| I was re-watching some of Satoshi Kon's works and Chihayafuru, and was struck how magical seems they are. All of Satoshi Kon's works were animated by Madhouse and they featured some of the most brilliant animations I have ever seen. The dream sequence in Paprika is so realistic that it so anachronistic at the same time. Now, I realize, with the exception of Studio Ghibli, all of my favorite works were done by Madhouse.. Let's see: Paprika, Perfect Blue, Millennium Actress, Hunter x Hunter (2011), Tatami Galaxy, Death Note, Paranoia Agent, Wolf Children, Rainbow, The Girl Who Leap Through Time, Beck, Trigun, Aoi Bungako, CardCaptor Sakura, Dennou Coil It seems that Madhouse consistent animation and high artistic aspirations give us some of the better anime in recent years. (OOT: Perhaps, if KyoAni could equal their high artistic aspirations with their impressive animation, they could create an equal of MH masterpiece). That is not to say that all MH works are good (Mahouka, comes to mind), but compared to Pierrot and Toei, MH is arguably more consistent and better in producing masterpieces. What makes Madhouse so special? From: http://www.animationcareerreview.com/articles/top-100-most-influential-animation-studios-all-time?page=0,9 Madhouse - Madhouse has carried the anime industry on its back for four decades as it created over 200 monumental movies and fully fleshed TV series. It’s not them standing on the shoulders of giants, it’s giants hanging from their colossal shoulders. I can and will list pivotal titles like Akagi, Battle Angel, Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad, Beybalde, Cardcaptor Sakura, Claymore, Death Note, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, Gungrave, Kaiji, Metropolis, Millennium Actress, Monster, Ninja Scroll, Paprika, Paranoia Agent, Perfect Blue, Rideback, Summer Wars, Texhnolyze, Tokyo Godfathers, Trigun, and Vampire Hunter D, but I’m still omitting dozens of highly acclaimed classics that pushed the anime industry ahead in respect, acceptance, and global influence. If you were to divide the anime industry into ten tiers, the third tier would be filled with studios I’ve already highlighted, the second tier would be empty, and Madhouse would be alone at the top. Fun fact: If you’re reading this list thinking who in the world watches anime and reads manga, well besides millions of people across the globe, so does James Cameron. Also, Satoshi Kon’s Madhouse films have influenced a few of Darren Aronofsky’s films, and even Christopher Nolan’s Inception. Rest in peace, Satoshi. |
peeyajOct 7, 2014 9:11 PM
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
| Nothing. Other studios have their share of masterpieces as well. |
| Their Based/Sasuga Madhouse animation of course |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
| Madhouse's large range of appeal generally stems from the fact that for better or worse they're not afraid to produce anything of any genre. |
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| they also made these http://myanimelist.net/anime/6875/Iron_Man http://myanimelist.net/anime/6918/Wolverine http://myanimelist.net/anime/6919/X-Men http://myanimelist.net/anime/6920/Blade |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
hazerddex said: they also made these http://myanimelist.net/anime/6875/Iron_Man http://myanimelist.net/anime/6918/Wolverine http://myanimelist.net/anime/6919/X-Men http://myanimelist.net/anime/6920/Blade Fucking disgusting. |
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| most of what you said are movies though, even Toei animation studio has high production values when it comes to making movies when it comes to animation i judge a studio base on their TV anime works, and i can say that Kyoto Animation and P.A. Works and Ufotable are consistent with high quality TV animation |
| Fantastic animation. Also, good at adapting the original material. |
| I forgot to add the masterpiece: Monster. |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
mayukachan said: Fantastic animation. Also, good at adapting the original material. not really Chaos;Head adaptation of Madhouse was bad and Needless do have average animation quality |
| From the title I thought you were asking the readers what made Madhouse special, but ithe thread is just more Madhouse wank. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
VudisOct 9, 2014 8:49 AM
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| Because even their stupid fanservice anime have better quality than other studio's best works. And they make the best animes ever; HxH namely. |
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mayukachan said: Fantastic animation. Also, good at adapting the original material. The Trigun adaptation definitely did not stay true to the manga. |
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I like how the president of Madhouse cares about the audience overseas |
| The brilliant ways in which they manage to make perfectly fine source material flop in sales as shoddy late night adaptations. Sure, they make some pretty cute commercials, but until I see some rather lucrative sales figures I wouldn't exactly call them special. |
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jayss said: I like how the president of Madhouse cares about the audience overseas Nice vid. Make sme think that they are not some like money grubbing studio that starts with a T. Little sad about satoshi Kon's Dreaming Machine though. |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
YorozuyaGinSan said: The brilliant ways in which they manage to make perfectly fine source material flop in sales as shoddy late night adaptations. Sure, they make some pretty cute commercials, but until I see some rather lucrative sales figures I wouldn't exactly call them special. that too, madhouse almost got bankcrupt because of this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masao_Maruyama_(film_producer) and now that guy has made MAPPA and are not doing good commercially too, and madhouse is now owned by another company - http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=284403 the sales of their anime are not that ground breaking, i yet to see 50,000 average disc sales for madhouse made anime series |
| I'm also a fan of Madhouse and Satoshi Kon (RIP). To the list you posted at the top I would also add Kaiji and Akagi. However, I don't believe there is any secret formula here. As you noted, they still have their share of duds, like any studio does. They simply tend to produce more mature, interesting works, on average, and pander to the otaku/moe crowd less. It's that simple. |
YoungVagabond said: They simply tend to produce more mature, interesting works, on average, and pander to the otaku/moe crowd less. It's that simple. i agree to that and that maybe also the reason why their disc sales or their profit is low |
| Great animation usually, and they choose fantastic source material. |
YorozuyaGinSan said: The brilliant ways in which they manage to make perfectly fine source material flop in sales as shoddy late night adaptations. Sure, they make some pretty cute commercials, but until I see some rather lucrative sales figures I wouldn't exactly call them special. we know you don't pay any mind to cartoons anyway boo |
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| They're good no doubt, but I hate how many of their TV animations go unfinished with a much needed second season. |
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Protaku94 said: most anime in general end up like that well atlest the ones iv seenThey're good no doubt, but I hate how many of their TV animations go unfinished with a much needed second season. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
hazerddex said: I still can't forgive them for not giving Btooom a second season. Thats the biggest victim here.Protaku94 said: most anime in general end up like that well atlest the ones iv seenThey're good no doubt, but I hate how many of their TV animations go unfinished with a much needed second season. |
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j0x said: mayukachan said: Fantastic animation. Also, good at adapting the original material. not really Chaos;Head adaptation of Madhouse was bad and Needless do have average animation quality I'm referring to the better ones, of course. Chihayafuru, Hunter x Hunter, Diamond no Ace, Hajime no Ippo, One Outs... |
| Good in adapting manga but destroying light novel adaptations one at a time. |
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Protaku94 said: hazerddex said: I still can't forgive them for not giving Btooom a second season. Thats the biggest victim here.most anime in general end up like that well atlest the ones iv seen idk i can name some other big victims spice and wolf, pandora hearts, Medaka Box dear god talk about an awkward place to leave off. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
j0x said: YoungVagabond said: They simply tend to produce more mature, interesting works, on average, and pander to the otaku/moe crowd less. It's that simple. i agree to that and that maybe also the reason why their disc sales or their profit is low That's very possible! |
| I don't know about all this other shit, I just want Claymore rebooted with NGNL's budget. Make it happen Madhouse. You can be the next SnK. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
| They had a boss (Maruyama) who has a high opinion of anime in the sense that it can be an artistic and an entertainment medium at the same time. Things like Kaiba and Redline would have never been produced by anyone else but Madhouse. Now Murayama quitted Madhouse and founded MAPPA and we are already seeing the effect of this : MAPPA is making some of the most original productions this year (Bahamut, Garo, ZnTerror), while Madhouse is doing Hanayamata and NGNL. |
OkiuraOct 8, 2014 1:58 AM
MiniSiets said: I don't know about all this other shit, I just want Claymore rebooted with NGNL's budget. Make it happen Madhouse. You can be the next SnK. As depressing as it is for me to type it out...I actually think Claymore (up to where I have read in the manga) is a little too intricate and smart of a shounen to attain blockbuster appeal nowadays. |
| Nothing. I don't particular care for them. j0x said: YoungVagabond said: They simply tend to produce more mature, interesting works, on average, and pander to the otaku/moe crowd less. It's that simple. i agree to that and that maybe also the reason why their disc sales or their profit is low Yes, and using this logic Toei is poor as shit, because it doesn't pander to ''otakus'' as well. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
VudisOct 9, 2014 8:59 AM
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| Yuasa Satoshi Kon |
CabronOct 8, 2014 2:10 AM
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| every studio is special in their own ways <3 |
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tsudecimo said: j0x said: i agree to that and that maybe also the reason why their disc sales or their profit is low Yes, and using this logic Toei is poor as shit, because it doesn't pander to ''otakus'' as well. i know that Toei is one of the richest anime studio around, they mostly profit from merchandise and TV ratings anyway, i just take that logic as to why Madhouse almost went bankrupt because they rely on disc sales solely because their anime mostly air on late night time slot |
tsudecimo said: j0x said: i agree to that and that maybe also the reason why their disc sales or their profit is low Yes, and using this logic Toei is poor as shit, because it doesn't pander to ''otakus'' as well. Even ignoring all their massively successful non-anime shows and movies and their many iconic shounen series like Dragonball, we're talking about the same studio that produced Sailor Moon, Air, and Clannad, all of which pander to otaku in a big way, and the latter two which fall squarely in the moe genre. Compare that to Madhouse, which doesn't have any similar series. (In fact, I'm struggling to think of any show they produced that featured supposedly 18 year-old girls with the bodies of 8 year-olds, giant saucer eyes, and no nose) |
YoungVagabondOct 8, 2014 2:12 AM
| Well they are responsible for some of the best recent anime titles ever imho :Kaiji,Monster,Nana,Texhnolyze,HunterXHunter... ,but lets be honest a lot of that merit goes to the source material and the people involved.They very rarely do anything different with the manga series they adapt. Or in the case of Kaiba/Kemonozume/Tatami Galaxy almost all the credit goes exclusively to the director/writer Masaaki Yuasa. More recently they have been responsible for a lot of complete trash titles,but the same can be said about very anime studio out there. |
amateurOct 8, 2014 2:20 AM
YoungVagabond said: tsudecimo said: Yes, and using this logic Toei is poor as shit, because it doesn't pander to ''otakus'' as well. Even ignoring all their massively successful non-anime shows and movies and their many iconic shounen series like Dragonball, we're talking about the same studio that produced Sailor Moon, Air, and Clannad, all of which pander to otaku in a big way, and the latter two which fall squarely in the moe genre. Compare that to Madhouse, which doesn't have any similar series. (In fact, I'm struggling to think of any show they produced that featured supposedly 18 year-old girls with the bodies of 8 year-olds, giant saucer eyes, and no nose) Lol, the wank is real. No Game No Life. Highschool of the dead, Chaos;head, Ichigo 100%, Needless, PhotoKano, etc. All fall in that made up category of ''pandering''. I'm also not sure, how Sailor Moon is pandered to Otaku, when it's the equivalent of Dragonball for Shoujo. |
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amateur said: Or in the case of Kaiba/Kemonozume/Tatami Galaxy almost all the credit goes exclusively to the director/writer Masaaki Yuasa. Making anime needs money and manpower. The credits go also to Madhouse's producers for giving him the freedom to do what he wants and financing it. |
Okiura said: amateur said: Or in the case of Kaiba/Kemonozume/Tatami Galaxy almost all the credit goes exclusively to the director/writer Masaaki Yuasa. Making anime needs money and manpower. The credits go also to Madhouse's producers for giving him the freedom to do what he wants and financing it. I know that very well,just pointing out that "credit should be made where credit is due". |
amateur said: Okiura said: Making anime needs money and manpower. The credits go also to Madhouse's producers for giving him the freedom to do what he wants and financing it. I know that very well,just pointing out that "credit should be made where credit is due". Which is different from almost all the credit going exclusively to Yuasa. |
tsudecimo said: YoungVagabond said: Even ignoring all their massively successful non-anime shows and movies and their many iconic shounen series like Dragonball, we're talking about the same studio that produced Sailor Moon, Air, and Clannad, all of which pander to otaku in a big way, and the latter two which fall squarely in the moe genre. Compare that to Madhouse, which doesn't have any similar series. (In fact, I'm struggling to think of any show they produced that featured supposedly 18 year-old girls with the bodies of 8 year-olds, giant saucer eyes, and no nose) Lol, the wank is real. No Game No Life. Highschool of the dead, Chaos;head, Ichigo 100%, Needless, PhotoKano, etc. All fall in that made up category of ''pandering''. I'm also not sure, how Sailor Moon is pandered to Otaku, when it's the equivalent of Dragonball for Shoujo. yes madhouse has done some otaku oriented shows but thats for them to keep going, only high school of the dead and no game no life has decent sales and they did not even cross the 10K average disc sales or anime hit list line so they still almost went bankrupt because they did not do more shows like that, but that might change in the future with this new ownership of madhouse |
tsudecimo said: YoungVagabond said: Even ignoring all their massively successful non-anime shows and movies and their many iconic shounen series like Dragonball, we're talking about the same studio that produced Sailor Moon, Air, and Clannad, all of which pander to otaku in a big way, and the latter two which fall squarely in the moe genre. Compare that to Madhouse, which doesn't have any similar series. (In fact, I'm struggling to think of any show they produced that featured supposedly 18 year-old girls with the bodies of 8 year-olds, giant saucer eyes, and no nose) Lol, the wank is real. You like wanking it to 8 year-old girls? I would keep that shit off the Internet if I were you. Anywho, you do have a point. Madhouse has been guilty of some pandering to otaku/moe themselves, which I was unaware of. Fair enough. I guess they just do it relatively less than other studios. tsudecimo said: I'm also not sure, how Sailor Moon is pandered to Otaku, when it's the equivalent of Dragonball for Shoujo. It was a show rife with fan service, including teen girls in skimpy outfits becoming naked during transformation sequences. Very popular among older males in Japan when it aired. |
tsudecimo said: I'm also not sure, how Sailor Moon is pandered to Otaku, when it's the equivalent of Dragonball for Shoujo. lol |
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| They just have a pretty high production standard. |
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Milk_is_Special said: They just have a pretty high production standard. Yeah this. They actually care about the quality of their work. Sure, all studios objective is for their anime to be profitable but some are so greedy that they care about nothing other than that. You would expect the richest studio (Toei) to have great animation but nope, Madhouse which has nowhere near its budget is much better in that department even when comparing the same types of shows ( long running battle anime. Also, Madhouse seems to be more willing to take risks by producing late time slots anime hence giving their chance to smaller manga to get adapted. With other studios, it seems like they prefer to milk the same prime time slot series again and again. Finally, Madhouse made HxH 2011 and Death note which I find amazingly good adaptations of already great manga. |
AgafinOct 8, 2014 9:03 AM
| I don't find Madhouse studio to that *Great*, For example lets take Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei, It was rushed |
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Agafin said: Milk_is_Special said: They just have a pretty high production standard. Yeah this. They actually care about the quality of theirt work. Sure, all studios objective is for their anime to be profitable but some are so greedy that they care about nothing other than that. You would expect the richest studio (Toei) to have great animation but nope, Madhouse which has nowhere near its budget is much better in that department even when comparing the same types of shows ( long running battle anime. Also, Madhouse seems to be more willing to take risks by producing late time slots anime hence giving their chance to smaller manga to get adapted. With other studios, it seems like they prefer to milk the same prime time slot series again and again. Finally, Madhouse made HxH 2011 and Death note which I find amazingly good adaptations of already great manga. Agreed with all you said. Whenever I see something made by MadHouse I get eyegasm. It is amazing, astonishing. OST they choose is also the best. Only thing that can lack whenever they take on some work for adaptation would be the story part. Even though they chose some interesting works, sometimes story falls behind animation and OST quality (Take Mahouka for example- I enjoyed it but it bothered me that MC was Garry Stu, while everyone else was incompetent as much as Tatsuya was opposite). Also, one of their "could be" flaws is that they make animations and never continue them so they can boost selling of source material (NGNL is only example I know off, but some say there are others). But still, I was never disappointed whenever I chose their anime to watch. It has always been above average in the least. Only recently did I discover that most of anime I really love is made by them- Death Note, HxH 2011, Hajime no Ippo... |
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Renaultclio101 said: I don't find Madhouse studio to that *Great*, For example lets take Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei, It was rushed I have no problem with them rushing crap. |
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