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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Gonna watch this with subs when the subs are out, I didn't understand one part. But nevertheless, this episode was so well done. And Yuuki was pretty awesome, disappearing all the time. I actually even shed a tear, which is a thing I usually don't do. |
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| Hmmmm I don't think they handled Yuuki's death too well. They stretched it for too long and it was too obvious that he was gone by the end. Not to mention the whole creepy bgm at the end just killed the moment. |
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| This felt almost like a ghost/horror story the way how Yuuki always disappeared and reappeared. With a darker setting this would be good stuff. ;) I also think it was stretched out a bit too much, but that is probably because I figured his death out very early. Truth be told I actually liked that is was streched out like this, because it gave the people who didn't know it yet a chance to understand. These people might have experienced the emotional impact completely different from the rest of us. I also think Mirai needed all of this to say goodbye, considering her mental state. On the truck she just wasn't ready yet. Additional note: I was right that it was the first "dream" in ep8 that was the reality. |
| I don't think it was too stretched. Mirai needed the time to process that he's really dead. Maah, I wished that Mirai stays oblivious until someone else tells her (maybe her parents) that he's dead. But that would have caused a mental breakdown, I guess xD |
| Enjoyed This Episode Tho It Was A Tad Bit Boring |
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| Knowing in the first place kinda took the suspense away, but since this is a very short anime they had no choice but to go this route. This should of lasted till the end though, I think they're cutting it short. It lessens the events for the final epd imo. |
| I, too, agree it was stretched out just a little too long, what with Itsuki asking for Yuuki, going to search for him, coming back, still no Yuuki, going off somewhere again...etc. Other than that, though, I liked this episode. Mirai's slow realization - and even for the viewers, where the clues became increasingly obvious - of Yuuki's death made it quite sad. Not tear-jerking sad, but sad enough that I felt pretty bad for her, knowing what she'd have to go through once Yuuki's death became real to her. The implication that she's lost her mind for a bit, too, would also hit her quite hard, I'd imagine. kerlyenai said: Reading the other posts, I realised that quite a few people were still in denial about his death until the very end. This is actually pretty frightening because it means people can can also be that much in denial in real life (yes I know I've said that before). I just hope that all those who refused to believe in Yuuki's death despite it being so obvious, will learn from this experience and try to be a little more honest with themselves if any real situation. Denial is a frightening thing. However, this is anime, not real life, and in anime, literally anything can happen and it's not uncommon to have a story lead you on in one direction and then turn around and surprise you with something else. Real life, though, doesn't quite go that way xD Besides, not everyone has a psychotic episode after they lose a loved one ^^ |
| I must say I really liked this episode, and after it the first question that comes to my mind is: Is Yuuki an illusion or a ghost? Yuuki promised Mirai they would go together to their home, so he's gone together with her like a sort of guardian angel; what makes me think like this is that, if you remember, it was Yuuki that said to Mirai to search more for Mari's daughter, it was him that said to Mirai to go get Itsuki and, during the earthquake at Itsuki's place, it was because Mari grabbed Itsuki and went where Yuuki was standing that they were safe (the part of the house were Mirai and Itsuki were standing/going crumbled). I'd like to think the Yuuki only Mirai can see is a ghost, I may be wrong, but how can an illusion suggest Mirai to do that kind of things? What do you think? |
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Koyuki-Kakashi said: I must say I really liked this episode, and after it the first question that comes to my mind is: Is Yuuki an illusion or a ghost? Yuuki promised Mirai they would go together to their home, so he's gone together with her like a sort of guardian angel; what makes me think like this is that, if you remember, it was Yuuki that said to Mirai to search more for Mari's daughter, it was him that said to Mirai to go get Itsuki and, during the earthquake at Itsuki's place, it was because Mari grabbed Itsuki and went where Yuuki was standing that they were safe (the part of the house were Mirai and Itsuki were standing/going crumbled). I'd like to think the Yuuki only Mirai can see is a ghost, I may be wrong, but how can an illusion suggest Mirai to do that kind of things? What do you think? Could go either way, I think. Now that you mention it, Yuuki does seem to be taking a "guardian angel" role. However, illusions really can be very convincing and can do all sorts of things, so I wouldn't be surprised if Mirai had simply a brief psychotic episode from the stress of losing Yuuki. |
| again, even though we all know he's dead, it's still pretty painful to watch... Now, let's see how they will wrap it up in the next episode.... the animation was crappy in this episode once again.... |
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| if Yuuki's dead, how come Mari..at the past episodes after Yuuki got sick; seems like she is also conversating with the two (Yuuki and Mirai)? is this just a new idea that suddenly struck the directors mind XD |
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| So Mirari wasn't dreaming at all in Ep 8. Everything was real for the most part. I was waiting for Yuuki to say he was dead, thought it would have happened at the start of the episode though. BUT having it where they did was just as good. Since they took Yuuki to the hospital Mari has not addressed Yuuki. Mirari has been the only one to address him directly since then. |
| I admit, I teared up when Yuuki phased in from nowhere and Mirai had a flashback of him wheeled away. |
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| I found all the ghost disappearances kinda cheesy, but I guess this was the best way to bring it to a gradual close. There's still people who would have been blindsided that haven't paid attention to fan discussions so it's probably for the best. I was kinda hoping for something more dramatic, but it works. The falling building felt a little sloppy as a way to elevate tension... it was just kinda thrown in there. Maybe they're trying to imply some symbolism where the house crumbling is like her illusions doing the same.... but there would have been better settings for that. I wonder if this scene was originally planned for their own house. I feel sorry for Itsuki... the director is making him run around looking for his dead friend just to help make a plot point... :-/ At least her parents are alive... and they probably know about Yuuki from the phone message Mari left earlier. It'll be a bit too tearful if Mirai has to try to break it to them. One more ep to go... so expect a reunion, Mari catching up to Mirai, and some powerful statement about rebuilding lives... throw in a flash-forward scene with Mirai and Family crossing the bridge and it'll wrap up nicely. Rinjii said: if Yuuki's dead, how come Mari..at the past episodes after Yuuki got sick; seems like she is also conversating with the two (Yuuki and Mirai)? Watch them again, you'll see that Mari only ever talks/calls/touches Mirai. There are parts where Mirai talks about Yuuki in front of her, but it's easy to interpret those sentences differently. Mari obviously finds it strange that Mirai isn't bawling and in pain, but can't bring herself to confront Mirai about it. |
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| Pretty good episode imo. |
| That was depressing, he did die in the hospital. |
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| I blame my sister. I was the dense people who didn't realize the hint at episode 8-9s. My sister told me about it and I was like, "NO, YOUR WRONG" "It can't be true!!" Then throughout the whole episode, I saw all those obvious hints and I was like, "dang it all". Oh well, it was an average episode for me. Like other people said, it didn't really give me the whole sadness feeling. I don't know why, but I didn't have much of a reaction. I only felt a little chill in my spine, but that's about it. I usually feel like tears are about to come out during sad situations, but this really didn't do it for me. |
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| Could have been more dramatic but I did tear up at the end D: |
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| First half was kind of dragged out, it got great when they entered the classroom though. And heh, the first "dream" sequence from episode 8 was actually reality, while the second one with the doctors exiting the surgery room was actually a dream. |
| That was well done. These past few episodes, the hints where subtle enough as to not give away the secret right off the bat. I'm happy they left us on our feet. I'm wondering if Yuuki is a real ghost or really just his sister's own mind showing her what she wants to see and hear. Should be a interesting ending...parents finding out their son died, Mirai having to deal with the fact that her brother's been dead for days, Yuuki going off to the other world, Mari possibly showing up...etc. |
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wakka9ca said: again, even though we all know he's dead, it's still pretty painful to watch... I did tear up a little at that. I'd been in denial about it since the little hospital scene/dream Mirai had...but now it's confirmed. D: Wonder how they'll end it |
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| No wonder i felt it kinda strange how come Yuuki is still there .. guess he really was died |
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| I started crying when she saw his picture in the classroom. *sniffs* It was a very real and very emotional way to view a death in a show. |
| I felt sorry, but it was too prolonged and a little annoying. |
| What's with kids these days? Punching people randomly like that... Okay so Yuuki is officially dead. Lots of tears again. |
Minoru said: I felt sorry, but it was too prolonged and a little annoying. quite so and the ed feels like after stories.... completely out of place |
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| I thought when they had the building collapse, they were going to kill Yuuki's friend WITH Yuuki and that was when Mirai would have recognized that he was dead. I'm glad it didn't happen that way. He COULD be an angel instead of an imagined figure. |
| I enjoyed this episode despite the fact I already knew Yuuki was dead. I guess this anime needed to be short because it would really feel dragged out if it was like 26 episodes or something. |
| I haven't been on these boards throughout watching this anime so I noticed the hints about him being dead but like someone mentioned above I thought the death was a dream and the part about him being alive was the truth. I wasn't so much in denial as optomistic. But losts of little things didn't make sense to me so that answers that. The final conclusion in this episode about his death I think was drawn out too though. |
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| ^^ yuuki's death was already dragged out, couldn't even imagine how slow 26 episodes would be. the thing that is funny, though is how there are still some people who didn't know yuuki died. at least mirai was in shock, so she has an excuse. it's not even the fact that they missed the clues or were in some sort of denial. it's just that the majority of those who haven't seen it coming actually like this anime. now, I think this anime is a 5/6 right now, but even I trust it enough to do a proper foreshadowing and get the hints the anime keeps throwing. yuuki being alive would have f*cked up the last two episodes, i don't think anyone wants that. |
| Just a thought,but, what if the whole part of Yuuki being dead was some sort of Dream in the end? |
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| LOL @ who ever said what happen if she was hallucinating and this was just all a dream in the last episode discussion |
ClearSinz said: LOL @ who ever said what happen if she was hallucinating and this was just all a dream in the last episode discussion Lol, I had to throw it out there. Most likely, he is dead. I am just curious as to how Episode 11 will turn out. I am ready for either a HUGE twist or a regular ending. |
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| Oh my god, could they have dragged this episode out any longer? Mari understandably tiptoed around it, but the Itsuki kid should have realized something was fucked up halfway through! Oh, and plot hole, HOW CAN HE BE CARRYING THE BACKPACK? |
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| Oh, and plot hole, HOW CAN HE BE CARRYING THE BACKPACK? Very true, lol |
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| Loved it. Even though I knew he was dead I still loved how they handled this in Mirai's perspective. I loveeeed the flashback clips when she finally realized it. So sad. Definitely a great series. (minus that little kid's voice in this episode...Yuuki's friend...wanted to strangle him xD) |
kerlyenai said: The imaginary Yuuki carrying the backpack is not a plot hole. Mirai forgot it when she left Mari and has been imagining him carrying it ever since. Mari has got the real one, as seen at the end of the last episode. That was not the Last Episode. There is one more... |
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