No Game No Life (light novel)
cupc said: Cheesekao said: cupc said: Hey look so did I. My point is it seems that his problem isn't simply that he doesn't like otaku pandering shows as a whole. He dislikes a specific subset of that and I'm not gonna tell him he's wrong but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't annoyed by his condescension of people who likes that subset of shows. I dislike plenty of shows but I don't go around being a dick when expressing my dislike of them. I can see your point, but even if KlK has loads of fan service and I didn't like it, I still commend it for trying to be something else than a couple of nerds trapped in a a virtual world. You don't like the show? That's fine with me. At least you're being respectful about it and I appreciate that. |
cupc said: Cheesekao said: cupc said: Hey look so did I. My point is it seems that his problem isn't simply that he doesn't like otaku pandering shows as a whole. He dislikes a specific subset of that and I'm not gonna tell him he's wrong but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't annoyed by his condescension of people who likes that subset of shows. I dislike plenty of shows but I don't go around being a dick when expressing my dislike of them. I can see your point, but even if KlK has loads of fan service and I didn't like it, I still commend it for trying to be something else than a couple of nerds trapped in a a virtual world. Weird logic. So everything that is not trying to be about virtual worlds is good and better by default than this anime? Ehh... |
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Weird logic. So everything that is not trying to be about virtual worlds is good and better by default than this anime? Ehh... Yeah it's very weird isn't it. Virtual worlds should stay in video games and not infiltrate tv series in the form of escapism for young people. gamer5 said: Cheesekao said: cupc said: Hey look so did I. My point is it seems that his problem isn't simply that he doesn't like otaku pandering shows as a whole. He dislikes a specific subset of that and I'm not gonna tell him he's wrong but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't annoyed by his condescension of people who likes that subset of shows. I dislike plenty of shows but I don't go around being a dick when expressing my dislike of them. I have a simple method of deciding if I like something - I watch/read a few chapters/episodes and if I like it I keep going, maybe even post on MAL to show that I liked it - if I don't like it (which happens rarely) then I drop it and leave it be, I don't go and shove the fact I don't like in the face of the people which like it (AKA I am not being a total asshole for just not liking something). What is worse then an ass' - an ass' trying to justify being one. That is very respectable. But then again, posting your own opinions is the sole reason forums exist. |
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| Right, because entertainment as a whole doesn't serve as escapism for people, only a subset of it is bad, obviously. |
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cupc said: That is very respectable. But then again, posting your own opinions is the sole reason forums exist. It's more to do with simply not being a jerk when voicing your opinion. |
cupc said: So virtual world is just an escapism? What about Digimon then?Weird logic. So everything that is not trying to be about virtual worlds is good and better by default than this anime? Ehh... Yeah it's very weird isn't it. Virtual worlds should stay in video games and not infiltrate tv series in the form of escapism for young people. |
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tsudecimo said: Right, because entertainment as a whole doesn't serve as escapism for people, only a subset of it is bad, obviously. Yeah that's what I honestly think. Video games as a major plot point is just lame. I can't take shows like those seriously. Then when a relatively serious show comes out (see Knights of Sidonia) it gets a shit budget when No Game no Life gets Madhouse and a bank full of value. |
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| You are not even making any sense. It's not the show's fault that you can't take it seriously based on arbitrary reasons. What the relation between Knights of Sidonia's budget and this anime?, they are not made by the same studio, or do you maybe think that each season has a budget, that gets divided between anime airing in it... |
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tsudecimo said: You are not even making any sense. It's not the show's fault that you can't take it seriously based on arbitrary reasons. What the relation between Knights of Sidonia's budget and this anime?, they are not made by the same studio, or do you maybe think that each season has a budget, that gets divided between anime airing in it... How so. No, that's not what I think. But nevertheless it is slightly depressing. |
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cupc said: Video games as a major plot point is just lame. Did you even watch the show? Rock Paper Scissors. Poker. Chess. How are those video games? |
Cheesekao said: cupc said: Video games as a major plot point is just lame. Did you even watch the show? Rock Paper Scissors. Poker. Chess. How are those video games? Well thanks for enlightening me now I love this show. |
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| I don't think that's true. The publishers offers the job to the studio and it's up to them to accept, unless I'm mistaken. |
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cupc said: Cheesekao said: cupc said: Video games as a major plot point is just lame. Did you even watch the show? Rock Paper Scissors. Poker. Chess. How are those video games? Well thanks for enlightening me now I love this show. Sure thing bub. tsudecimo said: I don't think that's true. The publishers offers the job to the studio and it's up to them to accept, unless I'm mistaken. It goes both ways but this anime is clearly a contract job by mediafactory. |
Cheesekao said: cupc said: Cheesekao said: cupc said: Cheesekao said: Nidhoeggr said: Orix said: What kind of masochist wouldn't want to be glorified for no reason? :P Is it too much to ask for a logical and somewhat well-told story? If you're expecting every single anime you watch to follow that criteria, then yes and that's selfish. I think his point is that there aren't enough well made stories in recent anime. Only otaku pandering stuff like this. He himself has watched otaku pandering shows and even liked them so I don't think that's simply the case. Monster or Gits are very otaku favored shows indeed. How about you look through his anime list instead of just his favorites? He gave Kill la Kill and Panty and Stocking 8's and you sure as hell aren't gonna tell me those aren't otaku pandering. Because a parody of Western Saturday Morning cartoons and a show that mixes Go Nagai with classic 80s Shounen elements are so standard and otaku pandering. Also, they do not tell me I am awesome just for liking games and can capture naked chicks with big boobs with my NEET imouto.. and yes, I do think a certain subset of the industry is worse in general because it has - unlike KlK or PSG - NO vision behind "appeal to gamer fantasies to sell as much as possible". This product (I won't call it art cause this implies people actually thought about it when creating it) is so obviously written to squeeze money out of gamers who *really* need to get their ego striked and it is baffling why so many people fall for it without even questioning it (nice job ignoring that about my initial post, btw). You are right, though. I should regrade everything, it has been years since I did that and many scores are way too nice. Takuan_Soho said: Nidhoeggr said: Is it too much to ask for a logical and somewhat well-told story? They you should love this show, it has been completely logical and the story has been well told up until this point. The latter is true because after 2 episodes we have had a complete world system and rules explained several times, and the former because what Sora did in the game followed logically from the rules. You are letting the colors and the antics on the stage distract you from what has been going on behind the scenes. Do not worry, it was not because of the colors. I was too busy being annoyed by unneccessary bath scenes, tit groping, speeches that glorify otakus and other stuff to notice that. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Not really, but the overall presentation of it was really obnoxious and way too in your face. The entire show's approach is just way too... cheap and obviously chumming up for my tastes. |
NidhoeggrApr 25, 2014 11:00 AM
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Yeah, I guess I will leave you and your argumentum ad populum alone for now. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
gamer5 said: That is not a valid argument and you know it, I can name at least 5 anime off the top of my head that absolutely do not deserve to be in a similar situation.And amongst the top 100 TV series on the MAL list- it is definitely more inside NGNL then you see in it - or think you see in it. So please go away and leave us to enjoy by most opinions very good, great or epic series. |
Nidhoeggr said: Because a parody of Western Saturday Morning cartoons and a show that mixes Go Nagai with classic 80s Shounen elements are so standard and otaku pandering. Before I properly answer your question, I'd like to know what your definition of 'otaku' is. Also, those 2 shows are also obnoxious and in your face with the fanservice, something which you oh so hate and such an approach is 'cheap' and obviously chumming up to pervert's dicks.Maybe I should say Kill la Kill and PSG sure as hell are shows that pander towards sexually depraved losers instead. Nidhoeggr said: Also, they do not tell me I am awesome just for liking games and can capture naked chicks with big boobs with my NEET imouto.. and yes, I do think a certain subset of the industry is worse in general because it has - unlike KlK or PSG - NO vision behind "appeal to gamer fantasies to sell as much as possible". This product (I won't call it art cause this implies people actually thought about it when creating it) is so obviously written to squeeze money out of gamers who *really* need to get their ego striked and it is baffling why so many people fall for it without even questioning it (nice job ignoring that about my initial post, btw). You are right, though. I should regrade everything, it has been years since I did that and many scores are way too nice. All I hear is "I'm gonna assume things that I have no solid proof of!" How about you make a survey asking people if the only reason they enjoy this show is because "muh games" or "Hey, this show is actually fun on it's own merits". Unless you can do that, have a decent sample size and the majority of the results are "muh games", all you're saying is pure conjecture. I sure as hell don't feel my ego being stroked. This show is stupid and fun like FLCL and that's all I think of it. |
CheesekaoApr 25, 2014 4:53 PM
| But FLCL wasn't all that stupid, not that I'd want to argue the point. |
| Pretty mediocre show so far, and definitely doesn't deserve an 8.50 rating in my opinion. But at the end of the day it doesn't matter anyway. |
| It's been an okay show for me so far. For some reason the animation is odd, it end up appearing so bright on my laptop its sort of a pain to look at haha. I would not even remotely rate it an 8 or above though, haven't seen anything in it that seems extraordinary to me. The speeches, comedy, and character interaction are decent enough. |
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| I couldn't even get past the first ep. tbh. it was so damn boring and stupid to me. stopped at around 17 min. I think, haha. |
| "Why do people like something I don't like?" |
| Get ready guys Jibril descend next episode!!! |
| Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
| Because Shiro service, and the majority of MAL consists of pedophilic lolicons. |
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Caleb8980 said: I belive it will happen.NihonFalcom said: Because Shiro service, and the majority of MAL consists of pedophilic lolicons. Ah yes, that's definitely the reason. @NeoAnkara Jibril is really nice :D But so is Renko; I really hope there will be an adapation for that LN some time in the future, too ^^ |
| Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
| Because it's a simple show that is easy to enjoy and it has nice art. Syrosu said: "Why do people like something I don't like?" It can't be that they actually like it! Right!?!?! Sorry introver, I couldn't resist |
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NihonFalcom said: Because Shiro service, and the majority of MAL consists of pedophilic lolicons. I'll take it you haven't watched the show, since we've gotten may be 2 shots of Shiro fan service? If that? All the service has gone to Steph almost entirely. However, lolis are still awesome. |
| Jibril and her shiritori have been out. Now waiting for reversi and FPS. |
| Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
| because it's good why else |
Hisomi said: From my point of view, it's just especially popular here.... Okay, I mean, seen from some other forums, it just ranks in the middle place. And actually the first volume of NGNL doesn't sell well. ( seriously, the probability of a second season is really low). Based on the accumulated sales points, its final predicted sales ranks at 12th place ( 28 in total of this season). --------------------------------- source: if you can type in Japanese, you can check it in this site: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/index_news.cgi The reception for it elsewhere that I've seen is mostly positive with some criticisms about how the game aspect is kind of poorly executed and bullshit at times. Very middle of the pack and it seems to be about the same in Japan. It's pretty clear that the show is primarily over the top wish fulfillment empowerment stuff for NEET otaku where you're along the ride with the main duo that represents said demographic and which never loses and always gets it's way in the end. There's a lot that's contradictory about the main duo's portrayal and how their uberness at games conflicts with their supposed loser shut in lifestyle that really isn't worth getting into too much cause it's basically just a dumb silly comedy show about otaku things and fanservice, but yeah that's how I see it. This literally is the only community I've seen where people just completely lose their shit over the show on a weekly basis and over the somewhat amusing and over the top things that happen during each episode and really I think it says more about the MAL community than the overall quality and appeal of the show itself that it's held in such high esteem by it's users. |
| for me i do enjoy watching this series but lets be honest anything that involves video games or being trapped in one is hot right now its just the times that we are in the new fashion if you would so yeah... in a few years it will be something else thats just how things are. |
| Be It 10 or 1000 Men, The End Result Will Be The Same.. |
U9 said: Because it's entertaining. I don't know why you people watch anime, but I watch it because it's entertaining. Does everything need to be Dickens, Tolstoy or Hemingway in order to be considered "good"? this as long as i am interested, whether by the story or by the epicness (debatable), the comedy or the animation, as long as i have a good reason to watch it, i will. it doesnt matter if it contains comedy like this or gintama, a depressing story like madoka, sheer epicness from gurren lagann or fate zero; as long as i am interested, i will watch it. i have to say, this is one of the few animes in spring which i am really looking forward to (the other one is jojo, i know, but still i am enjoying manly man posing many manly poses while doing manly things and no homo) |
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| Because it's better than SAO. LOL haha sorry haters gonna hate |
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