| I can't figure out if this thread is very fat trolling or just gross and insulting ignorance about Japanese culture? |
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Sandro8604 said: What is idol culture? this anime is so heavily based on the concept and drawbacks of it. Seems to me grown up men who have pedophilic tendency and are mentally unstable obsessing over teenage girls dancing in short skirts. It's pretty disgusting to think about to be honest. And they've built an entire industry around it. I have seen some reference here and there in other animes like Jujutsu Kaisen but thought that was a niche thing. To give you perspective, I'm from India, so yeah never seen such things in any english movies as well, let alone in my vicinity. I have seen item songs in Bollywood movies, more or less the same thing. There are live performances too with similar kind of dance. I'm from India too. |
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ktg said: As gross as rooting for your favorite football team or boxer. Bro your logic makes no sense |
| Ok, keep pretending you're not biologically attracted to post pubescent women, even if young |
| Nino is the objectively superior one, don't @ me |
Sandro8604 said: What is idol culture? this anime is so heavily based on the concept and drawbacks of it. Seems to me grown up men who have pedophilic tendency and are mentally unstable obsessing over teenage girls dancing in short skirts. It's pretty disgusting to think about to be honest. And they've built an entire industry around it. I have seen some reference here and there in other animes like Jujutsu Kaisen but thought that was a niche thing. To give you perspective, I'm from India, so yeah never seen such things in any english movies as well, let alone in my vicinity. I can tell OP is a twitter snowflake.  |
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| hate to break it to you, but if you admire celeb actors in the west then you are part of idol culture. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
Sandro8604 said: As soon as I finished reading this 16th century inspired text I became confused and thought I was using Twitter . Great job at destroying some of my few good brain cells.What is idol culture? this anime is so heavily based on the concept and drawbacks of it. Seems to me grown up men who have pedophilic tendency and are mentally unstable obsessing over teenage girls dancing in short skirts. It's pretty disgusting to think about to be honest. And they've built an entire industry around it. I have seen some reference here and there in other animes like Jujutsu Kaisen but thought that was a niche thing. To give you perspective, I'm from India, so yeah never seen such things in any english movies as well, let alone in my vicinity. |
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Orbakun said: Gollo_1 said: You resumed perfectly every chapter of the manga of Oshi no ko in one line, congratulations๐ค onk? no every anime is japan wildin maybe not everyone, but you’re right |
principle said: It's even crazier to expect a sane/civil discussion or answers when somebody writes an insane thread like this one. He should go back to Bollywood if he is refusing the fact that different cultures and ideologies exists in our world .....I think it's crazy how nobody answered the question and instead just started going on tangents about pedophilia and throwing insults at each other |
| IDOL: Individual Doing Overly Labor. |
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| Idol culture is not that different in general...premise from how we tend to treat many musical artists. I mean honestly, look at The Beatles when they arrived in the United States. Women were going crazy over them. Going crazy for or developing devotion to musical artists is nothing new. The main difference I would argue between idol culture and that of other musical artists is presentation, what image is being sold to the public. BTS and AKB48 are not just selling songs, but selling images and stage personas that are meant to be viewed and treated with reverence, whereas musical artists rely on songs more or less that just happens to communicate an image. There is ingrained tendency to build and at times exploit what is essentially an interpersonal brand loyalty. I do not really understand it, but I suppose it is a consensual illusion; most fans I imagine know that this is all artificial, but like a broadway play they enjoy it nevertheless. Or a football game. Most of us who have some semblance of reality know it really does not matter, but we fool ourselves into having emotions for the game because it is just fun to lose yourself in that euphoria. That being said, I still think it is weird, but not necessarily wrong or even problematic, though some criticism of the industry is perfectly reasonable. I mean, should teenagers really be idols? Should men be fans of these teenage starlets? Isn't the "no relationship" clause too exploitative of the mentally unwell patrons at these concerts? |
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| Well... there is some truth to that. The environment of idols and showbiz is very toxic. idols have to be beautiful, perfect and always smiling, but very often they are sad people who don't make good money and are just exploited by their labels. Toxic fans and people's mentality doesn't help. Fans love to sexualize idols, ship them etc. but if an idol starts dating someone or does something sexy they get hated and kicked out of the group. Idols use backbreaking diets, sometimes they train all day long, they are exhausted. Fans do not give them peace, they record them, they are pushy, they expect attention from idols even though they do not know their real face. The cult of being perfect and the eternal hate makes a lot of young idols commit suicide. Until this strange mentality of people changes, it will only get worse. they are already accepting younger and younger children at the music labels. It all looks nice from the outside, but if someone knows the subject better, it's really hard to look at it. |
Jollyne7May 9, 2023 2:44 PM
| Go watch the Idolm@ster and you would see why it's amazing. |
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Sandro8604 said: What is idol culture? this anime is so heavily based on the concept and drawbacks of it. Seems to me grown up men who have pedophilic tendency and are mentally unstable obsessing over teenage girls dancing in short skirts. It's pretty disgusting to think about to be honest. And they've built an entire industry around it. I have seen some reference here and there in other animes like Jujutsu Kaisen but thought that was a niche thing. To give you perspective, I'm from India, so yeah never seen such things in any english movies as well, let alone in my vicinity. Maybe you shouldn't be on an anime site if you know nothing about it's culture |
Cestlavie_ said: Its sad that some people are ignorant to this phenomena known as idolization, but TC is from India so the closest thing they got to that is Bollywood.It's very sad and depressing people don't know the meaning of pedophilia It exists outside of Japan, too folks. They are called Pop Stars and they are in America/Korea. Although America's idolization is more on Hollywood and Sports than Pop Stars |
RobertsahDHDAMay 13, 2023 2:41 PM
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| There wouldn't be industry if there's no audience. Many people love this shit boys girls man or woman. There's a good chance 5 out of 10 people I meet these days are K-POP fans. In general, nevermind idols, I don't get the obsessions people have with celebrities. Couldn't care less how they look for me if its good music I dig. |
ktg said: What? That's not even in the same ballpark. As gross as rooting for your favorite football team or boxer. |
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| Japan, depressive/opressive controlling society (not just the State, the society) Depressive/opressive society: nest of frustrated people who need escape spaces. Forms of escapism: drugs, porn, reli****, comm****, "circenses" (sports fan culture), but also fantasy fiction, and in Japan, fetish appreciation media for adults like anime, manga, and Idol culture. |
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