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| Ugh, pretentious quoting that I never understand. Makes me hate the guy even more! Those attack dogs though, man, I wouldn't mind having one... Plus that guy enjoying the thrill of the hunt makes me want to see more of him. Well, I guess that boarding school is gonna have to face a mean inspection from parents. Why wasn't Rikako's psycho-pass measured sooner? Avoiding pass-by scans? -Morkie said: Are my eyes mistaken, or the visuals in EDs change every episode? Yeah I noticed that too, but not every episode. I think there's like 3 ED versions now? |
| Woahh.....Great episode!!! Rikako was taken care of by her own sponsors. I couldn't help but feel sorry for her. Seriously, those guys keep backstabbing each other. "Your reap what you saw" , I guess that became quite obvious with Rikako. Without a doubt, Makishima will suffer the same fate. Probably a shameful death as well. He's playing with fire now - by messing with Komagi. I'm still hoping to see more of Akane. She's a dinamic character, so she will develop somehow. Will she become mentally unstable and break? I can't wait to see more development! |
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aafarr2 said: (I also posted this in r/anime, but I thought you guys might like it too) For those wondering, the quotes that Makishima was saying are from Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus. Interestingly enough, he was jumping around the scenes a lot. Let's recap what he said. Spoilers about Titus Andronicus below. I put all the quotes in the spoiler to shorten the post length. Analysis time. First off, if we take the literal route, Rokako Oryo is playing the part of Titus' daughter Lavinia. Lavinia is raped by Chiron and Demetrius, who were persuaded to do so by Aaron (who I believe is played by Makishima). Her hands are cut off and her tongue is cut out so that she can not speak or write down the name of her offenders. The parallel here is obvious, Oryo's cell phone has no reception (her tongue being cut out) and her hand is cut by the robot dog. I suppose the weird hunter man could be Chron or Demetrius, but to be honest it probably doesn't matter. Other than that, it seems Makishima is just being choosy about the lines apart from context and applying them to Oryo. The second quote is about a hunt, and Oyro is hunted. The fourth quote implies that Makishima will not listen to any excuses about Oyro's failure. The fifth and sixth quotes are physically applied to Oryo. The final line is said about Tomora, not Lavinia, but Makishima is seemingly just applying it to Oryo directly. Makishima has clearly prepared these quotes, which means that he probably knew Oryo would fail him and that he would have her hunted and killed. It seems he was just rubbing some Titus quotes in her face since she's familiar with the play. This whole arc so far has had a ton of Shakespeare references. For example: the class recites from Twelth Night in episode 6. At the end of episode 6, Makishima was discussing the fate of Lavinia with Oryo. For those wondering, Lavinia was eventually killed by Titus in an honor killing because she was raped. Oryo quotes "Because the girl should not survive her shame, And by her presence still renew his sorrows", which was said by Saturninus to Titus regarding Lavinia in Act V, Scene 3. If Oyro is Lavinia, Makishima may also be Titus in a way, as he had her "honor killed" for not performing up to his standards. If I'm right in comparing Makishima to Aaron, it's interesting to note that Aaron's last words were that he wished he could only do more evil. Another interesting point is that Makishima is ALSO being unoriginal by turning Oryo's death into a Shakespeare farce of sorts. The guy may enjoy entertainment, but I do not think he is some artistic genius. Though, I don't think it was implied that he is. Rather, I think he wants to supply the artistic geniuses with the tools to get things done. In summary, Makishima is insane. For the future, since there are flags in at least two episode for Shakespeare now, be on the lookout for parallels. However, Shakespeare might have only been utilized for Oryo's arc. This was fun to write and research. Please, anyone feel free to disagree with me regarding my short analysis or anything regarding the play. I'm familiar with the play, and I also went back to confirm context... but that doesn't make me a scholar in it. thanks a lot for this. Seems like we both are new in the forums just to discuss about this anime =) Linkark07 said: You never know. Maybe her head ended in the same substance (doesn't look like that though) they used to preserve the corpsesAww, I was expecting Rikako to become a "piece of art" too. That would have been the perfect end for that crazy woman. |
FerrasNov 30, 2012 7:45 AM
| Serves her right, being killed off like that in the end! |
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sagdashin said: Very good episode, but I find some of the philosophical and idealistic talk very extreme. You need some sort of higher education, like high school and up or you payed hardcore attention at middle school to understand all of this beyond the superficial. I study Psychology at university level right now so it's no problem here, but I just feel it's kinda extreme for the average viewer. Though I could be wrong, but I'd like to hear your guys opinions on this. Anyways 5/5, that bitch's dead <3 No, what you need is some curiosity and thirst for such knowledge. Schools only teach basics and universities are usually more specialized failing to give any general knowledge. When i was a kid in elementary school i had nothing to entertain myself than the bookshelf my mother put in the house. I was bored of doing homework and stuff but before i was 12 years old i had studied lots of authors and learn quite a lot of things from all that. Schools aren't really something that will make you a person of knowledge and culture, just something to get you started if you ever want to be such a person and mostly just a place to get a piece of paper so you can go to a university and specialize in something so you can work in some place. The current education system is nothing but a molting place for people to comfort into the society system. |
Monad said: Exactly and let me add that's it your responsibility and duty as a citizen to use of what molding you got to turn into a personal shape whom would be yourself and what you are to society.sagdashin said: Very good episode, but I find some of the philosophical and idealistic talk very extreme. You need some sort of higher education, like high school and up or you payed hardcore attention at middle school to understand all of this beyond the superficial. I study Psychology at university level right now so it's no problem here, but I just feel it's kinda extreme for the average viewer. Though I could be wrong, but I'd like to hear your guys opinions on this. Anyways 5/5, that bitch's dead <3 No, what you need is some curiosity and thirst for such knowledge. Schools only teach basics and universities are usually more specialized failing to give any general knowledge. When i was a kid in elementary school i had nothing to entertain myself than the bookshelf my mother put in the house. I was bored of doing homework and stuff but before i was 12 years old i had studied lots of authors and learn quite a lot of things from all that. Schools aren't really something that will make you a person of knowledge and culture, just something to get you started if you ever want to be such a person and mostly just a place to get a piece of paper so you can go to a university and specialize in something so you can work in some place. The current education system is nothing but a molting place for people to comfort into the society system. That guy in the first episode was a very good person and worker but in thee end even if he got his mold custom nice and working out, it's what he made of the scanners in thee end and how he ruined himself that he decided to shape up his mold like that. Hence effectively ruining himself like that. Point being is that the education is a tool, it's something you need to refine and not be dependent on the teachings only. IMO that is what Monad tries to convey and I added to it somewhat. Might be explaining it badly. |
| So the mad woman died,I hope to see more advancing with Mikishima. |
JavierR said: Holy shit that girl got violated. Bear trap, then getting her hand sliced, then finally getting her head blown off. soo many feel pity for the psycho Girl i dont get it at all why She DAMN DESERVED I>T |
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| She deserved that headshot the way she treated those girls. I was so glad to see that bitch die. |
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| Yeah, but she was a victim as well. A victim of the system. She lost her father and was trapped in that archaic school. She was insane and certainly didn't deserve to be free but she also didn't deserve to be hunted down like a dog, no one deserves that, not even the worst murderer. I actually feel sorry for all the girl's in that school they are over protected and being raised to not be able to handle any kind of stress. Her description of them as beautiful pieces of antique furniture is really telling. She couldn't see the same was true about herself. She was like a small child trying to continue her father's work without understanding it. She was twisted, sadistic and cruel but also a product of this fucked up system. She would have died no matter the circumstances because of the way this twisted society is setup. The society failed her, just as it failed so many of these criminals despite all the talk rehabilitation. Even the prison that Akane and Kougami visited is just letting the prisoners fall deeper into their delusions and perversions. The more I see of this society the more rotten it's core. And it's bred criminals that are more evil and fucked up than ever. |
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| How bad do you have to fail at parenting to have a kid with a coefficient of 472? Pretty fucking bad. |
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| I wonder what Makishima's coefficient would be? The painted guy in the prison was awesome. |
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YoshiTokugawa said: JavierR said: Holy shit that girl got violated. Bear trap, then getting her hand sliced, then finally getting her head blown off. soo many feel pity for the psycho Girl i dont get it at all why She DAMN DESERVED I>T I'm one of them that felt sorry for Rikako. Poor kid. DraconisMarch said: How bad do you have to fail at parenting to have a kid with a coefficient of 472? Pretty fucking bad. Well, her father was basically dead with that disease, and the nurses/people kept feeding her crap about him still being able to hear her and such. That negatively affected her mentality. Edit: Marzan said: I wonder what Makishima's coefficient would be? I didn't read all the posts or know if this was asked before, so I'll just do the obvious...  |
Gatchum_Bye-ByeNov 30, 2012 2:25 PM
| I hate how they get nowhere when it comes to capturing culprits. I hope we get to see an even more interesting arc. |
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| As we've all seen Kougami's the most intelligent agent we've seen so far in the series. When I saw that dude in confinement, the art on his skin reminded me of Hidan in his ritual mode. Rikako Ouryou on the other hand is not. She displays the corpse like the arts of her father and think that she wont get caught. Pretty dumb i'll say. Now she knows the pain and fear the other girls had to experience... well she felt it worse... she was still alive while being tortured; the other girls died from being poisoned, then iced and then disassembled. So Makishima's next target is Ko. This is going to be interesting. Sent with Mal Updater |
| How the hell did the school system fail to notice that Oryo's crime coefficient was over 400? Didn't they mention that the students had to undergo weekly or monthly scans, a few episodes back? I can only assume Makishima had something to do with that, protecting Oryo. |
| Now being this far into the anime, I can say I really hope it continues being this good. I love the style of pretty much everything. Akane's character design took a bit of getting used to, but everyone else in the force is really memorable. I can only hope it continues being at least this good. |
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Mormegil said: seems likely, given his hacking abilitiesHow the hell did the school system fail to notice that Oryo's crime coefficient was over 400? Didn't they mention that the students had to undergo weekly or monthly scans, a few episodes back? I can only assume Makishima had something to do with that, protecting Oryo. wonder if anyone ever tryed to hack the sybil system |
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| Holy shit that was raw but payback a bitch. even tho i saw the ending i still kinda feel bad for her for some reason. |
Yumekichi11 said: Monad said: Exactly and let me add that's it your responsibility and duty as a citizen to use of what molding you got to turn into a personal shape whom would be yourself and what you are to society.sagdashin said: Very good episode, but I find some of the philosophical and idealistic talk very extreme. You need some sort of higher education, like high school and up or you payed hardcore attention at middle school to understand all of this beyond the superficial. I study Psychology at university level right now so it's no problem here, but I just feel it's kinda extreme for the average viewer. Though I could be wrong, but I'd like to hear your guys opinions on this. Anyways 5/5, that bitch's dead <3 No, what you need is some curiosity and thirst for such knowledge. Schools only teach basics and universities are usually more specialized failing to give any general knowledge. When i was a kid in elementary school i had nothing to entertain myself than the bookshelf my mother put in the house. I was bored of doing homework and stuff but before i was 12 years old i had studied lots of authors and learn quite a lot of things from all that. Schools aren't really something that will make you a person of knowledge and culture, just something to get you started if you ever want to be such a person and mostly just a place to get a piece of paper so you can go to a university and specialize in something so you can work in some place. The current education system is nothing but a molting place for people to comfort into the society system. That guy in the first episode was a very good person and worker but in thee end even if he got his mold custom nice and working out, it's what he made of the scanners in thee end and how he ruined himself that he decided to shape up his mold like that. Hence effectively ruining himself like that. Point being is that the education is a tool, it's something you need to refine and not be dependent on the teachings only. IMO that is what Monad tries to convey and I added to it somewhat. Might be explaining it badly. yeah that was what I deduced after some time after i posted my first post. It's nice to see others opinion on knowledge and that school is not the only way to acquiring it - but rather personal interest, that's why some join schools of education when you're older i say, like me (You also got family pressure and so on, but that's irrelevant), and others pics up crafts, like drawing or something. |
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| bitch got what she deserved xDDD |
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| Glad this arc was ended this episode. I didn't dislike it, but I wouldn't want to have another episode spent on that girl. Definitely glad this isn't 1-cour. |
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| Rikako's expressions were so complex you could easily see the pain and fear in her eyes, it almost made me fell sorry for her... ALMOST~! |
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| What I think is amazing is that she thought she would get away with it, well in the beginning anyway. She should have surrender instead. I think that old guy passion is to hunt criminal. |
| Well end, well end ^_^ Still waiting for Akane to be more familiar with her job. She's so new to this it's almost cute. Couldn't give an opinion of her own, constantly amazed by things... And couldn't repeat what Kagami said about the murder being boring and reason behind it LOL! She's thick headed.... In some ways, I think she's perfect for her job as an Inspector. So far, nothing fazed her psychologically at all. I got a feeling that near the end of this series though, something will eventually get to her... and that is when the show will hit it's climax. |
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| Pretty good episode. I actually felt a little bad for the psycho girl. |
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| mixed feelings regarding her end... she deserved it, she FUCKING deserved it but.... damn.... also, dat ed <3 Mormegil said: How the hell did the school system fail to notice that Oryo's crime coefficient was over 400? Didn't they mention that the students had to undergo weekly or monthly scans, a few episodes back? from what i can understand, the civilian scans are only the 'Hue' scans, meaning stress levels, the Crime coef on the other hand seems reserved to the police, reserved so much that it can only be assessed via Dominator. |
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| Another great episode! umm I don't feel bad for the psycho bitch.. |
JeffreyZin said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Glad this arc was ended this episode. It didn't ended that well. I mean it's just out-of-nowhere. And it's because the case has been aborted & never solved. Bullshit.... I can't believed what I just witnessed. Now I'm really pissed (Sucks that we're gonna move on to a next case/story). next arc i dont think it is over the girl is dead well yeah but kougami knows that their is a guy in school who has the same last name thatn the photo file of the cold case and makishima founds his new plaything-- kougami will go to rhe next stage to track makishima down now |
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| Oh god, I'm in the middle of episode and... I think that's one of the dumbest anime episodes this year. I'm laughing so hard... Sword Art Online, kneel in front of Psycho-Pass. |
| Finally had time to watch this episode......ha that bitch is finally dead. |
| If strength is justice, then is powerlessness a crime? |
| Wow this is good although is a shame that Rikako is dead even though she is brutal(well I guess all of the criminals is the same as her) I wish she didn't die !! |
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| Yay the witch is dead what happened to her head? we flushed it down the toilet and round and round it goes and round and round it goes..... Boy Rikako deserved that she killed to bestfriends and I can't believe she did this crime for the revenge of her Father and society taking away everything....I say it was harsh for her father but no reason too kill,could of kept painting grusome stuff and keep it going What do you mean bright future? Shot to the head, head blown off wow !! Shinya in this case was really helpfull Felt sorry about his friend |
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| Yayoi said more than a sentence!!! She is my favorite character. Didn’t expect her to comfort that schoolgirl. And she told the girl to cry to prevent her hue from getting too cloudy. I wonder if Yayoi herself repressed her feelings to the point that she qualified as a latent criminal |
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| So hue scans are for mental / stress state.. And crime scans are for those who commits crime? Does that mean, as long as one haven't committed crime, his/her crime scans won't go high eventhough the hue is cloudy? and oh by the way, there're prisons for those whose CC above 300. I thought those kind of criminals all got instant death while pursued? |
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AkaNoYasha said: TBH I see myself as a Enforcer in this world and as of this episode I am getting more obsessed with the series than before.Yumekichi11 said: This was quite the feasts of feasts! RIKAKO IS DEAD! YEAAAAAAAAH! BABY! She is seen in the following, http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1354205428465_zpsbfc971a5.jpg http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1354205432571_zps709b116f.jpg http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1354205437545_zps1203191c.jpg http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1354205454165_zps3c8c0c09.jpg http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1354205589005_zpsbc887616.jpg To have her head blown off! And FLYING HIGH IN THE MUD! She really belongs TBH. That was a EPIC killing of her! EPIC! Exactly what she deserves! After the art here: http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/beber_zps651eed35.jpg http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1354205124395_zps3cd3e5a5.jpg HECK YEAH! She deserves all of it! To think that the following, http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1354204917073_zps92c7cbf0.jpg She would have died there. But as CSI Miami Caine would say. WE AIN’T BE FOOLED AGAIN! And so even after her escape they still followed her to her little place of hiding and it was the best way to find out the last art piece. I got to admit I am very happy and satisfied of Rikako’s death! She can ROT IN HELL! For all I care! She deserved: Her leg being caught in the trap in the following, http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1354205577866_zps1f4dd04d.jpg She deserved the pain expressions in the following, http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1354205391129_zps12a96043.jpg http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1354205400857_zps88d6255c.jpg http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1354205585098_zpse1804e20.jpg along with the bleeding! She most of all deserved all of those troubles till her final punishment DEATH! I may be hyper and CAPS on a lot but damn I AM YELLING IN HAPPINESS! Heck yeah! Glory to Raguel, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raguel_(angel) Archangel of Justice. This one is for him! Cause justice was dealt in thee end! And it’s all that mattered in avenging these poor girls and their tormented souls. To be finally free from injustice and R.I.P. If there is one last thing to say is that these poor girls deserve my T_T after all they will never have a good life nor family. Since they go killed. Rest of my thoughts may be more elaborated in the club! Your psycho pass must be high. o-o I could most likely pass for a Enforcer. Just do something stupid to get a 100 coefficient and you might be able to become one. Also the song "Make up syndrome" is my top 1 now. It's from this series. I hope they insert it soon cause it kicks ass big time! |
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