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that character was forshadowed in the first episodes, it's not kokkoku's fault that you payed attention more to the main girl's ass.
| @Catalano Did I call her existance a plot hole? did I say it doean't make sense? it being foreshadowed doesn't do anything to make it better. this is the same shit hardcore squid game fans said after the last twist ruined a huge part of the series. build up is meaningless when the pay off makes the story worse. |
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Bleach.
Season 15 had the PERFECT point for an ending, and would have been one of the greatest series conclusions of all time... but no... it kept going, and then we got the Fullbring arc.
At least now, the 1000 Year Blood War arc is making up for that abomination season of Fullbring.
Season 15 had the PERFECT point for an ending, and would have been one of the greatest series conclusions of all time... but no... it kept going, and then we got the Fullbring arc.
At least now, the 1000 Year Blood War arc is making up for that abomination season of Fullbring.
| @Older_than_dirt Bleach couldn't end at that point because we still didn't find out who this Soul King dan Squad 0 that Aizen wanted to defeat is. The world building was not completed yet. But I kinda agree if you say that FKT arc is the best arc of Bleach and Fullbring arc after that really killed the momentum because how boring it was. |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
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The most criminal example of this in my opinion is the Higurashi hidden sequel 15 years later that didn’t lead into any new content of the other series it now connected itself to, just a gacha game and a few “what ifs” manga if anything.
Megalo Box’s sequel was amazing though I’m glad that it kept going
Megalo Box’s sequel was amazing though I’m glad that it kept going
| @Jailed Lol it that really bad? I don't even want to watch it. At that point, I hoped that they just remade the show and finally adapted Umineko after that. Too bad it didn't happen. |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
| Monogatari should have ended with Owarimonogatari, Zoku was unnecessary but I guess still watchable. Guilty crown should have ended with the first arc, the second one was absolutely terrible (not that the first arc was special, but it’s at least watchable), with maybe the backstories moved to the front when appropriate. Same with Sword Art Online season 1. Second arc was even more painful. |
| “Since when was this world so beautiful?” ~Yuuri (girl's last tour) |
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| I don't know if anyone already mentioned this but I think Death Note should have ended somewhere there in the middle. Don't read the spoiler unless you've seen the series. |
| "You only realize the real value of something you discarded when you get the chance to pick it up again." - Rudeus Greyrat |
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@JaniSIr
We have talked about this before, so I will just say that I respectfully disagree. I think the show is great as a philosophical piece, and even better as a anxiety inducing thriller. and I also think the music is REALLLY great.
specially these 3 tracks:
We have talked about this before, so I will just say that I respectfully disagree. I think the show is great as a philosophical piece, and even better as a anxiety inducing thriller. and I also think the music is REALLLY great.
specially these 3 tracks:
| @APolygons2 I'm kind of mixed in this topic, to be honest. Some tracks are really good (especially "Next to You", it's such a beautiful song), but then there are some dubsteps abominations that don't fit at all, like this classic: Them having a conversation while some crazy ass dubstep plays in the background is honestly hilarious, and I don't think comedy is what they were going for in this scene |
| Code Geass most blatant example with the movie lmao. Also, season 1 felt like it was going to end in a satisfying way, but then, it just oddly drags into another season. Honestly, if you just move the last few episodes of S2 to the first, then the story would feel much tighter to me, since that felt like where season 1 was heading anyway. |
SignsOfSuicideNov 1, 2023 6:54 AM
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| though a few plot threads were still there i'd have to say the pain arc would've been the perfect ending to naruto(maybe boruto could've been about tying up these plot threads) but one example which i think embodies this sentiment perfectly would be dragon ball, should've ended with the cell saga or maybe even the freeza saga but it just kept going and going and going and going and going.... |
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| That first thing that came up in my mind is Nanatsu no Taizai. It had a final-like conclusion but stretching the story with the Chaos arc and the four knights of the apocalypse really wasn't that necessary. But I'll still continue following the story cuz I do find the new characters likeable. The manga is definitely better than the anime that's airing this season. |
| I appreciate the encouragement of spoiler tags since most users who make these kinds of spoilery threads fail to do even that. |
| Most of the popular shonens, especially romantic ones. This is what made "great work - crappy ending" a meme. The authors simply milk popular works for as long as possible and as a result, by the end it practically becomes a zombie. The funny thing is that when manga writers started finishing work much earlier to avoid this, it only hit the anime adaptations even harder. Remember the finale of the second seasons of Neverland and We are ready to learn. |
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The manga for Usagi Drop, which dropped the series down to a 1 or a 2. Premise was a man adopting his 6 year old niece, and learning to be a parent to her in a heartwarming tale of the trials and tribulations of becoming a single parent overnight. Then they became a couple in the second half.
Another example is Oreimo, where the author chickened out and had Kyosuke and Kirino go from wincest to nocest. Why...
I also second Hell Girl: Fourth Twilight. They essentially wrapped up the longstanding arc that threaded through the previous three seasons. There was no greater impetus to revive the series other than to see the unique ways that generally awful people suffered their comeupannce or what persuaded desperate people to sell their souls, often culminating in an extended damnation sequence for the damned. The 4th season did all of these things so poorly as to be a slap in the face to long-running fans of the series. Even I felt offended, and I thought the first few seasons were relatively okay. As an episodic series, it fails, and it is not like the long running narrative needed to be continued. The animation and artstyle were also...really terrible.
Violet Evergarden: The Movie.
Another example is Oreimo, where the author chickened out and had Kyosuke and Kirino go from wincest to nocest. Why...
I also second Hell Girl: Fourth Twilight. They essentially wrapped up the longstanding arc that threaded through the previous three seasons. There was no greater impetus to revive the series other than to see the unique ways that generally awful people suffered their comeupannce or what persuaded desperate people to sell their souls, often culminating in an extended damnation sequence for the damned. The 4th season did all of these things so poorly as to be a slap in the face to long-running fans of the series. Even I felt offended, and I thought the first few seasons were relatively okay. As an episodic series, it fails, and it is not like the long running narrative needed to be continued. The animation and artstyle were also...really terrible.
Violet Evergarden: The Movie.
There is two positions that people seem to take, the position my own being that her getting into a relationship with the Major/Gilbert is after the result of her own journey of self-discovery, and I think this is an understandable position to take. I don't really like this though because it does cheapen it for me in more ways than one.
First off, I think navigating not only loss, but determining purpose and meaning in the aftermath of the situation Violet found herself in is not uncommon; the relationship between her and Gilbert is not much different than that of a child navigating the world after the death of a parent. The first issue for me, is that people do not come back to life, however much I would like for them to.
Sometimes loss is just loss, loss is a part of life and it sucks but we have to deal with it and figure some working solution on our own like Violet did. So having him turned up seemingly for the romance seemed so fundamentally disingenious. The equivalent to me is a series like Anohana: The Flower We Saw That Day undoing the tragic death of Menma. I don't even like Anohana, but at least it kept Menma dead.
Secondly, it wouldn't have been so bad if he was alive if Violet took the initative to live with the friends and family she had while still having a working relationship with him, which would have worked quite well; instead, she goes back to live on the island with Gilbert because fuck us for wanting to see (female) independence in a film.
First off, I think navigating not only loss, but determining purpose and meaning in the aftermath of the situation Violet found herself in is not uncommon; the relationship between her and Gilbert is not much different than that of a child navigating the world after the death of a parent. The first issue for me, is that people do not come back to life, however much I would like for them to.
Sometimes loss is just loss, loss is a part of life and it sucks but we have to deal with it and figure some working solution on our own like Violet did. So having him turned up seemingly for the romance seemed so fundamentally disingenious. The equivalent to me is a series like Anohana: The Flower We Saw That Day undoing the tragic death of Menma. I don't even like Anohana, but at least it kept Menma dead.
Secondly, it wouldn't have been so bad if he was alive if Violet took the initative to live with the friends and family she had while still having a working relationship with him, which would have worked quite well; instead, she goes back to live on the island with Gilbert because fuck us for wanting to see (female) independence in a film.
PeripheralVision said: The manga for Usagi Drop, which dropped the series down to a 1 or a 2. Premise was a man adopting his 6 year old niece, and learning to be a parent to her in a heartwarming tale of the trials and tribulations of becoming a single parent overnight. Then they became a couple in the second half. Just because the manga's ending sucks doesn't mean the anime ended at a perfect place. The anime doesn't have any ending. |
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Reply to GentleDragonite
Monogatari should have ended with Owarimonogatari, Zoku was unnecessary but I guess still watchable.
Guilty crown should have ended with the first arc, the second one was absolutely terrible (not that the first arc was special, but it’s at least watchable), with maybe the backstories moved to the front when appropriate.
Same with Sword Art Online season 1. Second arc was even more painful.
Guilty crown should have ended with the first arc, the second one was absolutely terrible (not that the first arc was special, but it’s at least watchable), with maybe the backstories moved to the front when appropriate.
Same with Sword Art Online season 1. Second arc was even more painful.
GentleDragonite said: Monogatari should have ended with Owarimonogatari, Zoku was unnecessary but I guess still watchable. Owarimonogatari isn't any better than Zoku. I'd rather the anime have ended with Hanamonogatari. |
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GentleDragonite said:
Monogatari should have ended with Owarimonogatari, Zoku was unnecessary but I guess still watchable.
Monogatari should have ended with Owarimonogatari, Zoku was unnecessary but I guess still watchable.
Owarimonogatari isn't any better than Zoku. I'd rather the anime have ended with Hanamonogatari.
| @Lucifrost I mean, it technically does end with Hana, just watch the show in chronological order, and bam, now you have your perfect ending :) |
| Had Black Clover ended with the Elf Reincarnation Arc, I would have added it to my favorites. |
| Kurokami ending Guilty crown ending there was more but those two are the first ones that comes to my mind |
WolfyrinnNov 1, 2023 10:47 AM
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The most criminal example of this in my opinion is the Higurashi hidden sequel 15 years later that didn’t lead into any new content of the other series it now connected itself to, just a gacha game and a few “what ifs” manga if anything.
Megalo Box’s sequel was amazing though I’m glad that it kept going
Megalo Box’s sequel was amazing though I’m glad that it kept going
| @Jailed Higurashi sequel was to make it more connected to Umineko (even if it was obvious enough without it) not exactly to the other stuff. |
| Death Note should have ended after episode 25, the rest isn't exactly what I would call bad, but it really wasn't needed. and actually lowered the quality of the series Madoka Magica should have ended in the TV series, a sequel movie wasn't neccesary even less a second one. Tate no Yuusha had no reason to keep going after episode 21, okay, maybe one last wave, but it really didn't need 2 more seasons. Evangelion ended with End of Evangelion and Anno isn't changing my mind. |
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Death Note should have ended after episode 25, the rest isn't exactly what I would call bad, but it really wasn't needed. and actually lowered the quality of the series
Madoka Magica should have ended in the TV series, a sequel movie wasn't neccesary even less a second one.
Tate no Yuusha had no reason to keep going after episode 21, okay, maybe one last wave, but it really didn't need 2 more seasons.
Evangelion ended with End of Evangelion and Anno isn't changing my mind.
Madoka Magica should have ended in the TV series, a sequel movie wasn't neccesary even less a second one.
Tate no Yuusha had no reason to keep going after episode 21, okay, maybe one last wave, but it really didn't need 2 more seasons.
Evangelion ended with End of Evangelion and Anno isn't changing my mind.
Ionliosite2 said: Madoka Magica should have ended in the TV series, a sequel movie wasn't neccesary even less a second one. I can see how rebellion can be considered unnecessary even though I love it. BUT now that rebellion DOES exist, I genuinely don't see why another sequel would be anything but necessary. Rebellion literally sets up a massive plot point, and ends with giving less than the bare minimum of hints on what will happen next. Even though I like rebellion more, I would be blind to not see how the original had a much more properly satisfying end to it. But rebellion doesn't even end the story, the worst thing about the sequel is that it took them a decade they to make it. Ionliosite2 said: Evangelion ended with End of Evangelion and Anno isn't changing my mind. I mean, It kinda did. I know The rebuilds are technically a sequel, but I actually had 0 clue what any of the science mombo jombo in thrice upon time meant, even by evangelion standards, so I have to fully agree. I won't call them bad, cause they have a lot of good aspects. but they are definitely missing what made the original evangelion special. this sounds bad, but evangelion's greatness came from the emotions Anno put into it, and the thing is, I don't think the rebuilds conveyed him getting over his problems nearly as well as the original conveyed his despair. |
APolygons2Nov 1, 2023 8:35 PM
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Ionliosite2 said:
Madoka Magica should have ended in the TV series, a sequel movie wasn't neccesary even less a second one.
Madoka Magica should have ended in the TV series, a sequel movie wasn't neccesary even less a second one.
I can see how rebellion can be considered unnecessary even though I love it.
BUT now that rebellion DOES exist, I genuinely don't see why another sequel would be anything but necessary.
Rebellion literally sets up a massive plot point, and ends with giving less than the bare minimum of hints on what will happen next. Even though I like rebellion more, I would be blind to not see how the original had a much more properly satisfying end to it.
But rebellion doesn't even end the story, the worst thing about the sequel is that it took them a decade they to make it.
Ionliosite2 said:
Evangelion ended with End of Evangelion and Anno isn't changing my mind.
Evangelion ended with End of Evangelion and Anno isn't changing my mind.
I mean, It kinda did.
I know The rebuilds are technically a sequel, but I actually had 0 clue what any of the science mombo jombo in thrice upon time meant, even by evangelion standards, so I have to fully agree.
I won't call them bad, cause they have a lot of good aspects. but they are definitely missing what made the original evangelion special.
this sounds bad, but evangelion's greatness came from the emotions Anno put into it, and the thing is, I don't think the rebuilds conveyed him getting over his problems nearly as well as the original conveyed his despair.
APolygons2 said: I won't call them bad, cause they have a lot of good aspects. but they are definitely missing what made the original evangelion special. this sounds bad, but evangelion's greatness came from the emotions Anno put into it, and the thing is, I don't think the rebuilds conveyed him getting over his problems nearly as well as the original conveyed his despair. I felt more emotion from the rebuilds than the original. |
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| I think it's The Promised Neverland although the goldy pond arc is good but to be honest it didn't need to expand the world as the season 1 already a great one. |
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oh, no...our boy is giving MaL-Lectures, again.
| @Merve2Love what does that even mean? how is this anything like a lecture? why are you so petty ma man? for the love of haruhi being like this ain't healthy. |
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| Chuunibyou- the 1st season imo is absolutely one of the best slice of life which despite being funny, tackles the topic with extreme care, and the ending of season 1 was absolutely perfect. Then came season 2 with the 3rd wheel plot, i mean, tbh, i didn't hate it, infact, despite cringing quite a few times, i enjoyed it, and the ending was okay, i just believe it ended on a superb note in season 1 but they just had to drag it more, and then the movie, it just goes on and on. Then i wonder if this was even necessary, they just milked it more and more. On a different note, there are some topic which have a EXTREMELY weird or surprising twist at the end of an arc to force it to end abruptly, they could have had infinite potential to make a continuation of the plot utilising that same narration but they go in a COMPLETELY new direction, changing almost everything- this is seen in "blast of tempest." The 1st 12 episodes are absolutely brilliant, but then the arc ends abruptly and the story takes a slice of life-ish take with a lot of irrelevant additions which were not necessary, taking it forever to get good again at the finale. I do think the "very end" was AMAZING, the reveal about the murder was fabulous, but we could have reached the same ending without that weird twist in narration. |
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Kaguya-Sama
This show was not a romantic drama, it was a romantic comedy, it didn't need this. The season 3 ending was perfect for the type of show it was.
This show was not a romantic drama, it was a romantic comedy, it didn't need this. The season 3 ending was perfect for the type of show it was.
| @Jackson1333 Jackson1333 said: This show was not a romantic drama, it was a romantic comedy, Wrong. There was a lot of drama in the end of season 1 and 2 aswell, it is not something "random" in the show, it always existed. And the show isn't saying "fuck you for liking that ending" please..... Its about the characters wishing for something else, something normal, which they got. I would agree about AFTER the movie though, it just goes on without any real goal, the movie is THE PERFECT ending- which adds a lot to already great characters but sadly it just doesnt end there. |
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| Rent a Girlfriend should have been ended at season 3 the Movie Arc! if that was the case it may become a Great Series! |
| D.Gray-man: I won't need the spoiler button. Basically the 2000s show was brilliant as it was. But "Hollow" was made in the 2010s, the end. |
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