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Jul 3, 2016 6:42 PM

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Well that felt nostalgic.

But still, not really used to the CGI stuff yet and action scenes. I really dig the music they used for the episode though especially upon Guts remembering about Griffith. So in essence, the show assumes the viewers are pretty familiar with the franchise already. Seeing Guts kicking ass was a pleasant sight to see though even with the narration except the shitty choreography.

Lol Puck


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Jul 3, 2016 6:48 PM
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Damn... 16 pages full of hate lol

That's what happens when your expectations are to high, this show has more hate than shcool days and it's only episode 1 lol. Shows not even that bad just mindless hating.


Actually it's not mindless hating, Berserk is not some no name manga, so fans must wonder why these adaptations are so bad. I can understand why they left out the two volumes that they did (no way were those suitable for TV) but why are the production values like this? Why can't do they mix CG and hand drawn like Arslan? Why must they give us this god awful CG? It's not even on the level of Knights of Sidonia...

Also when the movie studio final got the hang of the CG, they switch them out... fucking why??
Jul 3, 2016 7:31 PM

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Pretty disappointing episode, and I'm not even a manga reader. I usually don't care much about the animation quality, but this was pretty bad. Those shading scratches looks very out of place when used with the CGI in this show, and the character movements are so robotic. At least in Ajin, the facial expressions and body movements were animated nicely, but in Berserk, the animations are on the same level as late PS1/early PS2 cutscenes. Comparing Berserk 97 to Berserk 2016 is like going from Splinter Cell Chaos Theory to Conviction.
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Jul 3, 2016 9:29 PM

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land161 said:
Pretty disappointing episode, and I'm not even a manga reader. I usually don't care much about the animation quality, but this was pretty bad. Those shading scratches looks very out of place when used with the CGI in this show, and the character movements are so robotic. At least Ajin, the facial expressions and body movements were animated nicely, but in Berserk, the animations are on the same level as late PS1/early PS2 cutscenes. Comparing Berserk 97 to Berserk 2016 is like going from Splinter Cell Chaos Theory to Conviction.
not feeling the animation myself either....the artwork in the manga is just so phenominal to see the animation they went with for this series was just.....uhhhhh.
Jul 3, 2016 9:34 PM

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it's here it's here IT'S HERE IT'S HERE IT'S FINALY HERE IT'S HERE.
dont really care for the animation much, the CGI gets pretty distracting, it doesnt really capture the feel overly well. feels like a video game cut scene at parts..man....like it's bothersome.....but it's here...... Berserk the dark age is here Farness and the HICK's are animated brruuuhhhhhhh the dark age is HERE!!! and it's animated!!!! it's finaly animated people it's finaly animated people!!
Jul 3, 2016 9:42 PM

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people. we need to take a minute and revisit a classic ED song to at least celebrate the return of berserk listening to it again just gives me chills

Jul 3, 2016 9:43 PM

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Jrockfanboy said:
Damn... 16 pages full of hate lol

All Aboard! The Hatred Express.

Oh look, there's something on the tracks...

Jul 3, 2016 9:47 PM

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okay one thing i have to say that's a little disturbing though is that they introduced Shriek and Flora this early.
Jul 3, 2016 9:50 PM

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I put my grasses on yet why did everything go wong?
Jul 3, 2016 11:10 PM

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At least its 90% CG so they went 90% lazy unlike other studios that were too lazy to animate something in the background.

WHAT A GLORIOUS CAPE!
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Jrockfanboy said:
Damn... 16 pages full of hate lol

All Aboard! The Hatred Express.

Oh look, there's something on the tracks...


xD ahahahahahaha
Jul 3, 2016 11:53 PM

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I hate puck so much, and Miura's obsession with idolmaster, lolis, and wanting to turn this into a harem manga!

Take the recent shitty plot and add come badly recycled CG that aspires to be a ps3 game to it, but fails, and that's the future of the animation adaptations, i don't even know what's the point to all this.
Jul 4, 2016 12:06 AM
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I hate puck so much, and Miura's obsession with idolmaster, lolis, and wanting to turn this into a harem manga!

What obsession? He just made a comment once that he enjoyed playing it and people started a joke about him slowing down with Berserk because he's too busy playing Idolmaster.
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I think people need to realize that CG is going to become the norm in anime because it's much more efficient in terms of production than traditional 2d hand drawn animation


True, but that doesnt make it not-shit
Jul 4, 2016 12:14 AM

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RIP Berserk anime
Jul 4, 2016 12:21 AM

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Alrightyyy, seems like it's more of a "sequel" of sorts. Meh, better put it on hold then or just drop it for the time being.


I suggest...drop it and watch the original anime, its not like this piece of shit.
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FUCKING AWESOME! 100/10

Even if the animation isn't the best, that epic story line makes up for it. Also love they used the soundtracks of the movies. Everything looking great for the upcoming episodes.

Can't complain like the rest, is better to have some Berserk than nothing (specially a continuation). If you read the manga you'll know things are about to get epic on this new season.


I have to disagree but "its better than nothing" Its so bad imo that I think nothing is better.

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never read the manga or saw the anime, but this was terrible. The art style is just plain bad. CGI doesn't bother me, but the zoom and the shading are just a disaster. I thought this would be good.


Its horrible. berserk is a masterpiece but this pathetic attempt of an adaption is just disgusting and a total slap to the face of not only the fans, but also the author himself.

Do yourself a BIIIIG favor, drop this and watch the original anime, not the movies, the original anime from 1997, it may be old but its not so old that people from today can't enjoy, its amazing and the soundtrack is perfection.

Or read the manga. This new series is a sequel anyway so your going to be confused.

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More hype than One Punch man -cough-


At least One Punch Man delivered on what it was and was faithful to the manga...this is a whole new level of shite.


Thanks I'll drop this and pick that up. It shocks m that they made a sequel what 17 years later O.O
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daAmazinFatB0y said:
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lol, I got to be positive about it, first tv series we get like in 20 years. But honestly Berserk deserves the greatest animation, not this.

BTW looking at the preview I don't think the mist village arc will get animated. Damn, I loved that arc.


I never read the mangaso I wouldn't know


Damn you are missing a lot. Go and read it from the beginning, there are a lot of important things that happen that the anime has cut out in the past, and probably will continue to do so. But yeah, go and read it, it's arguably the best manga ever made.
Jul 4, 2016 1:02 AM
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awesome OST

Should I stop watching it and watch original first?
Jul 4, 2016 1:29 AM
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awesome OST

Should I stop watching it and watch original first?

Honestly, I'd suggest reading the manga instead. The original anime, while good, did remove most of the lighthearted and comedic moments in the manga, so if you transition from the original anime to this one you'll probably get really annoyed by how Puck seems inconsistent with the tone of the story.
Jul 4, 2016 1:34 AM
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When I heard the sound of Gut's sword, this is all i could see.
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Shitty animation but the music and voice acting was good. I haven't watched the movies nor the previous TV show, but I'm just going to watch this.

EDIT: just watched the movies + the old show.
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i think is awesome guyz :) no offense ahaha
Jul 4, 2016 4:26 AM

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Bozzzz said:
awesome OST

Should I stop watching it and watch original first?
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watch original first. Your going to be confused.
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Jul 4, 2016 4:28 AM

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I never read the mangaso I wouldn't know


Damn you are missing a lot. Go and read it from the beginning, there are a lot of important things that happen that the anime has cut out in the past, and probably will continue to do so. But yeah, go and read it, it's arguably the best manga ever made.


Oh i know lol belive me i know. I started with the anime so I wanted to continue it that way but this adaption fucked the whole plan. So the manga is my next and probs best option
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Jul 4, 2016 4:30 AM

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Shitty animation but the music and voice acting was good. I haven't watched the movies nor the previous TV show, but I'm just going to watch this.


You may get confused though since it is a sequel. I highly recomend you watch the original anime first, skip the movies as there not needed.
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As disappointing as some of the direction and music was, along with CG usage (tho it wasn't as bad as some of 10FPS parts in movies), Berserk manga fanboys are nutty: the manga has been shitty ever since Miura decided to go shounen-harem with JRPG elements for, what... 10vols+? And Miura doesn't even know what to do anymore. Manga still #1 with 9.24 average.

As not-so-great as this was, it wasn't 6/10 MAL-average bad. The cart scene was decent in terms of pacing/atmosphere. Until the boner knights / tree, anyway. Most worrying aspect was it rushing thru the few remaining good volumes series has to offer.
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daAmazinFatB0y said:
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Shitty animation but the music and voice acting was good. I haven't watched the movies nor the previous TV show, but I'm just going to watch this.


You may get confused though since it is a sequel. I highly recomend you watch the original anime first, skip the movies as there not needed.



This was a sequel? Oh, I'll watch the first show. Thanks.

Jul 4, 2016 5:34 AM

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xull said:
daAmazinFatB0y said:


You may get confused though since it is a sequel. I highly recomend you watch the original anime first, skip the movies as there not needed.



This was a sequel? Oh, I'll watch the first show. Thanks.


Yup. Those flashbacks you saw in his nightmare was stuff that happened before.
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Jul 4, 2016 6:07 AM

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This was a sequel? Oh, I'll watch the first show. Thanks.


Yup. Those flashbacks you saw in his nightmare was stuff that happened before.



Yeah I got confused bc I read like 3 chapters in the manga and first episode is like first chapter so I though it was a new show.

Jul 4, 2016 6:13 AM
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there is a flashback arc after first arc in manga..and all adaptation start from flashback portion so people get confused.
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Wow, there were some pretty great looking glimpses of tight animation poured in between all that amateurish CGI crap. Pretty saddening to see what could have been within such an awful display of absolute carelessness. I'm also disappointed to not even get to see Guts slicing that guy in halves in all its animated glory in that first scene, because to me that's one of the most iconic intro scenes to any manga ever.
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xull said:
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Yup. Those flashbacks you saw in his nightmare was stuff that happened before.



Yeah I got confused bc I read like 3 chapters in the manga and first episode is like first chapter so I though it was a new show.


Nah. They stated that they would adapt the arc, The Blackswordsman, which is set after the Golden Age arc. Golden Age Arc is the 1st arc in the manga. Its a flashback arc.

In other words, 1st few chapters in the manga is the Blackswordsman arc but then they cut off to the flashback arc Called Golden Age. The original series begins to cover that in episode 2.

I hope that made sense
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Jul 4, 2016 6:46 AM

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Cg was absolute shit, i'd say that a fan made animation would be better.
This adaptation is ruining the franchise
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Wow, there were some pretty great looking glimpses of tight animation poured in between all that amateurish CGI crap. Pretty saddening to see what could have been within such an awful display of absolute carelessness. I'm also disappointed to not even get to see Guts slicing that guy in halves in all its animated glory in that first scene, because to me that's one of the most iconic intro scenes to any manga ever.


Original anime does this or at least he does kill them with his lump of metal lol
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Yeah I got confused bc I read like 3 chapters in the manga and first episode is like first chapter so I though it was a new show.


Nah. They stated that they would adapt the arc, The Blackswordsman, which is set after the Golden Age arc. Golden Age Arc is the 1st arc in the manga. Its a flashback arc.

In other words, 1st few chapters in the manga is the Blackswordsman arc but then they cut off to the flashback arc Called Golden Age. The original series begins to cover that in episode 2.

I hope that made sense



Yes that made sense, thank you.

Jul 4, 2016 7:01 AM
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CG is sh*t. The studios needs to learn that people (at least i don't) want that. It might be cheaper or whatever but it's uglier. If every new anime becomes CG i'll stay with the old ones.

Enjoy your life, CGI is not all that bad (although not good enough).
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xull said:
daAmazinFatB0y said:


Yup. Those flashbacks you saw in his nightmare was stuff that happened before.



Yeah I got confused bc I read like 3 chapters in the manga and first episode is like first chapter so I though it was a new show.

How come you didn't continue reading the manga?


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Yeah I got confused bc I read like 3 chapters in the manga and first episode is like first chapter so I though it was a new show.


Nah. They stated that they would adapt the arc, The Blackswordsman, which is set after the Golden Age arc. Golden Age Arc is the 1st arc in the manga. Its a flashback arc.

In other words, 1st few chapters in the manga is the Blackswordsman arc but then they cut off to the flashback arc Called Golden Age. The original series begins to cover that in episode 2.

I hope that made sense

Golden Age is the second arc in the manga, but chronologically within the series it's the first arc.

Also the Black Swordsman Arc is made of a couple volumes, so only a fraction has been adapted in the original anime.
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I just, this weekend, found about Madhouse's treatment of reviving HunterxHunter in 2011.

Maybe in a couple years when Berserk is actually done, it'll get that same treatment.

If any anime is deserving of it, it's Berserk. Just follow the comic, page 1 to the end. Simple, no?
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I just, this weekend, found about Madhouse's treatment of reviving HunterxHunter in 2011.

Maybe in a couple years when Berserk is actually done, it'll get that same treatment.

If any anime is deserving of it, it's Berserk. Just follow the comic, page 1 to the end. Simple, no?

Considering the fact that Madhouse is one of the few anime studios left to take big risks, I seriously don't understand why they haven't adapted Berserk yet. And it's not like you need to take risks for something like Berserk either...
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Shitty animation but the music and voice acting was good. I haven't watched the movies nor the previous TV show, but I'm just going to watch this.

How the fuck can you know what's going on and understand the characters' behavior and motivations when you don't know their backstories...
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RealCW said:
I just, this weekend, found about Madhouse's treatment of reviving HunterxHunter in 2011.

Maybe in a couple years when Berserk is actually done, it'll get that same treatment.

If any anime is deserving of it, it's Berserk. Just follow the comic, page 1 to the end. Simple, no?

Considering the fact that Madhouse is one of the few anime studios left to take big risks, I seriously don't understand why they haven't adapted Berserk yet. And it's not like you need to take risks for something like Berserk either...

RIGHT!? Making a good Berserk anime is not a risk. If they adapt the story correctly with good animation it's like a GUARENTEED success... Berserk is like the greatest manga ever
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I think this TH is to talk about this chapter, you can't say "The serie is going to be garbage" becouse you don't know! people, you just saw the first episode dont say this "berserk is never going to have a good adaptation" becouse maybe this will be a good one, we still don't know. I agree with most of you that the CGI is kind unconfortable for us but it can get better, WE DON'T KNOW. I recommend you people still watching the serie until at least chapter 3 or 4 and then i will hear every "This is garbage" or "berserk is never going to be good as an anime" and stuff. Thanks for reading.
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Lmao this anime is ranked #12 out of pure fucking hype while everyone thinks the first episode is shit


Ranked 12 becouse of it's popularity, not becouse of it's CGI of course. Just watch a couple more episodes, it can get better, we dont know yet.
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xull said:
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Yup. Those flashbacks you saw in his nightmare was stuff that happened before.



Yeah I got confused bc I read like 3 chapters in the manga and first episode is like first chapter so I though it was a new show.


Yes, the manga begins like this new serie and then he "remember his past" which is this old serie that people are telling you to watch. It's worth watching, really dark serie.
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Way to waste money on crappy CGI

1/5 for the drawing which is often very faithfull to the manga ... except for the main character lol
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All this backlash reminds me of the response to the new King of Fighters game.
I love Berserk, and I think despite this obvious dip in production quality those who like the series should at least give it a decent chance. We haven't seen much yet, but this could turn out to be a great retelling of an awesome story.
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I just want to know who the hell is studio GEMBA and why is a studio that mostly accustomed to moe anime doing a gritty dark fantasy like Berserk?
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CGI or what not, will be watching this for Schierke. >.<
I guess everybody really hates CGI eh?
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CGI or what not, will be watching this for Schierke. >.<
I guess everybody really hates CGI eh?
Nah, Pixar and Dreamworks can do some damn good CGI and if the staff wanted, they could make a sick clip of Berserk in top quality CGI.
Instead we get shitty graphics from the studio whose only anime on their resume is Teekyuu
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I've never read the manga or watched the original so I'm going into this blind as my first experience with Berserk.

From the first episode it seems like this anime is going to be over the top gore and action without any substance behind it. I'm not a big fan of CG but I don't outright hate it, especially if the anime itself is good. I'm not really impressed so far but I'll give it another episode or two before I consider dropping.
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