| You put Bleach over Dragon Ball Z?!! DBZ is the pioneer. Idk Bout Super But DBZ Is always gonna be in the top 3 yall Tripping. |
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| Highly depends on how well they utilize the old formula and improve upon it. Jujutsu Kaisen is a good example of what modern shonen can achieve and is better than most older generation shonens. |
| I love them, but they ain't shit compared to the OGs. I can get so invested in the OG worlds (Dragon Ball, One Piece, Bleach)... but I can never find the same investment in modern battle shounen. Demon Slayer, Nanatsu no Taizai and Jujutsu Kaisen are just "decent" to me. Don't get me wrong, I think they're good, but on a personal level, I will never have the same investment I did in the OGs. They just don't have the same feeling on interest I do from the OGs It has nothing to do with when I watched them either, since I only started Dragon Ball Z last week, and I started One Piece/Bleach the same time I did with stuff like MHA and Nanatsu no Taizai. |
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| Old shounen > new shounen in every way except animation. |
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| None at Naruto or One Piece level (I didn't watch enough of Bleach to form an opinion). Not a single aspect done better if we exclude animation quality obviously. Stories aren't as compelling, characters aren't as inspirational and music as well as voice performances aren't as impactful. It's even more embarrassing compared to Dragon Ball, Yuu☆Yuu☆Hakusho or Rurouni Kenshin: Meiji Kenkaku Romantan level. |
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Jbril said: Here is the list I operate on: Big 3 of the 10s MHA Demon Slayer AOT Big 3 of the 00s Naruto Bleach One Piece The transitioning period, late 90s to mid 00s big 3 Yu-Gi-Oh Pokemon Digimon Big 3 of the 90s DBZ Rurouni Kenshin Yu Yu Hakusho Big 3 of the 80s Saint Seiya Dragon Ball Hokuto no Ken Shadow Titles HxH JoJo FMA problems? There is only one big three in manga. |
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Deathlydash said: how are naruto characters inspiring? Naruto has many problems, one of them being messy characterization at times when it comes to main characters, but if you take a look beyond them, you find characters like Pain, Itachi, Jiraiya, Minato or Kakashi who make the whole cast of those modern Shounen anime seem like babies. And I'm not talking about age nor muscles. |
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| Lol you just awakened those generic old anime>new anime thinkers. |
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| Read the Pain Arc and experienced how Jiraiya was one of the finest ninja. Never have had that feeling again, even with Attack on Titans, DBZ and Nar istelf. |
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DeepRiver said: I feel this is extremely biased tho. I think you can find characters as inspiring in modern shonens as well, such as All Might, Endeavor, Mirio (MHA), Rengoku (KnY), Yami Sukehiro (Black Clover) Nanami (JJK) and so on. Of course, it's definitely according to my opinion. That's what was asked. But I actually gave many of those modern Shounen anime a chance too and even enjoyed them at times. It's not like I just want to hate what's popular and stay blinded by nostalgia. I'm as critical when it comes to the older ones (Dragon Ball being the only exception because it means much more to me). Also, among the characters you mentioned, only All Might is passable, but Boku no Hero Academia seems to enjoy destroying the few good characters it has, although this is another subject. I guess Yami is likeable too. No comment about the others because people won't be able to discern disliking from hating. |
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| I remember when big 3 meant Sailor Moon, DBZ and Pokemon I think I am just not the target audience anymore. And I’ve always preferred the more adventure-based shonen like original Dragonball and Inuyasha. |
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| Older ones are much better than the newer ones story wise and character wise. |
SgtBaitMan said: Read the Pain Arc and experienced how Jiraiya was one of the finest ninja. That's not kind. Make a fairer comparison. Not with one of the best arcs in manga history. |
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Mirabem said: SgtBaitMan said: Read the Pain Arc and experienced how Jiraiya was one of the finest ninja. That's not kind. Make a fairer comparison. Not with one of the best arcs in manga history. There are the rest of my words. They'll explain everything. It's the peak of Naruto, so of course the development ended there. |
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Mirabem said: SgtBaitMan said: Read the Pain Arc and experienced how Jiraiya was one of the finest ninja. That's not kind. Make a fairer comparison. Not with one of the best arcs in manga history. By the way, the Chunin Exam arc was hell of a ride too. Jujutsu Kaisen? No. |
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| They're kinda just the same but higher quality Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
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SgtBaitMan said: Mirabem said: That's not kind. Make a fairer comparison. Not with one of the best arcs in manga history. It's the peak of Naruto, so of course the development ended there. Agreed. Naruto lost itself quite a few times after that and never reached such level again. SgtBaitMan said: By the way, the Chunin Exam arc was hell of a ride too. Definitely, Orochimaru in the shadows, Lee opening the gates, Shikamaru's big brain, etc. One hell of a ride. |
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| Both are good. newer ones are more refined, but unoriginal older ones are less refined but feels more original. I like naruto doesn't mean I can't like MHA too So yeah both are pretty good. |
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| on god jujutsu fanboys are the new mha kind of fanboy, I wish they could be more self-aware like Demon slayer, TPN, Fire Force or Dr Stone fandoms to name a few... |
KingCanute said: no, it feels like they are the new HXH fandom LOLon god jujutsu fanboys are the new mha kind of fanboy, I wish they could be more self-aware like Demon slayer, TPN, Fire Force or Dr Stone fandoms to name a few... |
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| I wouldn't know. I don't watch a lot of battle shounen anymore. |
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Energetic-Nova said: You went for the only battle shounen I gave a 10? sooo badass D:KingCanute said: no, it feels like they are the new HXH fandom LOLon god jujutsu fanboys are the new mha kind of fanboy, I wish they could be more self-aware like Demon slayer, TPN, Fire Force or Dr Stone fandoms to name a few... |
| look my guy Imma say something "You may delay, but time will not" Everything has its own era, take DB brings back good memories but if I compare it as if I watched it for the first time now it wouldn't have the same effect. The big 3, Naruto, One-piece, and bleach Just compare one piece now to 12years ago, this time we live in now is heavily based on quality and not quantity. We expect perfection, not random things. Bleach coming back sooner or later and it's gonna be a blast with the new technics and helpful devices. Lastly, Naruto.... just look at Boruto it's basically naruto but the shittier story. I won't deny that old anime made my childhood and I have respect for them but the new animes are better for the most part. example JJK, Vinland saga, YLIA, aot and many many more. |
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| Both Jujutsu Kaisen and Kimetsu are better than Naruto and Bleach. I don't know about One Piece |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Kafka, Fu Xuan, Jingliu, Topaz and Huohuo. |
It's overall an easier experience watching battle shounens nowadays, because:
But, at the same time, I feel that these animes became less epic and engaging in some aspects. I doubt I could keep sitting through countless fillers and wastes of time only to get to the good parts of MHA and JJK, the same way I could for Naruto and Bleach. I don't know, maybe it's because of my age and that I got burnt out of it too. |
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| if there's anime that is on the level of one piece, tell me. (those who watched one piece know what i means, those who'r gonna reply to me "sure there is man! you blind as##@E" are just show off) |
| I mean, reaching the level of Bleach or Fairy Tail isn't that hard...Naruto and One Piece are quite a bit better by comparison. I haven't seen all of the stuff from the new kids on the block but what I can say in general is that their anime adaptations are A LOT better than the older ones. As for the quality of the source material itself, well I don't know them all but from the ones I've seen, I don't think they always reach the same quality in writing but they're not bad as far as I can tell. They have their own interesting ideas even if they stumble a bit in presenting them. Take My Hero Academia, I dropped it because it just wasn't my thing but the idea behind it with a story of the second generation of super heroes influenced by the greats instead of building from scratch is not bad, quite good in fact. I don't think it was necessarily presented very well but that happens. Maybe the writer just needs to grow a bit more. |
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KingCanute said: Energetic-Nova said: You went for the only battle shounen I gave a 10? sooo badass D:no, it feels like they are the new HXH fandom LOL 😂 Every shounen fan thinks they are above their show being labeled a shounen. The only ones that don’t have this issues are ones like Inuyasha where people are convinced it is a shoujo. |
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