11:47 AM

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Its not an opinion its the fact.


Gil matters more in Fate tbh than in UBW. He is an "obstacle" at most. Caster has strong characterization.
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CookingPriest said:
Its not an opinion its the fact.

It's a fact that it's your opinion


He is an "obstacle" at most.

Same as Caster,only he's actually threatening.



Caster has strong characterization.

Cool opinion.
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Nice strawmen, again. Sadly too low rank. Bait more to level up.
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Saber doesn't do shit in ubw

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Shrimperor said:
Saber doesn't do shit in ubw



Your wrong
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Because the glory of Best Treasure shines regardless of her role.
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