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Feb 18, 2015 3:56 AM

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Raziel1991 said:
My issue here is that Marlycian was hilariously stupid. It should have been really obvious what Slaine was trying to do the moment he entered the tunnels and this is no about physics, we are talking about but basic military strategy.


Given how stupid the counts have been in all other situations, I wasn't surprised in the slightest. Expectations were low. The fact he even had a mech with a good ability already put him higher than quite a few.
Feb 18, 2015 4:06 AM

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ANGRY2011 said:
Raziel1991 said:
My issue here is that Marlycian was hilariously stupid. It should have been really obvious what Slaine was trying to do the moment he entered the tunnels and this is no about physics, we are talking about but basic military strategy.


Given how stupid the counts have been in all other situations, I wasn't surprised in the slightest. Expectations were low. The fact he even had a mech with a good ability already put him higher than quite a few.


The other counts were so cocky they made dump moves, but Curly was fighting another Vers kata even if his mech countered the Tharsis it was stupid to get cocky and lower his guard, his kata had good power aswell imo it's 3rd topped by Tharsis and Laser-kun
Feb 18, 2015 4:25 AM
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I can't believe NO one seems to answer these kind of question when it comes to Slaine VS Marlycian....

REALLY?! NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THIS?! Geez, people nowadays... now I see why they don't care over everything I said like:-

JeffreyZin said:
I realized when the duel scene between Slaine & Count Marycian (or Idk who the hell it is), where Slaine won the fight but sending marycian out of space where you couldn't breathe!

GEEZ, YOU GONNA KILL THAT GUY! WAY TO GO, ASSHOLE!
Feb 18, 2015 4:39 AM

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JeffreyZin said:
I can't believe NO one seems to answer these kind of question when it comes to Slaine VS Marlycian....

REALLY?! NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THIS?! Geez, people nowadays... now I see why they don't care over everything I said like:-

JeffreyZin said:
I realized when the duel scene between Slaine & Count Marycian (or Idk who the hell it is), where Slaine won the fight but sending marycian out of space where you couldn't breathe!

GEEZ, YOU GONNA KILL THAT GUY! WAY TO GO, ASSHOLE!


I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but if you're just commenting on the duel ending with a death, I was sure from the instant the duel was declared that both sides were going to go for a lethal victory. It would be the fastest way for Marlycian to get rid of Slaine and the fastest way for Slaine to show dominance.

I don't know if Vers duels are required to be to the death either, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Slaine did pretty well not only killing his foe, but saving the mech from irreparable damage.
Feb 18, 2015 9:23 AM

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The whole show looks like it has kind of been parred down to Inaho vs. Slaine for all the marbles so I guess it's only fitting that the conversation has been parred down to what looks like the same albeit with a ridiculously prolonged episode discussion thread.
Feb 18, 2015 10:07 AM

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This season isn't playing, lol. Inaho watching Slaine's battle in space was a bit too much for me though.
Feb 18, 2015 10:19 AM
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OH SNAP SHE AWAKES! Oh this is going to be glorious! The Honeymoon is about to come to an end


whose? Slaine's? Inaho's? the fans that want her to end up with Inaho? Slaine fans?

I hope she makes it to Inaho under her own initiative, really fights for it, fighting Slaine and the rest of Vers to do it; they could choose to turn her into a kickass baddie. I know this badass thing is very unlikely, she needs to be helpless in most hero stories- we rarely get a Neytiri or a Miriam Ravenwood (from the first Indiana Jones movie).

... and I REALLY hope they don't go the amnesia route, but that seems like some kind of standard in anime so I'm pretty much resigned to it.
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Feb 18, 2015 1:33 PM

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ridiculously prolonged? please, it's halfway into the next week and hasn't hit 50 pages yet.
Feb 18, 2015 1:34 PM

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fst said:
ridiculously prolonged? please, it's halfway into the next week and hasn't hit 50 pages yet.


Slaine hasn't had a big enough fuck up last time.
Feb 18, 2015 2:16 PM

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I am sorry to barge into the usual fight, but could you remind me the story of Deucalion. As far as I remember, Deucalion is the ship of the late king. But then once we discussed that its aldnoah core was the one used in Orlaine's gravity modifying kat. But then how had the ship worked before the Heaven's fall? Or was it remade later in the laboratory? I completely forgot.
Feb 18, 2015 2:36 PM

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deadoptimist said:
I am sorry to barge into the usual fight, but could you remind me the story of Deucalion. As far as I remember, Deucalion is the ship of the late king. But then once we discussed that its aldnoah core was the one used in Orlaine's gravity modifying kat. But then how had the ship worked before the Heaven's fall? Or was it remade later in the laboratory? I completely forgot.

Decalion (the M-Kat) got wrecked in Heaven's Fall. UFE (or whoever) salvaged the M-Kat's Gravity control engine and Aldnoah Drive to make the ship. But since it's pilot was dead the Drive was deactivated. So the ship was basically useless for however long its been there, until Asseylum activated it.

The better question is, why did the UFE bother making a ship with a Drive they couldn't even activate?
Are you, are you,
coming to the tree?
A necklace of rope,
side by side with me.
Strange things did happen
and no stranger would it be,
If we met at midnight,
in the hanging tree.
Feb 18, 2015 2:55 PM

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Sykosis said:
deadoptimist said:
I am sorry to barge into the usual fight, but could you remind me the story of Deucalion. As far as I remember, Deucalion is the ship of the late king. But then once we discussed that its aldnoah core was the one used in Orlaine's gravity modifying kat. But then how had the ship worked before the Heaven's fall? Or was it remade later in the laboratory? I completely forgot.

Decalion (the M-Kat) got wrecked in Heaven's Fall. UFE (or whoever) salvaged the M-Kat's Gravity control engine and Aldnoah Drive to make the ship. But since it's pilot was dead the Drive was deactivated. So the ship was basically useless for however long its been there, until Asseylum activated it.

The better question is, why did the UFE bother making a ship with a Drive they couldn't even activate?


I'm gonna laugh if Slaine's dad helped make the Deucalion
Feb 18, 2015 2:56 PM

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Sykosis said:
Decalion (the M-Kat) got wrecked in Heaven's Fall. UFE (or whoever) salvaged the M-Kat's Gravity control engine and Aldnoah Drive to make the ship. But since it's pilot was dead the Drive was deactivated. So the ship was basically useless for however long its been there, until Asseylum activated it.

The better question is, why did the UFE bother making a ship with a Drive they couldn't even activate?


Thanks!
So, I guess, the ship belonging to the young king was false. But where have I heard it then?..

Darklight0303 said:
I'm gonna laugh if Slaine's dad helped make the Deucalion


Why? Dou you hate Slaine's relatives too, even though they had no part in the story and almost no influence on his development?
It would be good, to promote drama and because it would be better to finally remember about dr. Troyard's story.
Feb 18, 2015 3:15 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
I'm gonna laugh if Slaine's dad helped make the Deucalion


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Why? Dou you hate Slaine's relatives too, even though they had no part in the story and almost no influence on his development?
It would be good, to promote drama and because it would be better to finally remember about dr. Troyard's story.


I would murder someone for a backstory on Slaine's dad. Having him mentioned as a scientist that worked with the Aldnoah drives so many times is just begging for flashback scenes, or at least some revelation to Slaine about the secrets of Aldnoah. Something....

Anyways, it's pretty clear by looking at past threads that Darklight hates every single thing about Slaine and isn't changing his mind. If you start discussing theories about Slaine's motivations or history with his father, it's just going to devolve into "Slaine's insane", "How dare he kidnap princess. Princess for Inaho", "I can't wait until Inaho kills Slaine", "Slaine has no plan. I hate Slaine", ect. He's free to like and hate characters, but I don't think there is rational discussion to be had.
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deadoptimist said:
Sykosis said:
Decalion (the M-Kat) got wrecked in Heaven's Fall. UFE (or whoever) salvaged the M-Kat's Gravity control engine and Aldnoah Drive to make the ship. But since it's pilot was dead the Drive was deactivated. So the ship was basically useless for however long its been there, until Asseylum activated it.

The better question is, why did the UFE bother making a ship with a Drive they couldn't even activate?


Thanks!
So, I guess, the ship belonging to the young king was false. But where have I heard it then?..

Darklight0303 said:
I'm gonna laugh if Slaine's dad helped make the Deucalion


Why? Dou you hate Slaine's relatives too, even though they had no part in the story and almost no influence on his development?
It would be good, to promote drama and because it would be better to finally remember about dr. Troyard's story.


No because I would love for his father's work to be used against Slaine. He's a karmic punching bag of a character
Feb 18, 2015 4:11 PM
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Darklight0303 said:
deadoptimist said:


Thanks!
So, I guess, the ship belonging to the young king was false. But where have I heard it then?..



Why? Dou you hate Slaine's relatives too, even though they had no part in the story and almost no influence on his development?
It would be good, to promote drama and because it would be better to finally remember about dr. Troyard's story.


No because I would love for his father's work to be used against Slaine. He's a karmic punching bag of a character


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Feb 18, 2015 4:17 PM
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Savethebestforu said:
Darklight0303 said:
I'm gonna laugh if Slaine's dad helped make the Deucalion


Deadoptimist said:
Why? Dou you hate Slaine's relatives too, even though they had no part in the story and almost no influence on his development?
It would be good, to promote drama and because it would be better to finally remember about dr. Troyard's story.


I would murder someone for a backstory on Slaine's dad. Having him mentioned as a scientist that worked with the Aldnoah drives so many times is just begging for flashback scenes, or at least some revelation to Slaine about the secrets of Aldnoah. Something....

Anyways, it's pretty clear by looking at past threads that Darklight hates every single thing about Slaine and isn't changing his mind. If you start discussing theories about Slaine's motivations or history with his father, it's just going to devolve into "Slaine's insane", "How dare he kidnap princess. Princess for Inaho", "I can't wait until Inaho kills Slaine", "Slaine has no plan. I hate Slaine", ect. He's free to like and hate characters, but I don't think there is rational discussion to be had.


The backstory given so far doesn't make a lot of sense.

I would think a scientist "studying Aldnoah" would have a physics background, maybe some kind of research-oriented engineering.

From Saazbaum's story it seems Troyard was a medical pro, maybe a surgeon or an MD- not something most hard scientists would be good at.

But maybe Aldnoah has a biological basis (not only a biological on/off switch), in which case a science-focused MD might be competent at studying it.
Feb 18, 2015 5:14 PM

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awditty said:


The backstory given so far doesn't make a lot of sense.

I would think a scientist "studying Aldnoah" would have a physics background, maybe some kind of research-oriented engineering.

From Saazbaum's story it seems Troyard was a medical pro, maybe a surgeon or an MD- not something most hard scientists would be good at.

But maybe Aldnoah has a biological basis (not only a biological on/off switch), in which case a science-focused MD might be competent at studying it.


You also have to wonder why he brought his 10 year old son with him. Is Slaine's mother dead? Did his dad know that Vers was a racist feudal society? Was he forced into traveling to Vers, or did he want to? What kind of terran can earn the respect of Saazbaum so much that he saves his son to repay him? Did Slaine even see his dad at all? So many questions just because of Slaine's father, but none have been answered. He seems like such an enigma.

If his dad is just used as a plot device to explain why Slaine, a terran, is serving Vers, I'm going to be upset.
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Savethebestforu said:
awditty said:


The backstory given so far doesn't make a lot of sense.

I would think a scientist "studying Aldnoah" would have a physics background, maybe some kind of research-oriented engineering.

From Saazbaum's story it seems Troyard was a medical pro, maybe a surgeon or an MD- not something most hard scientists would be good at.

But maybe Aldnoah has a biological basis (not only a biological on/off switch), in which case a science-focused MD might be competent at studying it.


You also have to wonder why he brought his 10 year old son with him. Is Slaine's mother dead? Did his dad know that Vers was a racist feudal society? Was he forced into traveling to Vers, or did he want to? What kind of terran can earn the respect of Saazbaum so much that he saves his son to repay him? Did Slaine even see his dad at all? So many questions just because of Slaine's father, but none have been answered. He seems like such an enigma.

If his dad is just used as a plot device to explain why Slaine, a terran, is serving Vers, I'm going to be upset.


Because you do not watch the extras of blu-ray.
There you find is beautiful story
He traveled with his father all over the world and then finally to Mars because of his father's obsession with Aldnoah research. His father was too absorbed with his research that he really couldn't take care of Slaine, so Slaine moved into the castle and lived with Asseylum, where they became friends. His father dies three years after getting to Mars and so custody of Slaine is given to Cruhteo. Cruhteo treats him like a servant and he lives with him for two years.

This all happens because you do not demand extra materials and does not know the story, you simply formulates its fractions through their own theories, and not the facts



Slaine always traveled with his father in their research trips.
Until it reached Mars.
While his father was obsessed with Aldnoah research, Slaine goes to live in the castle with his little friend Asseylum. Where he develops his Revolutionary skills, and their Politico skills,
through play as, house, get caught, fairy tale books, the children's book about animals, hide and seek. In this period also Slaine shows his great intelligence, and teaches wrongly, about why the sky is blue..
In the castle he played house with Asseylum, and this box of tricks.
And in this house to play with Asseylum through his wonderful childhood playing with her Asseylum friend, he developed the knowledge of a revolutionary, also learned about tactical battles, and piloting skills, Slaine also acquired a great political knowledge, having tea with the Asseylum.
The skills as a pilot in the saw when he worked with Trillram, he passes out in the middle of the battle of fear.
Really a lot of people too lazy to do a search, it is much easier to create theories and arguments of your own taste, than just research and take a look at the extra content, to learn more about the history
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seujair31 said:

This all happens because you do not demand extra materials and does not know the story, you simply formulates its fractions through their own theories, and not the facts

Really a lot of people too lazy to do a search, it is much easier to create theories and arguments of your own taste, than just research and take a look at the extra content, to learn more about the history


I don't think it's anyone's duty to research anything. Aldnoah Zero is a TV show, and most people that watch this show aren't going to buy the blu-ray. It doesn't have a light novel and it didn't have a manga. It is an anime original, so there was/is no extra information. I don't know why you would leave out this information in your main story, other than to create an extra incentive for people to buy the blue-rays. But even then, really? Who is going to want to buy the blu-ray because of backstories to characters. Isn't that essential to what makes a character? Why was none of this information in the show? That's like...important information that they left out.
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Oh baby are they fighting lighting-kun?
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Savethebestforu said:
seujair31 said:

This all happens because you do not demand extra materials and does not know the story, you simply formulates its fractions through their own theories, and not the facts

Really a lot of people too lazy to do a search, it is much easier to create theories and arguments of your own taste, than just research and take a look at the extra content, to learn more about the history


I don't think it's anyone's duty to research anything. Aldnoah Zero is a TV show, and most people that watch this show aren't going to buy the blu-ray. It doesn't have a light novel and it didn't have a manga. It is an anime original, so there was/is no extra information. I don't know why you would leave out this information in your main story, other than to create an extra incentive for people to buy the blue-rays. But even then, really? Who is going to want to buy the blu-ray because of backstories to characters. Isn't that essential to what makes a character? Why was none of this information in the show? That's like...important information that they left out.


Because the show has only 24 episode, and it would be impossible to show all your content in just 24 episodes.
Essential data, explincando the aldnoah power, and technical data on the Martian technology, and also information about the mecha.s. were left out of the anime, for lack of time. It was never explained if the locks were found, or were contruidos.
Are only 24 episodes and not 50 as Code Geass.
In addition to encouraging the sale of blu-ray. was found also a way to cover the lack of time found in the anime.
And also serves to disprove those who insisted that Slaine, had a terrible past and full of abuses, when in verda its history is totally different. Also belies one enomer amount of comments made by their fans.
Many people may have seen this extrar contents, but most hide the facts contained in them, ashamed, or do not want other users to discover the facts, not to be denied their arguments.
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Pretty good battle. Nice strategies
Feb 18, 2015 8:14 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
deadoptimist said:


Thanks!
So, I guess, the ship belonging to the young king was false. But where have I heard it then?..



Why? Dou you hate Slaine's relatives too, even though they had no part in the story and almost no influence on his development?
It would be good, to promote drama and because it would be better to finally remember about dr. Troyard's story.


No because I would love for his father's work to be used against Slaine. He's a karmic punching bag of a character


Isn't there anything you can say besides bash a specific character every post you make? Enjoy the show, there's no use on hating on a fictional character to that degree cause it will merely leave distaste on your mouth, for the whole show.
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OfficialMikoSM said:
Darklight0303 said:


No because I would love for his father's work to be used against Slaine. He's a karmic punching bag of a character


Isn't there anything you can say besides bash a specific character every post you make? Enjoy the show, there's no use on hating on a fictional character to that degree cause it will merely leave distaste on your mouth, for the whole show.


That's rich coming from the likes of you. I was more docile than you've ever been towards Inaho. I just pointed out I would love the delicious irony of Slaine being attacked by his father's work.
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OfficialMikoSM said:
Darklight0303 said:


No because I would love for his father's work to be used against Slaine. He's a karmic punching bag of a character


Isn't there anything you can say besides bash a specific character every post you make? Enjoy the show, there's no use on hating on a fictional character to that degree cause it will merely leave distaste on your mouth, for the whole show.



will watch the extra blu-ray.
There you find a cute story, shoujo manga and typical fairy tale.
The story tells of a boy traveling with his father in the world, and one day he goes to Mars, arriving there his dad, is obsessed in studying the aldnoah power, his little boy meets a princess, and befriends her, both of play house, this boy goes to live in the castle with his sweet princess. the two plays pike seek, house, doll and other children's games, which helped this boy to get great revolutionary ideals, and have a great training policy, and disinvolver their great revolution plan. A past full of joys, taken from a fairy tale, a boy who had VIP treatment on Mars

Thanks to the extra blu-ray, most of his comments, and his arguments were completely destroyed and denials.

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Savethebestforu said:
seujair31 said:

This all happens because you do not demand extra materials and does not know the story, you simply formulates its fractions through their own theories, and not the facts

Really a lot of people too lazy to do a search, it is much easier to create theories and arguments of your own taste, than just research and take a look at the extra content, to learn more about the history


I don't think it's anyone's duty to research anything. Aldnoah Zero is a TV show, and most people that watch this show aren't going to buy the blu-ray. It doesn't have a light novel and it didn't have a manga. It is an anime original, so there was/is no extra information. I don't know why you would leave out this information in your main story, other than to create an extra incentive for people to buy the blue-rays. But even then, really? Who is going to want to buy the blu-ray because of backstories to characters. Isn't that essential to what makes a character? Why was none of this information in the show? That's like...important information that they left out.

time/episode limitations means that most of the back stories, flashbacks, side information will have to be presented in another fashion other than the show. Be it booklets in the blurays, extra scenes, or information on the official website. It's not necessarily the shows fault it's more the fault of the companies that run the medium, which insist on a 24 episode maximum for the series. I think Greyzone has mentioned this multiple times already.
I'm sure all of it would be included if this show was given 48 episodes or 36 even, i'm also sure that a lot of the complaints about the show wouldn't exist..... wait scratch that people would still bitch either way.
Still the information is there for those who want to view it, i'm sure people will upload them eventually.
they are not the only show who does this. Gundam does it all the time iirc.
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Inb4 she doesn't remember anything.


My thoughts exactly.
Insert philosophical quote or exceptional picture here.
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Oh baby are they fighting lighting-kun?



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Funny no one has yet mentioned, the repetition of the events in the first season.
Lemrina almost kills Asseylum, luckily she gives up, and guess that it is the fault of Slaine that again, ignored the threats Lemrina, and again took no action.
In the first season he was lucky the princess does not die, and in the second season he was lucky that Lemrina gave up kill the princess. as writers are kind of saving Asseylum, who is always at risk attitudes of Slaine.
Funny thing is Slaine can not Proter one person in the case Asseylum, and he thinks of founding a empire is the joke of the year


It was also confirmed in episode 18, we had a repeat of the first season facts.
let the facts.
First Season - Saazbaum clearly warns that has hatred against the royal family and Asseylum, saying it would kill Asseylum, Slaine ignores the facts, not doses measures, the result Asseylum almost dies shot, and is in a coma.
Second-Season - Lemrina clearly warns that has hatred against the royal family and Asseylum, saying it would take all of Asseylum, Again Slaine ignores the facts, not doses measures, and during the episode 18, Lemrina tries to kill Asseylum, more by luck , Lemrina give up.
This shows how far the character development Slaine, he keeps making the same mistakes of the first season, and continues to ignore the facts, and again thanks to incopetencia of Slaine, his beloved Asseylum almost dies again. This proves that Slaine, aperar of upgrades given by writers, still the same stupid character, who make the same mistakes.
And again luckily survives Asseylum.
The most amazing is that dizesm that Slaine will be a great governate a governate has thousands of life in your hand.
Slaine And do not even get Proter Asseylum, which is a single person.
And again Asseylum almost dies, the revolutionary super overlooking the facts, and can not account for Proter a single person.

Amazing the same mistake of the first season.
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KamiAlice said:
Savethebestforu said:


I don't think it's anyone's duty to research anything. Aldnoah Zero is a TV show, and most people that watch this show aren't going to buy the blu-ray. It doesn't have a light novel and it didn't have a manga. It is an anime original, so there was/is no extra information. I don't know why you would leave out this information in your main story, other than to create an extra incentive for people to buy the blue-rays. But even then, really? Who is going to want to buy the blu-ray because of backstories to characters. Isn't that essential to what makes a character? Why was none of this information in the show? That's like...important information that they left out.

time/episode limitations means that most of the back stories, flashbacks, side information will have to be presented in another fashion other than the show. Be it booklets in the blurays, extra scenes, or information on the official website. It's not necessarily the shows fault it's more the fault of the companies that run the medium, which insist on a 24 episode maximum for the series. I think Greyzone has mentioned this multiple times already.
I'm sure all of it would be included if this show was given 48 episodes or 36 even, i'm also sure that a lot of the complaints about the show wouldn't exist..... wait scratch that people would still bitch either way.
Still the information is there for those who want to view it, i'm sure people will upload them eventually.
they are not the only show who does this. Gundam does it all the time iirc.


...but you've got to admit that this is an excuse. A good screenwriter would find a way to include important pieces of information to help us understand the characters' motives instead of leaving us to infer as much as we have been. You're absolutely right that if this series was given 48 episode or 100 episodes instead of 24 it would give us more details, but the fact of the matter is they weren't given 48, they were given 24. And as such, good writing would pace itself in a way to include these important details. the very fact we're losing quality because of a smaller episode count, is evidence of poorer writing and foresight. they pretty much don't want us to look too closely at things (don't analzye and think about things too much just accept it!); we're suppose to consume this media like drones. unfortunately for them much of us are not aged 16 (arbitrary number i know) and below.

Of course this would all matter more if Slaine's past actually was filled with sad things that would let us understand his motives, but according to seujair, these extras reveal that his life was pretty much scott free. which to me sounds rather stupid actually, they missed such a good opportunity to make him a deep character! if he's still among martians and we know they are super racist why didn't he face more hardship (obviously out of the eyes of his father and the princess). this just doesn't make sense. I havent seen these extras so i can't make a fairer judgment on them, but i dunno they still don't explain anything about his mother or go into great detail concerning his relationship with his father right? maybe we are still missing something. maybe...

although even if he didn't have a sad childhood, perhaps he witnessed the class problems occurring in Vers and that's good enough reason for him to be involved in this revolution?
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Inugirlz said:
KamiAlice said:

time/episode limitations means that most of the back stories, flashbacks, side information will have to be presented in another fashion other than the show. Be it booklets in the blurays, extra scenes, or information on the official website. It's not necessarily the shows fault it's more the fault of the companies that run the medium, which insist on a 24 episode maximum for the series. I think Greyzone has mentioned this multiple times already.
I'm sure all of it would be included if this show was given 48 episodes or 36 even, i'm also sure that a lot of the complaints about the show wouldn't exist..... wait scratch that people would still bitch either way.
Still the information is there for those who want to view it, i'm sure people will upload them eventually.
they are not the only show who does this. Gundam does it all the time iirc.


...but you've got to admit that this is an excuse. A good screenwriter would find a way to include important pieces of information to help us understand the characters' motives instead of leaving us to infer as much as we have been. You're absolutely right that if this series was given 48 episode or 100 episodes instead of 24 it would give us more details, but the fact of the matter is they weren't given 48, they were given 24. And as such, good writing would pace itself in a way to include these important details. the very fact we're losing quality because of a smaller episode count, is evidence of poorer writing and foresight. they pretty much don't want us to look too closely at things (don't analzye and think about things too much just accept it!); we're suppose to consume this media like drones. unfortunately for them much of us are not aged 16 (arbitrary number i know) and below.

Of course this would all matter more if Slaine's past actually was filled with sad things that would let us understand his motives, but according to seujair, these extras reveal that his life was pretty much scott free. which to me sounds rather stupid actually, they missed such a good opportunity to make him a deep character! if he's still among martians and we know they are super racist why didn't he face more hardship (obviously out of the eyes of his father and the princess). this just doesn't make sense. I havent seen these extras so i can't make a fairer judgment on them, but i dunno they still don't explain anything about his mother or go into great detail concerning his relationship with his father right? maybe we are still missing something. maybe...

although even if he didn't have a sad childhood, perhaps he witnessed the class problems occurring in Vers and that's good enough reason for him to be involved in this revolution?


I thought it was a given that Slaine saw his situation as a "slave" the same the class problems occurring in vers, and thats why he sympathizes with them. That's the reason he decided to side with sausbamm in the first place. Wait so the torture scene wasn't enough to show you his treatment? I'm sorry but what you are asking for was already given and the rest doesn't make sense.
Why would his mother need to be shown or explained? It isn't anything relevant to the story. Those aren't important details, neither is his relationship with his father.
The only thing about his father I want to know is his research with aldnoah, that's the only relevant part to the plot that his father plays.
How would "sad" things better help you understand his motives, he doesn't need a sad background to sympathize with those who are oppressed. Even then, the entire first cour showed the attitude and oppression towards him, which is more than enough motive for him to side with those in a same situation as him.

You are doing exactly that, not analyzing and not thinking about things, any little bit of analysis shows Slaines reasoning and motives. They're pretty damn clear.

I'm sorry but what you are asking for are unimportant details that you want just to satisfy your needs, even then if they are not presented in the way you want them to you disregard them and say it's bad writing.
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Inugirlz said:
KamiAlice said:

time/episode limitations means that most of the back stories, flashbacks, side information will have to be presented in another fashion other than the show. Be it booklets in the blurays, extra scenes, or information on the official website. It's not necessarily the shows fault it's more the fault of the companies that run the medium, which insist on a 24 episode maximum for the series. I think Greyzone has mentioned this multiple times already.
I'm sure all of it would be included if this show was given 48 episodes or 36 even, i'm also sure that a lot of the complaints about the show wouldn't exist..... wait scratch that people would still bitch either way.
Still the information is there for those who want to view it, i'm sure people will upload them eventually.
they are not the only show who does this. Gundam does it all the time iirc.


...but you've got to admit that this is an excuse. A good screenwriter would find a way to include important pieces of information to help us understand the characters' motives instead of leaving us to infer as much as we have been. You're absolutely right that if this series was given 48 episode or 100 episodes instead of 24 it would give us more details, but the fact of the matter is they weren't given 48, they were given 24. And as such, good writing would pace itself in a way to include these important details. the very fact we're losing quality because of a smaller episode count, is evidence of poorer writing and foresight. they pretty much don't want us to look too closely at things (don't analzye and think about things too much just accept it!); we're suppose to consume this media like drones. unfortunately for them much of us are not aged 16 (arbitrary number i know) and below.

Of course this would all matter more if Slaine's past actually was filled with sad things that would let us understand his motives, but according to seujair, these extras reveal that his life was pretty much scott free. which to me sounds rather stupid actually, they missed such a good opportunity to make him a deep character! if he's still among martians and we know they are super racist why didn't he face more hardship (obviously out of the eyes of his father and the princess). this just doesn't make sense. I havent seen these extras so i can't make a fairer judgment on them, but i dunno they still don't explain anything about his mother or go into great detail concerning his relationship with his father right? maybe we are still missing something. maybe...

although even if he didn't have a sad childhood, perhaps he witnessed the class problems occurring in Vers and that's good enough reason for him to be involved in this revolution?


His mother never appears, and was not even mentioned.
Also lack technical data that are found in various mecha anime.
We do not have many technical information. About aldnoah power, explanations of the technologies used on the functioning of m.echa. And no information if the wick were found or constructed.


Many people may come to the conclusion,
The racism suffered by Slaine, when he lived in the castle with Cruhteo, may be due to jealousy, the other soldiers because Slaine had special treatment, and had the attention of the princess, while the other soldiers did not receive these treatment, let alone less had the attention of the princess.
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KamiAlice said:
Inugirlz said:


...but you've got to admit that this is an excuse. A good screenwriter would find a way to include important pieces of information to help us understand the characters' motives instead of leaving us to infer as much as we have been. You're absolutely right that if this series was given 48 episode or 100 episodes instead of 24 it would give us more details, but the fact of the matter is they weren't given 48, they were given 24. And as such, good writing would pace itself in a way to include these important details. the very fact we're losing quality because of a smaller episode count, is evidence of poorer writing and foresight. they pretty much don't want us to look too closely at things (don't analzye and think about things too much just accept it!); we're suppose to consume this media like drones. unfortunately for them much of us are not aged 16 (arbitrary number i know) and below.

Of course this would all matter more if Slaine's past actually was filled with sad things that would let us understand his motives, but according to seujair, these extras reveal that his life was pretty much scott free. which to me sounds rather stupid actually, they missed such a good opportunity to make him a deep character! if he's still among martians and we know they are super racist why didn't he face more hardship (obviously out of the eyes of his father and the princess). this just doesn't make sense. I havent seen these extras so i can't make a fairer judgment on them, but i dunno they still don't explain anything about his mother or go into great detail concerning his relationship with his father right? maybe we are still missing something. maybe...

although even if he didn't have a sad childhood, perhaps he witnessed the class problems occurring in Vers and that's good enough reason for him to be involved in this revolution?


I thought it was a given that Slaine saw his situation as a "slave" the same the class problems occurring in vers, and thats why he sympathizes with them. That's the reason he decided to side with sausbamm in the first place. Wait so the torture scene wasn't enough to show you his treatment? I'm sorry but what you are asking for was already given and the rest doesn't make sense.
Why would his mother need to be shown or explained? It isn't anything relevant to the story. Those aren't important details, neither is his relationship with his father.
The only thing about his father I want to know is his research with aldnoah, that's the only relevant part to the plot that his father plays.
How would "sad" things better help you understand his motives, he doesn't need a sad background to sympathize with those who are oppressed. Even then, the entire first cour showed the attitude and oppression towards him, which is more than enough motive for him to side with those in a same situation as him.

You are doing exactly that, not analyzing and not thinking about things, any little bit of analysis shows Slaines reasoning and motives. They're pretty damn clear.

I'm sorry but what you are asking for are unimportant details that you want just to satisfy your needs, even then if they are not presented in the way you want them to you disregard them and say it's bad writing.



You can claim the Method used torture, more punishment for their actions is just, in any army in the world he would be punished for what he did in episode 7, you can discuss the method used in the case of torture, no more punishment . The punishment was fair, and is applied in all armies, the soldiers who commit acts such as those committed Slaine in episode 7.
Do not forget that Slaine even being a slave as you speak, has special treatment and attention from his girlfriend of Asseylum.
The other soldiers have not. do you think the other soldiers seeing such perks, would be happy.

Ready you lost focus of the anime.
In no time the anime, it was shown any soldier of Vers, suffering abuse or attacks by the Counts. Slaine was the one who was treated this way.
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KamiAlice said:
Inugirlz said:


...but you've got to admit that this is an excuse. A good screenwriter would find a way to include important pieces of information to help us understand the characters' motives instead of leaving us to infer as much as we have been. You're absolutely right that if this series was given 48 episode or 100 episodes instead of 24 it would give us more details, but the fact of the matter is they weren't given 48, they were given 24. And as such, good writing would pace itself in a way to include these important details. the very fact we're losing quality because of a smaller episode count, is evidence of poorer writing and foresight. they pretty much don't want us to look too closely at things (don't analzye and think about things too much just accept it!); we're suppose to consume this media like drones. unfortunately for them much of us are not aged 16 (arbitrary number i know) and below.

Of course this would all matter more if Slaine's past actually was filled with sad things that would let us understand his motives, but according to seujair, these extras reveal that his life was pretty much scott free. which to me sounds rather stupid actually, they missed such a good opportunity to make him a deep character! if he's still among martians and we know they are super racist why didn't he face more hardship (obviously out of the eyes of his father and the princess). this just doesn't make sense. I havent seen these extras so i can't make a fairer judgment on them, but i dunno they still don't explain anything about his mother or go into great detail concerning his relationship with his father right? maybe we are still missing something. maybe...

although even if he didn't have a sad childhood, perhaps he witnessed the class problems occurring in Vers and that's good enough reason for him to be involved in this revolution?


I thought it was a given that Slaine saw his situation as a "slave" the same the class problems occurring in vers, and thats why he sympathizes with them. That's the reason he decided to side with sausbamm in the first place. Wait so the torture scene wasn't enough to show you his treatment? I'm sorry but what you are asking for was already given and the rest doesn't make sense.
Why would his mother need to be shown or explained? It isn't anything relevant to the story. Those aren't important details, neither is his relationship with his father.
The only thing about his father I want to know is his research with aldnoah, that's the only relevant part to the plot that his father plays.
How would "sad" things better help you understand his motives, he doesn't need a sad background to sympathize with those who are oppressed. Even then, the entire first cour showed the attitude and oppression towards him, which is more than enough motive for him to side with those in a same situation as him.

You are doing exactly that, not analyzing and not thinking about things, any little bit of analysis shows Slaines reasoning and motives. They're pretty damn clear.

I'm sorry but what you are asking for are unimportant details that you want just to satisfy your needs, even then if they are not presented in the way you want them to you disregard them and say it's bad writing.


I sorta initially agreed with this too. I don't think he really needs a really sad backstory to see the need to change things. I mean if you see injustice and you're not a selfish asshole obviously you'd fight for change. But seujair did raise a good point that we never see a sufficient background for him that would show why he's so deeply committed to this revolution. Basically, its the idea that others have better reasons to be the driving force behind this and his reasons are underdeveloped (he's only the one doing it because hes the 2nd main character and well PLOT). We know he's pro-princess and that's it (but even his actions aren't really pro-princess lol). Like Lemrina and Harklight have clear good reasons for it, but Slaine not so much. Although again, i don't think that's entirely necessary. Since series like to introduce characters to add tension, why don't they introduce some character who also wants to fight for change? Expecting Slaine alone to do it is lazy and convenient (oh that word u hate) for the plot

We don't need to know about his mother, that was just an example of a sort of thing that could have happened in his past that would make him passionate about the cause. Or to show he has a sad past. These so called blue-ray extras pretty much paint the picture that he had a happy-go-lucky life before the series, which is a pretty lame turn of events really.

As for the torture scene, he was tortured by Cruhteo not because he was a terran/lower class but because Cruhteo thought he was a traitor, so no i don't think that scene particularly fuelled his drive for change.

And i'm gonna have to strongly disagree with you saying his relationship with his father isn't relevant to the story. Explained right it could be ENTIRELY relevant. I'm sure we'll eventually learn something about it. Otherwise really, what was the point of making Dr. Troyard be his father? If it was just to give him a connection to the princess his father could of been some other dude of influence not specifically linked to the aldnoah drives.

You seem to really like to defend the show and fail to see ways for it to improve. Not including these details doesn't render the show stupid and unworthy but rather by seeing ways for the show to improve BY including these things raises its level. No need to be so defensive. We fully are analyzing it, and we're failing to see details we deem critical to a detailed story. I could simply be happy with the idea that he sympathizes with those who are oppressed and call it a day-- but i would FEEL and BELIEVE it more if i saw flashbacks with him actually SEEING these oppressive acts or something of the like, hearing that his life was easy before his father went missing doesn't exactly help support his motives or allow viewers to really feel his genuine devotion to the cause.
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in recent years, is two battles were the most will impress me.
And had no battle in aldnoah.zero this level









Some questions.

1- Lemrina told Slaine, about his intentions regarding Asseylum?
this fact, do not you, the facts occurred during the episode 8 (First season), where Saazbaun, over dinner, recounts his intentions towards Asseylum?
2- The final scenes of the episode 6 (second season), do not remember, the final scenes of Episode 12 (first season)?
3-Who is to blame? by Asseylum almost die again?
4-What difference, the committed by Slaine first season in error, and error in his second season?
5-What do you call people who persist in the same mistakes, and never learn from them?
6-As someone who could not even protect a single person, if Asseylum can think of being emperor?
7-How many times? Someone will tell Slaine Slaine tells about his evil intentions against Asseylum, and it will do nothing about the case?
8-Complete the sentence. To err is human, to persist in error is............................
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seujair31 said:
1- Lemrina told Slaine, about his intentions regarding Asseylum?
this fact, do not you, the facts occurred during the episode 8 (First season), where Saazbaun, over dinner, recounts his intentions towards Asseylum?
2- The final scenes of the episode 6 (second season), do not remember, the final scenes of Episode 12 (first season)?
3-Who is to blame? by Asseylum almost die again?
4-What difference, the committed by Slaine first season in error, and error in his second season?
The 5-What do you call people who persist in the same mistakes, and never learn from them?
6-As someone who could not even protect a single person, if Asseylum can think of being emperor?
7-How many times? Someone will tell Slaine Slaine tells about his evil intentions against Asseylum, and it will do nothing about the case?
8-Complete the sentence. To err is human, to persist in error is............................


I don't know if I ENTIRELY understand your questions, but I can give it a shot.

1 - Lemrina has said she will not give up her grudge against the royal family, but has yet to tell Slaine she would kill her, and seems very "gracious" for the lack of a better word, when it comes to how Slaine feels about her, never indicating openly her plan to replace her, allowing Slaine's love of her, not speaking of killing her, etc. So, it doesn't quite recall Saaz's direct statement of intent to kill. It is more hidden, on purpose of course.
2 - Not really. Almost shutting down the machine and thinking better of it versus shooting her.
3 - Well... in the first season it was Saaz, and now its Lemrina.
4 - I... think you're asking what errors Slaine is making? Depends on his intent. In the first season it was (most likely) he thought he could somehow reconcile Saaz and the princess in order to both reform Vers and keep the princess safe. In the second, I won't comment until we get confirmation of exactly what the hell he is planning.
5 - Fools. Idiots.
6 - You say this a lot, but the fact of the matter is protecting a single person from physical harm is hardly the measure that heads of state are judged by. Note that I didn't say Slaine would be a good emperor or anything, but your reasoning isn't persuasive.
7 - Well, thus so far, once?
8 - To err is human, to persist in error is SEUJAIR.

Ha ha ha, ahhhhhh, I kid seujair, I kid.
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ANGRY2011 said:
seujair31 said:
1- Lemrina told Slaine, about his intentions regarding Asseylum?
this fact, do not you, the facts occurred during the episode 8 (First season), where Saazbaun, over dinner, recounts his intentions towards Asseylum?
2- The final scenes of the episode 6 (second season), do not remember, the final scenes of Episode 12 (first season)?
3-Who is to blame? by Asseylum almost die again?
4-What difference, the committed by Slaine first season in error, and error in his second season?
The 5-What do you call people who persist in the same mistakes, and never learn from them?
6-As someone who could not even protect a single person, if Asseylum can think of being emperor?
7-How many times? Someone will tell Slaine Slaine tells about his evil intentions against Asseylum, and it will do nothing about the case?
8-Complete the sentence. To err is human, to persist in error is............................


I don't know if I ENTIRELY understand your questions, but I can give it a shot.

1 - Lemrina has said she will not give up her grudge against the royal family, but has yet to tell Slaine she would kill her, and seems very "gracious" for the lack of a better word, when it comes to how Slaine feels about her, never indicating openly her plan to replace her, allowing Slaine's love of her, not speaking of killing her, etc. So, it doesn't quite recall Saaz's direct statement of intent to kill. It is more hidden, on purpose of course.
2 - Not really. Almost shutting down the machine and thinking better of it versus shooting her.
3 - Well... in the first season it was Saaz, and now its Lemrina.
4 - I... think you're asking what errors Slaine is making? Depends on his intent. In the first season it was (most likely) he thought he could somehow reconcile Saaz and the princess in order to both reform Vers and keep the princess safe. In the second, I won't comment until we get confirmation of exactly what the hell he is planning.
5 - Fools. Idiots.
6 - You say this a lot, but the fact of the matter is protecting a single person from physical harm is hardly the measure that heads of state are judged by. Note that I didn't say Slaine would be a good emperor or anything, but your reasoning isn't persuasive.
7 - Well, thus so far, once?
8 - To err is human, to persist in error is SEUJAIR.

Ha ha ha, ahhhhhh, I kid seujair, I kid.



pull the plug, a person in a coma is the same, is the same as throwing a person. both are attempts to murder, by different methods.
the three you missed, because if Slaine cortase it in the bud, none of these attempts occur.
About 6, think of a empire formed of a single subject, if a king can not protect a kingdom, with a single subject, which will tell of various subjects.
You have already taken a look at the extras blu-ray, has a beautiful fairy tale that tells the story of a boy traveling with his father in the world, to get to Mars where I met a princess, and become friend.
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Erm, I dunno about the additional materials, but Slaine crash lands in the castle in a rocket with his lungs full of breathing liquid - I'd say that is a good sign of some problems. Also before he was tortured he was casually abused and discriminated against. I'd say that it's not terribly ok, especially considering that he had no hope to escape the perspective of being beaten like a dog for all foreseeable future. As you remember, even the presence of the princess didn't save him from bruises.
Now, I don't imply that he has to get a sob story to want to change something, but he has a tragic backstory - at least it is clear that he always was an outsider to the places he lived in.

Darklight0303 said:
That's rich coming from the likes of you. I was more docile than you've ever been towards Inaho. I just pointed out I would love the delicious irony of Slaine being attacked by his father's work.

Nope, man, I don't see anyone writing that Inaho is antichrist and has to die together with anyone who has ever liked him as a character, as people regularly do about Slaine.

Savethebestforu said:
I would murder someone for a backstory on Slaine's dad. Having him mentioned as a scientist that worked with the Aldnoah drives so many times is just begging for flashback scenes, or at least some revelation to Slaine about the secrets of Aldnoah. Something...

I used to look forward to it, but with zero buld up and zero attention to the aldnoah tecnhical qualities it won't work anyway.
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seujair31 said:
ANGRY2011 said:


I don't know if I ENTIRELY understand your questions, but I can give it a shot.

1 - Lemrina has said she will not give up her grudge against the royal family, but has yet to tell Slaine she would kill her, and seems very "gracious" for the lack of a better word, when it comes to how Slaine feels about her, never indicating openly her plan to replace her, allowing Slaine's love of her, not speaking of killing her, etc. So, it doesn't quite recall Saaz's direct statement of intent to kill. It is more hidden, on purpose of course.
2 - Not really. Almost shutting down the machine and thinking better of it versus shooting her.
3 - Well... in the first season it was Saaz, and now its Lemrina.
4 - I... think you're asking what errors Slaine is making? Depends on his intent. In the first season it was (most likely) he thought he could somehow reconcile Saaz and the princess in order to both reform Vers and keep the princess safe. In the second, I won't comment until we get confirmation of exactly what the hell he is planning.
5 - Fools. Idiots.
6 - You say this a lot, but the fact of the matter is protecting a single person from physical harm is hardly the measure that heads of state are judged by. Note that I didn't say Slaine would be a good emperor or anything, but your reasoning isn't persuasive.
7 - Well, thus so far, once?
8 - To err is human, to persist in error is SEUJAIR.

Ha ha ha, ahhhhhh, I kid seujair, I kid.



pull the plug, a person in a coma is the same, is the same as throwing a person. both are attempts to murder, by different methods.
the three you missed, because if Slaine cortase it in the bud, none of these attempts occur.
About 6, think of a empire formed of a single subject, if a king can not protect a kingdom, with a single subject, which will tell of various subjects.
You have already taken a look at the extras blu-ray, has a beautiful fairy tale that tells the story of a boy traveling with his father in the world, to get to Mars where I met a princess, and become friend.


Lemrina didn't inform Slaine she intended to pull the plug. Still different.

On point three, I'm not incorrect. Slaine did not intentionally further any murder attempts. The murder attempts are solely on the perpetrators. Unintentionally creating a situation for a murderer isn't a crime, but rather an unfortunate happenstance.

Your logic isn't persuasive. Protecting a single person from physical harm is much different than running a nation.

I haven't looked at the extras. I don't feel compelled to. If what you say is accurate, I think it is lame, but I still don't really care. If what you say is biased, then I don't know what to say because I'd need to see the materials myself.
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Erm, I dunno about the additional materials, but Slaine crash lands in the castle in a rocket with his lungs full of breathing liquid - I'd say that is a good sign of some problems. Also before he was tortured he was casually abused and discriminated against. I'd say that it's not terribly ok, especially considering that he had no hope to escape the perspective of being beaten like a dog for all foreseeable future. As you remember, even the presence of the princess didn't save him from bruises.
Now, I don't imply that he has to get a sob story to want to change something, but he has a tragic backstory - at least it is clear that he always was an outsider to the places he lived in.

Darklight0303 said:
That's rich coming from the likes of you. I was more docile than you've ever been towards Inaho. I just pointed out I would love the delicious irony of Slaine being attacked by his father's work.

Nope, man, I don't see anyone writing that Inaho is antichrist and has to die together with anyone who has ever liked him as a character, as people regularly do about Slaine.

Savethebestforu said:
I would murder someone for a backstory on Slaine's dad. Having him mentioned as a scientist that worked with the Aldnoah drives so many times is just begging for flashback scenes, or at least some revelation to Slaine about the secrets of Aldnoah. Something...

I used to look forward to it, but with zero buld up and zero attention to the aldnoah tecnhical qualities it won't work anyway.



with all due respect, your comments are pitiful.
First any soldier would receive punishment for acts committed Slaine in episode 7, he was accused of treason. Wake up here you can only discuss the meto used, torture is wrong, the punishment would be given to any soldier.
Slaine never suffered any abuse, in front of Asseylum.
Qualque soldier who receives stewardship, care and preferably a head of state, in the case Asseylum, and to aggravate a foreigner. generates anger and jealousy by the other soldiers.
So all those who suffer bully at school will rebel, and create a new empire.
Their excuses are incosistente, you just expressed your personal taste.
Yes its background story is extremely childish, as well as the attitudes of your character. Typical shounjo sleeves, fairytale.
because you did not follow the good example of Inugirlz User, even though fan of Slaine, it also raises questions about his character.
More in your case you do not see any defect in your character, you think it's perfect, and everything he does, or what happens to it perfect.



[quote=ANGRY2011][quote=seujair31][quote=ANGRY2011][quote=seujair31]1- Lemrina told

Lemrina didn't inform Slaine she intended to pull the plug. Still different.

On point three, I'm not incorrect. Slaine did not intentionally further any murder attempts. The murder attempts are solely on the perpetrators. Unintentionally creating a situation for a murderer isn't a crime, but rather an unfortunate happenstance.

Your logic isn't persuasive. Protecting a single person from physical harm is much different than running a nation.


So if you go to a party with his friend, he drinks and gets drunk, on the drive home, you allow it drives, and this friend of yours cause an accident. Part of the fault is not yours for not preventing him from driving.
If you have prevented the accident would never have occurred.
In both cases Slaine, did not take seriously the threats, and to take steps, both are cases occur due to Slaine stupidity.
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with all due respect, your comments are pitiful. ...
Yes its background story is extremely childish, as well as the attitudes of your character. Typical shounjo sleeves, fairytale.


I'd rather you stop with making this discussion personal. And, please, don't post comments about A.Z in my profile.
Please, heed my advice - you would look marginally more intelligent this way.

seujair31 said:
Slaine never suffered any abuse, in front of Asseylum.

He did. He was beaten by Cruteo multiple times, even while the princess was at the castle.

seujair31 said:
Qualque soldier who receives stewardship, care and preferably a head of state, in the case Asseylum, and to aggravate a foreigner. generates anger and jealousy by the other soldiers.

Their society is a class society, so there're tons of other candidates. His position is not much different from a personal aide, pet or a page - fed, but not free and not respected.
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seujair31 said:
So if you go to a party with his friend, he drinks and gets drunk, on the drive home, you allow it drives, and this friend of yours cause an accident. Part of the fault is not yours for not preventing him from driving.
If you have prevented the accident would never have occurred.
In both cases Slaine, did not take seriously the threats, and to take steps, both are cases occur due to Slaine stupidity.


If you are not the guardian of your friend, and you are not a commercial establishment giving him alcohol, and you do not incite him to drive drunk, then yes, it is not your fault.

Your friend should own up for being an idiot that drove drunk and killed someone. You can feel guilty about it, like you should have done better, but you are not at fault. You are under no obligation to keep him from driving, even if that's a shitty thing to do.

Slaine may or may not have treated the threat to the princess seriously. I doubt he knew that he was going to be crashing everybody into the room she was in. We'll never know what his plan was after saving Saaz.

As for Lemrina, yet again, Lemrina has not ever imparted to Slaine that she desires to kill the princess or serve as an authentic replacement.
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Darklight0303 said:
That's rich coming from the likes of you. I was more docile than you've ever been towards Inaho. I just pointed out I would love the delicious irony of Slaine being attacked by his father's work.

Nope, man, I don't see anyone writing that Inaho is antichrist and has to die together with anyone who has ever liked him as a character, as people regularly do about Slaine.



That is an absolutely shitty excuse and you know it seeing as INaho has not made any blunder the magnitude of which Slaine perpetrates every time he draws breath.
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Because apparently, Inaho never makes mistakes at all.
Are you, are you,
coming to the tree?
A necklace of rope,
side by side with me.
Strange things did happen
and no stranger would it be,
If we met at midnight,
in the hanging tree.
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Sykosis said:
Because apparently, Inaho never makes mistakes at all.


He's certainly not the one promoting a war with a comatose pacifist's face and voice nor is he the one getting married by proxy to a comatose person without her active consent.
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Darklight0303 said:
Sykosis said:
Because apparently, Inaho never makes mistakes at all.


He's certainly not the one promoting a war with a comatose pacifist's face and voice nor is he the one getting married by proxy to a comatose person without her active consent.




http://haruhichan.com/wpblog/39800/newtype-march-2015-anime-popularity-ranking/
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Thanks for writing a couple of small novels on my profile page, baby. I was getting worried because you were leaving everyone else gifts, but were leaving me out.
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Savethebestforu said:
seujair31 said:


Thanks for writing a couple of small novels on my profile page, baby. I was getting worried because you were leaving everyone else gifts, but were leaving me out.


Wooooooooooo welcome to the club. We're very exclusive here. Or we're all the same person. Whichever thing we're being accused of.
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deadoptimist said:



Nope, man, I don't see anyone writing that Inaho is antichrist and has to die together with anyone who has ever liked him as a character, as people regularly do about Slaine.



That is an absolutely shitty excuse and you know it seeing as INaho has not made any blunder the magnitude of which Slaine perpetrates every time he draws breath.


Actually i don't think this is a shitty excuse at all. You wanting to see Slaine get rekted by one of his father's creations because of things he's done is irrational and only the result of u disliking him as a character. He has not done anything cruel to anyone that would warrant such a downfall. But of course the more power u get the more likely he'll get corrupted and if he does continue to do stupid shit then maybe then it will be justified. Also Inaho's blunder could be seen as contributing to that poor conversation in season 1 episode 7 (ugh this scene again) which could have led to Slaine and Inaho being friends if not allies instead of enemies.

I'm only saying its a blunder on Inaho's part (as well as Slaine's don't forget that, that's what miscommunication is) because Inaho was the one with the power. He was the one who could've allowed Slaine to see the princess (which would have cleared up any lingering misunderstanding--i mean he could have let him on the ship under arrest first like they did with the count and looked into his motives) and he was the one with backup. You have to admit that Slaine would not have gotten aggressive if Inaho acted less like a military robot and more like an understanding human. But no, this isn't a blunder that would justify anyone saying gruesome things should happen to Inaho either. Such remarks should purely be reserved for characters that deserve it (like dem perverts in Rainbow)

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Inugirlz said:
Darklight0303 said:


That is an absolutely shitty excuse and you know it seeing as INaho has not made any blunder the magnitude of which Slaine perpetrates every time he draws breath.


Actually i don't think this is a shitty excuse at all. You wanting to see Slaine get rekted by one of his father's creations because of things he's done is irrational and only the result of u disliking him as a character. He has not done anything cruel to anyone that would warrant such a downfall. But of course the more power u get the more likely he'll get corrupted and if he does continue to do stupid shit then maybe then it will be justified. Also Inaho's blunder could be seen as a contributing to that poor conversation in season 1 episode 7 that could have led instead to Slaine and Inaho being friends if not allies.

I'm only saying its a blunder on Inaho's part (as well as Slaine's don't forget that, that's what miscommunication is) because Inaho was the one with the power. He was the one who could've allowed Slaine to see the princess and he was the one with backup. You have to admit that Slaine would not have gotten aggressive if Inaho acted less like a military robot and more like an understanding human.


No not really. If Slaine wasn't so blindly obssessed to get to the princess even though she was in a freakin space battleship powering it so safer than she'd ever been and had just answered the first question he could have met the princess. I will forever hold his puppy dog maniacal obsession with the princess against him.
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