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| garbage/5 I can't watch this anymore... play the game people. This story is just too good to experinece it in such a butchered way. I mean, where is the epic soundtrack? Where is the tension? Where is the epicness? There's none of it, unlike in the game. |
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| Anime version of Cornered is fucking hype, bros. |
| After all that he just gets saved by a spirit in the end. He was going to lose but no he gets saved by a girl channeling her dead sister to notice the receipt and to get the guy to confess to the murder. Bleh, I'm not a fan. |
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| Cheesy/10 And needed more "Yes, I do". |
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In the anime? Definitely! Phoenix was always grasping at straws and bluffing the hell outta these trials, but it's like they tried to make Maya more relevant than Phoenix. Okay, we get it, she's cute, don't take Phoenix's work away for him, okay? Altough Anime!Nick feels completely like a different character than Game!Nick. No sardonic comments, no smarty-pants inner monologue, no edge. He feels like a stample shounen MC with a good portion of bland added to the mix. When the most colourful (and I'm not talking about his design!) guy in the cast is Redd White - the antagonist you should be booing - you know something is off. xXKeikoChanXx said: Maya definitely has been moefied by the adaptation though. Yeah, that what irks me too. Maya in the game is this lovely package of charming, quirky and mature at the right moments. What we get in the anime? Sighs, shiptease, seiyuu that's more fitting for main romantic option in some romance anime. Maybe it's fine: Phoenix is a bland shounen MC, while she is taken outta harem. I seriously don't like the characterization in this adaptation (among other things: Ace Attorney's anime is mediocre at best), one Edgeworth is passable. And that's only because he doesn't get more to his persona outside "cold, awful prosecutor" before Samurai Turnabout. |
| Basically Supernatural power save the day. i like episode 1,2 and 3 but this one....well, i enjoyed it, but for some reason, i think it was very stupid. that supernatural power scene that really bothers me. i think that was really stupid, on top of that, they use it in a show where the people are talking to eachother logicaly. if you put supernatural aspect in logical show, it makes me think it's stupid. but either way i enjoyed it, 4/5 hope i won't see that supernatural thing again. it's ruin the show imo. |
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Ciara said: In the anime? Definitely! Phoenix was always grasping at straws and bluffing the hell outta these trials, but it's like they tried to make Maya more relevant than Phoenix. Okay, we get it, she's cute, don't take Phoenix's work away for him, okay? Altough Anime!Nick feels completely like a different character than Game!Nick. No sardonic comments, no smarty-pants inner monologue, no edge. He feels like a stample shounen MC with a good portion of bland added to the mix. When the most colourful (and I'm not talking about his design!) guy in the cast is Redd White - the antagonist you should be booing - you know something is off. how had I not noticed this ... oh my :0 As I see Phoenix/Naruhodou looks weak (anime, and Miles/Kenji too), but I could not understand exactly why, I thought it was because of the short cross-examination. Indeed, this is a serious lack in his personality. |
| Foking magic! I would be absolutely fine with it if not for that last list she threw on him, it would be a lot better if they didn't solve whole case with knowledge of dead woman. This was almost like cheating. Even that, I enjoyed this episode literally from beginning to the end, it's pacing was good and it was executed well. Wonder if Chihiro appears from time to time in upcoming episodes too. |
| Finally... Case closed, show dropped. This is just too stupid/annoying for me to watch. |
| I seriously don't get this show.... In which country is it better to confess that one has committed a murder over confessing to blackmailing politicians and movie stars? If the dude had just confessed to blackmail, it would have been a much lighter sentence anyway, no? It's not like those people that he blackmailed couldn't help get him out or anything, he STILL has the dirt on those people afterall... |
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| It's a shame they left out the "direction Mia ran" thing. As other people said, leaving it out makes White look less suspicious. It's only on this episode that I realized 24 minutes is not enough for a game like this. That said, I did really appreciate the part where Phoenix was desperately trying to cross-examine White and when he was clawing over evidence. Also, I didn't like how they cut the Pursuit theme short, and went to a much calmer march right afterwards. Could have kept the song going. : I'm loving Maya's voice more and more with each episode. Also, I noticed a weird effect. In some scenes, it's as if the whole video was darkened, before brightening up again in the next scene. It really threw me off. |
EpicCh33seApr 23, 2016 2:04 PM
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| It was okay. Since I don't know the games and I don't like the judicial system I'll drop this show here aftere episode 4. Once you get used to it the comedy is okay. Also the whole judicial system feels like comedy. But story/plot is not that interesting. I wanted to know about the big company guy which made me watch up until episode 4. But not that this is finished and some other boring cases might start I'll drop it. I'd prefer a more serious show where the prosecutor and judge try to get to the truth instead of just winning a case (prosecutor) or being utterly stupid (judge). Also the supernatural stuff (girl getting possesed by the death woman which then helps the main) is not something I like in this context. |
| ehhhh i'm not a big fan of the supernatural stuff. :/ oh well. |
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| I didn't think much of it when playing the game, but when watching Wright/Naruhodo get arrested, I realize just how messed up their justice system is; when all it takes is for someone to point their finger and say "it was him!!" to get the police to arrest and immediately indict someone for murder, with zero police testimony before the trial (when they normally do questioning on the POI first). As to why he confessed, I'm guessing he would have been in prison a lot longer for countless crimes that would add up and put him away until he dies of old age, than one count of murder which he still has a chance of getting out alive, especially if on good behavior--something I think is stupid in of itself . As for the supernatural element in this series, it may seem out of place, and yes, at the beginning, it's just a sentimental plot device for now. But it plays a heavy role throughout, later building up to the climactic end of a certain evil person....though I don't know if they'll animate it that far in this season. Get ready for the most obnoxious, annoying, cringe inducing woman in the entire series franchise next week. |
Estoy_GordoApr 23, 2016 2:35 PM
| It kinda ruined it for me when he still needed help from Chihiro when she is dead already... but I guess it will happen again due to Mayoi's channeling power. |
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Whoahoho said: That all for now, so what's net for the lawyer? And it looks like the lolicon relationship begins. Maya is 17 years old. |
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L-Ryoshi said: I seriously don't get this show.... In which country is it better to confess that one has committed a murder over confessing to blackmailing politicians and movie stars? If the dude had just confessed to blackmail, it would have been a much lighter sentence anyway, no? It's not like those people that he blackmailed couldn't help get him out or anything, he STILL has the dirt on those people afterall... He wasn't scared of the courts. Was probably scared of getting killed |
| In violation with: Knox 1st, 2nd, 6th, and 8th and Van Dines 1st, 5th, 8th, 10th, 15th, 17th, 19th, and 20th b) |
Repeat_it_in_redApr 23, 2016 5:42 PM
| It'd be nice if they made Phoenix slightly more competent. In the game, you're forced to rely on Mia for the last piece of evidence on the receipt. But really, Phoenix should've realised that the lamp was new since he works there. >.< |
| The closure was nicely done. The anime courtroom is a tightly run affair with delays, hidden evidence, and screaming in the middle of the courtroom by a lawyer. All is fair in the imagination and anime law proceedings. |
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| Exciting episode. Things seem to be getting better for the anime, which is good. That possession part was weird though. .. why did it change her physical appearance? lol. I also hated that purple hair guy. The way he acted was pretty ugly. |
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Repeat_it_in_red said: In violation with: Knox 1st, 2nd, 6th, and 8th and Van Dines 1st, 5th, 8th, 10th, 15th, 17th, 19th, and 20th b) For comparison, this case in the game breaks Knox 1st and Van Dine 17th and 19th too. Although this case was short, so Knox 1st doesn't feel like it should apply. Since at no point in the game guessing is a viable tactic, so the case in the game doesn't break Knox 8th or Van Dine 1st. It's hard for me to tell if this case in the game breaks Knox 6th or Van Dine 5th or 15th. As for Van Dine 20th, the case in the game definitely doesn't break it (and that's one of many reasons why this anime sucks) – Phoenix finds the list in Mia's files, not gets it written down by a spirit medium. As for supernatural stuff in general (Knox 2nd and Van Dine 8th), the first game uses it only to give hints to Phoenix, usually those hints would be obvious to someone smarter. I don't know if preventing Phoenix from being an idiot and not looking at the evidence is a violation, but that's all Mia's spirit does in the game. Nicromatic said: In the game, you're forced to rely on Mia for the last piece of evidence on the receipt. But really, Phoenix should've realised that the lamp was new since he works there. >.< You're making a really good point here, but on the other hand what would happen? "OBJECTION! That stand was bought merely few days ago!" "That's interesting. But since you're the defendant, I can't accept your words without external evidence. Do you have any?" "..." And back to not knowing about the receipt. Konoetan said: That possession part was weird though. .. why did it change her physical appearance? lol. I guess it's probably because the game did it: you can't change voice in an unvoiced game, and name change is not that noticeable, so they went full oppai, and the anime simply follows suit. --- Now, about the anime... I'll stick for one episode more. One last chance for the show to redeem itself. I liked the Turnabout Samurai case, and I guess it's a bit more "normal" than Turnabout Sisters, so maybe, just maybe, it won't suck that much. |
| Yet another miso ramen = burger. Turned out they're gonna adapt the Turnabout Samurai case (1-3). Oh crap that annoying old hag gonna get animated (ﾟ дﾟ lll) Konoetan said: It's just a depiction of the body possession, to ensure the viewer that possession was taking place. It's actually Maya/Mayoi's body with only Mia/Chihiro's voice, because only Wright/Naruhodou noticed. If it's the actual body growth, then the whole courtroom would be shocked.That possession part was weird though. .. why did it change her physical appearance? lol. |
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SHiNRei_YaGaMi said: Yet another miso ramen = burger. Turned out they're gonna adapt the Turnabout Samurai case (1-3). Oh crap that annoying old hag gonna get animated (ﾟ дﾟ lll) Konoetan said: It's just a depiction of the body possession, to ensure the viewer that possession was taking place. It's actually Maya/Mayoi's body with only Mia/Chihiro's voice, because only Wright/Naruhodou noticed. If it's the actual body growth, then the whole courtroom would be shocked.That possession part was weird though. .. why did it change her physical appearance? lol. hedla12 said: You just have to take note of this fact for now. It will become useful in the following episodes. Aaaah, I see now. Thanks guys. |
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| Oh, so the hamburger was miso ramen, and Maya calling Phoenix 'Nick' was Mayoi calling him 'Naruhodo-kun'. Never bothered to check what the original japanese was for the Ace Attorney games, so this anime is a good way for me to check the original sources, in a way. |
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| Still a bit surprised that people are dropping this anime due to reasons being "not serious enough", "an insult to the system" and "supernatural elements". These are all in the source material folks. The game was meant to be a parody, not to be taken too seriously. |
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| The episode was good. It was the best episode so far. Mia looked good in purple. I can't get over how Redd White sounds. The episode didn't seemed fast paced either. |
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| the subbers really need to not sub the japanese names for the english ones. Ugh. Most annoying thing to hear Mayoi but see Maya or hear Chihiro and see Mia. Stop. Ciara said: In the anime? Definitely! Phoenix was always grasping at straws and bluffing the hell outta these trials, but it's like they tried to make Maya more relevant than Phoenix. Okay, we get it, she's cute, don't take Phoenix's work away for him, okay? Although Anime!Nick feels completely like a different character than Game!Nick. No sardonic comments, no smarty-pants inner monologue, no edge. He feels like a stample shounen MC with a good portion of bland added to the mix. Definitely. I can't believe their taking away his sarcastic internal monolouge. That is literally what saves the game with all the stupidity of the characters. When they're being bizarre he takes note of their psycho-ness. |
InugirlzApr 23, 2016 9:37 PM
| Pretty good episode but it had some really shitty animation. |
| finally the cornered/pursuit theme so glad I waited until now to continue watching this again. next case turnabout samurai can't wait to see how it turns out and now I'm going to go back and play this game again. |
| Steel Samurai got me hyped. I can't wait to see best girl Wendy Oldbag. |
| Don't worry supernatural ability for case-solving ends here. Gotta be honest the animation was kinda bad this episode. Steel samurai though will be longer case than the previous ones and has more thought-provoking scenes. |
| Mayoi channeled Chihiro to save Phoenix YAY |
| WFT was up with that shounen scream WFT was up with that ugly CGI crowd WFT was up with Chihiro/Mayoi's face at the end HA HA HA |
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Inugirlz said: the subbers really need to not sub the japanese names for the english ones. Ugh. Most annoying thing to hear Mayoi but see Maya or hear Chihiro and see Mia. Stop. On Crunchy Roll you have the option to pick up either version: with original or localized names, whichever you fancy more. I'm partial to English names myself, I played all games with these, so it would be awkward a bit to switch to Naruhodo, Mayoi, etc. I'm aware that they say Japanese ones, but to be honest seeing English names on screen and having the original quirks from the Japanese version simultaneously is not uncomfortable to me at all. I'm glad there is a an option to pick up your prefered script version. |
xizor said: Ok I forgot because as far as I remember it's just a depiction since the games on NDS was voiceless, only "Objection!" and the likes of it were voiced. So to ensure players that it's Mia, they also changed the body of Maya. Well, feel free to correct me though since I haven't touched the game in years :DThat's not true, her physical appearance changes when she is channeling someone. For some reason people in the courtroom usually don't notice that. Btw on which case will Mia's appearance play important role..!!??? Don't forget to put a spoiler tag. |
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vytah said: Repeat_it_in_red said: In violation with: Knox 1st, 2nd, 6th, and 8th and Van Dines 1st, 5th, 8th, 10th, 15th, 17th, 19th, and 20th b) For comparison, this case in the game breaks Knox 1st and Van Dine 17th and 19th too. Although this case was short, so Knox 1st doesn't feel like it should apply. Since at no point in the game guessing is a viable tactic, so the case in the game doesn't break Knox 8th or Van Dine 1st. It's hard for me to tell if this case in the game breaks Knox 6th or Van Dine 5th or 15th. As for Van Dine 20th, the case in the game definitely doesn't break it (and that's one of many reasons why this anime sucks) – Phoenix finds the list in Mia's files, not gets it written down by a spirit medium. As for supernatural stuff in general (Knox 2nd and Van Dine 8th), the first game uses it only to give hints to Phoenix, usually those hints would be obvious to someone smarter. I don't know if preventing Phoenix from being an idiot and not looking at the evidence is a violation, but that's all Mia's spirit does in the game. I've never played the game myself, so thank you for the information. Every rule the game does not break while the anime does is sadly just a proof of the adaptation being poorly made. The reason why I think Knox 1st should apply here is, that as a lawyer Chihiro probably had dozens of people who had a grudge against her. I think "work-related grudge" is a way too widely used and unspecified motive to reason the culprit out yourself in a case with a dead lawyer, etc.. Moreover the culprit was introduced first in the middle of the arc and iirc never mentioned beforehand. I don't know if I got 20b) completely wrong, but wasn't it rather about the culprit being pressed into a situation where he confesses than about how a clue is presented? Obtaining the list through the spirit is more a violation of Van Dines 8th. And when Phoenix found the list in the office that means White never disposed of it, but wasn't that the reason why he committed the murder. So did the game completely change or leave out the whydunnit? As for the supernatural: The more the "spirit" does the more unreasonable the whole case gets and the more the rules are violated (Like you said, the medium writing down the list was a quite big violation and also completely caused by the adaptation). I also recall that Van Dines 9th stated something like "There must be but one detective, a Deus Ex Machina" and in this case not the detective, but the spirit medium would be the "Deus Ex Machina", wouldn't it? Even if the spirit was only there in the game to prevent Wright from being a dumbass (which he really is. The case was note that special at all, when the clues were presented) I think it is not a good idea. When the spirit does something only the spirit could do, it would be the worst mystery ever, but if the spirit only points things out, that could already be known, it just serves as nothing, but a big "f*** you" to the case being a mystery. I think a fourth-wall-breaking hint or sth. like that would work better than any supernatural stuff. |
Repeat_it_in_redJul 7, 2017 7:03 AM
Dark_Kain said: The fact that Maya body's change during spirit channeling is of capital importance at the end of case |
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Konte said: This episode felt a lot better...Naruhodo-kun saves the day!!! (Or his own ass again ) Better episode than the last. So Naruhodo saves his own ass with help from a spirit?? I thought this was gonna be a serious anime. Oh well looks like the spirits are here to say. |
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| So we finally hear the Pursuit Cornered track... but it seems to lack the effect it's supposed to have, possibly because it's so quiet. >.< hithummah said: Hm... on one hand, seeing Mia land the finishing blow on her own murderer is satisfying, in a certain way. On the other hand, it seems a bit contrived for Mia to interfere at the last second. The game may have done it a bit better by having Phoenix faint instead of shout, wake up in the lobby, and Mia tell him about the receipt there. Other cases also have other characters step in at the last second to bail Phoenix out of an impossible corner. It -can- be a good thing when done right.so the case was solve by a spirit (plot armor) instead of good writing, that's alone leaves a bad taste to my elitists ego. I don't mind the silliness presentation but this not what I expected from a investigation/mystery anime. -snip- If you want to see Phoenix land the final blow (but still require Mia to point out the receipt since no-one has noticed it) and not require the list of names, see the live-action film: https://youtu.be/aDKW88ALnOs?t=33m8s (Yes, that guy with the dark coat, long hair and dark glasses is this adaptation's version of Redd White...) Also, it looks kinda bad at the end when Maya just grabs Phoenix's hand instead of Phoenix taking Maya's hand voluntarily... Arikado- said: How did I not notice that too... o.oCiara said: In the anime? Definitely! Phoenix was always grasping at straws and bluffing the hell outta these trials, but it's like they tried to make Maya more relevant than Phoenix. Okay, we get it, she's cute, don't take Phoenix's work away for him, okay? Altough Anime!Nick feels completely like a different character than Game!Nick. No sardonic comments, no smarty-pants inner monologue, no edge. He feels like a stample shounen MC with a good portion of bland added to the mix. When the most colourful (and I'm not talking about his design!) guy in the cast is Redd White - the antagonist you should be booing - you know something is off. how had I not noticed this ... oh my :0 As I see Phoenix/Naruhodou looks weak (anime, and Miles/Kenji too), but I could not understand exactly why, I thought it was because of the short cross-examination. Indeed, this is a serious lack in his personality. |
TakataApr 24, 2016 5:46 AM
Repeat_it_in_red said: I don´t know if I got 20b) completely wrong, but wasn´t it rather about the culprit being pressed into a situation where he confesses than about how a clue is presented? Obtaining the list through the spirit is more a violation of Van Dines 8th. And when Phoenix found the list in the office that means White never disposed of it, but wasn´t that the reason why he committed the murder. So did the game completely change or leave out the whydunnit? In the game Mia has two files: one is a file on White, and that gets stolen by White in both anime and game. The second is a collection of newspaper clippings about unexplained suicides, with Mia's handwritten notes about her suspicions that White was behind them. White didn't find that second file, because it wasn't filed under W for "White", but S for "suicide" (in the original: こ for 小中 and し for 自殺). |
vytah said: In the game Mia has two files: one is a file on White, and that gets stolen by White in both anime and game. The second is a collection of newspaper clippings about unexplained suicides, with Mia's handwritten notes about her suspicions that White was behind them. White didn't find that second file, because it wasn't filed under W for "White", but S for "suicide" (in the original: こ for 小中 and し for 自殺). That makes sense. Thanks. |
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