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| I'm convinced this is just a badly edited version of the original episode(s). How can this happen?! It's like they combined two episodes last minute! They managed to shorten the first one by cutting out the context that makes the rest of the scenes... make sense. But then realised: "Oh, the episode is releasing in a few hours yet we have only edited about half of it nor have we added music." So they proceeded to absolutely murder the second half by keeping only the most crucial story beats, throw out the important intermediate parts that made the story coherent and if the animation was not completed for some cut, they used the good old secret technique of powerpoint. Finally, just before sending it, they added the music they always use, in a loop, during the whole episode. That is my personal head-cannon, but I would like to know what actually happened! Btw, this is why no matter how much I dislike BUG FILMS for not planning out Zom 100 well enough before release, I respect them for deciding to delay their work's release over and over instead of delivering whatever was ready at the time; unlike [insert obvious example here]. |
gorkthe134thFeb 13, 7:38 AM
Reply to Umaru14
What happened to the animation? Especially the scene under the tree... ??
Not to mention how fast it was as an episode.. in a very small span of time ..all this happen?
Question.. is it also like this in the manga?
Not to mention how fast it was as an episode.. in a very small span of time ..all this happen?
Question.. is it also like this in the manga?
| @Umaru14 Unfortunately no, this arc in the manga has much better pacing. I have the same problem with this adaptation as I do with the Haikyuu movies: I'm happy with the overall production value but I wish all of the chapters could have been adapted fully. In my opinion, Haikyuu and Honey Lemon Soda both don't really have filler and every scene feels meaningful in some way so it does hurt the story when the adaptation is cutting those character moments. Last episode skipped chapter 10 (I really wish they hadn't cut this subplot) and this episode ended up adapting chapters 11-14. I feel like Uka gains so much confidence and agency in these stretch of chapters and one episode wasn't enough to capture her growth. The anime only alludes to this but we actually get to see her clash with her classmates before she heads off on her bike alone so the scene where they come running to help her is a lot more satisfying. The scene where she tells Kai she would be fine without him is supposed to be a huge breakthrough in her character development (and that's why Kai feels so comfortable saying he'll always be around to watch over her since he realized she's able to stand on her own with or without him), but that moment seems to have lacked the same impact in the anime since a lot of the buildup is missing. I also feel like certain characters come off differently in the manga vs the anime? In the manga, once her classmates find out about Uka advocating for their class, they take off running immediately. I also thought that the girls that confronted her about Kai were supposed to be more curious about their relationship rather than antagonistic (this is just my interpretation though). I like the anime enough to keep watching but I would definitely recommend the manga for pure story. (Also, at the end of the episode, Miura means that he takes back saying he doesn't see her in a romantic light.) |
Reply to Umaru14
What happened to the animation? Especially the scene under the tree... ??
Not to mention how fast it was as an episode.. in a very small span of time ..all this happen?
Question.. is it also like this in the manga?
Not to mention how fast it was as an episode.. in a very small span of time ..all this happen?
Question.. is it also like this in the manga?
| @Umaru14 that part confused me too, I wasn’t sure if it was trying to be artistic or what? |
Umaru14 said: What happened to the animation? Especially the scene under the tree... ?? Not to mention how fast it was as an episode.. in a very small span of time ..all this happen? Question.. is it also like this in the manga? Hahaha! This scene was the exact moment the animators said: "Fuck this! Let's put together a slideshow with our drafts and a few funky backgrounds, done. Who's joining me for drinks later?" |
Reply to smollyhurley
@HikarieChan agreeeeed so many shortcuts in this episode and sooo rushed!! the impact of the final moment didn't hit as hard for me because of it. for the comedic bits, some of the shortcuts totally worked but for the emotional bits it was a big let down. hopefully the quality doesn't stay like this.
| @smollyhurley I dont expect much from JC staff tbh |
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| Reading this thread every week legit gives me a constant headache. Story aside, which I personally think is one of the best this season, there is so much more to animation than just movement, and calling it bad just shows how many collective braincells everybody here has. This episode was easily a standout thanks to the direction and SB of Kiyotaka Oohata's. From beautiful shots like these,  To probably what everyone noticed, the part where Ayumi's head gets big and she talks scolding the dude, lols. And as per usual as well, the OST is actually godlike. The good fun content and nature also helped this episode. I hate the anti-shoujo bias here, and it's bigger than it's ever been with this show for whatever reason. |
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| wtf was this typa of direction? Why tf do modern animes keep hiring weird-ass directors in mid anime episodes? Like, what was that supposed to be?? This type of direction should be used in a few scenes, but they decided to use it all over the episode. It feels so weird compared to the peak episodes before. It feels like you're reading a book with a fast rushed pace, not watching an emotional anime with consistent scenes. That was so horrible, and I hope the next episodes aren't that trashy. |
| this anime would have cleared like 10 years ago but now every single trope it realies on it's so overused it just became another one in the pile |
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| also wth happened with the pacing this episode?? I feel like they tried cramming an entire volume in 20 minutes |
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Reply to SakuraUchiha2313
@Spast1c
I would disagree about calling a character badly written even as a non honey lemon soda fan given this is barely 13 chapters in a manga of 70+ chapters. He barely scratches the surface. Istg modern audiences are nightmares. They barely even let characters get a set up or develop before calling them bad.
I would disagree about calling a character badly written even as a non honey lemon soda fan given this is barely 13 chapters in a manga of 70+ chapters. He barely scratches the surface. Istg modern audiences are nightmares. They barely even let characters get a set up or develop before calling them bad.
| @SakuraUchiha2313 No it is more so the fact that he just reminds me of like the stereotypical jock that girls someone flock to. I've watched mostly romance anime and this is the worst one I've seen (so far) Kai is just a annoying character always acting so cocky and full of himself. and like I said i feel this romance anime is more directed at females. I just think Kai is just a weird character. |
Reply to SakuraUchiha2313
@Spast1c I am not a fan of him myself much or Honey Lemon Soda as a series. How to say..I dont disagree with you disliking him. I just think calling a character badly written so early into the series when he didnt even get a chance to be explored much is a bit too quick of a judgement. I'm not saying he is the best by any means but at least give the character a chance to actually be explored before defining him as badly written. Also Honey Lemon Soda is a shoujo anime so yes..it is directed at girls xD
| @SakuraUchiha2313 I should've read the tag before watching LMAO. I'm not writing the series off purely because of kai but i feel the "bullying" is really badly written aswell, like something you'd see on the Disney channel. I'm not Japanese but i don't think this is how bullying is anywhere is the world. |
| It's admirable Uka-chan puts effort in. More than I ever got to do. UnU Damn so many jealous girls. |
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| The drop in animation quality is so drastic. I really wish we get to see Miura's POV at this point now, his attitude is a bit confusing, so I wonder what actually motivates him to act like this. |
| I didn’t mind the animation being all over the place all that much but it felt like a little too much was cramped in this episode. Still, I think it was not bad but hopefully we get back to normal proceedings soon. Really did feel like one of those late 2000s - early 2010s romance Shoujo episodes. |
#Anime4Life be my Life Motto! #PrayForKyoAni  |
Reply to Umaru14
What happened to the animation? Especially the scene under the tree... ??
Not to mention how fast it was as an episode.. in a very small span of time ..all this happen?
Question.. is it also like this in the manga?
Not to mention how fast it was as an episode.. in a very small span of time ..all this happen?
Question.. is it also like this in the manga?
| @Umaru14 absolutely not like this in the manga, the manga is so pretty ToT this episode animation shortcuts had me weeping |
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Reply to HikarieChan
| @HikarieChan full agree!! I was a bit nervous going into the season when I saw the studio :') |
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| This episode felt so rushed and disjointed. Its like they cramped 2 episodes into one. The animation quality dropped a ton too it was like reading a manga but in a bad way lol. There was a point where Kai was talking but his mouth didn't move?? 5 things happened and ended in a minute. The scene of them in the backroom seemed very important with them running out holding hands then it just cuts to the next thing? I don't understand. I was completely caught off guard. Some of the bad animations parts where quite funny though. I really enjoyed the last episode so its sad too see this one treated with the least amount of care. I hope the next one is better, we shall see. |
| ☆・。・。☆・(* ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ~Aphotic ☆・。・。☆・゜ |
Reply to KM_31
So my 3 observations:
- I have never seen this many gals/gyaru in a shoujo anime like this. That meeting on the rooftop was like a “Legion of Gals” conference. Very interesting.
- I think Kai looked-up and finally realized he caught feelings for Ishimori (which was of course inevitable). It will be interesting to see how long it takes Ishimori to recognize this and have enough confidence to seal the deal
- I really want Tomoya to play spoiler to Kai and go for Ishimori himself—if only to keep Kai from being over-confident that Ishimori will keep coming back. Serina pretty much served this purpose for Ishimori and is what started motivating Uka to be more confident and assertive over Kai. We need to see this on Kai’s end.
| @KM_31 If you mean by GALS just fashionable and stylish chicks, then there are a lot of them in Japanese schools. @Narizor Also pay attention to that all this titles was boy-focused. |
RobertBobertFeb 19, 3:33 PM
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| Did...did this episode get a director change or something. That was nuts! And I mean that in the most positive way. I love the goofy over the top moments and the even stronger emotional moments. |
| it feels like i watched 3 episodes in 1 lol |
| Uka volunteering to be a committee member for the culture festival, and naturally, Miura joins in. The elaborate planning from Uka herself, as much as people are entitled to their own rules, sure Miura has been always guiding her, but it's about time that she made rules for herself. And while standing out by asserting her dominance for her class's culture festival, it's clear that more of her classmates are going towards her and collaborating in the effort together, and even her having fun in school, which were all but reality in her past, is the reality she's facing now that she's depending on others to help her in her stead. Uka's class maid café is so popular, that even Uka is called in to help, it's at least satisfaction on her end. That is until anything related to Miura, with the slightest of words, pinpoints Uka to being his universal caretaker, though his friends also caution him on how long can be hold this farce. With love clearly overwhelming Uka and potentially fraying her relationship with Miura, the culture festival can be a place of fear (e.g. sexual harassment), but it's time to draw the line on where they stand. |
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| What happened to this episode to be this strange?! I could barely follow the amount of things that happened this episode, plus the animation turned so bad this episode. A lot of still image parts and reused animations which felt so cheap. Not to mention that the same music over and over again. I really liked the first few episodes, but this one felt really bad. Why did this episode change so much?! |
| This episode felt like a fever dream. It was so fast paced and just felt like i watched 5 episodes in one. They kept reusing scenes too and kept doing still shots over voice overs. I just couldn't follow what was going on. Everything was just sporadic and it felt like a cheap Shaft series impersonation. Horrible episode overall. |
| Do the brakes on her bike not work or something? Ahh, this was so cute! I will say this episode was a bit rushed. But I loved it nonetheless. Uka is such a realistic character and its nice knowing Kai is there for her and will continually stand up for her. Sometimes a shy and painfully awkward girl needs someone like that to break out of her shell. I say that from personal experience. I wasn't expecting Uka to cry on stage though, that's crazy. I absolutely love the music in this anime. Its so good and beautifully sets up the mood. |
As a wise man once said, "No one hates anime more than anime fans"  |
Reply to CRankit
this show just keeps giving me good stuff and makes me nostalgic for the memories that doesn't exist.
| @CRankit you're so real for this |
As a wise man once said, "No one hates anime more than anime fans" |
| Miura is incredibly bold, he literally says in the preview, *"Leave Ishimori to me!"* What's even weirder is that no one in the entire school seems to notice the sheer amount of love and possessiveness he just expressed! Meanwhile, Ishimori is still stuck in her inferiority complex... Come on, he just declared it in front of the whole school! Also, why does Ishimori cry at every little thing? It's kind of odd. And *Ashita no Joe* references are everywhere again! :]  |
removed-userMar 30, 7:44 PM
| Ugh, it happened again. Kai just pops up out of nowhere, drops a motivational line, and that’s all it takes for Uka to keep moving forward. Like seriously? At least Uka was finally starting to open up and get along with her class during the cultural fest prep—that was some actual progress. But nope, all that decent development went straight down the drain the moment that Kai clip from Crazy Cool played. Then outta nowhere, random girls show up just to trash talk Uka, and she instantly reverts back to square one. It’s like the plot's on a loop, and yeah, it feels like the creator was just high vibin' with no plan in mind. If anyone can point out a single redeeming quality in this mess, I’d love to hear it. 'Cause right now? It’s illogical, inconsistent, and honestly just exhausting to follow. |
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