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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Wow, it was amazing, confirmation that Yona is really the reincarnation of the red dragon, confirmation that zeno is really inmortal and learning all that story about them all, it was awesome. I am starting to think Soo-Won is the sword and hak the shield, I know Zeno said he was a shiel for yona, but I think he meant that his job was not fighting but to protect her, I don't think he is THE shield the gods were talking about. I think Soo-Won is the sword, bc Soo-Won recognized that the kingdom needed a leader, someone who would make the kingdom stronger. And that is why he is the red dragon's sword, since he is rebuilding the kingdom and not letting his feelings stop him for what is good for his kingdom. And Hak as the shield, since Hak has been protecting Yona from Soo-Won and any other thing, that comes around. It is my believe that Yona is going to end up reconciling with Soo-won as a friend, since he is saving her kingdom, and the three of them will discover what happen in the past between Yona's father and Soo-Won's father. |
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
| Damn this is so sad, watching his comrades grow old and his friends die one by one. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
heartofthecards said: GAHH i caught up in the manga. so sad that i have to wait now. I was hoping the manga would wrap up soon but at this pace we have many more years left! This is a good and a bad thing for me. anyways I predict that Soowon was actually ordered by the king himself to kill him. It only makes sense to me. The King probably had a plan in motion and entrusted soowoon to fulfill it. I think that would explain why the king was so hesitant with letting yona marry soowoon bc he knew that he was die by his hands that night. Either that or the King always knew that Soowoon would kill him and was prepared to die. The King had to know, otherwise he would never have had that dead giveaway reaction to the marriage proposal. I believe is more than that. I think the king knew the true nature of Soo-Won, for all his smiles and naive look, he knew his brother's son was in there. I also think that Yona was recognized as the red dragon since she was a baby, and that's why he forbid her to use weapons and chased away the priests who talked to the gods, maybe they predicted that since the red dragon was born though time will come, that, that was the dragon's prophecy, maybe that is why he wanted to keep things peaceful. Also I believe the brother opposed this, and even maybe tried to use baby Yona. So he killed him, and as you said, maybe he knew Soo-Won would come for him one day, and wanted Yona to protect her from the ruthlessness of Soo-Won. Just pure conjecture :p |
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
| The feels in this chapter. If people thought that Shin-ah's backstory was heartbreaking, how about in this one? |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
| zeno has been through a lot :/ and i realize how zeno would normally refer to himself in third person, but in this chapter he refers to himself in first person, i wonder what made him change the way he spoke? and i believe that king hiryuu had some attachment to zeno, probably because he knew having the power of immortality would be pretty bad and zeno had been the one to get the power, and when zeno said that the things he had been experiencing as part of being immortal was disgusting really hurt hiryuu eventually leading to his death which is heartbreaking enough :( poor zeno :( |
| Damn, I feel bad for Zenos... The dude needs a hug and honestly, I think he's been through quite a bit up to this point in the story. Still felt bad for him. |
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| Just updated on kissmanga. Pretty good chapter learning more of the backstory of the mysterious Zeno, pretty sad backstory. |
| Zeno.... :3 |
 Forum set made by my secret santa, Nate! |
| Zeno's past is really sad.... :( |
SkullcrusherSep 8, 2015 12:17 AM
| Zeno's background is such a heartbreaker ;_; I just can't believe he has lived for so long, knowing he won't ever die and knowing his friends all died at some point. |
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| Zeno!! T^T I guess that answered my question from last chap. He learned the hard way. Going in facing off armies by himself. GODDAMMIT this is sad. I can see why this arc has been hyped so much. It's totally living up to hype. Zeno living these 2k years alone waiting for the reincarnation of Hiryuu is so friggin cruel. I just can't wait to see how he reacted when he first felt Yona's presence. Dat Zeno standing in front of an army page was epic and so depressing ;_; I'm still wondering tho. Is Yona blood related to Hiryuu? Is she a descendant? And when did Zeno just leave the Hiryuu castle and start on his journey? And how Soo-won plays into this since he is technically related to Yona by blood |
Barion-ZaraSep 8, 2015 8:18 AM
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| Beautiful. My feels were hit... Now, I'm kind of glad that they waited to do Zeno's proper background until later on. It really paints him in a different light (in addition to his "fighting" in the previous chapters). He da man. If only this could be translated faster (and a second season would be confirmed for the anime already). |
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| I wasn't expecting to be hit in the feels like this. Damn. ;__; |
| That was simply sad, poor Zeno. Though I believe that when the current red dragon reincarnation does her job, he will be able to die. |
| Tragic doesn't even begin to describe what Zena had to went through...holy shit. |
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| Goddammit there are tears in my eyes now... Amazing chapter, I loved seeing Hiryuu and the other first generation dragons. But seeing Zeno who's normally so cheerful cry and scream like that broke my heart... TT~TT By the way, is it just me or does Hiryuu look like a red-headed Soo-won? |
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| These past two chapters were too sad man :( |
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| THAT WAS HEARTBREAKING. Zeno's always so happy and cheerful, but oh my god that hit me right in the feels. How's everyone reading this so quickly???? |
| Heartwrenching. Zenooooo~ *speechless* I already loved you but with these past chapters, i love you even more. I hope this time you will enjoy your adventures and may you find your peace along with this group. |
inn0centdem0nSep 19, 2015 3:32 AM
| T______T |
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| Crying so hard right now for Zeno. Immortality is always a sad subject to explore, and I think Kusanagi did it just as well as the others I've read/seen has done (if not better). Zeno's emotions were conveyed so clearly in this chapter, how everyone left and said that one day they'll return to Heaven like King Hiryuu did, but Zeno knew he would be the only one who wouldn't. And it just gets more and more heartbreaking, as Zeno feels his friends' heartbeats growing weaker, and knowing when one passes away. He kept Guen waiting too long, but I think it's understandable. Being with them and seeing them grow older and weaker would be a constant reminder to Zeno of his immortality. But at the end, I think Zeno felt regret, for not ever seeing them again. It was also really sad Zeno was the one taking care of the "small" skirmishes. They weren't small...he was going against troops! This chapter was evidence that I was right to feel that it was tragic when Zeno said that he had all the time in the world to fight. Because that's really what he was doing for a long time, fighting alone on the battlefield. |
| This was so heartbreaking. I cried heavily throughout the chapter. The anguish he must have felt really broke me :'( |
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| What a heart-wrenching chapter... Zeno's crying out at the very end nearly broke me. :'( He may be my favorite dragon at this point now, gahh. I can't even imagine the pain and despair that he went through, yet he still manages to have such a bright personality. I suppose that explains his sunny disposition. Loving this arc, can't wait to see the OVAs. |
| I love seeing other side of zeno Can't imagine what is like to live 2000+ years |
| Saddest and best chapter in the manga. The guilt of never dying paired with feeling useful until everyone else died. Not wanting to visit his brothers to be confronted with the fact that they die while he's forever immortal. |
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