Sword Art Online II Episode 23 Discussion

Bomb2chest said:

Not sure how it was unrealistic. Asuna really had no goal in life until now. She was confused about everything and now she has a sense of direction. Her mother noticed this and I imagine was happy inside. Her mother is still pushing her but not as hard and gave her some leeway.

Symqn said:
Well its almost over and even if this arc adapted well i think it didn't go well since its almost over the ending will probably suck watched SAO for VR fighting scenes and they pretty non existent.

Fireego said:
Dat OST. It really helps with the feels. (T_T)

Awesome, Yuuki's using the camera Kirito was developing to see the school.
Lol, Yuuki Yuuki.
So Yuuki is development for Asuna.

Lol at Yuuki and her mom. They're making fun of each other's weight/fat.
Yes Asuna, that's how you convince your mother! Hit her emotionally!
Since the next episode is Mother's Rosario, I think that might be the end of the arc.

DemianC said:
Lame!

The second half was so lame.

Where is Asuna from SAO arc? Stong-willed, brave and independent.
And now that, a weak, cowardly little girl, a sad excuse for a person

DemianC said:
Lame!

The second half was so lame.

Where is Asuna from SAO arc? Stong-willed, brave and independent.
And now that, a weak, cowardly little girl, a sad excuse for a person

I wanted at least one NO or something like that, "no mother this is my life".
In the end Asuna didn't win anything, her mother just "allowed" her to continue for now!

salmon3669 said:
You know, I've been thinking. Why are some people raving about how good SAO is and why some people just don't understand it. They just see it as meh.
When you actually think about it, alot was cut in the transfer from LN to anime. If you read many books, you probably know those imagery scenes that make you say WOW. Or those paragraphs using a few literary devices and descriptions to grab your attention and let you keep reading on and on and on. Well all that imagery you read in a book just got put into the anime as a background, and all those very detailed and wonderfully written descriptions and monologues that added dimensions on a character, just got put into the anime as a 10 second mention. Yeah it's okay. But it doesn't attract you like in the LN.
Vivid scene descriptions and monologues are what SAO is very good at. However, when translating to an anime, you have to understand that alot of those scenes have to be summarized because let's face it, the average anime-only watcher won't give a shit about a word for word, that would be pretty boring.
Leaving out small details however can cause some missing feelings that LN readers feel, but anime watchers don't. For instance remember that Death gun chase scene in GGO. In the LN's that was a tense scene, however in the anime, due to the lack of monologue, you don't actually know how the character feels and you don't really understand the characters well unless you try VERY hard to interpret the scene.
As a part LN reader, part anime watcher, I can see that there are some scenes where they just glossed over details that made you feel sorry for the character when reading it. In fact, I am pretty sure NO ONE who watched the anime feels sorry for Yuuki because all the people around her treated her like shit and some sort of monster that needed to be gone. All we got in the anime was:
Yuuki had AIDS. That's really all we got from this. You felt NOTHING for her because there was no description about her life or how she had to live a daily life. EVERYTHING is summarized.
I don't blame A-1 for summarizing. I mean those monologues and descriptions take many paragraphs, SOmetimes PAGES. It really hooks you on to the idea in the LN. IN the anime you basically get: "this happenned, that happenned, now that happenned". This is why I reccommend people to read LN. However if you truly, honestly hate the show and only watch it for the LOL's. Don't. Because I am very sure that like how LN readers opinions cloud how they see the anime adaptation, your opinions on the anime will cloud how you percieve the LN, no matter how many times people tell you Aincrad was adapted wrong.

My point is, I think some things are better as LN's then as animes. THat's why SAO has hype. It's well written. You really feel for the characters. HOwever as an anime, if you love LN's you probably wil love it since you won't realize you have extra details added to that scene you just watched that made it feel alive. As an anime-only, you'll probably feel it was meh and wonder why the hype was so high for these arcs.

Marenwynn said:
Asuna was never any of those things in reality. The whole point of this arc was to show that she was using virtual reality for escapism rather than facing her challenges. But now a little bit of SAO Asuna is bleeding into her real personality.

Reyxe said:
Not sure if trolling or stupid...

DemianC said:

Yes i know what do you mean, and you're right, but this is not the Asuna that we all knew and loved
And it is unrealistic you know, after 2 years on SAO in a life and death situation her character should be evolve, don't you think?

xxdeathx said:
Finally we see what the camera in the ending song animations was for.

Loli and preteen Asuna is the best thing ever omfg.

The yuri teasing is there—while Asuna says no, everybody else is like DAMN YES!

Bomb2chest said:
Even like how Yuuki was giving Asuna boy advice lol. You do know Kirito is in another world right ? lol

seraphzero said:

There's already enough content released for a season three and by the time season three ends, the arc should be over and we'll get the remainder in season four.

The only question is if the author is going to do another arc after Alicization.

salmon3669 said:
You know, I've been thinking. Why are some people raving about how good SAO is and why some people just don't understand it. They just see it as meh.
When you actually think about it, alot was cut in the transfer from LN to anime. If you read many books, you probably know those imagery scenes that make you say WOW. Or those paragraphs using a few literary devices and descriptions to grab your attention and let you keep reading on and on and on. Well all that imagery you read in a book just got put into the anime as a background, and all those very detailed and wonderfully written descriptions and monologues that added dimensions on a character, just got put into the anime as a 10 second mention. Yeah it's okay. But it doesn't attract you like in the LN.
Vivid scene descriptions and monologues are what SAO is very good at. However, when translating to an anime, you have to understand that alot of those scenes have to be summarized because let's face it, the average anime-only watcher won't give a shit about a word for word, that would be pretty boring.
Leaving out small details however can cause some missing feelings that LN readers feel, but anime watchers don't. For instance remember that Death gun chase scene in GGO. In the LN's that was a tense scene, however in the anime, due to the lack of monologue, you don't actually know how the character feels and you don't really understand the characters well unless you try VERY hard to interpret the scene.
As a part LN reader, part anime watcher, I can see that there are some scenes where they just glossed over details that made you feel sorry for the character when reading it. In fact, I am pretty sure NO ONE who watched the anime feels sorry for Yuuki because all the people around her treated her like shit and some sort of monster that needed to be gone. All we got in the anime was:
Yuuki had AIDS. That's really all we got from this. You felt NOTHING for her because there was no description about her life or how she had to live a daily life. EVERYTHING is summarized.
I don't blame A-1 for summarizing. I mean those monologues and descriptions take many paragraphs, SOmetimes PAGES. It really hooks you on to the idea in the LN. IN the anime you basically get: "this happenned, that happenned, now that happenned". This is why I reccommend people to read LN. However if you truly, honestly hate the show and only watch it for the LOL's. Don't. Because I am very sure that like how LN readers opinions cloud how they see the anime adaptation, your opinions on the anime will cloud how you percieve the LN, no matter how many times people tell you Aincrad was adapted wrong.

My point is, I think some things are better as LN's then as animes. THat's why SAO has hype. It's well written. You really feel for the characters. HOwever as an anime, if you love LN's you probably wil love it since you won't realize you have extra details added to that scene you just watched that made it feel alive. As an anime-only, you'll probably feel it was meh and wonder why the hype was so high for these arcs.

Takuan_Soho said:


Humm, I have to go back to check because I think they skipped that line, but yes Yuuki is very very well aware of that, actually far more so then Asuna or for that matter any else. Yuuki and Kirito are the most similar to one another (which is why Kirito could guess about Yuuki), too similar probably to become friends without Asuna as the medium, but yes they both understand one another.

Kurogashi said:
yeah... the mom scene for some reason hit me with the feels train a lot more than yuki's. i dont even know why she's crying. is she crying cause asuna is finally moving forward? is she crying cause she's come so far and only now reminiscing about the past and her own mom/dad? probably the latter. she probably finally learned how much her own mom/dad cared for her -- keeping that house specifically for her to return to, if or when she ever becomes too tired. :') guess now she wants to set an example for asuna.

Bomb2chest said:
Yuuki said the line right after the whole will you marry joke. Yuuki goes on to ask you have someone you care about already. Asuna goes yes and she says be careful "I get the feeling that he lives outside reality in a different way than I do".

Danpmss said:
SAO - Aincrad
6.5/10

SAO - Fairy Tail
3/10

SAO - Phantom Bullet
7/10 first half, 4.5/10 second half

SAO - Calibur
4/10

SAO - Mother's Rosario
Calculating... (so far 3.5/10)
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Takuan_Soho said:


Thanks, glad they captured it, but they sort of whiffed on the nuance. Asuna's laugh gave the indication that she understood, but the LN is quite clear that she didn't understand what Yuuki meant.

But still glad they did the line, my high opinion of A-1 remains. Sucks that they have to cut things out, but its not their fault, writers have space, animators don't.

HazukashiiDesu said:

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