Quanzhi Gaoshou Episode 8 Discussion

lollideath said:


Hahhaahahah maybe some Glory fans did it, I dunno.....Tencent is located in Shenzhen, Guangdong, is Blue Rain there? I know Excellent Era is in Hangzhou...

le_halfhand_easy said:
Okay, I didn't really pay attention to watching this episode the first time because I was with someone. Now I rewatched it and I'm left dumbfounded.

Is this Magician guy lazy, complacent, or just incompetent? He's suppose to be helping these newbies in the training division yet he couldn't see for god knows how long what MC-kun noticed after just a few matches with Yifan? He's suppose to be helping the kid improve yet he couldn't be arsed enough to notice the playstyle doesn't suit the kid? Is our god MC-kun the only one with half a brain among these fast button mashers?

And don't get me started on the APM again. When you play the game at the highest level, the APM gap tends to narrow a lot. It becomes more about knowing all the options available to the enemy, predicting which one he'll choose, and then proactively stopping it instead of being reactive and defensive.

When you play a game with peers, its the prediction game that matters which comes down to boring things like good game sense, game knowledge, and vision. When there are four enemies missing on the minimap and you are overextending and in a bad position without any allies nearby, you know there is a good chance that they are ganking you. Because if you're in their shoes you'd be ganking your out of position ass too. You move to the trees, under the fog of war and teleport out as fast as you can. If your first warning of trouble isn't an empty minimap but a Fissure through the fog of war and a gank party jumping on top of you, you're dead.

For once could someone say "He's going to do this thing. How do I know? Because if I were him, that's what I'd do."

kyled00m said:

Gao Yingjie stood out as a bright star who could become the next Magician (inherit Wang Jiexi's character and title), so he is being trained to inherit it.

le_halfhand_easy said:
Okay, I didn't really pay attention to watching this episode the first time because I was with someone. Now I rewatched it and I'm left dumbfounded.

Is this Magician guy lazy, complacent, or just incompetent? He's suppose to be helping these newbies in the training division yet he couldn't see for god knows how long what MC-kun noticed after just a few matches with Yifan? He's suppose to be helping the kid improve yet he couldn't be arsed enough to notice the playstyle doesn't suit the kid? Is our god MC-kun the only one with half a brain among these fast button mashers?

pla-btoom said:


Wang Jiexi's personality is elusive BUT he said in the novel that Yifan would do better in another environment and he ain't stopping the kid from doing whatever he wants. Team Tiny Herb is 2 time champion so they require their members to strive harder than Ye Xiu's team; therefore, in such a pressure environment, Yifan would not do his best. Yifan showed some promising skills as an assassin but his ghostblade is better. All parties: Ye Xiu, Yifan, and Jiexi understand this dilemma so they accept Yifan's decision. It is a matter of where you grow up and Yifan doesn't do well in high pressured teams. In fact, Yifan is not even bullied in the novel version. The captain really respects his playstyle as a Ghostplay, even reprimands other Tiny Herb members for dissing Yifan when they find out Yifan's new character.

pla-btoom said:

All the tactics you said are in in the novel. The anime does a bad job at describing it but they do say some about the skills ( 4 shadow steps, aerial fire, curse trap, throwing weapons to lessen character's weight, etc) so you should not focus too much on the APM.

le_halfhand_easy said:


And don't get me started on the APM again. When you play the game at the highest level, the APM gap tends to narrow a lot. It becomes more about knowing all the options available to the enemy, predicting which one he'll choose, and then proactively stopping it instead of being reactive and defensive.

....

For once could someone say "He's going to do this thing. How do I know? Because if I were him, that's what I'd do."

chzcy said:

Say...why does captain Wang just HAS to notice the kid while there is an entire team for him to manage plus a much more promising player (Yingjie) to get trained also plus matches probably to play against the others? Could he just 'happen' to ignore this kid's talent simply because he's not bothered to invest time and effort on him? It's like asking why no one else in Log Horizon figured out how to make food tasty right before Nyanko Sensei did? (No offense, just don't quite get your logic)

le_halfhand_easy said:

Not much of a teacher then, is he? Did I say I have a problem with how they treated the kid? No. The problem was how could someone supposed to guide them, heck paid to guide them, can't be arsed enough to do stuff like guiding them. That's like a prof giving up on someone who's making the effort to pass without offering consultations.

Lemon said:
Yup. They're annoying canto speakers in G-city which is Guangzhou.

I shouldn't laugh about the Tencent fire but considering this comment chain it's kinda hilarious.

pla-btoom said:

No. The problem was how could someone supposed to guide them, heck paid to guide them, can't be arsed enough to do stuff like guiding them. That's like a prof giving up on someone who's making the effort to pass without offering consultations.

lollideath said:


Cough cough I am Cantonese Hakka and I speak s bit of canto I like Blue Rain >< Huang Shaotian, Lu Hanyun and Blue River are adorable ><
Beijing dialect speakers are more annoying including Ye Xiu
But I will support Big Eye Wang and his tiny herb even though it's a BJ team
The green theme color of tiny herb reminds me of their soccer team Beijing Guoan....who we call "green hair turtle" LOL

Lemon said:
lololololol 龟安 I feel you re: Ye Xiu's arrogant BJ grumble. The show's actually pretty standard on the voices, I expected heavier regional accents actually since the fans seem pretty into that.

I'm a Mando and Wu speaker, so there's always Samsara since Excellent Era was a bust but I doubt my real N-city bros at 呼啸 will appear this season.

lollideath said:

Ahh Samsara is in Wu area? The novel said it's in City X and I was thinking of Xiamen. Didn't know 呼啸 is in City N either. Ningbo? 赵禹哲 is pretty cute
Is Butterfly Blue from Wu area? So many teams there....

I saw people complain about YE Xiu's accent although I can hardly tell he has an accent...he has been living in HZ for about 10 years, it would be weird if he still speaks super Beijing-y.

Lemon said:
Nah 虚空 is in X. Like 呼啸 I don't think they've got an English name yet.

Samsara is in S, which people seem to agree is Shanghai but that Hangzhou to Shanghai plane journey?????? who knows... As for 呼啸 I root for Ningbo though Nanjing is the most popular guess ): 赵禹哲 is okay but this guy's so much more fun:



Butterfly Blue is from BJ but the Wu bias amongst the fans is so real:



Once a BJ人 always a BJ人. It's not taxi-driver level but idk man the way he always sounds like he's sneering, that 霸气...

chzcy said:

I fully understand why you don't like stories with an OP MC, but as far as I can see, everything is still holding up logically.

pla-btoom said:


Ah I have read the whole novel and I am just a bit uncomfortable with how much the MC and his team can get away with.
My feeling when reading the novel is like: Pick a fav who is not in his group -> watch it as they cry being destroyed, I cry -> pick another fav who is not in his group -> watch it as they cry being destroyed, I cry -> etc. I mean by the end of the novel, you will pretty much realize Ye Xiu is the only "evil" in this story. He comes here to fuck everyone up. (<- this is not spoiler, you guys know he is pretty shameless since episode 1). I don't deny he is an interesting character but he gets boring after 1700 chapters.

lollideath said:

I am already feeling the same after 600+ chapters....I am still reading because I want to know more about the other teams, but knowing that they will eventually be fucked by the OP MC is annoying

RafaelDeJongh said:
Nice episode and quite an interesting introduction of a new character at the end? Looking forward to see what's next!

SolonC said:


Dude really? U gonna marathon this season in one day? Why rush it man, take it easy, lol

RafaelDeJongh said:


I marathon practically everything, you might want to check my profile description ;) I must say though, that this series is slower as I do find it lacking in some parts, it's interesting but it doesn't keep my attention for two episodes after each other :p

FarrelMFajar said:
That detailed Logitech G900