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Aug 19, 2014 9:18 PM
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Like, I get if you want to be chaste until marriage or something. There is no pressure to have sex right now. But when you try to justify the decision by throwing a bunch of blind darts at the "problem", trying to convince yourself and other people that your decision was the "right" one for society and yourself, that you don't really "need" sex despite that you're talking about it all day, that sounds really insecure and pathetic, dude... Trust me, we can spot that shit from a mile away.

The true way to solve a problem is to confront it and admit that, for example, you can't meet women, or you have a problem with small talk, or you're socially nervous, and then come up with steps towards a solution. That's respectable, because there ain't no shame in a person taking responsibility for his situation, and taking the necessary steps--you do what you gotta do.

Or if you don't see a problem in it at all, that's cool too.

But when you're wrestling with your inner demons over it and lying to yourself, just why??
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Aug 19, 2014 9:22 PM
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It's always easier to make excuses to not blame yourself over something that's your fault.
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I like how you assume all these virgins are just straight men.

I also don't understand why people who haven't had sex feel the need to go round shouting their mouths off about it. Who cares? Equally, who cares if you have had sex? You're just a username and an avatar on an anime website, what do I or anyone else care if you've slept with someone or not?
Aug 19, 2014 9:28 PM
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I don't see why being a virgin would require any sort of justification in the first place.
Aug 19, 2014 9:29 PM
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DanshiDerp said:
I like how you assume all these virgins are just straight men.

I also don't understand why people who haven't had sex feel the need to go round shouting their mouths off about it. Who cares? Equally, who cares if you have had sex? You're just a username and an avatar on an anime website, what do I or anyone else care if you've slept with someone or not?
Yo no offense or nothin' but usually these kind of really passionate responses come from virgins.

just sayin' bruv
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Aug 19, 2014 9:31 PM
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Korrvo said:
DanshiDerp said:
I like how you assume all these virgins are just straight men.

I also don't understand why people who haven't had sex feel the need to go round shouting their mouths off about it. Who cares? Equally, who cares if you have had sex? You're just a username and an avatar on an anime website, what do I or anyone else care if you've slept with someone or not?
Yo no offense or nothin' but usually these kind of really passionate responses come from virgins.

just sayin' bruv

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say that. I'm not a virgin by any stretch of the imagination and I'm a "sis", not a "bruv", but again, does that even matter?
Aug 19, 2014 9:32 PM
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who cares if they do
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Aug 19, 2014 9:32 PM
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DanshiDerp said:
Korrvo said:
Yo no offense or nothin' but usually these kind of really passionate responses come from virgins.

just sayin' bruv

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say that. I'm not a virgin by any stretch of the imagination and I'm a "sis", not a "bruv", but again, does that even matter?
It's k mang I believe you
no worries bruv
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DanshiDerp said:
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say that. I'm not a virgin by any stretch of the imagination and I'm a "sis", not a "bruv", but again, does that even matter?
Really? You were actually waiting for such a response?
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Korrvo said:
DanshiDerp said:

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say that. I'm not a virgin by any stretch of the imagination and I'm a "sis", not a "bruv", but again, does that even matter?
It's k mang I believe you
no worries bruv

Gosh you're cute

katsucats said:
DanshiDerp said:
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say that. I'm not a virgin by any stretch of the imagination and I'm a "sis", not a "bruv", but again, does that even matter?
Really? You were actually waiting for such a response?

Not waiting, but expecting.
Aug 19, 2014 9:36 PM

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DanshiDerp said:
Korrvo said:
It's k mang I believe you
no worries bruv

Gosh you're cute


Calm yourself, yo. Korrvo's just being British.
Aug 19, 2014 9:38 PM

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I'm also British, yo.
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So is this your own problem, or are you making assumptions about other peoples problems?
Aug 19, 2014 9:39 PM

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DanshiDerp said:
katsucats said:
Really? You were actually waiting for such a response?
Not waiting, but expecting.
So you wrote a response, and you were self conscious that your response could bring about a certain reaction.................
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Aug 19, 2014 9:39 PM

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SaucyNudityBaron said:

Calm yourself, yo. Korrvo's just being British.
dawg that's offensive
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DanshiDerp said:

I'm also British, yo.


But there's a difference. You ARE British, while Korrvo is just BEING British. This changes everything.
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Korrvo said:
SaucyNudityBaron said:

Calm yourself, yo. Korrvo's just being British.
dawg that's offensive


No disrespect, dawg, but I am offensive.
Aug 19, 2014 9:41 PM

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mecharobot said:
So is this your own problem, or are you making assumptions about other peoples problems?
I'm not making assumptions at all. Stop being defensive and learn to read. I'm fine with people who don't put virginity on a pedestal. This thread is about the virgins who do put virginity on a pedestal, and shoot themselves down while they're at it.
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Aug 19, 2014 9:44 PM

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katsucats said:
DanshiDerp said:
Not waiting, but expecting.
So you wrote a response, and you were self conscious that your response could bring about a certain reaction.................
yes? What's so surprising about that?

See this argumentative nature of the forums is exactly why I barely ever post here nowadays.
Aug 19, 2014 9:47 PM

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DanshiDerp said:
See this argumentative nature of the forums is exactly why I barely ever post here nowadays.
Argumentative? Haha, no. See, I'm just pointing out some things. Some things that people, for some reason, aren't cognitive of their own doing. I don't write something stupid, for example, and then be like, "I was waiting to see to call me out for being stupid. I knew it."
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Aug 19, 2014 9:49 PM

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As your post was rather critical, I wonder if the people you speak to who are virgins feel that you will be critical of them if they didn't try to justify it. I'm not saying what they did was cool, but there are usually more than one side to a story.

Besides you yourself, in North American societies at the very least, there is often achievement associated with sex. Over the years, this perception of inadequacy can grate, even on someone who has decent self esteem. I wouldn't fool yourself like I did. For the most part, if someone wants sex they can get sex. It might not be with who they want, or even someone they care about.

And if you don't mean just sex, if you mean a sexual relationship with someone that you care about than that's a tough bag to judge. It's easy to say "he should work out," or "he should get out from in-front of the computer," but out of shape people can find romance just like in-shape people. There is something called okcupid, along with plentyofish, match etc.

It's tempting to point to people's problems and say this is how they should act or deal with them. It's much more difficult, at least for me, to accept people for how they are before trying to help them find what's really best for them.
Aug 19, 2014 9:56 PM

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SwordsmanDan said:
As your post was rather critical, I wonder if the people you speak to who are virgins feel that you will be critical of them if they didn't try to justify it.
I said in my OP that I would be more accepting if they didn't try to justify it (if they really didn't believe it), and instead take steps to solve the problem. There is often achievement associated with sex, and people who are cognitive of that achievement should approach this problem like any other. People who do not care about it will not--people who truly do not care would not take to online forums with fiery rants about how shallow society is or emotional retellings of their thought processes.

It's critical thinking. It really is exactly like a math problem. There are students that don't take calculus, and that's not their problem. But for students that do, there are two main approaches:
1) Find the variables, find the formulas, devise steps, solve for solution, test.
2) Say that it's too hard and you don't need it anyways because you're fine with just a passing grade.

A lot of virgins are #2.
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Aug 19, 2014 9:58 PM

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katsucats said:
DanshiDerp said:
See this argumentative nature of the forums is exactly why I barely ever post here nowadays.
Argumentative? Haha, no. See, I'm just pointing out some things. Some things that people, for some reason, aren't cognitive of their own doing. I don't write something stupid, for example, and then be like, "I was waiting to see to call me out for being stupid. I knew it."
Ok babe. I think you need to re-read my first post, because I didn't write anything stupid. I was agreeing with your opinion. It was Korrvo who then posted an assumption on me, which was wrong, and I already knew that someone would come along all "hurr durr ur a Virgin" simply because I said I don't get why virgins have to make a song and dance out of the fact that they are? Idk man this night shift is killing my patience.
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I get annoyed when virgins have a holier than thou attitude. Being a virgin is nothing to be ashamed of, but likewise it is nothing to be proud of.
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where shiratori999 at
Aug 19, 2014 10:07 PM

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Minagatachi said:
I get annoyed when virgins have a holier than thou attitude. Being a virgin is nothing to be ashamed of, but likewise it is nothing to be proud of.
lol ive never gotten my dick wet because I have SELF CONTROL

HAH

THAT'S RIGHT
now take your DICK and shove it up your girlfriends PUSSY like the pussy YOU are
HAHAHA
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where shiratori999 at


Busy taking care of his club.
Aug 19, 2014 10:10 PM

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Much that slut shaming is a thing, virgin shaming is also a thing.

People "justify" their virginity because we live in a culture that holds high expectations for people (mostly men) to lose their virginities. It's to avoid further ridicule, as well as a "sour grapes" type psychological coping method.
Aug 19, 2014 10:13 PM

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People "justify" their virginity because we live in a culture that holds high expectations for people (mostly men) to lose their virginities. It's to avoid further ridicule, as well as a "sour grapes" type psychological coping method.
That's ironic. They'd get much less criticism if they accepted their circumstances instead of trying to convince other people that their happy about themselves, which in turn just sounds pathetic.
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Aug 19, 2014 10:19 PM

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katsucats said:
I'm not making assumptions at all. Stop being defensive and learn to read. I'm fine with people who don't put virginity on a pedestal. This thread is about the virgins who do put virginity on a pedestal, and shoot themselves down while they're at it.


You seriously expect me to believe that? These threads are never about seeking answers to questions or about understanding. They are always about finding a justification to your opinion for whatever reason.
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Minagatachi said:
I get annoyed when virgins have a holier than thou attitude. Being a virgin is nothing to be ashamed of, but likewise it is nothing to be proud of.


Well said. 100% agreed.
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Its because in today's world, chicks are sooooooooooo difficult to get. You gotta show them a resume and a portfolio of your life before they even say hello to you.

Thank you feminism

Why do you think that Japan and South Korea have horrible birth rates? Because the ladies are impossible to get.
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Aug 19, 2014 10:36 PM

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it's ok being virgin but don't be proud of it. it will annoy people around you for sure
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Its because in today's world, chicks are sooooooooooo difficult to get. You gotta show them a resume and a portfolio of your life before they even say hello to you.

Thank you feminism
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y123y said:
Its because in today's world, chicks are sooooooooooo difficult to get. You gotta show them a resume and a portfolio of your life before they even say hello to you.

Then go after men. Men are easy.
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mecharobot said:
katsucats said:
I'm not making assumptions at all. Stop being defensive and learn to read. I'm fine with people who don't put virginity on a pedestal. This thread is about the virgins who do put virginity on a pedestal, and shoot themselves down while they're at it.
You seriously expect me to believe that? These threads are never about seeking answers to questions or about understanding. They are always about finding a justification to your opinion for whatever reason.
So what's your purpose in posting in a thread, ignoring it, and instead make assumptions based on what you perceive every other thread to be but this one? lol

What are you defending?
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Aug 19, 2014 11:10 PM

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I think this can go both ways, especially when people are annoyed or angry.

And why is it that defending something means you either are associated with that something or you are that something? That would make of me a lot of things that I am not.




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Aug 19, 2014 11:14 PM
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Why should losing your virginity make you a "superior" human being or vice versa? It's just nonsensical societal pressure and nothing more. Just ignore everyone who thinks it's a big deal.
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Why should losing your virginity make you a "superior" human being or vice versa? It's just nonsensical societal pressure and nothing more. Just ignore everyone who thinks it's a big deal.
Well, by your logic, in the context of society you are a superior human being.

Even though I don't actually see that nowadays...




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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HaXXspetten said:
Why should losing your virginity make you a "superior" human being or vice versa? It's just nonsensical societal pressure and nothing more. Just ignore everyone who thinks it's a big deal.
Why do you use an irrelevant justification to support virginity? Note that your question has nothing to do with the thread, but it's an attitude that you yourself brought to the thread. Since it clearly didn't originate from the thread, why do you think it's a big deal?
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why does HaXXspetten think it's a big deal?
Social pressure.




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Aug 19, 2014 11:21 PM

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I think those people are really ashamed of being virgins.

Seriously, guys. There's nothing to be ashamed of virgin or not.
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Aug 19, 2014 11:21 PM
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Coz I have reasons -_- .
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Support virginity? Justify virginity? I don't see what's the problem with being a virgin.
And if someone takes pride in being a virgin, so what? People take pride in loads of things and anything.
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why does HaXXspetten think it's a big deal?
Social pressure.
But here's the thing. This thread makes no mention of a virginity and superiority correlation. But rather it's about an irrational adverse attitude that some people hold about certain issues that plague their consciousness. And I think his question sort of typifies this. It's in the tone, when someone writes 'superior' in scare-quotes as if mocking a contingent that doesn't even exist here.
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And if someone takes pride in being a virgin, so what?
If a person is really so proud of being virgin, the problem wouldn't be constantly weighing on his mind, like the pros and cons of sex. It would be a bygone issue.
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Aug 19, 2014 11:34 PM
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What's with these threads?
Each time I click on Casual Discussion section there's at least one thread talking abut virginity.
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muph said:
And if someone takes pride in being a virgin, so what?


If I was still a virgin, I would live every day without giving it any thought. I think that would be actual pride.
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
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caperock said:
What's with these threads?
Each time I click on Casual Discussion section there's at least one thread talking abut virginity.


Most people here are virgins and some need ways to cope with the horrors of "virginity."
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
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nothing wrong with making excuses (rationalization) for yourself since its human nature
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y123y said:
Its because in today's world, chicks are sooooooooooo difficult to get. You gotta show them a resume and a portfolio of your life before they even say hello to you.
I know this has been said to death, but I'll say it again; confidence and an interesting personality is all you need (I guess you'd need average looks as well, don't want to scare then off). More attractive girls tend to be more picky (what do you expect, they probably get so much guys hitting on them), so if you're not having luck with them just lower your standards a bit. Also, if you're a boring person like myself, alcohol works wonders.
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